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wizzyrea |
i'm always surprised when there are thunderstorms like that so near the sea |
| 00:00 |
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wizzyrea |
I bet you'll get some waterspouts |
| 00:00 |
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wizzyrea |
the entirety of my thunderstorm knowledge is of inland ones |
| 00:00 |
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wizzyrea |
like, way inland. |
| 00:01 |
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wizzyrea |
flyover country inland. |
| 00:01 |
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wizzyrea |
flyover whilst sleeping inland. |
| 00:01 |
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wizzyrea |
boring to look out the window at whilst flying over inland. |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
Yeah, the worst storms we got were snow storms |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
We have a bit of rain right now but not too bad |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
I think it's mostly hitting right on the coast |
| 00:09 |
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dcook |
I'm about 9km from the coast, so not too bad yet |
| 00:09 |
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dcook |
Well 9km from the east coast |
| 00:09 |
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dcook |
Oh, it's getting a bit heavier |
| 00:10 |
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dcook |
Maybe I should stop talking about it :p |
| 00:23 |
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wizzyrea |
You are cursing yourself. |
| 00:24 |
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dcook |
Exactly! |
| 00:38 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/worl[…]562002&ref=NZH_Tw dcook !!!! |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Yikes! |
| 00:56 |
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wizzyrea |
You went away and then I was scared for you! |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
Awww |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
That's sweet of you |
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dcook |
This building is pretty solid. We had medium rain for a few minutes, but it's clear again here |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
Here's hoping my house is still intact... |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
I'm guessing the building collapses were right on the coast.. :( |
| 00:56 |
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wizzyrea |
eeks. |
| 00:56 |
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* wizzyrea |
hopes not |
| 00:59 |
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dcook |
Looks like another burst is coming as well... http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65152.shtml |
| 01:04 |
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wizzyrea |
it must have been hot-ish, and cold front is coming in? |
| 01:04 |
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* dcook |
shrugs |
| 01:05 |
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wizzyrea |
Winds northeasterly 15 to 20 km/h shifting south to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h during the afternoon and evening. |
| 01:05 |
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dcook |
That's not too bad |
| 01:05 |
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wizzyrea |
naw, but from the south so probably cold :) |
| 01:05 |
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wizzyrea |
cooler |
| 01:05 |
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wizzyrea |
and it's only forecast 20 tomorrow |
| 01:19 |
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francescam |
Call me behind the times but dcook: just saw the twister news, how are you faring over in Sydney? |
| 01:22 |
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dcook |
francescam: Not too bad here but I'm about 9km from the edge of the coast |
| 01:22 |
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dcook |
Thanks for asking :D |
| 01:23 |
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rangi |
http://blog.aurynn.com/86/contempt-culture <-- good read |
| 01:29 |
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francescam |
That's a really interesting article |
| 01:31 |
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dcook |
^ |
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wizzyrea |
<shame> |
| 01:41 |
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wizzyrea |
(but seriously, don't do that.) |
| 03:28 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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Nacronic |
hello |
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Nacronic |
hello all I have installed koha 3.12.6 and i am running to session time out problem though i have set it to ""120000"" in global preferances |
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drojf1 |
morning #koha |
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rangi |
where does someone even find 3.12.6 ? |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
people are weird |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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Joubu |
Good morning #koha |
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ashimema |
morning Joubu |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha :) |
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| 10:34 |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
| 10:34 |
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cait |
hi LibraryClaire :) being curious - where are you from? :) |
| 10:35 |
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LibraryClaire |
Hi cait :) I'm based in London |
| 10:35 |
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Joubu |
I think arts.ac.uk is a PTFS-E's partner |
| 10:36 |
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LibraryClaire |
Joubu: yes, University of the Arts |
| 10:40 |
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cait |
oh nice :) |
| 10:41 |
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LibraryClaire |
how about you cait? |
| 10:41 |
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cait |
I am in Germany, working for BSZ - another Koha support provider |
| 10:41 |
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cait |
in Konstanz |
| 10:42 |
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LibraryClaire |
cool! :) |
| 10:42 |
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LibraryClaire |
brb - meeting :0 |
| 10:43 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
Joubu.. how did you get arts.ac.uk there? |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
your right.. but I wondered how you could tell from irc |
| 10:46 |
