Time  Nick        Message
23:15 wizzyrea    it seems most pronounced when there's a proxy
23:11 wizzyrea    (I have no idea what the case is here)
23:10 wizzyrea    document.ready, in the case I'm thinking of
23:02 pianohacker document.ready or window.load?
23:01 wizzyrea    yeah I've seen things like that, often it has things loading in document.ready when they don't need to be
22:57 cait        i see
22:57 cait        oh
22:56 pianohacker cait: if you watch the loading of some pages in the staff client on a slow connection/server, you can see the three different search boxes briefly appear before the default one is the only one shown
22:56 wahanui     OK, eythian.
22:56 eythian     wahanui: hippies is <reply>Not allowed! http://www.grandysabroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015-09-20-12.57.22-759x1024.jpg
22:55 dcook       [off] I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QamU4-8NUw
22:55 pianohacker bye
22:55 * mveron    waves...
22:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hide search header text boxes on render
22:54 cait        hm i think i don' tunderstand what is meant in bug 15119?
22:54 mveron      pianohacker: 8 to sign off...
22:54 pianohacker mveron: what's the count?
22:53 * mveron    hopes for magical sign-offs for the C4:Dates removal bugs while sleeping  :-)
22:53 eythian     dcook: speak for yourself ;)
22:52 Francesca   bye mveron
22:52 dcook       night mveron
22:52 dcook       Well, we can't all be right :p
22:52 mveron      Anyway, good night / daytime everybody  :-)
22:52 Francesca   and I have 11.52 am
22:52 mveron      Hmm, it seems that somebody invented time zones... I have 11:51 pm....
22:51 dcook       It is a new day :D
22:51 dcook       It's only 9:51am
22:51 mveron      Oh, it's getting late, almost a new day.
22:49 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group
22:49 * mveron    did some digging on Bug 15098 and needs feedback
22:49 dcook       Hobart was pretty nice :)
22:45 Francesca   the weather is returning us to winter
22:45 Francesca   its actually sad
22:45 wizzyrea    that is too cold for november.
22:45 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
22:45 Francesca   @wunder wlg
22:44 eythian     but not really hot like sydney
22:44 eythian     well, not as windy either
22:43 Francesca   so windy but not freezing
22:42 eythian     but, not today-wellington
22:42 eythian     sydney was too hot, Hobart was about wellington-like
22:42 Francesca   hey eythian was the weather in aussie nicer than here?
21:54 eythian     guilty as charged
21:54 eythian     yeah
21:54 pianohacker so lazy
21:54 tcohen      lazy eythian, who doesn't want to package newer perl version for wheezy
21:54 cait        saw you are workingon the packages :)
21:53 cait        eythian++ too
21:53 cait        hi eythian :)
21:53 wahanui     hey, eythian
21:53 eythian     hi
21:52 mveron      :-)
21:52 mveron      testers for the dates patches ++
21:43 wizzyrea    hm
21:36 cait        and testers for the dates patches too
21:36 cait        we still need some plack experts for fixing problems
21:36 cait        i wish wahanui...
21:36 wahanui     nso list is finally down a bit :)
21:36 cait        nso list
21:36 cait        to the nso ist
21:35 cait        i have added it
21:35 wizzyrea    I could split it out I suppose
21:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator
21:35 cait        bug 15112
21:35 cait        shoudl we add it to trello?
21:35 wizzyrea    :)
21:35 wizzyrea    it's on that patch for 15112
21:35 cait        can you fix it?
21:34 cait        gah.
21:34 wizzyrea    which is not so pretty
21:34 wizzyrea    so they stack
21:34 wizzyrea    but doing that made them not fit in the table
21:34 wizzyrea    he changed the icons
21:34 wizzyrea    mm no
21:33 cait        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=44014
21:33 tcohen      efa2c33c870b763f4af8198e10eb97a154189200
21:32 wizzyrea    which followup?
