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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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...and about 7cm of snow! |
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morning #koha |
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evening |
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cait |
hey rangi |
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LibraryClaire |
hello |
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waves again |
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cait |
hi LibraryClaire |
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ashimema |
Hello LibraryClaire :) |
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LibraryClaire |
Hi :) |
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ashimema |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.7°C (10:07 AM GMT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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ashimema |
wow.. bit late for you rangi |
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ashimema |
sleep well |
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cait |
sleep well |
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* mveron |
waves |
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cait |
quiet monday, everyone still asleep? :) |
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mveron |
Question: Can I somehow change the order of batches in a bug on BZ? Use case: 3 patches, first one does not apply, I amend and upload it. Do I have the other patches again to get the right order? |
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mveron |
Or chan I change sowhow their positions? |
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mveron |
can |
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mveron |
Cait is awake :-) |
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cait |
i think you have to reattach |
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cait |
all of them |
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mveron |
Ok, thanks cait |
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is glad that cait can read sentences where a couple of words are missing... |
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cait |
heh :) |
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cait |
and you can read although my strange line breaks |
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cait |
... and weird english :) |
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cait |
h wilfrid |
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ashimema |
shame you can't reorder patches on bugzilla.. cait's right as far as I know |
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mveron |
Thanks cait and ashimema :-) |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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ashimema |
Joubu++ # For looking into performance gains in a few bugs :) |
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Joubu |
ashimema: hum unfortunately, I have not found something significant |
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Joubu |
bug 15344 is worth the try |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , GetMemberDetails called unecessary |
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mveron |
Is http://translate.koha-community.org/ down? I get a timeout. |
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drojf |
mveron: try again in a few minutes? happens from time to time |
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ashimema |
hmm.. |
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mveron |
thanks drojf :-) |
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ashimema |
I wonder about the importance of backportabilty? |
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ashimema |
what do people think regarding that.. |
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ashimema: of what? |
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Joubu |
exactly :) same question |
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ashimema |
what is our actual policy on backporting to prior versions of koha anyways.. I always thought it was 'security only' in maintenance releases. |
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ashimema |
well.. you've kept bug 15344 'light' to make it easier to backport. |
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ashimema |
I wonder whether it in fact should be backported at all? |
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ashimema |
you've being Joubu.. |
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ashimema |
that's not a complaint btw.. just more of a question.. I wonder |
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ashimema |
I've never really considered backportability in my patches |
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drojf |
not read the bug but it sounds more like a fix than a feature from the title, so it's more likely to be backported. i guess |
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ashimema: I was just thinking about an eventuality |
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ashimema |
it's a performance boost drojf |
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Joubu |
if it was an awesome patch and it will make us gain xxx ms / page loaded |
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drojf |
but in general, i dont see a need to consider backportability in general. not a must at least |
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ashimema |
so not a bugfix per say.. but a performance improvement. |
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drojf |
but if possible, nice to have |
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is part of the 'continuous integration', as few 'maintanence releases' as possible, camp |
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drojf |
in that case it would make sense to have it in older versions, i'd say. so if its an option to keep it easily backportable… nice to consider it, Joubu |
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ashimema |
mmm.. fair enough |
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especially because 3.22 is just out :) |
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ashimema |
New question then.. |
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ashimema |
you highlight that it 'could be done better' if you weren't concentrating a little on making it backportable.. |
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ashimema |
would you consider taking the 'do it better' as a secondary bug on top which was meant for 3.22 only.. |
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ashimema |
thus getting the full win for the future? |
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ashimema: I was just saying that there is a lot to do in this area, you could imagine to refactore some part, improve the fetch of patron infos, etc. |
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ashimema |
indeed. |
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Joubu |
but I have preferred to only replace the call to A with a call to B |
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Joubu |
for 1/ Readability and 2/ try not to introduce regressions |
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ashimema |
fair enough |
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ashimema |
all makes sense |
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Joubu |
(3/ I am lazy) |
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ashimema |
I wouldn't say your lazy.. |
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ashimema |
and incremental is good :) |
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cait |
in general bugs are backported if possible |
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cait |
arg... scrollback broken sec |
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cait |
ok, now i read it all :) |
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mveron |
Lunchtime... |
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cait |
... lunch :) |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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morning tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi cait :-D |
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Hi #koha |