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* cait |
thinks Joubu is a wizard :P |
| 10:47 |
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* ashimema |
just found: http://www.libraryclaire.co.uk/ |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
nice site LibraryClaire |
| 10:51 |
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liw |
ashimema, when someone joines an channel, there's a message such as this: -!- LibraryClaire [~oftc-webi 195-195-80-207.arts.ac.uk] has joined #koha |
| 10:51 |
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liw |
depending on the IRC client, you might or mightnot see it (and it can be shown in various ways) |
| 10:52 |
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liw |
also visible with the IRC command "/wii ashimema" |
| 10:52 |
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cait |
hm doesn't work for me |
| 10:52 |
|
cait |
unknown command |
| 10:52 |
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liw |
some IRC networks offer "cloaks" which hide teh address the user is coming from |
| 10:52 |
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cait |
maybe depending on the client too? |
| 10:52 |
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liw |
ah, the /wii command may be client specific; I think the general command is /whois |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
oh, interesting.. I had no idea you could do that |
| 10:53 |
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cait |
ah thx! |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
thanks liw |
| 10:59 |
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drojf |
there is also /whowas if somebody left already |
| 11:09 |
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LibraryClaire |
back - yeah I am just in the web browser, PC here wouldn't let me install a client >:( |
| 11:09 |
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LibraryClaire |
ashimema: thanks - I haven't put much on the site recently... much in progress :) |
| 11:12 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: my IRC client displays the ip when someone enters the room |
| 11:12 |
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Joubu |
ok too late :) |
| 11:12 |
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* Joubu |
should have backlogged everything before answering |
| 11:13 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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xarragon |
Is it worth adding tests that calls the OPAC and greps the html output for the expected data? |
| 12:36 |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
morning tcohen :) |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
hi cait :-D |
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ashimema |
🖒 |
| 13:10 |
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cait |
ashimema: ? |
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| 13:11 |
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ashimema |
wrong channel |
| 13:11 |
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ashimema |
oops |
| 13:12 |
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ashimema |
but for good measure 👠|
| 13:12 |
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cait |
not sure what that is you are posting hter |
| 13:12 |
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* ashimema |
likes some of the unicode chars.. thumbs up is nice ;) |
| 13:12 |
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cait |
aah |
| 13:12 |
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cait |
looks like my client fails to show it :) |
| 13:13 |
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tcohen |
smuxi shows it ok, hi ashimema! |
| 13:13 |
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ashimema |
I is in smuxi too |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
pidgin on windows fails |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
but might be config |
| 13:14 |
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oleonard |
The first one didn't work but the second one did (in Chatzilla). Looks the same in the log to me too: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-12-16 |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
both look ok in the log for me ;) |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
browser support also varies I feel |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
same as oleonard |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
one good, one bad |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
oth are thumbs up.. first one right facing, second one left facing |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
how odd |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
mwah.. worth knowing though.. |
| 13:16 |
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ashimema |
I'll try to remember to use the second one over the first now ;) |
| 13:16 |
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oleonard |
Yeah the "uni" in "unicode" must not stand for universal. :P |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
could be any number of reasons for not displaying.. some font sets just don't include the icons for all characters for example. |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
so may not nesesarily be the browser but the font's it's pulling in from the system ;) |
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misilot |
question, how would I write a small program that utilizes the synopsis section in http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]bs/check-url.html I keep getting a can't locate C4/URL/Checker.pm Thanks! |
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ashimema |
erm.. |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
I presume this is a program external to Koha? |
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ashimema |
you'll need to add koha lib to you PERL5LIB or @INC to call the module |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
erm.. |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
also.. |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
I don't actually see that module in master.. |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
ack.. |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
that's some horrible code.. |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
the module is embedded within the script! |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
pass then.. I have no idea how you'd reference it |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]jobs/check-url.pl |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset |
Anyone have an idea of how to submit a git-bz patch? |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
Joubu |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset |
