IRC log for #koha, 2015-12-14

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04:36 ccordova hi , I have a problem when I think the error is an authority
04:37 ccordova Can't call method "subfields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/auth​orities/ line 88.
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06:44 * magnuse waves
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07:45 reiveune hello
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07:53 alex_a bonjour
08:00 Joubu hi #koha
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08:10 jajm hi
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08:24 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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08:30 gaetan_B hello
08:45 magnuse @wunder boo
08:45 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:45 magnuse ...and about 7cm of snow!
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09:16 drojf morning #koha
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09:36 rangi evening
09:36 cait hey rangi
09:40 LibraryClaire hello
09:41 * magnuse waves again
09:42 cait hi LibraryClaire
10:04 ashimema Hello LibraryClaire :)
10:05 LibraryClaire Hi :)
10:07 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
10:07 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.7°C (10:07 AM GMT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
10:08 * rangi goes to sleep
10:08 ashimema wow.. bit late for you rangi
10:08 ashimema sleep well
10:08 cait sleep well
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10:15 * mveron waves
10:17 cait quiet monday, everyone still asleep? :)
10:17 * Francesca waves sleepily
10:17 mveron Question: Can I somehow change the order of batches in a bug on BZ? Use case: 3 patches, first one does not apply, I amend and upload it. Do I have the other patches again to get the right order?
10:17 mveron Or chan I change sowhow their positions?
10:18 mveron can
10:18 mveron Cait is awake :-)
10:19 cait i think you have to reattach
10:19 cait all of them
10:19 mveron Ok, thanks cait
10:20 * mveron is glad that cait can read sentences where a couple of words are missing...
10:21 cait heh :)
10:22 cait and you can read although my strange line breaks
10:22 cait ... and weird english :)
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10:23 cait h wilfrid
10:26 ashimema shame you can't reorder patches on bugzilla.. cait's right as far as I know
10:29 mveron Thanks cait and ashimema :-)
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10:32 cait Joubu++
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10:38 ashimema Joubu++ # For looking into performance gains in a few bugs :)
10:39 Joubu ashimema: hum unfortunately, I have not found something significant
10:39 Joubu bug 15344 is worth the try
10:39 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , GetMemberDetails called unecessary
10:42 mveron Is down? I get a timeout.
10:43 drojf mveron: try again in a few minutes? happens from time to time
10:43 ashimema hmm..
10:43 mveron thanks drojf :-)
10:43 ashimema I wonder about the importance of backportabilty?
10:43 ashimema what do people think regarding that..
10:43 drojf ashimema: of what?
10:44 Joubu exactly :) same question
10:44 ashimema what is our actual policy on backporting to prior versions of koha anyways.. I always thought it was 'security only' in maintenance releases.
10:44 ashimema well.. you've kept bug 15344 'light' to make it easier to backport.
10:45 ashimema I wonder whether it in fact should be backported at all?
10:45 ashimema you've being Joubu..
10:45 ashimema that's not a complaint btw.. just more of a question.. I wonder
10:45 ashimema I've never really considered backportability in my patches
10:45 drojf not read the bug but it sounds more like a fix than a feature from the title, so it's more likely to be backported. i guess
10:46 Joubu ashimema: I was just thinking about an eventuality
10:46 ashimema it's a performance boost drojf
10:46 Joubu if it was an awesome patch and it will make us gain xxx ms / page loaded
10:46 drojf but in general, i dont see a need to consider backportability in general. not a must at least
10:46 ashimema so not a bugfix per say.. but a performance improvement.
10:46 drojf but if possible, nice to have
10:47 * ashimema is part of the 'continuous integration', as few 'maintanence releases' as possible, camp
10:47 drojf in that case it would make sense to have it in older versions, i'd say. so if its an option to keep it easily backportable… nice to consider it, Joubu
10:47 ashimema mmm.. fair enough
10:48 Joubu especially because 3.22 is just out :)
10:48 ashimema New question then..
10:48 ashimema you highlight that it 'could be done better' if you weren't concentrating a little on making it backportable..
10:49 ashimema would you consider taking the 'do it better' as a secondary bug on top which was meant for 3.22 only..
10:49 ashimema thus getting the full win for the future?
10:50 Joubu ashimema: I was just saying that there is a lot to do in this area, you could imagine to refactore some part, improve the fetch of patron infos, etc.
10:50 ashimema indeed.
10:50 Joubu but I have preferred to only replace the call to A with a call to B
10:51 Joubu for 1/ Readability and 2/ try not to introduce regressions
10:51 ashimema fair enough
10:51 ashimema all makes sense
10:51 Joubu (3/ I am lazy)
10:54 ashimema I wouldn't say your lazy..
10:54 ashimema and incremental is good :)
10:58 cait in general bugs are backported if possible
10:58 cait arg... scrollback broken sec
10:59 cait ok, now i read it all :)
11:02 mveron Lunchtime...
