| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:44 |
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wizzyrea |
@marc 590 |
| 00:44 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: unknown tag 590 |
| 00:44 |
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wizzyrea |
ORLY. |
| 00:48 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: @marc 590 is private note, usually equivalent to an institution-specific 500 note. |
| 00:48 |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins. |
| 00:49 |
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wizzyrea |
we don't even have it in our frameworks, it's obsolete :P |
| 00:49 |
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tcohen |
hi |
| 00:51 |
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wahanui |
what's up, tcohen |
| 00:51 |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen |
| 00:51 |
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tcohen |
hi wizzyrea |
| 00:51 |
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eythian |
tcohen: what's the bug that goes with that thing you want me to package? |
| 00:51 |
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eythian |
I'm going to try to do it today |
| 00:52 |
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tcohen |
it is a side effect of the decision to rely on DBIC to handle the DB handle |
| 00:52 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: no it's not. it's a private field. |
| 00:52 |
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tcohen |
hi jcamins! |
| 00:52 |
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tcohen |
eythian: it is related to bug 14778 |
| 00:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DBIC should create/own the DB handler |
| 00:52 |
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eythian |
ta |
| 00:53 |
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jcamins |
Which isn't to say that using it isn't in terribly poor taste. It's just not obsolete. |
| 00:53 |
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tcohen |
we need to get rid of DBI::Mock |
| 00:53 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 00:53 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: hello! |
| 00:53 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd59x.html < says obsolete, and is local use. |
| 00:53 |
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tcohen |
jcamins: remember for them is monday morning |
| 00:53 |
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tcohen |
don't be rude |
| 00:53 |
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eythian |
tcohen: afternoon already :) |
| 00:53 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 00:54 |
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* tcohen |
misses unity's dropdown calendar |
| 00:55 |
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tcohen |
with all timezones I need |
| 00:55 |
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wizzyrea |
ALL OF THEM. |
| 00:55 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 00:55 |
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wizzyrea |
koha development never sleeps. |
| 00:56 |
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tcohen |
for me is "europe", "kyle's" and "kiwis" |
| 00:56 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
| 00:56 |
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wizzyrea |
hehehe everything else is "sometime in between those" |
| 00:56 |
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tcohen |
definitely |
| 00:56 |
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tcohen |
ntw, a guy who's been in nz recently |
| 00:57 |
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tcohen |
told me kiwis is not a gentle way to refer to people? |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
dunno where he went |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
it's perfectly fine |
| 00:57 |
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* wizzyrea |
defers to actual kiwis |
| 00:57 |
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tcohen |
not wellington evidently |
| 00:57 |
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rangi |
someone was probably making it up |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
or anywhere else I've lived :) |
| 00:57 |
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tcohen |
ah, that's sure |
| 00:58 |
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rangi |
messing with tourists is a past time |
| 00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
(though I can't think of a single place I've been where people wouldn't have referred to themselves as "kiwis" |
| 00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
) |
| 00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^ |
| 00:58 |
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eythian |
it's true |
| 00:58 |
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wahanui |
I read it on the internet! |
| 00:58 |
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tcohen |
hehe |
| 00:58 |
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tcohen |
so my tweet about a global bug squashing week |
| 00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
yes tell us more. |
| 00:59 |
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eythian |
https://www.reddit.com/r/newze[…]n_in_new_zealand/ <-- this is a classic example |
| 00:59 |
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tcohen |
i've set a Trello board with bugs that *we* find important for the release |
| 00:59 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I'm sure I've talked to you before about trello |
| 00:59 |
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tcohen |
yeah, OpenBoard |
| 00:59 |
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tcohen |
hm, not, there was another one |
| 01:00 |
|
tcohen |
anyway |
| 01:00 |
|
eythian |
I use taigo.io |
| 01:00 |
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tcohen |
the point is try to do this week |
| 01:00 |
|
eythian |
err |
| 01:00 |
|
eythian |
taiga |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
taiga |
| 01:00 |
|
tcohen |
that we always talk about: working together (somehow) |
| 01:01 |
|
tcohen |
we have a complicated starman-related bug, which I expect to tackle with a hangout session with dobrica and jonathan |
| 01:01 |
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tcohen |
(we worked 3 hours on it with jonathan un-successfuly) |
| 01:01 |
|
tcohen |
and there are other things that can be problematic |
| 01:01 |
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tcohen |
the point is trying to focus on that this week |
| 01:01 |
|
tcohen |
while the rest of the enh are pushed |
| 01:02 |
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tcohen |
I've listed things, and Katrin added some too |
| 01:02 |
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tcohen |
if you want/can do something about any of those, just put your name on it |
| 01:02 |
|
tcohen |
and ask for help if needed |
| 01:02 |
|
tcohen |
or peer review, whatever |
| 01:02 |
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eythian |
you're also assuming we're all on twitter, btw :) |
| 01:03 |
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tcohen |
ah, of course |
| 01:03 |
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tcohen |
you all use trello and twitter |
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wizzyrea |
taiga* |
| 01:03 |
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tcohen |
i forgot to send an email about this |
| 01:03 |
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tcohen |
taiga.io |
| 01:03 |
|
tcohen |
damn |
| 01:04 |
|
tcohen |
yeah, there is a Koha Community project in Taiga too |
| 01:04 |
|
tcohen |