Not a koha patch with git-bz, but a patch to git-bz itself. |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
we maintain our own copy in git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
I 'think' Joubu has some keys to it |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
or rangi |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
I can push into the contrib repo, not sure I can push into git-bz |
| 14:46 |
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pastebot |
"mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Here's the git-bz patch" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 14:47 |
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mtompset |
before patch bug 7143 (Marc Véron) blows up |
| 14:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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mtompset |
after patch, git bz works fine |
| 14:48 |
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mtompset |
at least the apply... |
| 14:48 |
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mtompset |
about to attempt a sign off and attach. :) |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
that's the utf8 problem. |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
awesome.. |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
I've been meaning to look at that for ages |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
pop that paste link in a pm to rangi.. i'm sure he'd apply it for you |
| 14:50 |
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ashimema |
when he wakes up ;) |
| 14:51 |
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ashimema |
@later tell rangi, are you the man with the keys to the git-bz repository.. can we apply http://paste.koha-community.org/224 to fishsoup? |
| 14:51 |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Nope... attach blows up. |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
Now to fix that. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 15:16 |
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* JesseM |
waves back |
| 15:17 |
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cait |
hm i thougt we had it fixed |
| 15:17 |
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cait |
the utf-8 prob |
| 15:17 |
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cait |
hm maybe a different prob |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
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* magnuse |
fears there is no such thing as getting rid of encoding problems once and for alle |
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* mtompset |
grins at magnuse. |
| 15:33 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mveron. |
| 15:33 |
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mtompset |
Thanks for an excuse to fix utf-8 issues in git-bz. :P |
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mveron |
Hi mtompset |
| 15:34 |
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mtompset |
http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 15:34 |
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mtompset |
That fixes the apply, so I can apply your patch. :P |
| 15:34 |
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mveron |
I was reading back... The é in my name? |
| 15:35 |
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* mveron |
was wondering what was blowing up with his name |
| 15:38 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
| 15:42 |
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mveron |
mtompset: Was the problem related toteh commit message or to tha patch? - I remember thet there were issues with characters like '>' copy/pasted from Koha breadcrumbs |
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mveron |
to the |
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mtompset |
In A meeting. sorry... 1.25 hours still. |
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Joubu |
mtompset: actually you revert a previous change fixing utf8 issues |
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Joubu |
commit 4666a5ae4d8fab588c7481d6d48ff6ea6eee1da1 |
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mtompset |
mveron... tryusing html code for the accent? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mveron |
mtompset: Patch applied fine here. I changed the commit message to remove the é. |
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mtompset |
mveron: That works for the unpatched version. :) |
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mveron |
:-) |
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mtompset |
signed off. :) |
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mtompset |
BTW, utf_8, Joubu? I think the header should be utf-8. :) |
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mtompset |
But you are right about the reversion. |
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ashimema |
@later tell rangi, maybe read the irc backlog first.. more got talked about regarding utf8 on git-bz |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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K_chris |
mveron: I have been testing but 15374 some more. |
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mveron |
K_chris: Yes? :-) |
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K_chris |
the link you are referring to is for is to /opac-memberentry.pl |
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K_chris |
right? |
| 16:53 |
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K_chris |
that's the link you fixed, i think. |
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mveron |
Let me have a look |
| 16:59 |
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K_chris |
i have tested everything on a sandbox (14) except for fines: it doesn't seem that fines (total due) is getting computed. "no data available in table" |
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mveron |
K_chris: Yes, it is the link for opac-memberentry.pl |
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* mveron |
is checking regarding the fines |
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K_chris |
mveron: to test with the fines, I have applying the patch on a local development environment using bz. But I am new to this. |
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drojf |
evening |
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mveron |
K_crhis: I added a manual fine o a patron that exceeds the value of syspref OPACFineNoRenewals |
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mveron |
Hi drojf :-) |
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mveron |
K_chris: ^^^ |
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mveron |
K_chris: If OPACFineNoRenewals is empty nothing is calculated |
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* mveron |
needs something to eat... |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