21:31 wizzyrea    it didn't as of yesterday :/
21:31 cait        wizzyrea: hm, thought khall's follow up had fixed it
21:29 wahanui     ah, that is probably just to say that everything should be on one line
21:29 tcohen      ah, that
21:29 tcohen      wizzyrea: fill abug
21:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator
21:29 wizzyrea    bug 15112
21:28 nengard     I have about 20 more things to document - this is a big upgrade
21:28 wizzyrea    I noticed, I guess with the fontawesome stuff? that the buttons there went stupid and I had a patch to put them right
21:28 wizzyrea    or anybody really
21:28 wizzyrea    oh, tcohen
21:28 nengard     not yet - it's on my list
21:28 wizzyrea    yeah, that's pretty important
21:24 tcohen      nengard: have you looked at patron card creator and label creator for the manual?
21:23 mveron      Small steps in usability lead to big steps in kohaity
21:21 nengard     I agree mveron this is enough to make it useable and then we can make it prettier
21:21 wahanui     i heard i was rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass
21:21 cait        wahanui!
21:21 mveron      nengard: Yes, there could be some improvements. E.g. one could compare the very first batch with the outcome after the confirmation. But that would be a bigger task.
21:20 wahanui     I know! The blade went right through that child!
21:20 cait        good point
21:20 cait        oh
21:20 nengard     then i guess you should be the one to qa it :) hehe
21:20 cait        i wanna see... :)
21:19 nengard     again :) hehe
21:19 nengard     mveron++
21:19 nengard     I think a future improvement is to make it look more friendly - but for now it's 100% clear what's going on
21:18 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed
21:18 nengard     bug 15091
21:17 cait        mveron: heh
21:17 nengard     MUCH BETTER
21:15 nengard     testing again now
21:14 mveron      nengard: I added "Not checked out". What do you think?
21:07 * mveron    could get rich if the test patron would pay all his fines...
21:03 nengard     mveron++
21:03 * mveron    dives into the code
21:03 nengard     :)
21:02 cait        what nengard says sounds good :)
21:02 cait        not sure how it works yet
21:02 nengard     hehe
21:02 cait        ah ok, ignore me... i think i need to take a closer look at the feature
21:02 nengard     it's fine with me
21:02 nengard     I'd just change the warning to 'no checked out' or 'checkout failed' and then the reason
21:02 cait        might not even need to try all items then
21:02 nengard     mveron if i get checkboxes http://screencast.com/t/2AEmTAgoqhY and then click the button I see what's okay http://screencast.com/t/j5J00qU5E but not that the other failed per se
21:02 cait        mveron: maybe if the problem is the fine, it coudl show it on top?
21:01 cait        i haven't read the bug mail yet - be warned :)
21:01 mveron      nengard: I will try to find the place where I can put a "Not checked out"
21:01 cait        you wanted to talk?
21:01 cait        back home
21:01 cait        hi :)
21:01 tcohen      hi cait!
21:00 tcohen      mveron++
20:59 nengard     mveron http://screencast.com/t/OxERq7NhJ3bY
20:59 nengard     mveron it still doesn't say that the items were not checked out - it says that the patron has a debt, but not that the items weren't checked out - it's confusing
20:58 mveron      Everybody ++
20:58 mveron      ...and hi everybody
20:57 cait        you are awesome :)
20:57 mveron      Hi cait :-)
20:57 cait        mveron++ :)
20:57 mveron      I hope it addresses your concerns...
20:57 nengard     WOOO HOO - okay lookinig now
20:57 nengard     oh - needs signoff
20:57 nengard     yup?
20:56 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed
20:56 mveron      nengard: Bug 15091
20:54 cait        :)
20:54 cait        :
20:54 Francesca   hey cait! sup
20:52 cait        morning Francesca :)
20:51 Francesca   morning
20:43 cait        hi rangi :)
20:43 rangi       hi cait
20:42 cait        s
20:42 * cait      wave
20:32 wizzyrea    it's every bit as important as any feature we add to the staff client
20:31 wizzyrea    thank you for having a look at that passwords patch set
20:31 mveron      wizzyrea: Thanks :-)
20:30 wizzyrea    mveron++
20:17 cbrannon    I'll see about doing that this afternoon.   Thanks for the input.