I just used what I had at hand |
| 01:04 |
|
tcohen |
anyway |
| 01:05 |
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tcohen |
if you don't have a trello user, just pass me your email and I invite you to the board |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
We were looking in to setting up a taiga instance for the community, not sure where it's at though. |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
tcohen: that's not exactly the point |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
using proprietary software to manage free software is a bad idea. |
| 01:06 |
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tcohen |
https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/ |
| 01:06 |
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tcohen |
eythian: I know |
| 01:06 |
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tcohen |
it is only for this week |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
the taiga link doesn't work, btw |
| 01:06 |
|
eythian |
(permission denied) |
| 01:07 |
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tcohen |
I'm not sure taiga will work for a project like Koha |
| 01:07 |
|
tcohen |
but, anyway |
| 01:07 |
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eythian |
dcook: I think I should have given that talk after all, recorded it, and posted it here :) |
| 01:07 |
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tcohen |
I'm sure someone will make it work |
| 01:08 |
|
tcohen |
i don't have the time to do it unfortunately |
| 01:08 |
|
tcohen |
i can't even manage people to fix their broken tests once jenkins alerts them :-D |
| 01:08 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 01:09 |
|
* tcohen |
didn't know Ian was born in cait's city |
| 01:09 |
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eythian |
presumably there's not much difference between doing it in trello vs. taiga. They do similar things, aiui |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
which Ian? |
| 01:10 |
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tcohen |
eythian: taiga is way better, but it assumes you are a team |
| 01:10 |
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tcohen |
well, nevermind didn't want to discuss the proposed workflows for each tool |
| 01:10 |
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tcohen |
eythian: Debrah's boyfriend? |
| 01:11 |
|
eythian |
who is Debrah? |
| 01:11 |
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rangi |
from debian eythian |
| 01:11 |
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eythian |
oh right |
| 01:11 |
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tcohen |
Ian Murdock |
| 01:11 |
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wizzyrea |
I always feel a bit bad for them |
| 01:12 |
|
tcohen |
Ian Murdock, Katrin Fischer, that's an important city! |
| 01:12 |
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wizzyrea |
though, I suppose it's nice that a part of what you created together outlived your togetherness? |
| 01:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
(kind of like having kids, really.) |
| 01:13 |
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cait |
huh? |
| 01:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
debian named for "debrah" and "Ian" and I guess they broke up? |
| 01:13 |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: they did |
| 01:14 |
|
tcohen |
cait: don't you ever sleep? |
| 01:14 |
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wizzyrea |
cait: go to bed |
| 01:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 01:14 |
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tcohen |
cait: I've just noticed the Debian creator was born in Konstanz |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
from the bug list, we really need help on Bug 15030 |
| 01:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15030 blocker, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Certain values in serials' items are lost on next edit |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
sorry |
| 01:16 |
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tcohen |
not that one :-D |
| 01:16 |
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tcohen |
bug 15032 |
| 01:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
| 01:17 |
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cait |
tcohen: ah strange :) I wasn't born here tho |
| 01:17 |
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tcohen |
we reproduced it, consistently, in kohadevbox |
| 01:17 |
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tcohen |
might be related to a starman bug, an integration problem (the passed options for starman in koha-plack scripts) |
| 01:18 |
|
tcohen |
the import "works" |
| 01:19 |
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tcohen |
and warn'ing the respose on each background-job.pl call (from the UI) shows good data |
| 01:19 |
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tcohen |
but there is an "Internal server error" on the last call |
| 01:19 |
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tcohen |
and we have no clue |
| 01:20 |
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tcohen |
and fear it could have consequences on another pieces of Koha |
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tcohen |
we should put libreboard in board.koha-community.org |
| 01:36 |
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tcohen |
and solve the authentication integration challenge |
| 01:36 |
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tcohen |
and that'd work for all of us I think |
| 01:40 |
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tcohen |
bye |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/92 <-- erk, libreboard actually took trello's css and checked it in to their git. That's crossing a wrong line, imo. |
| 01:45 |
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rangi |
i still like taiga better anyway |
| 01:46 |
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* dcook |
starts reading the scrollback |
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dcook |
eythian: You should've totally done that talk, recorded it, and pasted it here :p |
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eythian |
I shoulda |
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wizzyrea |
annoying thing: documentation says "this is optional" when optional step supports core functionality. |
| 03:56 |
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wizzyrea |
silly. |
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balvis |
how to find out the number of records imported from .sql file? |
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* balvis |
slaps Oak around a bit with a large fishbot |
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Oak |
how rude. |
| 06:29 |
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balvis |
sorry.wrongly clicked |
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Oak |
:) |
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balvis |
how to find out the number of records imported from .sql file? |
| 06:31 |
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Oak |
in Koha? you imported an sql file directly in the database? |
| 06:31 |
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balvis |
yes. using $ mysql -uroot -p books < koha.sql command |
| 06:35 |
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Oak |
never tried it. may be use the verbose mode http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]ion_mysql_verbose |
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Oak |
by 'record's if you mean book records (and book items) then I think one should be doing this http://manual.koha-community.o[…]en/stagemarc.html |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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Oak |
