Time Nick Message 00:00 bag time to catch a bus home 00:54 * wizzyrea sighs and leaves bug 8753 right here for y'all 00:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Add forgot password link to OPAC 00:54 wizzyrea that should apply smooth as butter. 01:56 tcohen hi 01:57 eythian ho 01:58 tcohen let's go? 02:11 eythian tcohen: master doesn't build and I don't think can be readily made to build due to lacking Test::DBIx::Class 02:11 tcohen eythian: I know 02:12 tcohen i asked for it, because of that 02:12 tcohen :-D 02:12 tcohen the other option was to tweak the tests, so they skip what is needed 02:12 eythian yeah. I don't think it can be backported as it requires a higher version of Perl than wheezy has. 02:13 tcohen that sounds like a user story to add to the newly created kanban project in taiga 02:13 eythian it's not a solvable one, so there's little point adding a story for it :) 02:14 tcohen "Someone should add the infamous code block to some test files: if !Test::DBIx::Class then SKIP; else GO ON 02:15 eythian oh, yeah, that is a solution 02:15 eythian I was thinking just on the packaging front 02:15 tcohen can't we package an older lib? 02:17 * tcohen says while git grepping the source tree to evaluate the effort 02:17 eythian hmm 02:17 eythian maybe 02:17 eythian the deps say 0.42 02:19 tcohen night everyone, it seems to be late already here 02:19 tcohen bye! 02:19 eythian bye 02:19 tcohen eythian, if it cannot be done, it cannot be done and we'll go the other way 02:19 eythian k 02:19 eythian I'll have a look 02:19 tcohen we really prefer master to build 02:19 eythian yeah, it is a good thing to have :) 02:27 eythian @later tell tcohen the earliest version of Test::DBIx::Class that Koha can use requires a newer Perl version than we support. 02:27 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 03:46 mtompset Have a great night, #koha. 03:52 eythian 3.18.12 packages uploading 03:52 dcook Interesting... looks like Zebra might do some spell checking.. 03:52 wizzyrea \o/ 03:52 dcook Somehow it gets "Simon" from "siemon" 03:52 eythian fuzzy 03:53 dcook It's not turned on :/ 03:53 eythian hmm 03:53 dcook wrdl="siemon" 03:53 dcook Going to see if word list does some extra magic.. 03:54 dcook Hmm 03:54 dcook For the Truncation attribute, No Truncation is the default. Left Truncation is not supported. Process # in 03:54 dcook search term is supported, as is Regxp-1. Regxp-2 enables the fault-tolerant (fuzzy) search. As a default, 03:54 dcook a single error (deletion, insertion, replacement) is accepted when terms are matched against the register 03:54 dcook contents. 03:54 wahanui contents are sensible. However, it's basically a text file with lots of angle braces. 03:55 dcook (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebra.pdf) 03:55 eythian ah yep 03:55 dcook That's interesting 03:55 dcook I'm not sure I have an opinion for or against it 03:56 eythian ES can do it, but it's something you have to turn on 03:56 dcook I'm thinking I'd like it more if it were something you had to turn on 03:56 eythian you must be able to turn it off, or exact searches will become complicated. 03:57 dcook I imagine exact searches might be an exception? 03:57 eythian possibly 03:57 dcook An exact search on that one shows 0 results as expected 03:58 dcook Hmm 03:58 eythian might just be the wrdl 03:58 dcook But so does wrdl,ext="simon" 03:58 dcook That's... interesting 03:58 eythian pronounced wordle 03:58 dcook I love saying worldle 03:58 dcook haha 03:58 dcook wordle* 03:59 dcook Ahhh... "ext" changes it from a wrdl to a phr I think 03:59 dcook and to a complete field.. 03:59 dcook Which apparently only works for phr anyway 03:59 eythian http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=44313 <-- quite a lot of digging to work out that the rest api isn't going to be using the new swagger2 stuff any time soon. 04:01 dcook So CPAN::Meta::Check 0.009 requires >= Perl 5.17.1? 04:01 dcook And I assume the default in Jessie (or Wheezy) is 5.14.2? 04:01 eythian yeah 04:01 eythian wheezy 04:02 dcook That seems pretty conclusive to me 04:02 dcook Also, I didn't even know IO::Socket::IP was a thing 04:02 dcook I thought it was just IO::Socket::INET 04:02 eythian neither, but mojo wouldn't build without it 04:03 dcook Data for 2014-09-14 04:03 dcook IO::Socket::IP was first released with perl v5.19.8 04:03 dcook Neato burrito 04:03 eythian oh actually 04:03 eythian that's interesting 04:03 eythian I might not have stepped the versions back enough 04:04 eythian maybe I can make it work after all 04:04 dcook \o/ 04:04 eythian I really wish I could make pbuilder use its output directory as a repository. 