IRC log for #koha, 2015-11-03

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00:00 bag time to catch a bus home
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00:54 * wizzyrea sighs and leaves bug 8753 right here for y'all
00:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Add forgot password link to OPAC
00:54 wizzyrea that should apply smooth as butter.
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01:56 tcohen hi
01:57 eythian ho
01:58 tcohen let's go?
02:11 eythian tcohen: master doesn't build and I don't think can be readily made to build due to lacking Test::DBIx::Class
02:11 tcohen eythian: I know
02:12 tcohen i asked for it, because of that
02:12 tcohen :-D
02:12 tcohen the other option was to tweak the tests, so they skip what is needed
02:12 eythian yeah. I don't think it can be backported as it requires a higher version of Perl than wheezy has.
02:13 tcohen that sounds like a user story to add to the newly created kanban project in taiga
02:13 eythian it's not a solvable one, so there's little point adding a story for it :)
02:14 tcohen "Someone should add the infamous code block to some test files: if !Test::DBIx::Class then SKIP; else GO ON
02:15 eythian oh, yeah, that is a solution
02:15 eythian I was thinking just on the packaging front
02:15 tcohen can't we package an older lib?
02:17 * tcohen says while git grepping the source tree to evaluate the effort
02:17 eythian hmm
02:17 eythian maybe
02:17 eythian the deps say 0.42
02:19 tcohen night everyone, it seems to be late already here
02:19 tcohen bye!
02:19 eythian bye
02:19 tcohen eythian, if it cannot be done, it cannot be done and we'll go the other way
02:19 eythian k
02:19 eythian I'll have a look
02:19 tcohen we really prefer master to build
02:19 eythian yeah, it is a good thing to have :)
02:27 eythian @later tell tcohen the earliest version of Test::DBIx::Class that Koha can use requires a newer Perl version than we support.
02:27 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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03:46 mtompset Have a great night, #koha.
03:52 eythian 3.18.12 packages uploading
03:52 dcook Interesting... looks like Zebra might do some spell checking..
03:52 wizzyrea \o/
03:52 dcook Somehow it gets "Simon" from "siemon"
03:52 eythian fuzzy
03:53 dcook It's not turned on :/
03:53 eythian hmm
03:53 dcook wrdl="siemon"
03:53 dcook Going to see if word list does some extra magic..
03:54 dcook Hmm
03:54 dcook For the Truncation attribute, No Truncation is the default. Left Truncation is not supported. Process # in
03:54 dcook search term is supported, as is Regxp-1. Regxp-2 enables the fault-tolerant (fuzzy) search. As a default,
03:54 dcook a single error (deletion, insertion, replacement) is accepted when terms are matched against the register
03:54 dcook contents.
03:54 wahanui contents are sensible. However, it's basically a text file with lots of angle braces.
03:55 dcook (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebra.pdf)
03:55 eythian ah yep
03:55 dcook That's interesting
03:55 dcook I'm not sure I have an opinion for or against it
03:56 eythian ES can do it, but it's something you have to turn on
03:56 dcook I'm thinking I'd like it more if it were something you had to turn on
03:56 eythian you must be able to turn it off, or exact searches will become complicated.
03:57 dcook I imagine exact searches might be an exception?
03:57 eythian possibly
03:57 dcook An exact search on that one shows 0 results as expected
03:58 dcook Hmm
03:58 eythian might just be the wrdl
03:58 dcook But so does wrdl,ext="simon"
03:58 dcook That's... interesting
03:58 eythian pronounced wordle
03:58 dcook I love saying worldle
03:58 dcook haha
03:58 dcook wordle*
03:59 dcook Ahhh... "ext" changes it from a wrdl to a phr I think
03:59 dcook and to a complete field..
03:59 dcook Which apparently only works for phr anyway
03:59 eythian http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=44313 <-- quite a lot of digging to work out that the rest api isn't going to be using the new swagger2 stuff any time soon.
04:01 dcook So CPAN::Meta::Check 0.009 requires >= Perl 5.17.1?
04:01 dcook And I assume the default in Jessie (or Wheezy) is 5.14.2?
04:01 eythian yeah
04:01 eythian wheezy
04:02 dcook That seems pretty conclusive to me
04:02 dcook Also, I didn't even know IO::Socket::IP was a thing
04:02 dcook I thought it was just IO::Socket::INET
04:02 eythian neither, but mojo wouldn't build without it
04:03 dcook Data for 2014-09-14
04:03 dcook IO::Socket::IP was first released with perl v5.19.8
04:03 dcook Neato burrito
04:03 eythian oh actually
04:03 eythian that's interesting
04:03 eythian I might not have stepped the versions back enough
04:04 eythian maybe I can make it work after all
04:04 dcook \o/
04:04 eythian I really wish I could make pbuilder use its output directory as a repository.