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* Kchris |
waves |
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* drojf |
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* mveron |
waves |
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Kchris |
mveron: Testing bug 15374. I did set system preference for OPACFineNoRenewals, but the sandboxes don't seem to total fines... |
| 19:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15374 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability: Fix issues on OPAC summary page |
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mveron |
Kchris: What is the value of OPACFineNoRenewals? |
| 19:08 |
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mveron |
And how much fines has the patron? |
| 19:08 |
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rangi |
sup peeps |
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* drojf |
peeps |
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Kchris |
mveron:OpacFineNoRenewals=100, patron fine=200. It seems there may be a table missing on sandbox??? |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
drojf: for the record, i think something in berlin before kohacon is a good idea |
| 19:10 |
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Kchris |
Attempting to test on local development environment: Once a patch is applied with via git bz, is there a way to verify that the patch is successfully applied? |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
Kchris: git log |
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drojf |
rangi: woohoo, feedback :) |
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rangi |
Kchris: you should see the patch as the top commit |
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mveron |
Kchris: If it does not apply you should have a message |
| 19:11 |
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Kchris |
rangi++, mveron++ |
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mveron |
drojf:I consider ot travel to Berlin as well... |
| 19:11 |
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mveron |
to travel |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
drojf: im assuming there are lots of flights and/or trains from berlin to thessaloniki ? |
| 19:13 |
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Kchris |
After applying the patch, is it necessary to restart Apache? |
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rangi |
Kchris: no, unless it changes the apache configuration in some way .. however are you running plack? |
| 19:14 |
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rangi |
or memcached? |
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drojf |
rangi: i checked two way flights and there were a lot of options. i will set up a wiki page with infos like that now that the first people show interest |
| 19:16 |
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mveron |
drojf++ |
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drojf |
i doubt we will max out the connections :) |
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Kchris |
rangi: no, I am not running plack or memcached. |
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rangi |
Kchris: then there should be nothing persistent (except the data in the database) so you shouldnt need to restart anything |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
hmm 2 days on a train... that might be too long .. flights it is :) |
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drojf |
heh if the view is good from the train? :D |
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drojf |
best connection from berlin is direct, 2,5h. but some cheapo airline where you have to book everything extra (still the cheapest with all options) |
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rangi |
thats why i normally like trains :) would ge to see slovakia, hungary, serbia etc on the way .. but yeah bit too long |
| 19:28 |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
you're not here every day, use as much europa as you can :D |
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drojf |
*europe |
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oleonard |
So uh... When did Koha get NCIP support? |
| 19:29 |
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* oleonard |
didn't think it had it |
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rangi |
it does |
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rangi |
separately |
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rangi |
in a couple of ways |
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drojf |
you can even choose from several, can't you? |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?[…]ver.git;a=summary <-- this one .. or its a little more up to date in the catalyst repo |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
its a separate project that we should make sure we dont go all SIP on, and fold it into Koha |
| 19:31 |
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liw |
I noticed that Kohacon's going to be May 30 onwards... I have marked my calendar just in case. Next year's looking a bit potentially gloomy, though. (/me timidly ponders offering a 4-hour Debian packaging tutorial workshop, if there's interest) |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
or there is the XC NCIP toolkit way, which there is a bug for lemme find it |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
oleonard: afaik MassCat are using the NCIP server stuff Dyrcona and I mostly wrote in production, however there are a couple of branches that need to be reconciled/merged its on my todo list |
| 19:33 |
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* oleonard |
was surprised to year someone on the ByWater list say Koha had NCIP support. |
| 19:33 |
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oleonard |
I guess I'm just out of the loop |
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drojf |
liw: i'd be interested. but you would have to arrange with the catmandu people if they actually come and do a workshop too, so i can do both :) |
| 19:33 |
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rangi |
liw: that sounds great to me! even if it couldnt be at kohacon proper maybe that could be at the preconf thing drojf is organising in berlin |
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rangi |
oleonard: well, there is an NCIP server that will work with Koha .. is more correct than Koha has NCIP support, the work I did didnt touch Koha itself |
| 19:34 |
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drojf |
oh right. if that is an option for you… |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
but you know .. marketing |
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oleonard |
Berlin + Thessaloniki would be so great. |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