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Hi oleonard |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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cait |
kidclamp: wnickc? |
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kidclamp |
that's me! |
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cait |
oh! |
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kidclamp |
pianohacker encouraged more interesting names |
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cait |
but...why? |
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cait |
what does yours meanß |
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cait |
? |
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kidclamp |
it's somehow derived from my last name, clemens |
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kidclamp |
a roommate came up with it |
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* oleonard |
sticks with uninteresting |
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cait |
:) |
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hello |
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LibraryClaire |
hi cybermon (and others I missed!) |
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cybermon |
Thanks Claire |
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cybermon |
I have one question. about zebra indexing |
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cybermon |
any one help or advice for me |
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cait |
cybermon: just ask, if someone knows, they will wake up :) |
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kidclamp |
what's the question cybermon? |
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cybermon |
i just upgraded to koha 3.22.00. but my cyrillic biblio not indexing. only english is working |
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cybermon |
I need some advice for zebra indexing with Mongolian language. English is works in my server |
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cybermon |
Cait, Kidclamp both thanks messages |
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kidclamp |
np cybermon, unfortunately I am not a zebra expert, esp as regards multi language setup. |
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cybermon |
no problem kidclamp ! I hope that someone know it |
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kidclamp |
if no oneh here does, try the mailing lists |
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kidclamp |
lists? |
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kidclamp |
mailing list? |
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kidclamp |
listserv? |
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kidclamp |
ah, no wahanui |
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kidclamp |
https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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geek_cl |
cybermon, do you check the ZEBRA_LANGUAGE= |
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geek_cl |
:) |
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cybermon |
not check !, where is it |
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cybermon |
geek_cl |
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geek_cl |
cybermon, Possible values are: ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' | 'es' | 'fr' | 'nb' | 'ru' | 'uk' |
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geek_cl |
is one of yours? |
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cybermon |
ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' |
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geek_cl |
there you go |
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cybermon |
how can i multi-language like as 'en' | 'ru' |
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geek_cl |
maybe if you develop that multi-language function ;) |
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geek_cl |
by the moment, just one language is allowed |
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cybermon |
only for 3.22 |
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cybermon |
what about 3.18.xxx |
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cybermon |
I should develop but I need some experts help :-) |
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geek_cl |
i don't know, you need to review the 3.18.xxx and see if that functionality is there waiting for you. |
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geek_cl |
also,IMO i don't know if a expert will configure the index in two languages... |
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cybermon |
Hm |
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cybermon |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records |
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cybermon |
I need some thing like as this link guide :-) |
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geek_cl |
cybermon, cool docs and wiki uh? |
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geek_cl |
keep reading my friend ;=) |
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cait |
cybermon: i think that configuration is about things like non-sorting words and sorting |
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cait |
you could write your own for a multilang setup maybe |
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cait |
if you need koha to work with multiple languages and scripts, the more important thing is that you use ICU indexing |
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cybermon |
I see. how should I change ICU indexing in Ubuntu |
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cait |
i think there is a page for that on the wiki too |
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cait |
the wiki link you pasted above is about activating ICU actually |
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cybermon |
okay. let me try follow guide |
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kidclamp |
hey koha, is there a way to allow for multiple message types in notice status triggers? Currently print overrides email I know, but I don't know about other combinations. |
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kidclamp |
just wondering if those shold be radio buttons instead of checkboxxes? |
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oleonard |
I doubt it's a simple as changing the inputs kidclamp |
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Joubu |
you can receive several notices |
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Joubu |
for the adv notices for instance, you can generate print and/or email and/or sms |
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Joubu |
print is sent if the patron does not have email address or sms number |
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Joubu |
and if no other notice has been sent |
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kidclamp |
oleonard - i agree, but one can hope :) |
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Joubu |
so let's say you tick email + sms and the patron does not have an email but the sms notice is generated, the print won't be |
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kidclamp |
Joubu okay, but if you check email/print/sms only print is generated, correct? |
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Joubu |
no, the 3 are generated |
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kidclamp |
for an overdue? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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kidclamp |
hmm..nengard? |
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Joubu |
for notice in advanced and overdues |
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Joubu |
print is the fallback if no notice has been generated |
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kidclamp |
was that recent Joubu? I thought they conflicted, at least in 3.18 |
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kidclamp |
happy to be wrong :-) |
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Joubu |
I'd say it works like that since you can check several transport types |
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nengard |
what's up? |
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kidclamp |
overdue notice status triggers |