11:18 cait ... lunch :)
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12:45 tcohen morning!
12:45 cait morning tcohen :)
12:46 tcohen hi cait :-D
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12:59 oleonard Hi #koha
13:00 kidclamp Hi oleonard
13:02 cait hi oleonard
13:02 cait kidclamp: wnickc?
13:02 kidclamp that's me!
13:02 cait oh!
13:03 kidclamp pianohacker encouraged more interesting names
13:03 cait but...why?
13:03 cait what does yours meanß
13:03 cait ?
13:03 kidclamp it's somehow derived from my last name, clemens
13:03 kidclamp a roommate came up with it
13:04 * oleonard sticks with uninteresting
13:04 cait :)
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13:09 cybermon hello
13:10 LibraryClaire hi cybermon (and others I missed!)
13:10 cybermon Thanks Claire
13:10 cybermon I have one question. about zebra indexing
13:11 cybermon any one help or advice for me
13:12 cait cybermon: just ask, if someone knows, they will wake up :)
13:12 kidclamp what's the question cybermon?
13:13 cybermon i just upgraded to koha 3.22.00. but my cyrillic biblio not indexing. only english is working
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13:14 cybermon I need some advice for zebra indexing with Mongolian language. English is works in my server
13:15 cybermon Cait, Kidclamp both thanks messages
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13:18 kidclamp np cybermon, unfortunately I am not a zebra expert, esp as regards multi language setup.
13:19 cybermon no problem kidclamp ! I hope that someone know it
13:20 kidclamp if no oneh here does, try the mailing lists
13:20 kidclamp lists?
13:20 kidclamp mailing list?
13:20 kidclamp listserv?
13:20 kidclamp ah, no wahanui
13:20 kidclamp[…]ha-mailing-lists/
13:21 geek_cl cybermon,  do you check the ZEBRA_LANGUAGE=
13:21 geek_cl :)
13:21 cybermon not check !, where is it
13:21 cybermon geek_cl
13:24 geek_cl cybermon, Possible values are: ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' | 'es' | 'fr' | 'nb' | 'ru' | 'uk'
13:24 geek_cl is one of yours?
13:24 cybermon ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en'
13:24 geek_cl there you go
13:25 cybermon how can i multi-language like as 'en' | 'ru'
13:25 geek_cl maybe if you develop that multi-language function ;)
13:25 geek_cl by the moment, just one language is allowed
13:26 cybermon only for 3.22
13:26 cybermon what about
13:26 cybermon I should develop but I need some experts help :-)
13:27 geek_cl i don't know, you need to review the and see if that functionality is there waiting for you.
13:28 geek_cl also,IMO  i don't know if a expert will configure the index in two languages...
13:29 cybermon Hm
13:30 cybermon[…]of_Arabic_records
13:30 cybermon I need some thing like as this link guide :-)
13:30 geek_cl cybermon, cool docs and wiki uh?
13:31 geek_cl keep reading my friend ;=)
13:31 cait cybermon: i think that configuration is about things like non-sorting words and sorting
13:31 cait you could write your own for a multilang setup maybe
13:31 cait if you need koha to work with multiple languages and scripts, the more important thing is that you use ICU indexing
13:32 cybermon I see. how should I change ICU indexing in Ubuntu
13:32 cait i think there is a page for that on the wiki too
13:33 cait the wiki link you pasted above is about activating ICU actually
13:41 cybermon okay. let me try follow guide
13:47 kidclamp hey koha, is there a way to allow for multiple message types in notice status triggers?  Currently print overrides email I know, but I don't know about other combinations.
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13:47 kidclamp just wondering if those shold be radio buttons instead of checkboxxes?
13:49 oleonard I doubt it's a simple as changing the inputs kidclamp
13:50 Joubu you can receive several notices
13:50 Joubu for the adv notices for instance, you can generate print and/or email and/or sms
13:51 Joubu print is sent if the patron does not have email address or sms number
13:51 Joubu and if no other notice has been sent
13:51 kidclamp oleonard - i agree, but one can hope :)
13:52 Joubu so let's say you tick email + sms and the patron does not have an email but the sms notice is generated, the print won't be
13:52 kidclamp Joubu okay, but if you check email/print/sms only print is generated, correct?
13:52 Joubu no, the 3 are generated
13:53 kidclamp for an overdue?
13:53 Joubu yes
13:53 kidclamp hmm..nengard?
13:53 Joubu for notice in advanced and overdues
13:53 Joubu print is the fallback if no notice has been generated
13:54 kidclamp was that recent Joubu? I thought they conflicted, at least in 3.18
13:54 kidclamp happy to be wrong :-)
13:54 Joubu I'd say it works like that since you can check several transport types
13:54 nengard what's up?