oleonard: if bug 13930 is pushed then it would be correct to say Koha supports the xnciptoolkit |
| 19:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13930 enhancement, P3, ---, mail, Needs Signoff , Add supporting service svc/ncip for xnciptoolkit driver |
| 19:35 |
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liw |
rangi, sure. I am basically willing to do that anywhere, any time, as long as it suits my other committments and I can find a way to cover costs (I'd rather not pay for travel, hotels out of my own pocket; alas) |
| 19:35 |
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magnuse |
rangi, oleonard: and what does "support for ncip" mean? it's a big standard |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
liw: that's totally fair enough, im sure we can rustle up some sponsorship or the like :) |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
magnuse: true .. and it has issues |
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rangi |
ncip? |
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magnuse |
it's probably more meanngful to talk about which profiles it supports, like NNCIPP (Norwegian NCIP Profile) |
| 19:36 |
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* drojf |
sighs |
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oleonard |
Now I have to think, "What are the reasons for having NCIP that we discussed at the time someone quoted us $50,000 to add NCIP support to Koha?" |
| 19:37 |
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drojf |
we have a great non-ncip proprietary ILL protocol. lol. yay germany |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
yeah its fair to say, NCIPserver + Koha supports Autographics NCIP |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
currently |
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rangi |
vendor embrace and extend ftw!! |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
rangi: you think NCIPServer should be folded into koha? |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]g-on-ncip-kohails |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
magnuse: hell no |
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magnuse |
ok, misread you then |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
we made that mistake with SIP |
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magnuse |
gotcha |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
what should be done, is it should be rewritten (not much to do actually) at least the NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm module |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
to use the rest api |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
then it could sit anywhere |
| 19:39 |
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magnuse |
but there is some work to be done, if we want it to be a common project for evergreen and koha |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
yep have to merge the branches .. its not super hard, just time consuming and of course no one is gonna want to pay for that :) |
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drojf |
ok awesome, we go from "i wonder if someone will come to berlin" to "omg everyone is coming, i only have room for 20 people" again :D |
| 19:39 |
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magnuse |
Dyrcona changed a lot of the basics, so the work you did does not work any longer, rangi |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
magnuse: it does on the catalyst repo, but yep, gotta merge those |
| 19:40 |
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magnuse |
from what i have seen it is more a question of rewriting NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm than just merging, but i might have missed something |
| 19:40 |
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Dyrcona |
It still works in the master branch of the "public" working repo. |
| 19:41 |
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Dyrcona |
My changes are in user/dyrcona/better_abstraction which ended up becoming the Evergreen driver branch. |
| 19:41 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yep, that needs to be rewritten to be use the rest api anyway .. then merging the lib/NCIP/Handler stuff .. if that makes sense |
| 19:42 |
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magnuse |
yeah, using the rest api would be super cool, then one ncipserver culd serve many koha instances (i think) |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
however im pretty sure masscat are running the master branch in production currently (or at least final testing before it's live live) |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yeah that's the plan |
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Dyrcona |
I've been making a lot of changes after going live with the Evergreen NCIP... 'cause y'know...testing never gets everything. |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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eythian |
Hi |
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magnuse |
i based my work on nncipp on some branch from Dyrcona - sounds like we might have some work to do... |
| 19:46 |
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magnuse |
hiya eythian |
| 19:47 |
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eythian |
Just been to see Star Wars. I recommend it. |
| 19:47 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 19:47 |
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eythian |
Spoiler: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWSso9GWUAA9SzD.jpg |
| 19:48 |
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magnuse |
is not clicking on that |
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rangi |
eythian: taking the kids after work |
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eythian |
Sweet. |
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oleonard |
Yeah don't make me have to swear off IRC as well as Twitter and Facebook until I get to see it |
| 19:48 |
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eythian |
magnuse: it's not a big spoiler |
| 19:48 |
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eythian |
You know you want to |
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oleonard |
eythian: 3D? |
| 19:49 |
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eythian |
Yep |
| 19:50 |
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oleonard |
Star Wars + 3D feels a little wrong, but I'm old. |
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pianohacker |
jeez, eythian, that's a huge spoiler |
| 19:51 |
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eythian |
oleonard: it's not bad actually. |
| 19:51 |
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* magnuse |
will not see anything in 3d |
