Time  Nick          Message
23:14 dcook         probably :p
23:13 drojf         gnight. see you at 7am maybe ;)
23:13 dcook         night drojf
23:13 dcook         hehe
23:13 * drojf       falls in the general bed direction
23:13 dcook         In theory, the importer daemon could actually be used for all sorts of records and not just those from the OAI-PMH downloader
23:12 dcook         I have been thinking about the downloading daemon just spitting files into a directory and then having an importer daemon slurp them up...
23:11 dcook         I've wondered a bit what would happen if you stuck the same record into the Zebra directory twice... I suppose it would try to process it twice unless it has some extra special handling for that..
23:10 dcook         Which just exports records from zebra_queue and puts them in a directory for the daemon to deal with..
23:08 dcook         Ah, I see... koha-indexer by default just uses rebuild_zebra.pl... it just uses the system "daemon" command to manage it..
23:05 magnuse       (in my sleep)
23:05 magnuse       pianohacker: now i worry...
23:02 dcook         Although if it's around the whole design of the importer... perhaps best to get it right from the start
23:02 francesca     Lunch time
23:02 dcook         One of those optimizations that can possibly wait
23:02 dcook         I might even put it off as speed might not be a huge problem
23:02 dcook         drojf: I'll investigate myself :)
23:00 pianohacker   magnuse: don't worry about it
22:55 drojf         tcohen probably ;)
22:55 drojf         lol
22:55 magnuse       pianohacker: ?
22:55 dcook         Doesn't sound as impressive as LOTR..
22:55 dcook         One daemon to download the record, and one daemon to bind them
22:55 dcook         Anyone familiar with the new indexer we're using with Zebra?
22:55 dcook         Thinking of actually making a second daemon..
22:54 dcook         Ideally, I'd like to use a Koha API, and just send HTTP requests asynchronously, although I might stress out Apache..
22:54 dcook         Although of course there are lots of ideas about that..
22:53 dcook         While the daemon should be able to download things quite quickly, the actual import is going to be a bit slow..
22:53 dcook         Actually, where's tcohen when you need him..
22:53 dcook         Still planning the importer a bit..
22:53 dcook         The daemon is getting to a good place..
22:52 dcook         I am actually quite enjoying it
22:52 dcook         hehe
22:52 drojf         noo, do the cool stuff :P
22:52 dcook         Actually, I lie. I'm going to do some EBSCO stuff first.
22:51 dcook         Speaking of which... *peaces out to go work on the oai-pmh stuff*
22:51 dcook         drojf: Nah, I'll be working non-stop to get it done ;)
22:51 dcook         And how
22:51 wizzyrea      O.o kinky
22:51 dcook         Eeep! I'm being harvested!
22:51 wizzyrea      he probably crashed.
22:51 wizzyrea      it's ok he'll be back
22:50 francesca     Where has wahanui gone
22:48 cait          ?
22:46 pianohacker   rangi: no, wahanui, not magnuse
22:44 wizzyrea      rangi: can you rescue wahanui?
22:44 wizzyrea      noooo wahanuiiiii
22:44 * drojf       harvests dcook
22:44 wizzyrea      creepiest chicken?
22:44 wizzyrea      the creepiest chicken?
22:43 wizzyrea      creepy chicken?
22:43 drojf         can't you get stockholm to pay the trip in a sudden oai-pmh twist? :D
22:43 dcook         Probably not going anywhere until 2017, alas, but keep the ideas and planning coming!
22:42 drojf         great :)
22:41 drojf         ha!
22:38 dcook         I wouldn't be opposed to Berlin, in theory :D
22:17 cait          hey :)
22:14 * drojf       lures everybody to berlin
22:07 drojf         ashimema: berlin may be an option more often. the room is next to my office and we can use it, so i hope there are a few koha people from time to time that do
22:07 wizzyrea      and if it isn't, why isn't it
22:07 cait          some of it is i think, not sure if all
22:07 wizzyrea      isn't all of that in the manual?
22:07 barton        Time to update the wiki :-D
22:06 barton        ah.