13:55 kidclamp overdue notice status triggers
13:55 kidclamp can you check print/email/sms?  opr does print override?
13:55 nengard Joubu I don't think we've seen all three get generated - only print
13:55 nengard it might have been a bug that has since been fixed though
13:55 nengard I'm not sure
13:56 Joubu that's not the expected behavior
13:56 nengard I know because we told our partners not to check print because that was all that was being generated
13:56 nengard we should have someone test on master
13:56 nengard like i said it might have been an old bug and that's just the way i've been training to compensate
13:57 Joubu[…]e_transport_types
13:57 Joubu if the wiki is not wrong, that's how it's supposed to work (:D)
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13:58 kidclamp thanks Joubu nengard
13:58 kidclamp I will try to test and file if behavior differs from wiki
13:59 Joubu kidclamp: feel free to assign it to me if it exists on master
13:59 kidclamp Joubu++
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14:52 oleonard[…]-services.en.html
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15:02 mveron Bug 14015 was a nasty little time consuming thing...
15:02 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given
15:05 xarragon Is there a way to to delete a patch on bugzilla?
15:09 drojf xarragon: you can obsolete it. in details>edit
15:09 tcohen jajm: I'm working on your jenkins tasks
15:09 xarragon drojf: Ah, ok. Thanks
15:11 jajm tcohen, need any help ?
15:11 tcohen not yet .-D
15:11 tcohen just let me know if there's any special need for your maintenance branch regarding jenkins tasks
15:13 ashimema ooh.. they've announced the xid changes now
15:14 * ashimema got told by oclc about this around a week ago and got told they didn't wan't anyone to know.
15:14 ashimema just after I'd spent a load of time implementing a use of it :(
15:20 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt not urgent, but we could update the master packages
15:20 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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15:45 xarragon drojf: That 'Edit' link was not easy to find. The Wiki actually helped me.
15:54 Kchris I am trying to apply a patch (14945) that requires running, but I don't see any output from "perl installer/.../ And I don't see any evidence that the database has been updated. Any thoughts?
15:57 Kchris possibly related: running the webinstaller gives an error message that "can't locate C4/"
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16:12 kidclamp you were right for master Joubu, all messages are queued/sent - but in 3.18 they all go into the print message sent to administrator
16:15 reiveune bye
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16:17 kidclamp Kchris can you do: ls installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate
16:17 kidclamp that should show you if the file is there correctly
16:22 Kchris kidclamp, bug_14945.sql is there, which i think is what I need for the update. that, and a "README" file. that's it.
16:23 kidclamp that C4/dates still seems odd.  If you are gitified and pulled  to master it should not be looking for it
16:24 kidclamp afaik anyhow
16:30 Kchris ok, thanks kidclamp.
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17:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:47 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.9°C (2:45 PM ART on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
17:49 oleonard @wunder 45701
17:50 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT, Athens, Ohio is 15.0°C (12:00 PM EST on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.52 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
17:53 barton oleonard: on bug 14552, did the page actually print?
17:53 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Warns when printing a list from OPAC
17:54 oleonard I didn't file the bug and haven't tested it barton
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17:59 oleonard Testing now in the staff client I don't see that error in the log. I do see a lot of "CGI::param called in list context from package main line XXX, this can lead to vulnerabilities"
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18:00 barton oleonard, yeah, that's a warning that's generated by the version of in debian jesse.
18:01 oleonard Annoying noise.
18:02 barton ... I couldn't replicate the warnings in 14552 in the OPAC, but it's not printing the page. You win some, you lose some. :-/
18:06 kidclamp going to lunch
18:07 eythian @wunder Amsterdam, Netherlands
18:07 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (6:59 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
18:08 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
18:09 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (6:50 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:09 drojf still 5°
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18:57 oleonard "performed an eager cursor slurp underneath?" You don't say.
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20:01 pianohacker is there some extra step besides changing casAuthentication / casServerUrl that has to be done to get the CAS login option to show up? I'm at a loss
20:08 rangi no idea
20:08 rangi but did you eyeball the .tt file to see what the if condition is?
20:09 pianohacker it seems to be coming from casAuthentication, which is filled in without (afaict) any modification from the syspref. Have restarted memcached
20:09 pianohacker (working on staff side btw
20:10 rangi hmm unlikely to be memcached then i would have thought, more likely the if in the opac is either wrong, or the variable is not being as a template param
20:10 pianohacker oh, *sigh*. No staff-side CAS on 3.18.08
20:10 rangi (without looking at the code .. so i might be wild goose chasing you)
20:11 rangi ah there you go :) yeah that was 3.20 or maybe 3.22
20:11 pianohacker thank goodness for rubber-ducking in #koha or I'd never get anything done. gracias rangi
20:12 rangi :)
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21:45 cait hi #koha :)
21:58 eythian Hi cait
21:59 cait hi eythian
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