04:05 eythian so if I'm working backwards along a tree, I don't have to put things into a repo and update etc.
04:06 dcook Alas, over my head at this point :(
04:06 dcook One of these days I'll try out pbuilder
04:07 dcook Actually, I think I might understand..
04:08 eythian https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pbuild[…]th_Local_Packages <-- this is what you have to do to make it work :/
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07:06 drojf morning
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07:43 reiveune hello
07:47 magnuse bonjour!
07:47 magnuse @wunder boo
07:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
07:48 drojf hei magnuse
07:48 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:48 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
07:50 magnuse hah! ;-)
07:50 drojf i wish i had not checked that
07:50 drojf :D
07:51 drojf i got the sun shining right in my face. i did not expect it to be that cold outside
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07:54 alex_a bonjour
07:56 magnuse drojf: you have more sun than me, if that is any consolation
07:56 magnuse hiya alex_a
07:56 drojf magnuse: as long as i don't leave the house, i have quite nice weather here :)
07:59 alex_a hello magnuse
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07:59 magnuse drojf: nice!
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09:20 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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09:21 Francesca evening
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09:22 * andreashm waves
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09:29 * Francesca waves back
09:30 mveron @wunder Basel
09:30 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
09:31 * andreashm tried to apply bug 12772 but failed. It has bug 13624 as a dependency... I applied that first but still got an error applying 12772. Am I doing it right or is there another workflow I should use?
09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool
09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Passed QA , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types
09:31 magnuse andreashm: what was the error?
09:31 andreashm Hi Francesca and mveron
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09:31 Francesca sup
09:31 drojf hello again
09:32 andreashm magnuse: Ye old "Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge"
09:32 andreashm drojf, magnuse: hello!
09:32 drojf hi andreashm
09:33 andreashm mveron: you from Switzerland?
09:33 mveron andreashm: Yes, the land of the dd.mm.yyyy date format  :-)
09:34 drojf hi mveron
09:34 andreashm mveron: haha
09:34 mveron andreashm: and the chocolate...
09:34 wahanui reiveune ate them all
09:34 mveron hi drojf
09:34 reiveune :p
09:34 andreashm mveron: what's the status of Koha in Switzerland? Any libraries using it?
09:35 * andreashm would like some chocolate
09:35 * andreashm is aksing since he is moving to Switzerland in march (most likely)
09:36 mveron andreashm: Not to much... And welcome to Switzerland, where do you plan to live?
09:37 drojf why are you moving to switzerland? for the chocolate? :)
09:38 andreashm mveron: Sion. the french part.
09:38 andreashm drojf: of course!
09:38 andreashm no, but my wife is going there for a reaserch-position (post doc)
09:40 mveron andreashm: It is nice there. I live in Allschwil near Basel (15 mn with the tramway to downtown Basel).
09:41 Francesca ohh moving
09:41 Francesca exciting!
09:44 andreashm I've been is Basel before. But never Sion. Going there first time in december to check it out.
09:46 andreashm Francesca: exciting and scary!
09:46 Francesca lol
09:46 drojf andreashm: so you need a new koha library to work at? or are you going to be a remote librarian? :)
09:46 Francesca Its late here so night #koha
09:47 magnuse andreashm: wow, exciting!
09:50 mveron andreashm: Some survival tipps:
09:50 mveron Oertig-Davidson, Margaret: Beyond Chocolate. Understanding Swiss Culture ISBN 978-3-905252-21-7
09:50 mveron Haver, Gianni; Mix & Remix: Swissness in a Nutshell: ISBN 978-3-905252-65-1
09:51 andreashm drojf: remote librarian. to start with at least. and on parental leave part time.
09:51 andreashm mveron: oh, thanks!
09:52 magnuse wow, that sounds awesome
09:53 andreashm magnuse: I hope so.
09:54 andreashm Anyone from Switzerland (or around) that has actually been to Sion?
09:54 drojf andreashm: sweden is awesome. i don't think that would be possible to do over here
09:55 andreashm drojf: Sweden is good in many ways yes (and bad in some)
09:57 * magnuse has heard "Iron Lion Zion" by B. Marley, but is not sure that counts
09:57 andreashm magnuse: great help, as usual! :)
10:01 magnuse :-)
10:01 magnuse my pleasure
10:07 andreashm any thought on my previous question, on what workflow I should have when applying a bug that has another bug as a dependancy? Was I correct in applying the dependecy first and then trying to add the bug in question (in the same branch)?