20:17 pianohacker you doing so would probably have more umph than me, I'm a bit picky and out in the woods when it comes to UI sometimes :)
20:16 cbrannon    :)
20:16 pianohacker cbrannon: I'd highly encourage poking an existing bug or filing an existing one
20:15 pianohacker cbrannon: definitely agree, that's a UI polish thing that bugs me too
20:15 cbrannon    :-|
20:14 cbrannon    I'm not sure what the point of displaying them and then hidding them is.
20:14 cbrannon    Cause it drives me nuts to watch all the boxes render and then hide.  Feels kinda sloppy.
20:13 pianohacker cbrannon: I'm not certain, but I don't think so. Why?
20:12 cbrannon    Would it break anything to initially render all but the first as hidden?
20:12 pianohacker you can see it on slow servers :)
20:12 pianohacker initially displayed then hidden, I believe, cbrannon
20:08 cbrannon    Question about the Koha search header.  Are all the search tabs rendered as displayed before they are hidden, or are they initially rendered hidden?
20:00 JesseM      very much so
19:59 rangi       that was a bit OTT
19:59 rangi       yeah
19:59 JesseM      I saw that the security guard tackled that kid
19:58 rangi       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11539326  <-- beauden barret is a pretty nice guy too
19:58 rangi       yup
19:58 JesseM      You were up pretty early that morning to watch that match
19:57 rangi       all the tries were scored by players who play for wellington
19:55 rangi       hehe
19:55 JesseM      i believe that rangi. Past few days my son has went up to random people and asked them if they saw the All Blacks win!  :)
19:54 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5R-0l7wdY  <-- and of course this is worth watching again ;)
19:53 bag         yeah I can imagine
19:53 rangi       something like that was often enough to end a battle before it started
19:53 JesseM      thanks rangi
19:52 bag         nice
19:52 wahanui     That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
19:52 bag         awesome
19:52 JesseM      :)
19:52 JesseM      Cole is watching it right now with me
19:52 bag         JesseM that haka is awesome - you should show that to cole and ty
19:49 rangi       JesseM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8  <-- if you want your boys to see a traditional haka
19:48 rangi       fwiw i got it too, i suspect everyone in the address book did
19:47 tcohen      bye #koha
19:45 JesseM      Thank you jwellner
19:39 jwellner    Thanks much!  Just wanted to let you know
19:37 JesseM      Good
19:36 jwellner    Our content filter blocked any opening of it.
19:36 JesseM      She is looking in to that right now
19:36 JesseM      jwellner yes it is Spam. Please do not open that email.
19:36 jwellner    Probably some malware on her machine or account compromised.
19:36 jwellner    Hey JesseM - I just got a bit of spam from Cindy asking to open a PDF.  It's spam, but you may want to investigate.
19:26 rangi       make gpg a lot more usable
19:26 rangi       TOFU and DANE
19:26 rangi       https://gnupg.org/blog/20151103-gnupg-in-october.html
19:25 tcohen      ???
19:25 rangi       ohhh this is really good news
19:22 rangi       yeah, id like to see us get into doing some js side tests too, i know angular etc has tools to do all that
19:21 tcohen      rangi: congrats
19:21 tcohen      so it even makes sense
19:21 rangi       hehe
19:21 rangi       for the first time ever
19:21 rangi       i put my name for nothing
19:21 tcohen      the point is to spend some time on polishing *how* we use it
19:20 rangi       cool tcohen
19:20 tcohen      btw
19:20 tcohen      i put my name for maintaining jenkins
19:15 bag         ah she’s at lunch - I will email her
19:15 bag         nengard make a note of that too for your future classes ^^^
19:14 rangi       run tests with -s, try and track down the side effects
19:14 rangi       tcohen: maybe that is a good thing for the academy students this year
19:14 tcohen      and we did :-/
19:14 bag         heya tcohen
19:14 tcohen      hi bag
19:14 tcohen      to catch side effects
19:14 bag         heya rangi
19:14 tcohen      rangi: tests started failing randomly, when I added the -s switch to prove
19:13 rangi       hi bag
19:13 bag         morning
19:12 tcohen      heeh
19:11 rangi       i did test one thing tho
19:10 tcohen      oh noes rangi!