| 19:52 |
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eythian |
Only a few points where you really notice it, and that's by design, making you want to reach out and grab the thing |
| 19:52 |
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eythian |
magnuse: only one eye? |
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Dyrcona |
ha! ha! |
| 19:52 |
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Dyrcona |
It's an ugly spoiler at that. :) |
| 19:53 |
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drojf |
the spoiler is probably more fun than the movie ;) *hides* |
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cait |
drojf: i want to come too :) |
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oleonard |
See you later, all. When I return I will still have not seen the new Star Wars movie. |
| 19:56 |
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drojf |
cait: yay \o/ |
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cait |
just have to see if i can manage - you plan before kohacon right? |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
i will try my best to keep that free |
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cait |
so we would travel sunday to greece for kohacon starting monday then? |
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drojf |
cait: yes before. i will check what options we have and we will probably all travel together some way on sunday or saturday (might be cheaper/better times). i will gather some info and throw it in the wiki soon |
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drojf |
also a doodle or dudle or similar about who would come and for how many days |
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cait |
cool |
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cait |
it might take me a while to give you a definite answer |
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cait |
but certainly interested! |
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francesca |
I'm in love with today's Google doodle |
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barton |
hola #koha! |
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pianohacker |
/kick barto |
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pianohacker |
we don't know you... |
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barton |
the package 'C4::URL::Checker' is defined in misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl. ... how do I call C4::URL::Checker from an external script? |
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pianohacker |
my vote would be to refactor that package into a proper module |
| 20:32 |
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barton |
yeah, mine too, but just for giggles... |
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misilot |
i'm trying to just provide an example where the check-url.pl script fails since it doesn't support cookies (so I can submit a ticket asking for cookies) |
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barton |
misilot: actually, I think pianohacker |
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barton |
's right. |
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barton |
You could pretty much just copy misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl to C4/URL/Checker.pm |
| 20:34 |
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barton |
just for quick and dirty. |
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pianohacker |
yup yup |
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barton |
having said that, I know that there is a perl keyword for doing what I first asked for... 'call' maybe? |
| 20:35 |
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barton |
we used to use it for koaversion.pl |
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barton |
kohaversion.pl. thatever. god rest its soul. |
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pianohacker |
oh god yeah you're right... |
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kidclamp |
heybywater: can anyone tell me why the edit biblio link here is getting half the title in the biblionumber |
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kidclamp |
http://staff.catamount.bywater[…]?q=pope+mussolini |
| 20:39 |
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kidclamp |
Check edit biblio on first result |
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pianohacker |
kidclamp: wrong channel :) |
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talljoy |
heh |
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kidclamp |
heh |
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kidclamp |
nonthing to see folks |
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bag |
hola |
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* talljoy |
takes out her neuralyzer. |
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barton |
pianohacker, misilot: I think 'do' is the command I was looking for. ... `perldoc do`, 3rd stanza. |
| 20:42 |
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bag |
this battlestation is operational |
| 20:42 |
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barton |
Commense primary ignition! |
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misilot |
barton: no documentation for do |
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barton |
perldoc -f do |
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bullwinkle |
but bag, that trick *never* works! |
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misilot |
ok I have it running except even the example doesn't work (it appears to be checking all the links), i only specified a single url |
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misilot |
oh i think its because check-url has a line to just run the check |
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drojf |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hacon_Warmup_2016 |
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mveron-away |
drojf++ |
| 21:37 |
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ashimema |
drojf, we'd want to send at least one dev too :) |
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ashimema |
atheia or myself likely |
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ashimema |
drojf++ |
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drojf |
ashimema: awesome! |
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* cait |
is installing tomcat and eclipse in windows for distance study |
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cait |
... |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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drojf |
cait: that sounds like a lot of things nobody should do |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
yeah.... |
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ashimema |