22:05 cait          inside of  <item> </item>
22:05 cait          barton: i meant overdue notices
22:04 gmcharlt      <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::facet::au:0:20" />
22:04 gmcharlt      e.g.,
22:04 gmcharlt      however, enumerating each special element set *does* work
22:04 * ashimema    dissapears again.. time to have a drink
22:03 gmcharlt      upshot - if you're using a Zebra compiled against a newish Yaz... the following no longer works: <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*" />
22:03 barton        rangi: hm. I don't think I *am* a member.
22:03 ashimema      marseille hackfest will have to be my koha meetup fix for the year then
22:02 gmcharlt      tcohen: I'm finding yaz commit f24766f1e9fc to be ... interesting with respect to newish Zebra versions not delivering facets
22:02 ashimema      haha
22:02 rangi         so you better watch out
22:02 rangi         they revoke your membership after 4
22:02 ashimema      so annoying, this'll be the third kohacon in a row I'll have missed.
22:02 barton        ^^ anyone who wants to help out: that wiki page has a few entries that need to be filled in for messages implemented using SendAlerts. I'll owe you an hour of thanks yous :-)
22:00 ashimema      already got a trip to france booked so can't change.
21:57 barton        cait: updated http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Customising_Notices_and_Slips#Notice_Specific_Markup . See ISSUESLIP.
21:57 drojf         ashimema: get a huge appartment together with magnuse+family :)
21:51 cait          berlin too
21:51 cait          bring the family? greece is nice...i am sure
21:51 cait          that's bad news
21:51 cait          :(
21:51 * francesca   is playing reciptionist today
21:49 ashimema      so that kinda counts me out of attending either :'(
21:49 ashimema      they coincide exactly with the school break here
21:49 ashimema      crap.. I thought those dates for kohacon and berlin rang a bell :(
21:48 cait          inside the item tag
21:48 cait          barton: only in overdues
21:47 barton        owait. I think that we had that discussion...
21:47 barton        cait ... I'm not sure that <<items.fine>> is expanded in all notices.
21:46 Dyrcona       'night.
21:46 cait          have fun!
21:46 ashimema      have a good evening everyone
21:46 cait          :)
21:46 ashimema      more chirstmas present wrapping to do
21:46 ashimema      right.. best go keep the other half company.
21:46 ashimema      I found java to nearly write itself if you have a good editor
21:45 Dyrcona       heh
21:45 ashimema      makes a good monitor stand
21:45 cait          so i have to start all over
21:45 ashimema      but my monitor is propped on 'Developing Java Software - Second Edition'
21:45 cait          and I did the last courses using it ... years ago
21:45 cait          usually... outside of the distance study
21:45 cait          my main problem with java is that i don#t use it :)
21:45 * ashimema    hasn't coded java for at least 5 years now
21:45 cait          or <items>? you know which :)
21:45 ashimema      that's my opinion on it at least..
21:45 * francesca   doesn't know how to code in java
21:44 cait          inside of <item>
21:44 ashimema      Java ain't terrible.. it's just a bit of a heavy stack.
21:44 cait          barton: only overdues
21:44 Dyrcona       Everyone seems to like to poo-poo Java, but I still like it after all these years.
21:44 barton        Hey, in my thirst to know all about notices and slips, apparently I missed the expansion of <<items.fine>> ... someone told me about it, but I don't know which notices can use it.
21:43 ashimema      cool, sounds fun :)
21:43 * ashimema    feel he should now find a drink to join in the 'chinking
21:43 drojf         i did a general overview, 1,5h koha history/development/system requirements and things like that, 1,5h trying to show the actual system (which is way too little time for that)
21:43 cait          cheers Dyrcona :)
21:42 Dyrcona       Still, cheers, cait!
21:42 ashimema      what seminar were you doing drojf?
21:42 ashimema      I got confused between lines
21:41 ashimema      sorry that was meant for drojf
21:41 cait          [off] cheers ashimema?
21:41 barton        cait: the dark side of the source.
21:41 ashimema      [off] cheers cait
21:41 ashimema      :)
21:41 cait          yeah....