\o/ |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
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mveron |
Trello? |
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wahanui |
Trello is, like, great for this sort of thing |
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mveron |
wahanui ++ :-) |
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magnuse |
@wuner boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: downloading the Perl source |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 02, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
yay |
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mveron |
@wunder Allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 6.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 02, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
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* mveron |
counts: Still 8 C4::Dates removal bugs left to sign-off for finally having Bug 12072 |
| 09:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
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paul_p |
rangi = I'm very happy for NZ & all Blacks. (and not very happy with the lack of "french flair" we had during this RWC :\ ) |
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magnuse |
ooh, book about Dancer on kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/pr[…]2/perldancer-book |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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atheia |
[Fri Oct 30 2015] |
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atheia |
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atheia |
*** Topic for #koha: Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org |
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atheia |
| Code of conduct - |
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atheia |
http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use |
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atheia |
http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha |
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atheia |
is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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channel #koha [11:42] |
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<Francesca> happy (almost) halloween #koha, I decorated: |
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http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ [11:43] |
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<cait> very pretty :) [11:51] |
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<drojf> hi #koha |
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<drojf> huh what happened to bz? :D [12:30] |
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<drojf> heh, and we got a halloween dashboard, awesome! [12:34] |
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<drojf> rangi++ |
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<cdickinson> drojf: Francesca reskinned it and rangi pushed it up this morning |
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someone make it stop |
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<drojf> Francesca++ [12:40] |
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<liw> Francesca++ [12:41] |
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<Joubu> mveron-away: the problem on bug 15087 makes me nervous [12:57] |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15087 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , hardduedate should not be inserted as 0000-00-00 but NULL |
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atheia |
<huginn> Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15087 |
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atheia |
critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix |
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Bug 15087: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , hardduedate should not be inserted as 0000-00-00 but NULL |
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atheia |
GetHardDueDate return value |
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<atheia> magnuse: No problem, let's chat now. [13:15] |
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hello koha-people, I recently suffer a lot trying to got our sip server working. Can anybody point me to a ressource which explains setting it up and the error codes? |
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why are SRU servers hardcoded to biblio search? |
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magnuse |
because its more fun that way? |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
que tal, tcohen |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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drojf |
magnuse: not if i want to use it for authority data? :P |
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barton |
morning #koha! |
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magnuse |
ok, maybe not more fun, but more interesting |
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barton |
I have a library that has imported a bunch of marc records with humongous 500$a subfields (there are about 80 records with 500 tags exceeding 10 000 bytes). This is causing a full zebra re-index to fail. What's the maximum size for 500$a? (or perhaps, more generally, the maximum size for a marc subfield?) |
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tcohen |
barton, are you reindexing with -x? |
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barton |
tcohen, let me see... |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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nengard |
hola mt |
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nengard |
or :) |
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nengard |
hola mtompset |
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nengard: That's quite a few greetings. Are you a robot today? :) |
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nengard |
No, I'm a tired person who can't type :) |
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xarragon |
Hmm, where can I find tarballs of translations? |
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xarragon |
I found the raw .po files.. |
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xarragon: the files are on pootle, you can download .zip, not sure about .tar |
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magnuse: I just need something that the installer can handle, alternatively just manually copy it into position, |
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xarragon |
Hm, seems like you can actually just download the PO files put it into 'translator/po'. |
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nengard: A tired person is a robot. ;) |
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mtompset |
tired person? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that tired person is a robot. ;) |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget tired person |
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mtompset: I forgot tired person |
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xarragon |
Hmm, another "translation installer" script? tmpl_process3.pl? |
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xarragon |
Ah, for older versions I guess. |
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xarragon |
Ah, and the .po files is what I am supposed to feed em, not the archive. Then I am all set. |
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xarragon: yeah, you can just use the .po files |
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magnuse: Hm, seems like I have a bunch of .po's in my gitified install already |
