Time  Nick          Message
05:29 BobB          is this the quietest working day in #koha ever?
05:29 BobB          over 6 hours since a post
07:11 petter        morning
07:20 ashimema      morning #koha
07:28 eythian       Hi
07:41 mveron        Good morning / daytime #koha
07:42 reiveune      hello
07:50 drojf         morning #koha
07:51 drojf         woohoo kohacon dates!
07:58 alex_a        bonjour
08:02 Joubu         hi
08:02 mveron        Good morning Joubu :-)
08:03 drojf         hi Joubu and mveron
08:03 mveron        ...and hi drojf !   :-)
08:03 drojf         pre-kohacon hackfest in berlin? we only got 2 days in greece :P
08:09 magnuse       pizza is http://xkcd.com/1616/
08:09 drojf         heh
08:17 magnuse       og hei petter
08:22 petter        hei magnus!
09:37 LibraryClaire Good morning :)
10:03 * cait        waves
10:03 LibraryClaire hi cait
10:03 cait          hi LibraryClaire :)
10:22 cait          Joubu++
10:28 Joubu         ashimema: http://software.ac.uk/blog/2015-12-03-why-information-profession-needs-library-carpentry-0?bw
10:55 ashimema      interesting read
10:59 mveron        Lunchtime
11:00 cait          lucnh time
12:19 cait          back
12:28 mveron        Hi again #koha
12:55 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:59 cait          hi oleonard :)
13:01 tcohen        morning
13:04 druthb        o/
13:33 oleonard      Hello waking-up people.
16:19 * Joubu       does not make noise and says good bye
16:25 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
16:25 mtompset      I was wondering if someone might quickly be able to tell me if OAI is supposed to be filtered at all. :)
16:37 cait          i'd say so
16:37 cait          maybe it could be an option not to filter it, but i'd filter it by default
16:37 cait          a swtich like for including items - in the enh oai configuration
16:38 cait          mtompset: ^
16:45 mtompset      cait: Sorry... stepped away from the keyboard. :)
16:58 reiveune      bye
17:53 * magnuse     waves
18:02 bag           magnuse HI
18:04 cait          hey bag :)
18:08 drojf         hi #koha
18:09 cait          hi drojf
18:09 drojf         hi cait
18:09 mtompset      Greetings, magnuse wizzyrea drojf
18:10 drojf         hi mtompset
18:10 magnuse       bag: HI
18:10 drojf         i got a catmandu usb stick with a vm as a present :)
18:11 magnuse       yay!
18:11 drojf         [off] and there might be a catmandu workshop for kohacon 2016 *leak*
18:11 magnuse       i have 3 or 4 in my desk drawer :-)
18:11 magnuse       [off] yay!
18:14 mtompset      magnuse: What is catmandu, and I'll take one as a Christmas present. :P
18:18 Dyrcona       mtompset: I believe catmandu is this: https://github.com/LibreCat/Catmandu
18:18 Dyrcona       I could be wrong, but it makes the most sense given the clues in the conversation so far.
18:19 mtompset      Dyrcona: I agree.
18:21 cait          drojf:  i got one of the sticks too - but probably an old version by now :)
18:22 drojf         mine may be old too ;)
18:22 drojf         he wasn't really sure
18:22 cait          but they got the nice cat picture on them...
18:23 drojf         indeed!
18:23 Dyrcona       Sounds like some kind of underworld initiation or black market dealings. :)
18:23 Dyrcona       Y'know what-I-mean? Nudge. Nudge. Wink Wink. ;)
18:25 eythian       The cat picture on mine wore off 😢
18:26 drojf         eythian: we spoke about you, i'm sure you could get a new one ;)
18:30 eythian       Heh. Well hope to be at kohacon.
18:30 eythian       Why does this tram smell like weed
18:32 eythian       https://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2015-go7246 <-- haha
18:37 drojf         eythian: i though everything in amsterdam smeels like weed
18:37 drojf         smells even
18:37 pianohacker   hey, since catmandu got brought up; I know there are some that would prefer catmandu to the macro language I dreamed up, but is there a JS catmandu implementation?
18:37 eythian       That's pretty much correct in the part I was tramming through
18:38 eythian       pianohacker: no, Catmandu is a Perl tool.
18:38 pianohacker   yeah, that was my understanding... not sure if I should make a js-catmandu-lite
18:39 drojf         why?
18:39 pianohacker   why what?
18:40 eythian       Just write a Perl to JavaScript compiler
18:41 eythian       That can handle eval because it needs to.
18:41 pianohacker   that's neovim's kind of crazy, not ours :)
18:42 ashimema      I is confused..
18:43 * drojf       heads home
18:43 ashimema      why would you need to write a perl to javascript compiler..
18:43 ashimema      would you actually be executing macro's clientside?
18:43 mtompset      can we avoid javascript?
18:43 ashimema      i.e. I thought you just write macros in 'fix' - https://github.com/LibreCat/Catmandu/wiki/Fix-language
18:43 mtompset      Evil, evil javascript. :P
18:44 ashimema      suppose it kinda depdns on what the macro's use case is.
18:44 eythian       Not if you want it to work in a browser
18:44 mtompset      eythian: How's the new job?
18:44 ashimema      well yeah.. that's what I was asking if the macro's are meant to run clientside.. i.e. in the browser..
18:45 ashimema      or serverside.. in which case you'd just use catmandu to process them ;)
18:45 eythian       mtompset: it's no Koha 😉
18:45 pianohacker   ashimema: yes they are meant to run clientside :) and that's why I'm asking about js catmandu
18:45 ashimema      hi eythian.. very strange to have you in our timezone.. nice though
18:45 pianohacker   server side is possible but kinda annoying to implement
18:46 ashimema      whose wants them to be in catmandu lang then?