21:41 drojf         cait: that sounds like a lot of things nobody should do
21:40 drojf         [off] ashimema ^^
21:40 drojf         [off] i had (pre-)clients of yours in my seminar yesterday btw. i indoctrinated everyone to choose community-active vendors and they asked if you are among those ;)
21:39 cait          *sigh*
21:39 cait          ...
21:39 * cait        is installing tomcat and eclipse in windows for distance study
21:38 drojf         ashimema: awesome!
21:37 ashimema      drojf++
21:37 ashimema      atheia or myself likely
21:37 ashimema      drojf, we'd want to send at least one dev too :)
21:36 mveron-away   drojf++
21:33 drojf         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Kohacon_Warmup_2016
20:47 misilot       oh i think its because check-url has a line to just run the check
20:46 misilot       ok I have it running except even the example doesn't work (it appears to be checking all the links), i only specified a single url
20:45 bullwinkle    but bag, that trick *never* works!
20:43 barton        perldoc -f do
20:42 misilot       barton: no documentation for do
20:42 barton        Commense primary ignition!
20:42 bag           this battlestation is operational
20:42 barton        pianohacker, misilot: I think 'do' is the command I was looking for. ... `perldoc do`, 3rd stanza.
20:41 * talljoy     takes out her neuralyzer.
20:40 bag           hola
20:40 kidclamp      nonthing to see folks
20:39 kidclamp      heh
20:39 talljoy       heh
20:39 pianohacker   kidclamp: wrong channel :)
20:39 kidclamp      Check edit biblio on first result
20:39 kidclamp      http://staff.catamount.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbooks.pl?q=pope+mussolini
20:39 kidclamp      heybywater: can anyone tell me why the edit biblio link here is getting half the title in the biblionumber
20:37 pianohacker   oh god yeah you're right...
20:35 barton        kohaversion.pl. thatever. god rest its soul.
20:35 barton        we used to use it for koaversion.pl
20:35 barton        having said that, I know that there is a perl keyword for doing what I first asked for... 'call' maybe?
20:34 pianohacker   yup yup
20:34 barton        just for quick and dirty.
20:34 barton        You could pretty much just copy misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl to C4/URL/Checker.pm
20:33 barton        's right.
20:33 barton        misilot: actually, I think pianohacker
20:32 misilot       i'm trying to just provide an example where the check-url.pl script fails since it doesn't support cookies (so I can submit a ticket asking for cookies)
20:32 barton        yeah, mine too, but just for giggles...
20:31 pianohacker   my vote would be to refactor that package into a proper module
20:30 barton        the package 'C4::URL::Checker' is defined in  misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl. ... how do I call C4::URL::Checker from an external script?
20:30 pianohacker   we don't know you...
20:30 pianohacker   /kick barto
20:29 barton        hola #koha!
20:07 francesca     I'm in love with today's Google doodle
20:03 cait          but certainly interested!
20:03 cait          it might take me a while to give you a definite answer
20:03 cait          cool
20:02 drojf         also a doodle or dudle or similar about who would come and for how many days
20:01 drojf         cait: yes before. i will check what options we have and we will probably all travel together some way on sunday or saturday (might be cheaper/better times). i will gather some info and throw it in the wiki soon
19:57 cait          so we would travel sunday to greece for kohacon starting monday then?
19:57 cait          i will try my best to keep that free
19:57 cait          just have to see if i can manage - you plan before kohacon right?
19:56 drojf         cait: yay \o/
19:55 oleonard      See you later, all. When I return I will still have not seen the new Star Wars movie.
19:55 cait          drojf: i want to come too :)
19:53 drojf         the spoiler is probably more fun than the movie ;) *hides*
19:52 Dyrcona       It's an ugly spoiler at that. :)
19:52 Dyrcona       ha! ha!
19:52 eythian       magnuse: only one eye?
19:52 eythian       Only a few points where you really notice it, and that's by design, making you want to reach out and grab the thing
19:51 * magnuse     will not see anything in 3d
19:51 eythian       oleonard: it's not bad actually.
19:50 pianohacker   jeez, eythian, that's a huge spoiler
19:50 oleonard      Star Wars + 3D feels a little wrong, but I'm old.
19:49 eythian       Yep
19:49 oleonard      eythian: 3D?
