Time Nick Message 04:36 ccordova hi , I have a problem when I think the error is an authority 04:37 ccordova Can't call method "subfields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 88. 06:44 * magnuse waves 07:45 reiveune hello 07:53 alex_a bonjour 08:00 Joubu hi #koha 08:10 jajm hi 08:24 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 08:30 gaetan_B hello 08:45 magnuse @wunder boo 08:45 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 08:45 magnuse ...and about 7cm of snow! 09:16 drojf morning #koha 09:36 rangi evening 09:36 cait hey rangi 09:40 LibraryClaire hello 09:41 * magnuse waves again 09:42 cait hi LibraryClaire 10:04 ashimema Hello LibraryClaire :) 10:05 LibraryClaire Hi :) 10:07 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 10:07 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.7°C (10:07 AM GMT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 10:08 * rangi goes to sleep 10:08 ashimema wow.. bit late for you rangi 10:08 ashimema sleep well 10:08 cait sleep well 10:15 * mveron waves 10:17 cait quiet monday, everyone still asleep? :) 10:17 * Francesca waves sleepily 10:17 mveron Question: Can I somehow change the order of batches in a bug on BZ? Use case: 3 patches, first one does not apply, I amend and upload it. Do I have the other patches again to get the right order? 10:17 mveron Or chan I change sowhow their positions? 10:18 mveron can 10:18 mveron Cait is awake :-) 10:19 cait i think you have to reattach 10:19 cait all of them 10:19 mveron Ok, thanks cait 10:20 * mveron is glad that cait can read sentences where a couple of words are missing... 10:21 cait heh :) 10:22 cait and you can read although my strange line breaks 10:22 cait ... and weird english :) 10:23 cait h wilfrid 10:26 ashimema shame you can't reorder patches on bugzilla.. cait's right as far as I know 10:29 mveron Thanks cait and ashimema :-) 10:32 cait Joubu++ 10:38 ashimema Joubu++ # For looking into performance gains in a few bugs :) 10:39 Joubu ashimema: hum unfortunately, I have not found something significant 10:39 Joubu bug 15344 is worth the try 10:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15344 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , GetMemberDetails called unecessary 10:42 mveron Is http://translate.koha-community.org/ down? I get a timeout. 10:43 drojf mveron: try again in a few minutes? happens from time to time 10:43 ashimema hmm.. 10:43 mveron thanks drojf :-) 10:43 ashimema I wonder about the importance of backportabilty? 10:43 ashimema what do people think regarding that.. 10:43 drojf ashimema: of what? 10:44 Joubu exactly :) same question 10:44 ashimema what is our actual policy on backporting to prior versions of koha anyways.. I always thought it was 'security only' in maintenance releases. 10:44 ashimema well.. you've kept bug 15344 'light' to make it easier to backport. 10:45 ashimema I wonder whether it in fact should be backported at all? 10:45 ashimema you've being Joubu.. 10:45 ashimema that's not a complaint btw.. just more of a question.. I wonder 10:45 ashimema I've never really considered backportability in my patches 10:45 drojf not read the bug but it sounds more like a fix than a feature from the title, so it's more likely to be backported. i guess 10:46 Joubu ashimema: I was just thinking about an eventuality 10:46 ashimema it's a performance boost drojf 10:46 Joubu if it was an awesome patch and it will make us gain xxx ms / page loaded 10:46 drojf but in general, i dont see a need to consider backportability in general. not a must at least 10:46 ashimema so not a bugfix per say.. but a performance improvement. 10:46 drojf but if possible, nice to have 10:47 * ashimema is part of the 'continuous integration', as few 'maintanence releases' as possible, camp 10:47 drojf in that case it would make sense to have it in older versions, i'd say. so if its an option to keep it easily backportable… nice to consider it, Joubu 10:47 ashimema mmm.. fair enough 10:48 Joubu especially because 3.22 is just out :) 10:48 ashimema New question then.. 10:48 ashimema you highlight that it 'could be done better' if you weren't concentrating a little on making it backportable.. 10:49 ashimema would you consider taking the 'do it better' as a secondary bug on top which was meant for 3.22 only.. 10:49 ashimema thus getting the full win for the future? 10:50 Joubu ashimema: I was just saying that there is a lot to do in this area, you could imagine to refactore some part, improve the fetch of patron infos, etc. 10:50 ashimema indeed. 10:50 Joubu but I have preferred to only replace the call to A with a call to B 10:51 Joubu for 1/ Readability and 2/ try not to introduce regressions 10:51 ashimema fair enough 10:51 ashimema all makes sense 10:51 Joubu (3/ I am lazy) 10:54 ashimema I wouldn't say your lazy.. 10:54 ashimema and incremental is good :) 10:58 cait in general bugs are backported if possible 10:58 cait arg... scrollback broken sec 10:59 cait ok, now i read it all :) 11:02 mveron Lunchtime... 11:18 cait ... lunch :) 12:45 tcohen morning! 