10:08 drojf andreashm: that is what i usually do
10:09 andreashm hum, might be an issue with the bug then (bug 12772)
10:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool
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10:12 drojf andreashm: in what way dioes it not work? you can't apply the patches? or the feature does nor work?
10:12 andreashm can't apply the patch
10:12 paul_p andreashm about koha in switzerland: we have some customers in Lausanne.
10:12 andreashm 3-way merge problem
10:13 andreashm paul_p: oh cool, thanks. that's close to where I'll be living
10:13 drojf you have to resolve the conflicts then. some underlying code in master changed, probably database and maybe some more. you should get a message what file to fix
10:14 drojf or get the people working on the bugs to rebase
10:15 andreashm drojf: they'll have to rebase I guess... seems to be an issue with atomicupdate I just noticed.
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11:45 * fridolin releasing last 3.14.x version
11:45 fridolin bye bye pie
11:49 atheia fridolin: onto tau next :-)
11:57 fridolin atheia: well found ;D
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12:41 tcohen morning
12:41 magnuse kia ora tcohen
12:42 tcohen hi magnuse
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12:56 tcohen @later tell cait urgent RM <-> QAM meeting needed
12:56 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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13:11 misilot I have a question about bug 12426. I read through it but not sure if it will allow resending of *sent* messages or not?
13:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account
13:12 misilot i think it can only do failed messages, is that correct?
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14:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14978: (obsessive followup) fix upgrade text <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3a072420eb8a9fdc>
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15:30 mveron tcohen: Trello: I  have an account - how to join?
15:31 mveron ...and hi :-)
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15:50 nengard hola all - updating the manual and looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 ... it says to create a directory in the test plan - does that mean I need to document that sys admins need to create a folder? or is it done in the upgrade?
15:50 huginn Bug 6874: new feature, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Attach files to bibliographic records
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16:12 drojf do we know if elasticsearch and plack do get along at the moment?
16:13 bgkriegel hi nengard, I think the path must be created and set in config file by sys admins
16:18 nengard okay dokey bgkriegel I'll go and and note that in the manual
16:18 mveron bgkriegel: Thanks for adding me to trello :-)
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16:36 drojf in answer to my question: looks like they do
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17:05 tcohen mveron
17:05 tcohen what's your  trello user?]
17:06 mveron mveron - I'm already added by bgkriegel :-)
17:06 bgkriegel yeah :)
17:06 tcohen awesome :-D
17:07 tcohen thanks bgkriegel
17:07 bgkriegel np :)
17:07 tcohen please, add yourselves to the card you are taking care
17:07 tcohen (while you are on it)
17:07 reiveune bye
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17:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14821: Do not list not returned items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c1acfa345da8cadc>
17:16 pianohacker Joubu++
17:16 pianohacker much needed commit
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18:47 * tcohen is scared about t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t failures
18:49 pianohacker tcohen: have a jenkins link?
18:50 tcohen i can consistently reproduce them in kohadevbox
18:50 tcohen with the sample data
18:51 rangi broken test, or broken report? (to be fair i've never trusted that GetTopIssues
18:53 rangi passes here tho
18:53 tcohen try it a couple times
18:53 rangi passed 4
18:54 tcohen ah
18:54 tcohen i'm running prove -r t/db_dependent/Circulation/*
18:54 rangi ahh so not just that one
18:55 tcohen side effects
18:55 wahanui side effects are worse tha bad display?
18:55 rangi yeah one of the other tests must be the actual problem
18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/AnonymiseIssueHistory.t .. ok
18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckIfIssuedToPatron.t .. ok
18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckValidBarcode.t ...... ok
18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetIssues.t .............. ok
18:55 tcohen one of them :-D
18:55 rangi cos now  perl t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t
18:55 rangi fails
18:56 rangi so one of the ones that runs before it, doesn't clean up
18:57 rangi GetIssues.t
18:57 rangi no rollback
18:58 rangi its either it
18:58 rangi or Anonymise
18:59 rangi because that uses TestBuilder
18:59 rangi and I dont trust it
19:00 tcohen why not?