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kidclamp |
can you check print/email/sms? opr does print override? |
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nengard |
Joubu I don't think we've seen all three get generated - only print |
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nengard |
it might have been a bug that has since been fixed though |
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nengard |
I'm not sure |
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Joubu |
that's not the expected behavior |
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nengard |
I know because we told our partners not to check print because that was all that was being generated |
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nengard |
we should have someone test on master |
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nengard |
like i said it might have been an old bug and that's just the way i've been training to compensate |
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Joubu |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_transport_types |
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Joubu |
if the wiki is not wrong, that's how it's supposed to work (:D) |
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kidclamp |
thanks Joubu nengard |
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kidclamp |
I will try to test and file if behavior differs from wiki |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: feel free to assign it to me if it exists on master |
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kidclamp |
Joubu++ |
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oleonard |
http://www.oclc.org/developer/[…]-services.en.html |
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mveron |
Bug 14015 was a nasty little time consuming thing... |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given |
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xarragon |
Is there a way to to delete a patch on bugzilla? |
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drojf |
xarragon: you can obsolete it. in details>edit |
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tcohen |
jajm: I'm working on your jenkins tasks |
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xarragon |
drojf: Ah, ok. Thanks |
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jajm |
tcohen, need any help ? |
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tcohen |
not yet .-D |
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tcohen |
just let me know if there's any special need for your maintenance branch regarding jenkins tasks |
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ashimema |
ooh.. they've announced the xid changes now |
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* ashimema |
got told by oclc about this around a week ago and got told they didn't wan't anyone to know. |
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ashimema |
just after I'd spent a load of time implementing a use of it :( |
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tcohen |
@later tell gmcharlt not urgent, but we could update the master packages |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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xarragon |
drojf: That 'Edit' link was not easy to find. The Wiki actually helped me. |
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Kchris |
I am trying to apply a patch (14945) that requires running updatedatabase.pl, but I don't see any output from "perl installer/.../updatabase.pl. And I don't see any evidence that the database has been updated. Any thoughts? |
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Kchris |
possibly related: running the webinstaller gives an error message that updatedatabase.pl "can't locate C4/dates.pm" |
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kidclamp |
you were right for master Joubu, all messages are queued/sent - but in 3.18 they all go into the print message sent to administrator |
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reiveune |
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kidclamp |
Kchris can you do: ls installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate |
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kidclamp |
that should show you if the file is there correctly |
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Kchris |
kidclamp, bug_14945.sql is there, which i think is what I need for the update. that, and a "README" file. that's it. |
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kidclamp |
that C4/dates still seems odd. If you are gitified and pulled to master it should not be looking for it |
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kidclamp |
afaik anyhow |
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Kchris |
ok, thanks kidclamp. |
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bye |
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@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.9°C (2:45 PM ART on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder 45701 |
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oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT, Athens, Ohio is 15.0°C (12:00 PM EST on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.52 in 1000 hPa (Rising). |
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oleonard: on bug 14552, did the page actually print? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Warns when printing a list from OPAC |
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I didn't file the bug and haven't tested it barton |
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Testing now in the staff client I don't see that error in the log. I do see a lot of "CGI::param called in list context from package main line XXX, this can lead to vulnerabilities" |
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oleonard, yeah, that's a warning that's generated by the version of CGI.pm in debian jesse. |
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oleonard |
Annoying noise. |
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... I couldn't replicate the warnings in 14552 in the OPAC, but it's not printing the page. You win some, you lose some. :-/ |
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kidclamp |
going to lunch |
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eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (6:59 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (6:50 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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still 5° |
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"performed an eager cursor slurp underneath?" You don't say. |
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is there some extra step besides changing casAuthentication / casServerUrl that has to be done to get the CAS login option to show up? I'm at a loss |
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no idea |
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rangi |
but did you eyeball the .tt file to see what the if condition is? |
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it seems to be coming from casAuthentication, which is filled in without (afaict) any modification from the syspref. Have restarted memcached |
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pianohacker |
(working on staff side btw |
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hmm unlikely to be memcached then i would have thought, more likely the if in the opac is either wrong, or the variable is not being as a template param |
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oh, *sigh*. No staff-side CAS on 3.18.08 |
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(without looking at the code .. so i might be wild goose chasing you) |
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ah there you go :) yeah that was 3.20 or maybe 3.22 |
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pianohacker |
thank goodness for rubber-ducking in #koha or I'd never get anything done. gracias rangi |
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:) |
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hi #koha :) |
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Hi cait |
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hi eythian |
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