19:48 eythian       You know you want to
19:48 eythian       magnuse: it's not a big spoiler
19:48 oleonard      Yeah don't make me have to swear off IRC as well as Twitter and Facebook until I get to see it
19:48 eythian       Sweet.
19:48 rangi         eythian: taking the kids after work
19:48 magnuse       is not clicking on that
19:47 eythian       Spoiler: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWSso9GWUAA9SzD.jpg
19:47 magnuse       yay
19:47 eythian       Just been to see Star Wars. I recommend it.
19:46 magnuse       hiya eythian
19:46 magnuse       i based my work on nncipp on some branch from Dyrcona - sounds like we might have some work to do...
19:45 eythian       Hi
19:44 rangi         *nod*
19:44 Dyrcona       I've been making a lot of changes after going live with the Evergreen NCIP... 'cause y'know...testing never gets everything.
19:43 rangi         magnuse: yeah that's the plan
19:43 rangi         however im pretty sure masscat are running the master branch in production currently (or at least final testing before it's live live)
19:42 magnuse       yeah, using the rest api would be super cool, then one ncipserver culd serve many koha instances (i think)
19:41 rangi         magnuse: yep, that needs to be rewritten to be use the rest api anyway .. then merging the lib/NCIP/Handler stuff .. if that makes sense
19:41 Dyrcona       My changes are in user/dyrcona/better_abstraction which ended up becoming the Evergreen driver branch.
19:40 Dyrcona       It still works in the master branch of the "public" working repo.
19:40 magnuse       from what i have seen it is more a question of rewriting  NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm than just merging, but i might have missed something
19:40 rangi         magnuse: it does on the catalyst repo, but yep, gotta merge those
19:39 magnuse       Dyrcona changed a lot of the basics, so the work you did does not work any longer, rangi
19:39 drojf         ok awesome, we go from "i wonder if someone will come to berlin" to "omg everyone is coming, i only have room for 20 people" again :D
19:39 rangi         yep have to merge the branches .. its not super hard, just time consuming and of course no one is gonna want to pay for that :)
19:39 magnuse       but there is some work to be done, if we want it to be a common project for evergreen and koha
19:38 rangi         then it could sit anywhere
19:38 rangi         to use the rest api
19:38 rangi         what should be done, is it should be rewritten (not much to do actually) at least the NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm module
19:38 magnuse       gotcha
19:38 rangi         we made that mistake with SIP
19:38 magnuse       ok, misread you then
19:38 rangi         magnuse: hell no
19:37 rangi         http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/68930308689/working-on-ncip-kohails
19:37 magnuse       rangi: you think NCIPServer should be folded into koha?
19:37 magnuse       yay!
19:37 rangi         vendor embrace and extend ftw!!
19:37 rangi         currently
19:37 rangi         yeah its fair to say, NCIPserver + Koha supports Autographics NCIP
19:37 drojf         we have a great non-ncip proprietary ILL protocol. lol. yay germany
19:36 oleonard      Now I have to think, "What are the reasons for having NCIP that we discussed at the time someone quoted us $50,000 to add NCIP support to Koha?"
19:36 * drojf       sighs
19:36 magnuse       it's probably more meanngful to talk about which profiles it supports, like NNCIPP (Norwegian NCIP Profile)
19:36 rangi         ncip?
19:36 rangi         magnuse: true .. and it has issues
19:36 rangi         liw: that's totally fair enough, im sure we can rustle up some sponsorship or the like :)
19:35 magnuse       rangi, oleonard: and what does "support for ncip" mean? it's a big standard
19:35 liw           rangi, sure. I am basically willing to do that anywhere, any time, as long as it suits my other committments and I can find a way to cover costs (I'd rather not pay for travel, hotels out of my own pocket; alas)
19:34 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13930 enhancement, P3, ---, mail, Needs Signoff , Add supporting service svc/ncip for xnciptoolkit driver
19:34 rangi         oleonard: if bug 13930 is pushed then it would be correct to say Koha supports the xnciptoolkit
19:34 oleonard      Berlin + Thessaloniki would be so great.