12:45 cait morning tcohen :) 12:46 tcohen hi cait :-D 12:59 oleonard Hi #koha 13:00 kidclamp Hi oleonard 13:02 cait hi oleonard 13:02 cait kidclamp: wnickc? 13:02 kidclamp that's me! 13:02 cait oh! 13:03 kidclamp pianohacker encouraged more interesting names 13:03 cait but...why? 13:03 cait what does yours meanß 13:03 cait ? 13:03 kidclamp it's somehow derived from my last name, clemens 13:03 kidclamp a roommate came up with it 13:04 * oleonard sticks with uninteresting 13:04 cait :) 13:09 cybermon hello 13:10 LibraryClaire hi cybermon (and others I missed!) 13:10 cybermon Thanks Claire 13:10 cybermon I have one question. about zebra indexing 13:11 cybermon any one help or advice for me 13:12 cait cybermon: just ask, if someone knows, they will wake up :) 13:12 kidclamp what's the question cybermon? 13:13 cybermon i just upgraded to koha 3.22.00. but my cyrillic biblio not indexing. only english is working 13:14 cybermon I need some advice for zebra indexing with Mongolian language. English is works in my server 13:15 cybermon Cait, Kidclamp both thanks messages 13:18 kidclamp np cybermon, unfortunately I am not a zebra expert, esp as regards multi language setup. 13:19 cybermon no problem kidclamp ! I hope that someone know it 13:20 kidclamp if no oneh here does, try the mailing lists 13:20 kidclamp lists? 13:20 kidclamp mailing list? 13:20 kidclamp listserv? 13:20 kidclamp ah, no wahanui 13:20 kidclamp https://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 13:21 geek_cl cybermon, do you check the ZEBRA_LANGUAGE= 13:21 geek_cl :) 13:21 cybermon not check !, where is it 13:21 cybermon geek_cl 13:24 geek_cl cybermon, Possible values are: ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' | 'es' | 'fr' | 'nb' | 'ru' | 'uk' 13:24 geek_cl is one of yours? 13:24 cybermon ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' 13:24 geek_cl there you go 13:25 cybermon how can i multi-language like as 'en' | 'ru' 13:25 geek_cl maybe if you develop that multi-language function ;) 13:25 geek_cl by the moment, just one language is allowed 13:26 cybermon only for 3.22 13:26 cybermon what about 3.18.xxx 13:26 cybermon I should develop but I need some experts help :-) 13:27 geek_cl i don't know, you need to review the 3.18.xxx and see if that functionality is there waiting for you. 13:28 geek_cl also,IMO i don't know if a expert will configure the index in two languages... 13:29 cybermon Hm 13:30 cybermon http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records 13:30 cybermon I need some thing like as this link guide :-) 13:30 geek_cl cybermon, cool docs and wiki uh? 13:31 geek_cl keep reading my friend ;=) 13:31 cait cybermon: i think that configuration is about things like non-sorting words and sorting 13:31 cait you could write your own for a multilang setup maybe 13:31 cait if you need koha to work with multiple languages and scripts, the more important thing is that you use ICU indexing 13:32 cybermon I see. how should I change ICU indexing in Ubuntu 13:32 cait i think there is a page for that on the wiki too 13:33 cait the wiki link you pasted above is about activating ICU actually 13:41 cybermon okay. let me try follow guide 13:47 kidclamp hey koha, is there a way to allow for multiple message types in notice status triggers? Currently print overrides email I know, but I don't know about other combinations. 13:47 kidclamp just wondering if those shold be radio buttons instead of checkboxxes? 13:49 oleonard I doubt it's a simple as changing the inputs kidclamp 13:50 Joubu you can receive several notices 13:50 Joubu for the adv notices for instance, you can generate print and/or email and/or sms 13:51 Joubu print is sent if the patron does not have email address or sms number 13:51 Joubu and if no other notice has been sent 13:51 kidclamp oleonard - i agree, but one can hope :) 13:52 Joubu so let's say you tick email + sms and the patron does not have an email but the sms notice is generated, the print won't be 13:52 kidclamp Joubu okay, but if you check email/print/sms only print is generated, correct? 13:52 Joubu no, the 3 are generated 13:53 kidclamp for an overdue? 13:53 Joubu yes 13:53 kidclamp hmm..nengard? 13:53 Joubu for notice in advanced and overdues 13:53 Joubu print is the fallback if no notice has been generated 13:54 kidclamp was that recent Joubu? I thought they conflicted, at least in 3.18 13:54 kidclamp happy to be wrong :-) 13:54 Joubu I'd say it works like that since you can check several transport types 13:54 nengard what's up? 13:55 kidclamp overdue notice status triggers 13:55 kidclamp can you check print/email/sms? opr does print override? 