19:00 rangi it's opaque and it breaks randomly on jenkins
19:00 tcohen i know it is weird
19:01 rangi and i think it hides lots of how koha does things, and i think writing tests, you should know how koha does things
19:02 rangi id try adding the rollback to GetIssues.t first, and clean the db
19:02 rangi and see if it fixes it, (the other 2 tests both rollback)
19:03 tcohen i think there is something related to the adoption of DBIC's handler
19:03 rangi probably
19:03 tcohen and my fear is that the failure comes from _new_koha_item saying it is not passed a biblioitemnumber...
19:04 rangi something is definitely messing up the database though
19:04 tcohen which is supposed to have been generated from AddBiblio...
19:04 rangi well if people mess up itemtypes etc
19:04 rangi that could well fail
19:04 rangi i think we were banking on the side effect of DBI not committing
19:05 tcohen that's probably the cause
19:05 rangi thats my guess anyway
19:07 tcohen ah
19:07 tcohen i was wrong
19:07 tcohen it comes from the previous run, not the previous tests
19:08 * tcohen suspects TooMany.t
19:08 rangi ahh so could be any of the other tests
19:08 tcohen all of you actually
19:08 tcohen .-P
19:08 rangi yeah, id still do an explicit rollback
19:08 tcohen but there's a warning
19:08 rangi just because, i always prefer explicit to implicit
19:08 tcohen yes, I've added explicit everywhere I could
19:08 rangi cool
19:09 tcohen I even filled a bug + patch for removing transaction handling from within testbuilder
19:09 tcohen so it is just a silly random data generator, and nothing more
19:09 rangi nice
19:10 tcohen we need to ship a script to load all default data
19:10 rangi i hope to get some time this week to test, but next week is NZ library conference, and ive been away for 5 weeks so, so much to catch up on
19:10 * tcohen thinks bisecting would be even easier
19:10 rangi yes, that would be good
19:10 tcohen oh noes rangi!
19:11 rangi i did test one thing tho
19:12 tcohen heeh
19:13 bag morning
19:13 rangi hi bag
19:14 tcohen rangi: tests started failing randomly, when I added the -s switch to prove
19:14 bag heya rangi
19:14 tcohen to catch side effects
19:14 tcohen hi bag
19:14 bag heya tcohen
19:14 tcohen and we did :-/
19:14 rangi tcohen: maybe that is a good thing for the academy students this year
19:14 rangi run tests with -s, try and track down the side effects
19:15 bag nengard make a note of that too for your future classes ^^^
19:15 bag ah she’s at lunch - I will email her
19:20 tcohen i put my name for maintaining jenkins
19:20 tcohen btw
19:20 rangi cool tcohen
19:21 tcohen the point is to spend some time on polishing *how* we use it
19:21 rangi i put my name for nothing
19:21 rangi for the first time ever
19:21 rangi hehe
19:21 tcohen so it even makes sense
19:21 tcohen rangi: congrats
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19:22 rangi yeah, id like to see us get into doing some js side tests too, i know angular etc has tools to do all that
19:25 rangi ohhh this is really good news
19:25 tcohen ???
19:26 rangi https://gnupg.org/blog/2015110[…]g-in-october.html
19:26 rangi TOFU and DANE
19:26 rangi make gpg a lot more usable
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19:36 jwellner Hey JesseM - I just got a bit of spam from Cindy asking to open a PDF.  It's spam, but you may want to investigate.
19:36 jwellner Probably some malware on her machine or account compromised.
19:36 JesseM jwellner yes it is Spam. Please do not open that email.
19:36 JesseM She is looking in to that right now
19:36 jwellner Our content filter blocked any opening of it.
19:37 JesseM Good
19:39 jwellner Thanks much!  Just wanted to let you know
19:45 JesseM Thank you jwellner
19:47 tcohen bye #koha
19:48 rangi fwiw i got it too, i suspect everyone in the address book did
19:49 rangi JesseM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8  <-- if you want your boys to see a traditional haka
19:52 bag JesseM that haka is awesome - you should show that to cole and ty
19:52 JesseM Cole is watching it right now with me
19:52 JesseM :)
19:52 bag awesome
19:52 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
19:52 bag nice
19:53 JesseM thanks rangi
19:53 rangi something like that was often enough to end a battle before it started
19:53 bag yeah I can imagine
19:54 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5R-0l7wdY  <-- and of course this is worth watching again ;)
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19:55 JesseM i believe that rangi. Past few days my son has went up to random people and asked them if they saw the All Blacks win!  :)
19:55 rangi hehe
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19:57 rangi all the tries were scored by players who play for wellington
19:58 JesseM You were up pretty early that morning to watch that match
19:58 rangi yup
19:58 rangi http://www.nzherald.co.nz/spor[…]objectid=11539326  <-- beauden barret is a pretty nice guy too
19:59 JesseM I saw that the security guard tackled that kid
19:59 rangi yeah
19:59 rangi that was a bit OTT
20:00 JesseM very much so
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20:08 cbrannon Question about the Koha search header.  Are all the search tabs rendered as displayed before they are hidden, or are they initially rendered hidden?