04:05 eythian so if I'm working backwards along a tree, I don't have to put things into a repo and update etc. 04:06 dcook Alas, over my head at this point :( 04:06 dcook One of these days I'll try out pbuilder 04:07 dcook Actually, I think I might understand.. 04:08 eythian https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building_With_Local_Packages <-- this is what you have to do to make it work :/ 07:06 drojf morning 07:43 reiveune hello 07:47 magnuse bonjour! 07:47 magnuse @wunder boo 07:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 07:48 drojf hei magnuse 07:48 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:48 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 07:50 magnuse hah! ;-) 07:50 drojf i wish i had not checked that 07:50 drojf :D 07:51 drojf i got the sun shining right in my face. i did not expect it to be that cold outside 07:54 alex_a bonjour 07:56 magnuse drojf: you have more sun than me, if that is any consolation 07:56 magnuse hiya alex_a 07:56 drojf magnuse: as long as i don't leave the house, i have quite nice weather here :) 07:59 alex_a hello magnuse 07:59 magnuse drojf: nice! 09:20 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 09:21 Francesca evening 09:22 * andreashm waves 09:29 * Francesca waves back 09:30 mveron @wunder Basel 09:30 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 09:31 * andreashm tried to apply bug 12772 but failed. It has bug 13624 as a dependency... I applied that first but still got an error applying 12772. Am I doing it right or is there another workflow I should use? 09:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool 09:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Passed QA , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types 09:31 magnuse andreashm: what was the error? 09:31 andreashm Hi Francesca and mveron 09:31 Francesca sup 09:31 drojf hello again 09:32 andreashm magnuse: Ye old "Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge" 09:32 andreashm drojf, magnuse: hello! 09:32 drojf hi andreashm 09:33 andreashm mveron: you from Switzerland? 09:33 mveron andreashm: Yes, the land of the dd.mm.yyyy date format :-) 09:34 drojf hi mveron 09:34 andreashm mveron: haha 09:34 mveron andreashm: and the chocolate... 09:34 wahanui reiveune ate them all 09:34 mveron hi drojf 09:34 reiveune :p 09:34 andreashm mveron: what's the status of Koha in Switzerland? Any libraries using it? 09:35 * andreashm would like some chocolate 09:35 * andreashm is aksing since he is moving to Switzerland in march (most likely) 09:36 mveron andreashm: Not to much... And welcome to Switzerland, where do you plan to live? 09:37 drojf why are you moving to switzerland? for the chocolate? :) 09:38 andreashm mveron: Sion. the french part. 09:38 andreashm drojf: of course! 09:38 andreashm no, but my wife is going there for a reaserch-position (post doc) 09:40 mveron andreashm: It is nice there. I live in Allschwil near Basel (15 mn with the tramway to downtown Basel). 09:41 Francesca ohh moving 09:41 Francesca exciting! 09:44 andreashm I've been is Basel before. But never Sion. Going there first time in december to check it out. 09:46 andreashm Francesca: exciting and scary! 09:46 Francesca lol 09:46 drojf andreashm: so you need a new koha library to work at? or are you going to be a remote librarian? :) 09:46 Francesca Its late here so night #koha 09:47 magnuse andreashm: wow, exciting! 09:50 mveron andreashm: Some survival tipps: 09:50 mveron Oertig-Davidson, Margaret: Beyond Chocolate. Understanding Swiss Culture ISBN 978-3-905252-21-7 09:50 mveron Haver, Gianni; Mix & Remix: Swissness in a Nutshell: ISBN 978-3-905252-65-1 09:51 andreashm drojf: remote librarian. to start with at least. and on parental leave part time. 09:51 andreashm mveron: oh, thanks! 09:52 magnuse wow, that sounds awesome 09:53 andreashm magnuse: I hope so. 09:54 andreashm Anyone from Switzerland (or around) that has actually been to Sion? 09:54 drojf andreashm: sweden is awesome. i don't think that would be possible to do over here 09:55 andreashm drojf: Sweden is good in many ways yes (and bad in some) 09:57 * magnuse has heard "Iron Lion Zion" by B. Marley, but is not sure that counts 09:57 andreashm magnuse: great help, as usual! :) 10:01 magnuse :-) 10:01 magnuse my pleasure 10:07 andreashm any thought on my previous question, on what workflow I should have when applying a bug that has another bug as a dependancy? Was I correct in applying the dependecy first and then trying to add the bug in question (in the same branch)? 