19:10 rangi       yes, that would be good
19:10 * tcohen    thinks bisecting would be even easier
19:10 rangi       i hope to get some time this week to test, but next week is NZ library conference, and ive been away for 5 weeks so, so much to catch up on
19:10 tcohen      we need to ship a script to load all default data
19:09 rangi       nice
19:09 tcohen      so it is just a silly random data generator, and nothing more
19:09 tcohen      I even filled a bug + patch for removing transaction handling from within testbuilder
19:08 rangi       cool
19:08 tcohen      yes, I've added explicit everywhere I could
19:08 rangi       just because, i always prefer explicit to implicit
19:08 tcohen      but there's a warning
19:08 rangi       yeah, id still do an explicit rollback
19:08 tcohen      .-P
19:08 tcohen      all of you actually
19:08 rangi       ahh so could be any of the other tests
19:08 * tcohen    suspects TooMany.t
19:07 tcohen      it comes from the previous run, not the previous tests
19:07 tcohen      i was wrong
19:07 tcohen      ah
19:05 rangi       thats my guess anyway
19:05 tcohen      that's probably the cause
19:04 rangi       i think we were banking on the side effect of DBI not committing
19:04 rangi       that could well fail
19:04 rangi       well if people mess up itemtypes etc
19:04 tcohen      which is supposed to have been generated from AddBiblio...
19:04 rangi       something is definitely messing up the database though
19:03 tcohen      and my fear is that the failure comes from _new_koha_item saying it is not passed a biblioitemnumber...
19:03 rangi       probably
19:03 tcohen      i think there is something related to the adoption of DBIC's handler
19:02 rangi       and see if it fixes it, (the other 2 tests both rollback)
19:02 rangi       id try adding the rollback to GetIssues.t first, and clean the db
19:01 rangi       and i think it hides lots of how koha does things, and i think writing tests, you should know how koha does things
19:00 tcohen      i know it is weird
19:00 rangi       it's opaque and it breaks randomly on jenkins
19:00 tcohen      why not?
18:59 rangi       and I dont trust it
18:59 rangi       because that uses TestBuilder
18:58 rangi       or Anonymise
18:58 rangi       its either it
18:57 rangi       no rollback
18:57 rangi       GetIssues.t
18:56 rangi       so one of the ones that runs before it, doesn't clean up
18:55 rangi       fails
18:55 rangi       cos now  perl t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t
18:55 tcohen      one of them :-D
18:55 tcohen      t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetIssues.t .............. ok
18:55 tcohen      t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckValidBarcode.t ...... ok
18:55 tcohen      t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckIfIssuedToPatron.t .. ok
18:55 tcohen      t/db_dependent/Circulation/AnonymiseIssueHistory.t .. ok
18:55 rangi       yeah one of the other tests must be the actual problem
18:55 wahanui     side effects are worse tha bad display?
18:55 tcohen      side effects
18:54 rangi       ahh so not just that one
18:54 tcohen      i'm running prove -r t/db_dependent/Circulation/*
18:54 tcohen      ah
18:53 rangi       passed 4
18:53 tcohen      try it a couple times
18:53 rangi       passes here tho
18:51 rangi       broken test, or broken report? (to be fair i've never trusted that GetTopIssues
18:50 tcohen      with the sample data
18:50 tcohen      i can consistently reproduce them in kohadevbox
18:49 pianohacker tcohen: have a jenkins link?
18:47 * tcohen    is scared about t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t failures
17:16 pianohacker much needed commit
17:16 pianohacker Joubu++
17:15 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14821: Do not list not returned items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8122df1f8788cbd695e06aa4c1acfa345da8cadc>
17:07 reiveune    bye
17:07 tcohen      (while you are on it)
17:07 tcohen      please, add yourselves to the card you are taking care
17:07 bgkriegel   np :)
17:07 tcohen      thanks bgkriegel
17:06 tcohen      awesome :-D
17:06 bgkriegel   yeah :)
17:06 mveron      mveron - I'm already added by bgkriegel :-)
17:05 tcohen      what's your  trello user?]
