IRC log for #koha, 2015-12-15

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05:29 BobB is this the quietest working day in #koha ever?
05:29 BobB over 6 hours since a post
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07:11 petter morning
07:20 ashimema morning #koha
07:28 eythian Hi
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07:41 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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07:42 reiveune hello
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07:50 drojf morning #koha
07:51 drojf woohoo kohacon dates!
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07:58 alex_a bonjour
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08:02 Joubu hi
08:02 mveron Good morning Joubu :-)
08:03 drojf hi Joubu and mveron
08:03 mveron ...and hi drojf !   :-)
08:03 drojf pre-kohacon hackfest in berlin? we only got 2 days in greece :P
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08:09 magnuse pizza is
08:09 drojf heh
08:17 magnuse og hei petter
08:22 petter hei magnus!
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09:37 LibraryClaire Good morning :)
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10:03 * cait waves
10:03 LibraryClaire hi cait
10:03 cait hi LibraryClaire :)
10:22 cait Joubu++
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10:28 Joubu ashimema:[…]ry-carpentry-0?bw
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10:55 ashimema interesting read
10:59 mveron Lunchtime
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12:28 mveron Hi again #koha
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12:55 oleonard Hi #koha
12:59 cait hi oleonard :)
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13:33 oleonard Hello waking-up people.
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16:25 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:25 mtompset I was wondering if someone might quickly be able to tell me if OAI is supposed to be filtered at all. :)
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16:37 cait i'd say so
16:37 cait maybe it could be an option not to filter it, but i'd filter it by default
16:37 cait a swtich like for including items - in the enh oai configuration
16:38 cait mtompset: ^
16:45 mtompset cait: Sorry... stepped away from the keyboard. :)
16:58 reiveune bye
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17:53 * magnuse waves
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18:02 bag magnuse HI
18:04 cait hey bag :)
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18:08 drojf hi #koha
18:09 cait hi drojf
18:09 drojf hi cait
18:09 mtompset Greetings, magnuse wizzyrea drojf
18:10 drojf hi mtompset
18:10 magnuse bag: HI
18:10 drojf i got a catmandu usb stick with a vm as a present :)
18:11 magnuse yay!
18:11 magnuse i have 3 or 4 in my desk drawer :-)
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18:14 mtompset magnuse: What is catmandu, and I'll take one as a Christmas present. :P
18:18 Dyrcona mtompset: I believe catmandu is this:
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18:18 Dyrcona I could be wrong, but it makes the most sense given the clues in the conversation so far.
18:19 mtompset Dyrcona: I agree.
18:21 cait drojf:  i got one of the sticks too - but probably an old version by now :)
18:22 drojf mine may be old too ;)
18:22 drojf he wasn't really sure
18:22 cait but they got the nice cat picture on them...
18:23 drojf indeed!
18:23 Dyrcona Sounds like some kind of underworld initiation or black market dealings. :)
18:23 Dyrcona Y'know what-I-mean? Nudge. Nudge. Wink Wink. ;)
18:25 eythian The cat picture on mine wore off 😢
18:26 drojf eythian: we spoke about you, i'm sure you could get a new one ;)
18:30 eythian Heh. Well hope to be at kohacon.
18:30 eythian Why does this tram smell like weed
18:32 eythian <-- haha
18:37 drojf eythian: i though everything in amsterdam smeels like weed
18:37 drojf smells even
18:37 pianohacker hey, since catmandu got brought up; I know there are some that would prefer catmandu to the macro language I dreamed up, but is there a JS catmandu implementation?
18:37 eythian That's pretty much correct in the part I was tramming through
18:38 eythian pianohacker: no, Catmandu is a Perl tool.
18:38 pianohacker yeah, that was my understanding... not sure if I should make a js-catmandu-lite
18:39 drojf why?
18:39 pianohacker why what?
18:40 eythian Just write a Perl to JavaScript compiler
18:41 eythian That can handle eval because it needs to.
18:41 pianohacker that's neovim's kind of crazy, not ours :)
18:42 ashimema I is confused..
18:43 * drojf heads home
18:43 ashimema why would you need to write a perl to javascript compiler..
18:43 ashimema would you actually be executing macro's clientside?
18:43 mtompset can we avoid javascript?
18:43 ashimema i.e. I thought you just write macros in 'fix' -[…]wiki/Fix-language
18:43 mtompset Evil, evil javascript. :P
18:44 ashimema suppose it kinda depdns on what the macro's use case is.
18:44 eythian Not if you want it to work in a browser
18:44 mtompset eythian: How's the new job?
18:44 ashimema well yeah.. that's what I was asking if the macro's are meant to run clientside.. i.e. in the browser..
18:45 ashimema or serverside.. in which case you'd just use catmandu to process them ;)
18:45 eythian mtompset: it's no Koha 😉
18:45 pianohacker ashimema: yes they are meant to run clientside :) and that's why I'm asking about js catmandu
18:45 ashimema hi eythian.. very strange to have you in our timezone.. nice though
18:45 pianohacker server side is possible but kinda annoying to implement
18:46 ashimema whose wants them to be in catmandu lang then?