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xarragon |
magnuse: Under '/var/koha/Koha/misc/translator/po' |
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xarragon |
magnuse: Ah, which is actually said on the wiki as well. |
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xarragon |
Well, installing additional languages was ridiculusly easy it turned out. |
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xarragon |
Props to Koha |
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tcohen |
mtompset++ |
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tcohen |
first one to assign himself a bug |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
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tcohen: Is there a way to format a date in the Template and NOT the perl code? |
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tcohen |
$KohaDate |
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tcohen |
mtompset: have you filled a bug for kohadevbox:ansible to run on windows? |
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mtompset |
No. |
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mtompset |
Like I said... I'm not touching plack. |
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mtompset |
Too hard. |
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mtompset |
Head pounding with sinus headache. |
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mtompset |
Too much else to do. :) |
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mtompset: it is not plack-only |
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tcohen |
anyway: [% USE KohaDates %] and then [% value |Â $KohaDates %] |
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I'm not touching kohadevbox (it's plack in my mind) |
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tcohen |
it is not plack: it is having a clean env for working on Koha. It is not mandatory, though. Only comfortable |
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plack is the only reason I looked at it. ;) |
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tcohen |
ok, kohadebbox == plack, got it :-P |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14773: Move help link back out of the dropdown menu <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f80dbb5f68b8fa925> / Bug 15073: Move FeeOnChangePatronCategory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d098d256830408314> / Bug 15090: Fix date filter for Suggestions management <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10904: DBRev 3.21.00.047 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]14674fc856fad7084> / Bug 10904: (QA followup) Use branch limit if either IndependentBranches or Independen... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b6461e36d4db59454> / Bug 10904: (QA followup) would like to limit patron update request management by... <http:/ |
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wilfrid |
salut tout le monde |
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Bonjour, wilfrid. :) |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14978: DBRev 3.21.00.048 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0e2aa6d56beb03066> / Bug 14978: Add unique key constraint on issues.itemnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca52ccbb37902d43c> / Bug 14589: Adjust authorities_merge_ajax and replace some indirect syntax <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi |
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xarragon |
Hmm, when I install languages it seems like the template files are.. copied from en and written to new files? |
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xarragon |
'en' being the default language.. Because now i all of a sudden have multiple copies of my new template file I was working on, which was a bit confusing. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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I might alone in this, but this one http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 seems kind of like a serious issue in master |
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huginn |
Bug 15091: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed |
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nengard_cafe |
and I'm not sure how to fix it |
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mtompset |
@later tell tcohen sudo apt-get install linux-headers* -- back to failed ansible. |
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mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron-away |
Good evening or daytime #koha |
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nengard_cafe |
@later tell tcohen I might alone in this, but this one http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 seems kind of like a serious issue in master |
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nengard_cafe: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
Bug 15091: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed |
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magnuse |
xarragon: right you are running something like "koha-translate -i nb-NO" creates a new set of translated templates |
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magnuse |
s/are/are\./ |
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tcohen |
@later tell Joubu please check 5b521eb394771ee305777f0b44098be5fdd11cc7 broke t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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* cait |
waves |
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* wnickc |
waves |
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waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
tcohen: I'm back. :) |
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rangi |
morning |
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nengard |
afternoon :) |
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cait |
evening |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell tcohen I have something for you to play with at taiga.koha-community.org, if you ever have a minute ever again. :) |
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wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
mtompset ++ for commenting on Bug 14946 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl |
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mtompset |
Thanks. |
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mtompset |
Ah, you have an update. |
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mtompset |
I'll look at it later. :) |
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mveron |
Great :-) |
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mveron |
nengard: Thanks for testing Bug 14948 :-) - I re-tested and I could not reproduce your issue (after a full browser reload). |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Display amounts right aligned in tables on patron pages |
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nengard |
maybe it was a cache issue - let me try again |
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mveron |
Thanks :-) |
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nengard |
mveron signed off :) |
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nengard |
sorry about that |
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mveron |
nengard: No problem :-) Thanks for signing off. |
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pianohacker |
hi |
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wahanui |
hola, pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi |
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hi |
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eythian |
no wahanui, trello is frowned upon. |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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wizzyrea |