20:12 pianohacker initially displayed then hidden, I believe, cbrannon
20:12 pianohacker you can see it on slow servers :)
20:12 cbrannon Would it break anything to initially render all but the first as hidden?
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20:13 pianohacker cbrannon: I'm not certain, but I don't think so. Why?
20:14 cbrannon Cause it drives me nuts to watch all the boxes render and then hide.  Feels kinda sloppy.
20:14 cbrannon I'm not sure what the point of displaying them and then hidding them is.
20:15 cbrannon :-|
20:15 pianohacker cbrannon: definitely agree, that's a UI polish thing that bugs me too
20:16 pianohacker cbrannon: I'd highly encourage poking an existing bug or filing an existing one
20:16 cbrannon :)
20:17 pianohacker you doing so would probably have more umph than me, I'm a bit picky and out in the woods when it comes to UI sometimes :)
20:17 cbrannon I'll see about doing that this afternoon.   Thanks for the input.
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20:30 wizzyrea mveron++
20:31 mveron wizzyrea: Thanks :-)
20:31 wizzyrea thank you for having a look at that passwords patch set
20:32 wizzyrea it's every bit as important as any feature we add to the staff client
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20:42 cait s
20:43 rangi hi cait
20:43 cait hi rangi :)
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20:51 Francesca morning
20:52 cait morning Francesca :)
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20:54 Francesca hey cait! sup
20:54 cait :
20:54 cait :)
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20:56 mveron nengard: Bug 15091
20:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed
20:57 nengard yup?
20:57 nengard oh - needs signoff
20:57 nengard WOOO HOO - okay lookinig now
20:57 mveron I hope it addresses your concerns...
20:57 cait mveron++ :)
20:57 mveron Hi cait :-)
20:57 cait you are awesome :)
20:58 mveron ...and hi everybody
20:58 mveron Everybody ++
20:59 nengard mveron it still doesn't say that the items were not checked out - it says that the patron has a debt, but not that the items weren't checked out - it's confusing
20:59 nengard mveron http://screencast.com/t/OxERq7NhJ3bY
21:00 tcohen mveron++
21:01 tcohen hi cait!
21:01 cait hi :)
21:01 cait back home
21:01 cait you wanted to talk?
21:01 mveron nengard: I will try to find the place where I can put a "Not checked out"
21:01 cait i haven't read the bug mail yet - be warned :)
21:02 cait mveron: maybe if the problem is the fine, it coudl show it on top?
21:02 nengard mveron if i get checkboxes http://screencast.com/t/2AEmTAgoqhY and then click the button I see what's okay http://screencast.com/t/j5J00qU5E but not that the other failed per se
21:02 cait might not even need to try all items then
21:02 nengard I'd just change the warning to 'no checked out' or 'checkout failed' and then the reason
21:02 nengard it's fine with me
21:02 cait ah ok, ignore me... i think i need to take a closer look at the feature
21:02 nengard hehe
21:02 cait not sure how it works yet
21:02 cait what nengard says sounds good :)
21:03 nengard :)
21:03 * mveron dives into the code
21:03 nengard mveron++
21:07 * mveron could get rich if the test patron would pay all his fines...
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21:14 mveron nengard: I added "Not checked out". What do you think?
21:15 nengard testing again now
21:17 nengard MUCH BETTER
21:17 cait mveron: heh
21:18 nengard bug 15091
21:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed
21:19 nengard I think a future improvement is to make it look more friendly - but for now it's 100% clear what's going on
21:19 nengard mveron++
21:19 nengard again :) hehe
21:20 cait i wanna see... :)
21:20 nengard then i guess you should be the one to qa it :) hehe
21:20 cait oh
21:20 cait good point
21:20 wahanui I know! The blade went right through that child!
21:21 mveron nengard: Yes, there could be some improvements. E.g. one could compare the very first batch with the outcome after the confirmation. But that would be a bigger task.
21:21 cait wahanui!