:) |
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barton |
cait: the dark side of the source. |
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ashimema |
sorry that was meant for drojf |
| 21:42 |
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ashimema |
I got confused between lines |
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ashimema |
what seminar were you doing drojf? |
| 21:42 |
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Dyrcona |
Still, cheers, cait! |
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cait |
cheers Dyrcona :) |
| 21:43 |
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drojf |
i did a general overview, 1,5h koha history/development/system requirements and things like that, 1,5h trying to show the actual system (which is way too little time for that) |
| 21:43 |
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* ashimema |
feel he should now find a drink to join in the 'chinking |
| 21:43 |
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ashimema |
cool, sounds fun :) |
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barton |
Hey, in my thirst to know all about notices and slips, apparently I missed the expansion of <<items.fine>> ... someone told me about it, but I don't know which notices can use it. |
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Dyrcona |
Everyone seems to like to poo-poo Java, but I still like it after all these years. |
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cait |
barton: only overdues |
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ashimema |
Java ain't terrible.. it's just a bit of a heavy stack. |
| 21:44 |
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cait |
inside of <item> |
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* francesca |
doesn't know how to code in java |
| 21:45 |
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ashimema |
that's my opinion on it at least.. |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
or <items>? you know which :) |
| 21:45 |
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* ashimema |
hasn't coded java for at least 5 years now |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
my main problem with java is that i don#t use it :) |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
usually... outside of the distance study |
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cait |
and I did the last courses using it ... years ago |
| 21:45 |
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ashimema |
but my monitor is propped on 'Developing Java Software - Second Edition' |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
so i have to start all over |
| 21:45 |
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ashimema |
makes a good monitor stand |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
| 21:46 |
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ashimema |
I found java to nearly write itself if you have a good editor |
| 21:46 |
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ashimema |
right.. best go keep the other half company. |
| 21:46 |
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ashimema |
more chirstmas present wrapping to do |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:46 |
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ashimema |
have a good evening everyone |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
have fun! |
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Dyrcona |
'night. |
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barton |
cait ... I'm not sure that <<items.fine>> is expanded in all notices. |
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barton |
owait. I think that we had that discussion... |
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cait |
barton: only in overdues |
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cait |
inside the item tag |
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ashimema |
crap.. I thought those dates for kohacon and berlin rang a bell :( |
| 21:49 |
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ashimema |
they coincide exactly with the school break here |
| 21:49 |
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ashimema |
so that kinda counts me out of attending either :'( |
| 21:51 |
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* francesca |
is playing reciptionist today |
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cait |
:( |
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cait |
that's bad news |
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cait |
bring the family? greece is nice...i am sure |
| 21:51 |
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cait |
berlin too |
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drojf |
ashimema: get a huge appartment together with magnuse+family :) |
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barton |
cait: updated http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Specific_Markup . See ISSUESLIP. |
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ashimema |
already got a trip to france booked so can't change. |
| 22:02 |
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barton |
^^ anyone who wants to help out: that wiki page has a few entries that need to be filled in for messages implemented using SendAlerts. I'll owe you an hour of thanks yous :-) |
| 22:02 |
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ashimema |
so annoying, this'll be the third kohacon in a row I'll have missed. |
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rangi |
they revoke your membership after 4 |
| 22:02 |
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rangi |
so you better watch out |
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ashimema |
haha |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: I'm finding yaz commit f24766f1e9fc to be ... interesting with respect to newish Zebra versions not delivering facets |
| 22:03 |
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ashimema |
marseille hackfest will have to be my koha meetup fix for the year then |
| 22:03 |
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barton |
rangi: hm. I don't think I *am* a member. |
| 22:03 |
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gmcharlt |
upshot - if you're using a Zebra compiled against a newish Yaz... the following no longer works: <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*" /> |
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* ashimema |
dissapears again.. time to have a drink |
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gmcharlt |
however, enumerating each special element set *does* work |
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gmcharlt |
e.g., |
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gmcharlt |
<retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::facet::au:0:20" /> |