hm, is there a reason not to have the daemon be the default real time index update method? |
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pianohacker |
rumor in these parts is that it used to be buggy, may be better now |
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wizzyrea |
did "these parts" file a bug for the issues? |
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cait |
i think that is the old daemon |
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cait |
pianohacker thinks about |
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cait |
not the new one |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: not sure :) |
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cait |
and... ignore me if i don't make sense :) long day here |
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pianohacker |
potato potato potato |
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rangi |
i haven't heard any issues with the new daemon, it used to be hard to install, but now it's packaged, not a problem |
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eythian |
what's the third one? |
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wahanui |
i heard the third one was opaque.. did you miss out streetaddress because it should be deleted.. or because you forgot to set it |
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wizzyrea |
just wondering if we should switch fully over to it |
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wizzyrea |
for new installs. |
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pianohacker |
good way to work out any remaining bugs |
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rangi |
i think it will become the default at some point |
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rangi |
prolly 3.24 |
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nengard |
maybe 3.24 can be 4.0? this numbers is getting silly |
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nengard |
I had someone tell me they were on 3.2 the other day |
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wizzyrea |
no 4. |
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nengard |
meaning 3.20 |
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nengard |
why not 4 wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
4 is confusing for people who use not-koha |
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nengard |
then 24 |
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nengard |
I don't care as long as it's not 3.xx anymore |
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nengard |
I'm not picky about what it is as long as it's no 3.xx |
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nengard |
:) |
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is sorta pro dated releases, but it gets tricky having multiple release streams |
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pianohacker |
we could always just rename Koha to C4 and start a new set of versions |
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nengard |
Cute names like debian or android |
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nengard |
we can go with ice cream flavors :) hehe |
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pianohacker |
I would love named versions! |
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nengard |
hush pianohacker |
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nengard |
to the c4 thing |
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nengard |
not the named thing |
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nengard |
hehe |
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rangi |
that only works for the major version |
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nengard |
true |
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nengard |
i go back to numbers |
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nengard |
just not 3.x numbers :) hehe |
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pianohacker |
koha rocky road point 4 |
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nengard |
LOL |
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nengard |
koha mint chip 5 |
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rangi |
and we do about 18 times as many minor versions as we do major versions |
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rangi |
for every release |
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pianohacker |
chrome/firefox style versioning? |
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eythian |
tbh, people are going to get confused about version numbers no matter what |
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pianohacker |
aka delete the major version |
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wizzyrea |
16.5 (for y16m5) and 16.11 (for y16m11) for may and novermber releases |
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nengard |
oooo |
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wizzyrea |
novermber |
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wizzyrea |
that is not fight |
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nengard |
meme |
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nengard |
hehe |
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pianohacker |
yeah, eythian, but we have the option of switching before we get as far as linux 2 did :) |
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wizzyrea |
nor right. |
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nengard |
neither of us can type |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: you'll have to adapt that for minors, but that's perhaps not a biggie |
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wizzyrea |
add a 3rd number? |
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pianohacker |
3.24.0.9.6.2 |
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wizzyrea |
start minors at 0, like we do now is what I'd do if it were me and I had decided to use that scheme. |
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pianohacker |
windows style versioning |
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wizzyrea |
it's not me. and we'll never decide. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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rangi |
rm just changes the number |
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rangi |
easiest way |
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wahanui |
rumour has it easiest way is probably to reload the MARC frameworks |
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rangi |
there is no need to have a vote on it |
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wizzyrea |
agreedf. |
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wizzyrea |
good lord what is wrong with my fingers today |
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rangi |
ultimately its about the least important thing |
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cait |
would date based be like for ubuntu? |
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wizzyrea |
it would be like ubuntu, and mahara |
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wizzyrea |
and probably heaps others. |
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cait |
hm sounds okto me |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell francesca I like the green on bugzilla it's cheerful :) |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
Good night / daytime #koha |
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misilot |
we should use semver :) |
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misilot |
http://semver.org/ |
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eythian |