18:46 pianohacker   I think you :)
18:46 ashimema      I can understand that..
18:46 ashimema      lol..
18:46 pastebot      "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Any ideas on how to write a good test for this?" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/223
18:46 pianohacker   mtompset: nooooo don't take my JS away
18:47 ashimema      I only suggested it thinking you were about to embark on writing a macro language ;)
18:47 mtompset      How am I taking it away?
18:47 ashimema      at the time I didn't know you were already 90% done ;)
18:47 pianohacker   oh, heh, yeah
18:48 mtompset      our transform to xml function busts when you hide/delete the last subfield.
18:48 ashimema      ooh.. I wan't a catmandu usb stick now..
18:48 * ashimema    has been reading up
18:49 ashimema      pianohacker.. what I really would like is a macro langauge that can be used both serverside and clientside..
18:50 ashimema      then to use it for both your advanced editor and as a replacement for the bulk edit forms we currrently have..
18:50 ashimema      but it's been ages since i've dleved into any of that.. it's likely moved allot since I last looked
18:51 * ashimema    should go cook tea now
18:51 eythian       So, you can write your own plugins for Catmandu
18:52 pianohacker   including one to cross-compile to JS? ;)
18:52 eythian       Just design one that processes the same language as you're using in JavaScript.
18:52 pianohacker   oh.
18:52 pianohacker   that's a clever idea
18:52 ashimema      :)
18:52 eythian       Not just a pretty face
18:52 ashimema      or you 'could' just run up a serverside js stack.. node, v8 ;)
18:53 ashimema      and bower up your macro processor ;)
18:53 ashimema      in some ways i prefer that option.. means your only maintaining one macro processing module.. not a perl one and a js one ;)
18:54 mtompset      easy maintenance is good!
18:54 ashimema      mmm.. though it does add a layer to the server.. needing to run node/v8 engine
18:54 pianohacker   then we just start rewriting Koha as a node app
18:54 ashimema      so it's half a dozen of one, 6 of the other ;)
18:55 ashimema      mojo app, mojo app..
18:55 eythian       Just port it all to Java and GWT so the same code works in all places.
18:55 pianohacker   oh god
18:55 ashimema      we have lots of perl coders.. so lets stick to perl ;)
18:56 ashimema      lol
18:56 ashimema      talking Mojo.. I should probably go check in on swagger2..
18:57 ashimema      I have an open pul request I havn't dealt with yet.. oops
19:00 mtompset      What? No Dancer fans? ;)
19:01 * ashimema    goes to eat
19:02 eddyinblu     Hello there
19:03 eddyinblu     Anybody wanna see an amazing list of big data visualization tools?
19:04 eddyinblu     Here: http://inspire.blufra.me/big-data-visualization-review-of-the-20-best-tools/
19:04 eddyinblu     Hope you like it
19:04 eddyinblu     Lotsa work went into it
19:04 eddyinblu     Like - a lot
19:26 eythian       ...
19:37 kidclamp      lunch, see you all soon
19:41 magnuse       mtompset: i'm a dancer fan :-)
19:42 mtompset      With everyone saying javascript, mojo, swagger, etc... I thought I'd throw that one out there. :)
20:17 * magnuse     runs out of power
20:17 magnuse       gaaahhhhh....
21:06 eythian       Hi kathryn, wizzyrea, rangi
21:06 rangi         heya eythian
21:06 eythian       And aleisha too ☺
21:07 aleisha       hiya eythian!
21:07 wizzyrea      Hi ^.^
21:07 wizzyrea      http://i.imgur.com/KlhCORc.gifv have a creepy chicken
21:08 kathryn       hallo eythian :)
21:08 oleonard      Hi folks
21:09 rangi         hi oleonard
21:11 wizzyrea      hi oleonard
21:13 eythian       Creepy chicken
21:15 wizzyrea      the creepiest chicken is <reply> http://i.imgur.com/KlhCORc.gifv
21:19 * cait1       waves
21:21 eythian       http://www.isaacchansky.me/days-since-last-new-js-framework/
21:26 * francesca   waves
21:27 pianohacker   that's fantastic
21:29 francesca     Today I am a reciptionist
21:29 cait1         new job?:)
21:34 francescam    Cait1 - not a new job,  I'm just filling in at my dad's work
21:34 cait1         :)
22:10 wizzyrea      I had eggnog candy
22:10 wizzyrea      egg-nog candy is not as terrible as you might imagine.
22:16 eythian       It doesn't have to be to still be terrible
22:16 * wizzyrea    loves egg nog
22:16 wizzyrea      though one time when I was a kid, I accidentally put it on my cereal for breakfast
22:16 wizzyrea      that was not so nice.
22:28 cait1         @wunder Konstnaz
22:28 huginn`       cait1: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
22:28 cait1         @wunder Konstanz
22:28 huginn`       cait1: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 3.0°C (11:20 PM CET on December 15, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
22:41 wizzyrea      @wunder wlg
22:41 huginn`       wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:41 wizzyrea      11! screw you, PoS southerly!
22:44 ibeardslee    mmm summer
22:45 wizzyrea      https://github.com/google/badwolf This mixes my two favourite things, libraries and doctor who. :P
22:46 cait1         night all :)
22:46 wizzyrea      night cait
23:50 dcook         bag: I seem to recall you saying it was windy in Oregon?
23:50 dcook         http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65152.shtml
23:50 dcook         200km/h winds :p
23:51 dcook         Also notice the box that says "This thunderstorm is very dangerous"
23:51 dcook         While it is serious, that box just makes me giggle..