19:34 rangi         but you know .. marketing
19:34 drojf         oh right. if that is an option for you…
19:34 rangi         oleonard: well, there is an NCIP server that will work with Koha .. is more correct than Koha has NCIP support, the work I did didnt touch Koha itself
19:33 rangi         liw: that sounds great to me! even if it couldnt be at kohacon proper maybe that could be at the preconf thing drojf is organising in berlin
19:33 drojf         liw: i'd be interested. but you would have to arrange with the catmandu people if they actually come and do a workshop too, so i can do both :)
19:33 oleonard      I guess I'm just out of the loop
19:33 * oleonard    was surprised to year someone on the ByWater list say Koha had NCIP support.
19:32 rangi         oleonard: afaik MassCat are using the NCIP server stuff Dyrcona and I mostly wrote in production, however there are a couple of branches that need to be reconciled/merged its on my todo list
19:31 rangi         or there is the XC NCIP toolkit way, which there is a bug for lemme find it
19:31 liw           I noticed that Kohacon's going to be May 30 onwards... I have marked my calendar just in case. Next year's looking a bit potentially gloomy, though. (/me timidly ponders offering a 4-hour Debian packaging tutorial workshop, if there's interest)
19:31 rangi         its a separate project that we should make sure we dont go all SIP on, and fold it into Koha
19:31 rangi         http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=NCIPServer.git;a=summary  <-- this one .. or its a little more up to date in the catalyst repo
19:30 drojf         you can even choose from several, can't you?
19:30 rangi         in a couple of ways
19:30 rangi         separately
19:30 rangi         it does
19:29 * oleonard    didn't think it had it
19:29 oleonard      So uh... When did Koha get NCIP support?
19:28 drojf         *europe
19:28 drojf         you're not here every day, use as much europa as you can :D
19:28 drojf         :)
19:25 rangi         thats why i normally like trains :) would ge to see slovakia, hungary, serbia etc on the way .. but yeah bit too long
19:24 drojf         best connection from berlin is direct, 2,5h. but some cheapo airline where you have to book everything extra (still the cheapest with all options)
19:23 drojf         heh if the view is good from the train? :D
19:22 drojf         [off] not sure what a realistic time frame is. 3 days? we probably do not want to be exhausted before the real thing :D i reserved the room monday to sunday for now
19:21 rangi         hmm 2 days on a train... that might be too long .. flights it is :)
19:21 drojf         [off] i reserved the room before i asked on the list. there are a few fixed dates like tai chi people on wedesdays at 5, but i was told they are usually outside during summer time anyway.
19:19 rangi         Kchris: then there should be nothing persistent (except the data in the database) so you shouldnt need to restart anything
19:19 Kchris        rangi: no, I am not running plack or memcached.
19:16 drojf         i doubt we will max out the connections :)
19:16 mveron        drojf++
19:15 drojf         rangi: i checked two way flights and there were a lot of options. i will set up a wiki page with infos like that now that the first people show interest
19:14 rangi         or memcached?
19:13 rangi         Kchris: no, unless it changes the apache configuration in some way .. however are you running plack?
19:13 Kchris        After applying the patch, is it necessary to restart Apache?
19:13 rangi         drojf: im assuming there are lots of flights and/or trains from berlin to thessaloniki ?
19:11 mveron        to travel
19:11 mveron        drojf:I consider ot travel to Berlin as well...
19:11 Kchris        rangi++, mveron++
19:11 mveron        Kchris: If it does not apply you should have a message
19:10 rangi         Kchris: you should see the patch as the top commit
19:10 drojf         rangi: woohoo, feedback :)
19:10 rangi         Kchris: git log
19:10 Kchris        Attempting to test on local development environment: Once a patch is applied with via git bz, is there a way to verify that the patch is successfully applied?
19:09 rangi         drojf: for the record, i think something in berlin before kohacon is a good idea
19:09 Kchris        mveron:OpacFineNoRenewals=100, patron fine=200. It seems there may be a table missing on sandbox???
19:08 * drojf       peeps
19:08 rangi         sup peeps
19:08 mveron        And how much fines has the patron?
19:07 mveron        Kchris: What is the value of OPACFineNoRenewals?