17:05 tcohen      mveron
16:36 drojf       in answer to my question: looks like they do
16:18 mveron      bgkriegel: Thanks for adding me to trello :-)
16:18 nengard     okay dokey bgkriegel I'll go and and note that in the manual
16:13 bgkriegel   hi nengard, I think the path must be created and set in config file by sys admins
16:12 drojf       do we know if elasticsearch and plack do get along at the moment?
15:50 huginn      04Bug 6874: new feature, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Attach files to bibliographic records
15:50 nengard     hola all - updating the manual and looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 ... it says to create a directory in the test plan - does that mean I need to document that sys admins need to create a folder? or is it done in the upgrade?
15:31 mveron      ...and hi :-)
15:30 mveron      tcohen: Trello: I  have an account - how to join?
14:12 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14978: (obsessive followup) fix upgrade text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1517301c38e3414c984ac09c3a072420eb8a9fdc>
13:12 misilot     i think it can only do failed messages, is that correct?
13:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account
13:11 misilot     I have a question about bug 12426. I read through it but not sure if it will allow resending of *sent* messages or not?
12:56 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:56 tcohen      @later tell cait urgent RM <-> QAM meeting needed
12:42 tcohen      hi magnuse
12:41 magnuse     kia ora tcohen
12:41 tcohen      morning
11:57 fridolin    atheia: well found ;D
11:49 atheia      fridolin: onto tau next :-)
11:45 fridolin    bye bye pie
11:45 * fridolin  releasing last 3.14.x version
10:15 andreashm   drojf: they'll have to rebase I guess... seems to be an issue with atomicupdate I just noticed.
10:14 drojf       or get the people working on the bugs to rebase
10:13 drojf       you have to resolve the conflicts then. some underlying code in master changed, probably database and maybe some more. you should get a message what file to fix
10:13 andreashm   paul_p: oh cool, thanks. that's close to where I'll be living
10:12 andreashm   3-way merge problem
10:12 paul_p      andreashm about koha in switzerland: we have some customers in Lausanne.
10:12 andreashm   can't apply the patch
10:12 drojf       andreashm: in what way dioes it not work? you can't apply the patches? or the feature does nor work?
10:09 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool
10:09 andreashm   hum, might be an issue with the bug then (bug 12772)
10:08 drojf       andreashm: that is what i usually do
10:07 andreashm   any thought on my previous question, on what workflow I should have when applying a bug that has another bug as a dependancy? Was I correct in applying the dependecy first and then trying to add the bug in question (in the same branch)?
10:01 magnuse     my pleasure
10:01 magnuse     :-)
09:57 andreashm   magnuse: great help, as usual! :)
09:57 * magnuse   has heard "Iron Lion Zion" by B. Marley, but is not sure that counts
09:55 andreashm   drojf: Sweden is good in many ways yes (and bad in some)
09:54 drojf       andreashm: sweden is awesome. i don't think that would be possible to do over here
09:54 andreashm   Anyone from Switzerland (or around) that has actually been to Sion?
09:53 andreashm   magnuse: I hope so.
09:52 magnuse     wow, that sounds awesome
09:51 andreashm   mveron: oh, thanks!
09:51 andreashm   drojf: remote librarian. to start with at least. and on parental leave part time.
09:50 mveron      Haver, Gianni; Mix & Remix: Swissness in a Nutshell: ISBN 978-3-905252-65-1
09:50 mveron      Oertig-Davidson, Margaret: Beyond Chocolate. Understanding Swiss Culture ISBN 978-3-905252-21-7
09:50 mveron      andreashm: Some survival tipps:
09:47 magnuse     andreashm: wow, exciting!
09:46 Francesca   Its late here so night #koha
09:46 drojf       andreashm: so you need a new koha library to work at? or are you going to be a remote librarian? :)
09:46 Francesca   lol
09:46 andreashm   Francesca: exciting and scary!