13:55 nengard Joubu I don't think we've seen all three get generated - only print 13:55 nengard it might have been a bug that has since been fixed though 13:55 nengard I'm not sure 13:56 Joubu that's not the expected behavior 13:56 nengard I know because we told our partners not to check print because that was all that was being generated 13:56 nengard we should have someone test on master 13:56 nengard like i said it might have been an old bug and that's just the way i've been training to compensate 13:57 Joubu http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Message_transport_types 13:57 Joubu if the wiki is not wrong, that's how it's supposed to work (:D) 13:58 kidclamp thanks Joubu nengard 13:58 kidclamp I will try to test and file if behavior differs from wiki 13:59 Joubu kidclamp: feel free to assign it to me if it exists on master 13:59 kidclamp Joubu++ 14:52 oleonard http://www.oclc.org/developer/news/2015/change-to-xid-services.en.html 15:02 mveron Bug 14015 was a nasty little time consuming thing... 15:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given 15:05 xarragon Is there a way to to delete a patch on bugzilla? 15:09 drojf xarragon: you can obsolete it. in details>edit 15:09 tcohen jajm: I'm working on your jenkins tasks 15:09 xarragon drojf: Ah, ok. Thanks 15:11 jajm tcohen, need any help ? 15:11 tcohen not yet .-D 15:11 tcohen just let me know if there's any special need for your maintenance branch regarding jenkins tasks 15:13 ashimema ooh.. they've announced the xid changes now 15:14 * ashimema got told by oclc about this around a week ago and got told they didn't wan't anyone to know. 15:14 ashimema just after I'd spent a load of time implementing a use of it :( 15:20 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt not urgent, but we could update the master packages 15:20 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:45 xarragon drojf: That 'Edit' link was not easy to find. The Wiki actually helped me. 15:54 Kchris I am trying to apply a patch (14945) that requires running updatedatabase.pl, but I don't see any output from "perl installer/.../updatabase.pl. And I don't see any evidence that the database has been updated. Any thoughts? 15:57 Kchris possibly related: running the webinstaller gives an error message that updatedatabase.pl "can't locate C4/dates.pm" 16:12 kidclamp you were right for master Joubu, all messages are queued/sent - but in 3.18 they all go into the print message sent to administrator 16:15 reiveune bye 16:17 kidclamp Kchris can you do: ls installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate 16:17 kidclamp that should show you if the file is there correctly 16:22 Kchris kidclamp, bug_14945.sql is there, which i think is what I need for the update. that, and a "README" file. that's it. 16:23 kidclamp that C4/dates still seems odd. If you are gitified and pulled to master it should not be looking for it 16:24 kidclamp afaik anyhow 16:30 Kchris ok, thanks kidclamp. 16:52 LibraryClaire bye 17:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 17:47 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.9°C (2:45 PM ART on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 17:49 oleonard @wunder 45701 17:50 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT, Athens, Ohio is 15.0°C (12:00 PM EST on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.52 in 1000 hPa (Rising). 17:53 barton oleonard: on bug 14552, did the page actually print? 17:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Warns when printing a list from OPAC 17:54 oleonard I didn't file the bug and haven't tested it barton 17:59 oleonard Testing now in the staff client I don't see that error in the log. I do see a lot of "CGI::param called in list context from package main line XXX, this can lead to vulnerabilities" 18:00 barton oleonard, yeah, that's a warning that's generated by the version of CGI.pm in debian jesse. 18:01 oleonard Annoying noise. 18:02 barton ... I couldn't replicate the warnings in 14552 in the OPAC, but it's not printing the page. You win some, you lose some. :-/ 18:06 kidclamp going to lunch 18:07 eythian @wunder Amsterdam, Netherlands 18:07 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (6:59 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 18:08 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 18:09 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (6:50 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 18:09 drojf still 5° 18:57 oleonard "performed an eager cursor slurp underneath?" You don't say. 20:01 pianohacker is there some extra step besides changing casAuthentication / casServerUrl that has to be done to get the CAS login option to show up? I'm at a loss 20:08 rangi no idea 20:08 rangi but did you eyeball the .tt file to see what the if condition is? 20:09 pianohacker it seems to be coming from casAuthentication, which is filled in without (afaict) any modification from the syspref. Have restarted memcached 20:09 pianohacker (working on staff side btw 20:10 rangi hmm unlikely to be memcached then i would have thought, more likely the if in the opac is either wrong, or the variable is not being as a template param 20:10 pianohacker oh, *sigh*. No staff-side CAS on 3.18.08 20:10 rangi (without looking at the code .. so i might be wild goose chasing you) 20:11 rangi ah there you go :) yeah that was 3.20 or maybe 3.22 20:11 pianohacker thank goodness for rubber-ducking in #koha or I'd never get anything done. gracias rangi 20:12 rangi :) 21:45 cait hi #koha :) 21:58 eythian Hi cait 21:59 cait hi eythian 23:12 wizzyrea hi