19:06 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15374 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability: Fix issues on OPAC summary page
19:06 Kchris        mveron: Testing bug 15374. I did set system preference for OPACFineNoRenewals, but the sandboxes don't seem to total fines...
19:01 * mveron      waves
18:38 * drojf       joins the wave
18:37 * Kchris      waves
18:36 * magnuse     waves again
17:19 * mveron      needs something to eat...
17:14 mveron        K_chris: If OPACFineNoRenewals is empty nothing is calculated
17:13 mveron        K_chris: ^^^
17:13 mveron        Hi drojf :-)
17:13 mveron        K_crhis: I added a manual fine o a patron that exceeds the value of syspref OPACFineNoRenewals
17:07 drojf         evening
17:03 K_chris       mveron: to test with the fines, I have applying the patch on a local development environment using bz. But I am new to this.
17:02 * mveron      is checking regarding the fines
17:01 mveron        K_chris: Yes, it is the link for opac-memberentry.pl
16:59 K_chris       i have tested everything on a sandbox (14) except for fines: it doesn't seem that fines (total due) is getting computed. "no data available in table"
16:54 mveron        Let me have a look
16:53 K_chris       that's the link you fixed, i think.
16:53 K_chris       right?
16:53 K_chris       the link you are referring to is for is to /opac-memberentry.pl
16:52 mveron        K_chris: Yes?  :-)
16:51 K_chris       mveron: I have been testing but 15374 some more.
16:33 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
16:33 ashimema      @later tell rangi, maybe read the irc backlog first.. more got talked about regarding utf8 on git-bz
16:08 mtompset      But you are right about the reversion.
16:08 mtompset      BTW, utf_8, Joubu? I think the header should be utf-8. :)
16:06 mtompset      signed off. :)
16:05 mveron        :-)
16:05 mtompset      mveron: That works for the unpatched version. :)
16:05 mveron        mtompset: Patch applied fine here. I changed the commit message to remove the é.
16:01 reiveune      bye
15:45 mtompset      mveron... tryusing html code for the accent?
15:45 Joubu         commit 4666a5ae4d8fab588c7481d6d48ff6ea6eee1da1
15:45 Joubu         mtompset: actually you revert a previous change fixing utf8 issues
15:45 mtompset      In A meeting. sorry... 1.25 hours still.
15:42 mveron        to the
15:42 mveron        mtompset: Was the problem related toteh commit message or to tha patch? - I remember thet there were issues with characters like '>' copy/pasted from Koha breadcrumbs
15:38 mtompset      Yes.
15:35 * mveron      was wondering what was blowing up with his name
15:34 mveron        I was reading back...  The é in my name?
15:34 mtompset      That fixes the apply, so I can apply your patch. :P
15:34 mtompset      http://paste.koha-community.org/224
15:33 mveron        Hi mtompset
15:33 mtompset      Thanks for an excuse to fix utf-8 issues in git-bz. :P
15:33 mtompset      Greetings, mveron.
15:33 * mtompset    grins at magnuse.
15:27 * magnuse     fears there is no such thing as getting rid of encoding problems once and for alle
15:25 mveron        Hi again #koha
15:17 cait          hm maybe a different prob
15:17 cait          the utf-8 prob
15:17 cait          hm i thougt we had it fixed
15:16 * JesseM      waves back
15:14 * magnuse     waves
14:53 mtompset      Now to fix that.
14:53 mtompset      Nope... attach blows up.
14:51 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
14:51 ashimema      @later tell rangi, are you the man with the keys to the git-bz repository.. can we apply http://paste.koha-community.org/224 to fishsoup?
14:50 ashimema      when he wakes up ;)
14:49 ashimema      pop that paste link in a pm to rangi.. i'm sure he'd apply it for you
14:49 ashimema      I've been meaning to look at that for ages
14:49 ashimema      awesome..
14:49 ashimema      that's the utf8 problem.
14:49 ashimema      ooh..
14:48 mtompset      about to attempt a sign off and attach. :)
14:48 mtompset      at least the apply...