21:21 wahanui i heard i was rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass
21:21 nengard I agree mveron this is enough to make it useable and then we can make it prettier
21:23 mveron Small steps in usability lead to big steps in kohaity
21:24 tcohen nengard: have you looked at patron card creator and label creator for the manual?
21:28 wizzyrea yeah, that's pretty important
21:28 nengard not yet - it's on my list
21:28 wizzyrea oh, tcohen
21:28 wizzyrea or anybody really
21:28 wizzyrea I noticed, I guess with the fontawesome stuff? that the buttons there went stupid and I had a patch to put them right
21:28 nengard I have about 20 more things to document - this is a big upgrade
21:29 wizzyrea bug 15112
21:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator
21:29 tcohen wizzyrea: fill abug
21:29 tcohen ah, that
21:29 wahanui ah, that is probably just to say that everything should be on one line
21:31 cait wizzyrea: hm, thought khall's follow up had fixed it
21:31 wizzyrea it didn't as of yesterday :/
21:32 wizzyrea which followup?
21:33 tcohen efa2c33c870b763f4af8198e10eb97a154189200
21:33 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=44014
21:34 wizzyrea mm no
21:34 wizzyrea he changed the icons
21:34 wizzyrea but doing that made them not fit in the table
21:34 wizzyrea so they stack
21:34 wizzyrea which is not so pretty
21:34 cait gah.
21:35 cait can you fix it?
21:35 wizzyrea it's on that patch for 15112
21:35 wizzyrea :)
21:35 cait shoudl we add it to trello?
21:35 cait bug 15112
21:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator
21:35 wizzyrea I could split it out I suppose
21:35 cait i have added it
21:36 cait to the nso ist
21:36 cait nso list
21:36 wahanui nso list is finally down a bit :)
21:36 cait i wish wahanui...
21:36 cait we still need some plack experts for fixing problems
21:36 cait and testers for the dates patches too
21:43 wizzyrea hm
21:52 mveron testers for the dates patches ++
21:52 mveron :-)
21:53 eythian hi
21:53 wahanui hey, eythian
21:53 cait hi eythian :)
21:53 cait eythian++ too
21:54 cait saw you are workingon the packages :)
21:54 tcohen lazy eythian, who doesn't want to package newer perl version for wheezy
21:54 pianohacker so lazy
21:54 eythian yeah
21:54 eythian guilty as charged
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22:42 Francesca hey eythian was the weather in aussie nicer than here?
22:42 eythian sydney was too hot, Hobart was about wellington-like
22:42 eythian but, not today-wellington
22:43 Francesca so windy but not freezing
22:44 eythian well, not as windy either
22:44 eythian but not really hot like sydney
22:45 Francesca @wunder wlg
22:45 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
22:45 wizzyrea that is too cold for november.
22:45 Francesca its actually sad
22:45 Francesca the weather is returning us to winter
22:49 dcook Hobart was pretty nice :)
22:49 * mveron did some digging on Bug 15098 and needs feedback
22:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group
22:51 mveron Oh, it's getting late, almost a new day.
22:51 dcook It's only 9:51am
22:51 dcook It is a new day :D
22:52 mveron Hmm, it seems that somebody invented time zones... I have 11:51 pm....
22:52 Francesca and I have 11.52 am
22:52 mveron Anyway, good night / daytime everybody  :-)
22:52 dcook Well, we can't all be right :p
22:52 dcook night mveron
22:52 Francesca bye mveron
22:53 eythian dcook: speak for yourself ;)
22:53 * mveron hopes for magical sign-offs for the C4:Dates removal bugs while sleeping  :-)
22:54 pianohacker mveron: what's the count?
22:54 mveron pianohacker: 8 to sign off...
22:54 cait hm i think i don' tunderstand what is meant in bug 15119?
22:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hide search header text boxes on render
22:55 * mveron waves...
22:55 pianohacker bye
22:56 eythian wahanui: hippies is <reply>Not allowed! http://www.grandysabroad.com/w[…]7.22-759x1024.jpg
22:56 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:56 pianohacker cait: if you watch the loading of some pages in the staff client on a slow connection/server, you can see the three different search boxes briefly appear before the default one is the only one shown
22:57 cait oh
22:57 cait i see
23:01 wizzyrea yeah I've seen things like that, often it has things loading in document.ready when they don't need to be
23:02 pianohacker document.ready or window.load?
23:10 wizzyrea document.ready, in the case I'm thinking of
23:11 wizzyrea (I have no idea what the case is here)
23:15 wizzyrea it seems most pronounced when there's a proxy
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