18:46 pianohacker I think you :)
18:46 ashimema I can understand that..
18:46 ashimema lol..
18:46 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "Any ideas on how to write a good test for this?" (17 lines) at
18:46 pianohacker mtompset: nooooo don't take my JS away
18:47 ashimema I only suggested it thinking you were about to embark on writing a macro language ;)
18:47 mtompset How am I taking it away?
18:47 ashimema at the time I didn't know you were already 90% done ;)
18:47 pianohacker oh, heh, yeah
18:48 mtompset our transform to xml function busts when you hide/delete the last subfield.
18:48 ashimema ooh.. I wan't a catmandu usb stick now..
18:48 * ashimema has been reading up
18:49 ashimema pianohacker.. what I really would like is a macro langauge that can be used both serverside and clientside..
18:50 ashimema then to use it for both your advanced editor and as a replacement for the bulk edit forms we currrently have..
18:50 ashimema but it's been ages since i've dleved into any of that.. it's likely moved allot since I last looked
18:51 * ashimema should go cook tea now
18:51 eythian So, you can write your own plugins for Catmandu
18:52 pianohacker including one to cross-compile to JS? ;)
18:52 eythian Just design one that processes the same language as you're using in JavaScript.
18:52 pianohacker oh.
18:52 pianohacker that's a clever idea
18:52 ashimema :)
18:52 eythian Not just a pretty face
18:52 ashimema or you 'could' just run up a serverside js stack.. node, v8 ;)
18:53 ashimema and bower up your macro processor ;)
18:53 ashimema in some ways i prefer that option.. means your only maintaining one macro processing module.. not a perl one and a js one ;)
18:54 mtompset easy maintenance is good!
18:54 ashimema mmm.. though it does add a layer to the server.. needing to run node/v8 engine
18:54 pianohacker then we just start rewriting Koha as a node app
18:54 ashimema so it's half a dozen of one, 6 of the other ;)
18:55 ashimema mojo app, mojo app..
18:55 eythian Just port it all to Java and GWT so the same code works in all places.
18:55 pianohacker oh god
18:55 ashimema we have lots of perl coders.. so lets stick to perl ;)
18:56 ashimema lol
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18:56 ashimema talking Mojo.. I should probably go check in on swagger2..
18:57 ashimema I have an open pul request I havn't dealt with yet.. oops
19:00 mtompset What? No Dancer fans? ;)
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19:01 * ashimema goes to eat
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19:02 eddyinblu Hello there
19:03 eddyinblu Anybody wanna see an amazing list of big data visualization tools?
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19:04 eddyinblu Here:[…]he-20-best-tools/
19:04 eddyinblu Hope you like it
19:04 eddyinblu Lotsa work went into it
19:04 eddyinblu Like - a lot
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19:26 eythian ...
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19:37 kidclamp lunch, see you all soon
19:41 magnuse mtompset: i'm a dancer fan :-)
19:42 mtompset With everyone saying javascript, mojo, swagger, etc... I thought I'd throw that one out there. :)
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20:17 magnuse gaaahhhhh....
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21:06 eythian Hi kathryn, wizzyrea, rangi
21:06 rangi heya eythian
21:06 eythian And aleisha too ☺
21:07 aleisha hiya eythian!
21:07 wizzyrea Hi ^.^
21:07 wizzyrea have a creepy chicken
21:08 kathryn hallo eythian :)
21:08 oleonard Hi folks
21:09 rangi hi oleonard
21:11 wizzyrea hi oleonard
21:13 eythian Creepy chicken
21:15 wizzyrea the creepiest chicken is <reply>
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21:19 * cait1 waves
21:21 eythian[…]new-js-framework/
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21:27 pianohacker that's fantastic
21:29 francesca Today I am a reciptionist
21:29 cait1 new job?:)
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21:34 francescam Cait1 - not a new job,  I'm just filling in at my dad's work
21:34 cait1 :)
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22:10 wizzyrea I had eggnog candy
22:10 wizzyrea egg-nog candy is not as terrible as you might imagine.
22:16 eythian It doesn't have to be to still be terrible
22:16 * wizzyrea loves egg nog
22:16 wizzyrea though one time when I was a kid, I accidentally put it on my cereal for breakfast
22:16 wizzyrea that was not so nice.
22:28 cait1 @wunder Konstnaz
22:28 huginn` cait1: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
22:28 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
22:28 huginn` cait1: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 3.0°C (11:20 PM CET on December 15, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
22:41 wizzyrea @wunder wlg
22:41 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:41 wizzyrea 11! screw you, PoS southerly!
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22:44 ibeardslee mmm summer
22:45 wizzyrea This mixes my two favourite things, libraries and doctor who. :P
22:46 cait1 night all :)
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22:46 wizzyrea night cait
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23:50 dcook bag: I seem to recall you saying it was windy in Oregon?
23:50 dcook
23:50 dcook 200km/h winds :p
23:51 dcook Also notice the box that says "This thunderstorm is very dangerous"
23:51 dcook While it is serious, that box just makes me giggle..

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