14:47 mtompset      after patch, git bz works fine
14:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
14:47 mtompset      before patch bug 7143 (Marc Véron) blows up
14:46 pastebot      "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Here's the git-bz patch" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224
14:45 Joubu         I can push into the contrib repo, not sure I can push into git-bz
14:45 ashimema      or rangi
14:45 ashimema      I 'think' Joubu has some keys to it
14:44 ashimema      we maintain our own copy in git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git
14:44 ashimema      indeed..
14:43 mtompset      Not a koha patch with git-bz, but a patch to git-bz itself.
14:43 ashimema      Joubu
14:43 mtompset      Anyone have an idea of how to submit a git-bz patch?
14:43 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
14:24 ashimema      https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl
14:24 ashimema      pass then.. I have no idea how you'd reference it
14:24 ashimema      the module is embedded within the script!
14:24 ashimema      that's some horrible code..
14:24 ashimema      ack..
14:22 ashimema      I don't actually see that module in master..
14:22 ashimema      also..
14:22 ashimema      erm..
14:20 ashimema      you'll need to add koha lib to you PERL5LIB or @INC to call the module
14:20 ashimema      I presume this is a program external to Koha?
14:20 ashimema      erm..
14:11 misilot       question, how would I write a small program that utilizes the synopsis section in http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/cronjobs/check-url.html I keep getting a can't locate C4/URL/Checker.pm Thanks!
13:17 ashimema      so may not nesesarily be the browser but the font's it's pulling in from the system ;)
13:17 ashimema      could be any number of reasons for not displaying.. some font sets just don't include the icons for all characters for example.
13:16 oleonard      Yeah the "uni" in "unicode" must not stand for universal. :P
13:16 ashimema      I'll try to remember to use the second one over the first now ;)
13:15 ashimema      mwah.. worth knowing though..
13:15 ashimema      how odd
13:15 ashimema      oth are thumbs up.. first one right facing, second one left facing
13:15 cait          one good, one bad
13:15 cait          same as oleonard
13:15 ashimema      browser support also varies I feel
13:15 ashimema      both look ok in the log for me ;)
13:14 oleonard      The first one didn't work but the second one did (in Chatzilla). Looks the same in the log to me too: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-12-16
13:14 cait          but might be config
13:14 cait          pidgin on windows fails
13:13 ashimema      I is in smuxi too
13:13 tcohen        smuxi shows it ok, hi ashimema!
13:12 cait          looks like my client fails to show it :)
13:12 cait          aah
13:12 * ashimema    likes some of the unicode chars.. thumbs up is nice ;)
13:12 cait          not sure what that is you are posting hter
13:12 ashimema      but for good measure 👍
13:11 ashimema      oops
13:11 ashimema      wrong channel
13:10 cait          ashimema: ?
13:10 ashimema      🖒
12:59 tcohen        hi cait :-D
12:59 cait          morning tcohen :)
12:57 tcohen        morning #koha
12:50 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:15 xarragon      Is it worth adding tests that calls the OPAC and greps the html output for the expected data?
11:13 ashimema      hehe
11:12 * Joubu       should have backlogged everything before answering
11:12 Joubu         ok too late :)
11:12 Joubu         ashimema: my IRC client displays the ip when someone enters the room
11:09 LibraryClaire ashimema: thanks - I haven't put much on the site recently... much in progress :)
11:09 LibraryClaire back - yeah I am just in the web browser, PC here wouldn't let me install a client >:(
10:59 drojf         there is also /whowas if somebody left already
10:53 ashimema      thanks liw
10:53 cait          ah thx!
10:53 ashimema      oh, interesting.. I had no idea you could do that
10:52 liw           ah, the /wii command may be client specific; I think the general command is /whois
10:52 cait          maybe depending on the client too?
10:52 liw           some IRC networks offer "cloaks" which hide teh address the user is coming from
10:52 cait          unknown command
10:52 cait          hm doesn't work for me
10:52 liw           also visible with the IRC command "/wii ashimema"
10:51 liw           depending on the IRC client, you might or mightnot see it (and it can be shown in various ways)
10:51 liw           ashimema, when someone joines an channel, there's a message such as this: -!- LibraryClaire [~oftc-webi@195-195-80-207.arts.ac.uk] has joined #koha
10:47 ashimema      nice site LibraryClaire
10:47 * ashimema    just found: http://www.libraryclaire.co.uk/
10:46 * cait        thinks Joubu is a wizard :P
10:45 ashimema      your right.. but I wondered how you could tell from irc
10:45 ashimema      Joubu.. how did you get arts.ac.uk there?