09:44 andreashm   I've been is Basel before. But never Sion. Going there first time in december to check it out.
09:41 Francesca   exciting!
09:41 Francesca   ohh moving
09:40 mveron      andreashm: It is nice there. I live in Allschwil near Basel (15 mn with the tramway to downtown Basel).
09:38 andreashm   no, but my wife is going there for a reaserch-position (post doc)
09:38 andreashm   drojf: of course!
09:38 andreashm   mveron: Sion. the french part.
09:37 drojf       why are you moving to switzerland? for the chocolate? :)
09:36 mveron      andreashm: Not to much... And welcome to Switzerland, where do you plan to live?
09:35 * andreashm is aksing since he is moving to Switzerland in march (most likely)
09:35 * andreashm would like some chocolate
09:34 andreashm   mveron: what's the status of Koha in Switzerland? Any libraries using it?
09:34 reiveune    :p
09:34 mveron      hi drojf
09:34 wahanui     reiveune ate them all
09:34 mveron      andreashm: and the chocolate...
09:34 andreashm   mveron: haha
09:34 drojf       hi mveron
09:33 mveron      andreashm: Yes, the land of the dd.mm.yyyy date format  :-)
09:33 andreashm   mveron: you from Switzerland?
09:32 drojf       hi andreashm
09:32 andreashm   drojf, magnuse: hello!
09:32 andreashm   magnuse: Ye old "Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge"
09:31 drojf       hello again
09:31 Francesca   sup
09:31 andreashm   Hi Francesca and mveron
09:31 magnuse     andreashm: what was the error?
09:31 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Passed QA , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types
09:31 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool
09:31 * andreashm tried to apply bug 12772 but failed. It has bug 13624 as a dependency... I applied that first but still got an error applying 12772. Am I doing it right or is there another workflow I should use?
09:30 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
09:30 mveron      @wunder Basel
09:29 * Francesca waves back
09:22 * andreashm waves
09:21 Francesca   evening
09:20 mveron      Good morning / daytime #koha
07:59 magnuse     drojf: nice!
07:59 alex_a      hello magnuse
07:56 drojf       magnuse: as long as i don't leave the house, i have quite nice weather here :)
07:56 magnuse     hiya alex_a
07:56 magnuse     drojf: you have more sun than me, if that is any consolation
07:54 alex_a      bonjour
07:51 drojf       i got the sun shining right in my face. i did not expect it to be that cold outside
07:50 drojf       :D
07:50 drojf       i wish i had not checked that
07:50 magnuse     hah! ;-)
07:48 huginn      drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
07:48 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
07:48 drojf       hei magnuse
07:47 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
07:47 magnuse     @wunder boo
07:47 magnuse     bonjour!
07:43 reiveune    hello
07:06 drojf       morning
04:08 eythian     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building_With_Local_Packages <-- this is what you have to do to make it work :/
04:07 dcook       Actually, I think I might understand..
04:06 dcook       One of these days I'll try out pbuilder
04:06 dcook       Alas, over my head at this point :(
04:05 eythian     so if I'm working backwards along a tree, I don't have to put things into a repo and update etc.
04:04 eythian     I really wish I could make pbuilder use its output directory as a repository.
04:04 dcook       \o/
04:04 eythian     maybe I can make it work after all
04:03 eythian     I might not have stepped the versions back enough
04:03 eythian     that's interesting
04:03 eythian     oh actually
04:03 dcook       Neato burrito
04:03 dcook       IO::Socket::IP was first released with perl v5.19.8
04:03 dcook       Data for 2014-09-14
04:02 eythian     neither, but mojo wouldn't build without it
04:02 dcook       I thought it was just IO::Socket::INET
04:02 dcook       Also, I didn't even know IO::Socket::IP was a thing
04:02 dcook       That seems pretty conclusive to me
04:01 eythian     wheezy
04:01 eythian     yeah
04:01 dcook       And I assume the default in Jessie (or Wheezy) is 5.14.2?
04:01 dcook       So CPAN::Meta::Check 0.009 requires >= Perl 5.17.1?