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cait |
barton: i meant overdue notices |
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cait |
inside of <item> </item> |
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barton |
ah. |
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barton |
Time to update the wiki :-D |
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wizzyrea |
isn't all of that in the manual? |
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cait |
some of it is i think, not sure if all |
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wizzyrea |
and if it isn't, why isn't it |
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drojf |
ashimema: berlin may be an option more often. the room is next to my office and we can use it, so i hope there are a few koha people from time to time that do |
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* drojf |
lures everybody to berlin |
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cait |
hey :) |
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dcook |
I wouldn't be opposed to Berlin, in theory :D |
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drojf |
ha! |
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drojf |
great :) |
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dcook |
Probably not going anywhere until 2017, alas, but keep the ideas and planning coming! |
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drojf |
can't you get stockholm to pay the trip in a sudden oai-pmh twist? :D |
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wizzyrea |
creepy chicken? |
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wizzyrea |
the creepiest chicken? |
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wizzyrea |
creepiest chicken? |
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* drojf |
harvests dcook |
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wizzyrea |
noooo wahanuiiiii |
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wizzyrea |
rangi: can you rescue wahanui? |
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pianohacker |
rangi: no, wahanui, not magnuse |
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cait |
? |
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francesca |
Where has wahanui gone |
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wizzyrea |
it's ok he'll be back |
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wizzyrea |
he probably crashed. |
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dcook |
Eeep! I'm being harvested! |
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wizzyrea |
O.o kinky |
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dcook |
And how |
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dcook |
drojf: Nah, I'll be working non-stop to get it done ;) |
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dcook |
Speaking of which... *peaces out to go work on the oai-pmh stuff* |
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dcook |
Actually, I lie. I'm going to do some EBSCO stuff first. |
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drojf |
noo, do the cool stuff :P |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I am actually quite enjoying it |
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dcook |
The daemon is getting to a good place.. |
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dcook |
Still planning the importer a bit.. |
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dcook |
Actually, where's tcohen when you need him.. |
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dcook |
While the daemon should be able to download things quite quickly, the actual import is going to be a bit slow.. |
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dcook |
Although of course there are lots of ideas about that.. |
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dcook |
Ideally, I'd like to use a Koha API, and just send HTTP requests asynchronously, although I might stress out Apache.. |
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dcook |
Thinking of actually making a second daemon.. |
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dcook |
Anyone familiar with the new indexer we're using with Zebra? |
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dcook |
One daemon to download the record, and one daemon to bind them |
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dcook |
Doesn't sound as impressive as LOTR.. |
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magnuse |
pianohacker: ? |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
tcohen probably ;) |
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pianohacker |
magnuse: don't worry about it |
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dcook |
drojf: I'll investigate myself :) |
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dcook |
I might even put it off as speed might not be a huge problem |
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dcook |
One of those optimizations that can possibly wait |
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francesca |
Lunch time |
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dcook |
Although if it's around the whole design of the importer... perhaps best to get it right from the start |
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magnuse |
pianohacker: now i worry... |
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magnuse |
(in my sleep) |
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dcook |
Ah, I see... koha-indexer by default just uses rebuild_zebra.pl... it just uses the system "daemon" command to manage it.. |
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dcook |
Which just exports records from zebra_queue and puts them in a directory for the daemon to deal with.. |
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dcook |
I've wondered a bit what would happen if you stuck the same record into the Zebra directory twice... I suppose it would try to process it twice unless it has some extra special handling for that.. |
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dcook |
I have been thinking about the downloading daemon just spitting files into a directory and then having an importer daemon slurp them up... |
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dcook |
In theory, the importer daemon could actually be used for all sorts of records and not just those from the OAI-PMH downloader |
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* drojf |
falls in the general bed direction |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
night drojf |
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drojf |
gnight. see you at 7am maybe ;) |
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dcook |
probably :p |
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