10:43 cait          :)
10:42 LibraryClaire brb - meeting :0
10:42 LibraryClaire cool! :)
10:41 cait          in Konstanz
10:41 cait          I am in Germany, working for BSZ - another Koha support provider
10:41 LibraryClaire how about you cait?
10:40 cait          oh nice :)
10:36 LibraryClaire Joubu: yes, University of the Arts
10:35 Joubu         I think arts.ac.uk is a PTFS-E's partner
10:35 LibraryClaire Hi cait :) I'm based in London
10:34 cait          hi LibraryClaire :) being curious - where are you from? :)
10:34 cait          Joubu++
09:11 LibraryClaire morning #koha :)
08:59 ashimema      morning #koha
08:59 ashimema      morning Joubu
08:47 Joubu         Good morning #koha
08:26 gaetan_B      hello
08:04 alex_a        bonjour
07:55 reiveune      hello
07:37 rangi         people are weird
07:37 rangi         where does someone even find 3.12.6 ?
07:02 drojf1        morning #koha
06:20 Nacronic      hello all I have installed koha 3.12.6 and i am running to session time out problem though i have set it to ""120000"" in global preferances
06:15 Nacronic      hello
03:28 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha.
01:41 wizzyrea      (but seriously, don't do that.)
01:41 wizzyrea      <shame>
01:40 wizzyrea      [off] but... but... I want to poke fun at horizon...
01:31 dcook         ^
01:30 francescam    That's a really interesting article
01:23 rangi         http://blog.aurynn.com/86/contempt-culture  <-- good read
01:22 dcook         Thanks for asking :D
01:22 dcook         francescam: Not too bad here but I'm about 9km from the edge of the coast
01:19 francescam    Call me behind the times but dcook: just saw the twister news, how are you faring over in Sydney?
01:05 wizzyrea      and it's only forecast 20 tomorrow
01:05 wizzyrea      cooler
01:05 wizzyrea      naw, but from the south so probably cold :)
01:05 dcook         That's not too bad
01:05 wizzyrea      Winds northeasterly 15 to 20 km/h shifting south to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h during the afternoon and evening.
01:04 * dcook       shrugs
01:04 wizzyrea      it must have been hot-ish, and cold front is coming in?
00:59 dcook         Looks like another burst is coming as well... http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65152.shtml
00:56 * wizzyrea    hopes not
00:56 wizzyrea      eeks.
00:56 dcook         I'm guessing the building collapses were right on the coast.. :(
00:56 dcook         Here's hoping my house is still intact...
00:56 dcook         This building is pretty solid. We had medium rain for a few minutes, but it's clear again here
00:56 dcook         That's sweet of you
00:56 dcook         Awww
00:56 wizzyrea      You went away and then I was scared for you!
00:56 dcook         wizzyrea: Yikes!
00:38 wizzyrea      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11562002&ref=NZH_Tw dcook !!!!
00:24 dcook         Exactly!
00:23 wizzyrea      You are cursing yourself.
00:10 dcook         Maybe I should stop talking about it :p
00:09 dcook         Oh, it's getting a bit heavier
00:09 dcook         Well 9km from the east coast
00:09 dcook         I'm about 9km from the coast, so not too bad yet
00:08 dcook         I think it's mostly hitting right on the coast
00:08 dcook         We have a bit of rain right now but not too bad
00:08 dcook         Yeah, the worst storms we got were snow storms
00:08 dcook         hehe
00:01 wizzyrea      boring to look out the window at whilst flying over inland.
00:01 wizzyrea      flyover whilst sleeping inland.
00:01 wizzyrea      flyover country inland.
00:00 wizzyrea      like, way inland.
00:00 wizzyrea      the entirety of my thunderstorm knowledge is of inland ones
00:00 wizzyrea      I bet you'll get some waterspouts
00:00 wizzyrea      i'm always surprised when there are thunderstorms like that so near the sea