03:59 eythian     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=44313 <-- quite a lot of digging to work out that the rest api isn't going to be using the new swagger2 stuff any time soon.
03:59 dcook       Which apparently only works for phr anyway
03:59 dcook       and to a complete field..
03:59 dcook       Ahhh... "ext" changes it from a wrdl to a phr I think
03:58 dcook       wordle*
03:58 dcook       haha
03:58 dcook       I love saying worldle
03:58 eythian     pronounced wordle
03:58 dcook       That's... interesting
03:58 dcook       But so does wrdl,ext="simon"
03:58 eythian     might just be the wrdl
03:58 dcook       Hmm
03:57 dcook       An exact search on that one shows 0 results as expected
03:57 eythian     possibly
03:57 dcook       I imagine exact searches might be an exception?
03:56 eythian     you must be able to turn it off, or exact searches will become complicated.
03:56 dcook       I'm thinking I'd like it more if it were something you had to turn on
03:56 eythian     ES can do it, but it's something you have to turn on
03:55 dcook       I'm not sure I have an opinion for or against it
03:55 dcook       That's interesting
03:55 eythian     ah yep
03:55 dcook       (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebra.pdf)
03:54 wahanui     contents are sensible. However, it's basically a text file with lots of angle braces.
03:54 dcook       contents.
03:54 dcook       a single error (deletion, insertion, replacement) is accepted when terms are matched against the register
03:54 dcook       search term is supported, as is Regxp-1. Regxp-2 enables the fault-tolerant (fuzzy) search. As a default,
03:54 dcook       For the Truncation attribute, No Truncation is the default. Left Truncation is not supported. Process # in
03:54 dcook       Hmm
03:53 dcook       Going to see if word list does some extra magic..
03:53 dcook       wrdl="siemon"
03:53 eythian     hmm
03:53 dcook       It's not turned on :/
03:52 eythian     fuzzy
03:52 dcook       Somehow it gets "Simon" from "siemon"
03:52 wizzyrea    \o/
03:52 dcook       Interesting... looks like Zebra might do some spell checking..
03:52 eythian     3.18.12 packages uploading
03:46 mtompset    Have a great night, #koha.
02:27 huginn      eythian: The operation succeeded.
02:27 eythian     @later tell tcohen the earliest version of Test::DBIx::Class that Koha can use requires a newer Perl version than we support.
02:19 eythian     yeah, it is a good thing to have :)
02:19 tcohen      we really prefer master to build
02:19 eythian     I'll have a look
02:19 eythian     k
02:19 tcohen      eythian, if it cannot be done, it cannot be done and we'll go the other way
02:19 eythian     bye
02:19 tcohen      bye!
02:19 tcohen      night everyone, it seems to be late already here
02:17 eythian     the deps say 0.42
02:17 eythian     maybe
02:17 eythian     hmm
02:17 * tcohen    says while git grepping the source tree to evaluate the effort
02:15 tcohen      can't we package an older lib?
02:15 eythian     I was thinking just on the packaging front
02:15 eythian     oh, yeah, that is a solution
02:14 tcohen      "Someone should add the infamous code block to some test files: if !Test::DBIx::Class then SKIP; else GO ON
02:13 eythian     it's not a solvable one, so there's little point adding a story for it :)
02:13 tcohen      that sounds like a user story to add to the newly created kanban project in taiga
02:12 eythian     yeah. I don't think it can be backported as it requires a higher version of Perl than wheezy has.
02:12 tcohen      the other option was to tweak the tests, so they skip what is needed
02:12 tcohen      :-D
02:12 tcohen      i asked for it, because of that
02:11 tcohen      eythian: I know
02:11 eythian     tcohen: master doesn't build and I don't think can be readily made to build due to lacking Test::DBIx::Class
01:58 tcohen      let's go?
01:57 eythian     ho
01:56 tcohen      hi
00:54 wizzyrea    that should apply smooth as butter.
00:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Add forgot password link to OPAC
00:54 * wizzyrea  sighs and leaves bug 8753 right here for y'all
00:00 bag         time to catch a bus home