misilot: what defines an API on a product that's primarily used by people? |
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eythian |
> Software using Semantic Versioning MUST declare a public API. This API could be declared in the code itself or exist strictly in documentation. However it is done, it should be precise and comprehensive. |
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eythian |
that would be ... difficult |
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misilot |
eythian: maybe. unfortunately i have to run to class |
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wizzyrea |
partly we haven't made any changes that feel monumental enough to change our major version |
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wizzyrea |
surely we've made lots of changes |
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wizzyrea |
elasticsearch would be a good one |
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cait |
i think theproblem with 4... is that someone else has used those |
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wizzyrea |
oh we're not going to use 4 |
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wizzyrea |
4 is right out. |
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wizzyrea |
better to skip to something outrageous like the year :) |
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cait |
yah |
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eythian |
though, I haven't seen anyone asking about a 4 for a while. |
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wizzyrea |
it is I think going the way of the dodo |
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eythian |
skipping it is still nicer, as it'll reduce the chance of people thinking that that is the latest version because of someone else playing silly buggers with numbers. |
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wizzyrea |
"in the game of things-that-are-not-koha survivor, real koha always outlasts." |
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pianohacker |
the whole API discussion for semver seems much more tuned to libraries (.so's) than end-user software |
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eythian |
yeah |
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eythian |
that's my impression too |
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pianohacker |
and the sort of things that would make us bump a major are much more along the lines of features / new ways of doing things (elastic, pg support, etc.) than API changes |
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rangi |
i reckon date is the easiest |
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rangi |
and it makes the point |
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rangi |
you're running old shit |
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wizzyrea |
yeah |
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rangi |
which numbers don't seem to convey |
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* cait |
agrees and goes to sleep |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I like about it you can immediately say "that's 2 years old" |
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rangi |
yep |
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dcook |
true true |
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* dcook |
wondered about the not-Koha 4 thing |
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rangi |
its gone |
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rangi |
give it a year or 2 to fade, but its bloviation now |
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rangi |
to bloviate : talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way. |
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rangi |
fits well |
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wizzyrea |
keeke |
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eythian |
http://downforeveryoneorjustme[…]//www.liblime.com <-- can't look up the actual name |
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cait |
huh |
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eythian |
oh, it's just really slow |
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rangi |
that site hasnt been updated in months, maybe years |
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cait |
i can't get to it |
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cait |
nor the other.... k.org |
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rangi |
its all over at the main site, which doesnt even list koha anymore |
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pianohacker |
koha.org still is up, and was recently renewed unfortunately :/ |
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pianohacker |
was due to expire end of next month |
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rangi |
yep, they will keep it out of spite im sure |
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cait |
hm might be something with the hotel wifi |
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rangi |
just no longer working on the software |
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eythian |
oh, it's probably on autorenew |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
Ah, so they re-named all their stuff |
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rangi |
yup |
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dcook |
Awesome |
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dcook |
Interesting that the URL says kohalibrary, of course |
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dcook |
I see what you mean about a few years though |
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eythian |
they still talk about koha on some of their sites |
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eythian |
it's not been a very complete renaming |
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dcook |
I imagine they might have to keep Koha as a name for a little while |
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rangi |
most of those dont seem to have been updated in months/years |
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rangi |
they have quotes from people who arent even their customers anymore |
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dcook |
I think there were some from last month |
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eythian |
yeah, they probably have forgotten about them |
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eythian |
they had a user's group a few days ago though |
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rangi |
if you look at the pdf on their main site, you'll see that they have moved are moving things to bloviation |
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eythian |
where they showed a preview of EDS integration :) |
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rangi |
(the list of clients using it) |
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eythian |
oh, the users group is coming up next week. |
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eythian |
someone should register to attend by teleconference :D |
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eythian |
oh, their CMS is called "knowvation." Now I see their theme. |
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eythian |
that's also an awkward sounding name |
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Francesca |
hey eythian you're back! |
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eythian |
and better than ever. |
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Francesca |
how was wherever you were? |
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eythian |
Hobart and Sydney. They were pretty good. |
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