10:08 drojf andreashm: that is what i usually do 10:09 andreashm hum, might be an issue with the bug then (bug 12772) 10:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool 10:12 drojf andreashm: in what way dioes it not work? you can't apply the patches? or the feature does nor work? 10:12 andreashm can't apply the patch 10:12 paul_p andreashm about koha in switzerland: we have some customers in Lausanne. 10:12 andreashm 3-way merge problem 10:13 andreashm paul_p: oh cool, thanks. that's close to where I'll be living 10:13 drojf you have to resolve the conflicts then. some underlying code in master changed, probably database and maybe some more. you should get a message what file to fix 10:14 drojf or get the people working on the bugs to rebase 10:15 andreashm drojf: they'll have to rebase I guess... seems to be an issue with atomicupdate I just noticed. 11:45 * fridolin releasing last 3.14.x version 11:45 fridolin bye bye pie 11:49 atheia fridolin: onto tau next :-) 11:57 fridolin atheia: well found ;D 12:41 tcohen morning 12:41 magnuse kia ora tcohen 12:42 tcohen hi magnuse 12:56 tcohen @later tell cait urgent RM <-> QAM meeting needed 12:56 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:11 misilot I have a question about bug 12426. I read through it but not sure if it will allow resending of *sent* messages or not? 13:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account 13:12 misilot i think it can only do failed messages, is that correct? 14:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14978: (obsessive followup) fix upgrade text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1517301c38e3414c984ac09c3a072420eb8a9fdc> 15:30 mveron tcohen: Trello: I have an account - how to join? 15:31 mveron ...and hi :-) 15:50 nengard hola all - updating the manual and looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 ... it says to create a directory in the test plan - does that mean I need to document that sys admins need to create a folder? or is it done in the upgrade? 15:50 huginn 04Bug 6874: new feature, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Attach files to bibliographic records 16:12 drojf do we know if elasticsearch and plack do get along at the moment? 16:13 bgkriegel hi nengard, I think the path must be created and set in config file by sys admins 16:18 nengard okay dokey bgkriegel I'll go and and note that in the manual 16:18 mveron bgkriegel: Thanks for adding me to trello :-) 16:36 drojf in answer to my question: looks like they do 17:05 tcohen mveron 17:05 tcohen what's your trello user?] 17:06 mveron mveron - I'm already added by bgkriegel :-) 17:06 bgkriegel yeah :) 17:06 tcohen awesome :-D 17:07 tcohen thanks bgkriegel 17:07 bgkriegel np :) 17:07 tcohen please, add yourselves to the card you are taking care 17:07 tcohen (while you are on it) 17:07 reiveune bye 17:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14821: Do not list not returned items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8122df1f8788cbd695e06aa4c1acfa345da8cadc> 17:16 pianohacker Joubu++ 17:16 pianohacker much needed commit 18:47 * tcohen is scared about t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t failures 18:49 pianohacker tcohen: have a jenkins link? 18:50 tcohen i can consistently reproduce them in kohadevbox 18:50 tcohen with the sample data 18:51 rangi broken test, or broken report? (to be fair i've never trusted that GetTopIssues 18:53 rangi passes here tho 18:53 tcohen try it a couple times 18:53 rangi passed 4 18:54 tcohen ah 18:54 tcohen i'm running prove -r t/db_dependent/Circulation/* 18:54 rangi ahh so not just that one 18:55 tcohen side effects 18:55 wahanui side effects are worse tha bad display? 18:55 rangi yeah one of the other tests must be the actual problem 18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/AnonymiseIssueHistory.t .. ok 18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckIfIssuedToPatron.t .. ok 18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckValidBarcode.t ...... ok 18:55 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetIssues.t .............. ok 18:55 tcohen one of them :-D 18:55 rangi cos now perl t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t 18:55 rangi fails 18:56 rangi so one of the ones that runs before it, doesn't clean up 18:57 rangi GetIssues.t 18:57 rangi no rollback 18:58 rangi its either it 18:58 rangi or Anonymise 18:59 rangi because that uses TestBuilder 18:59 rangi and I dont trust it 19:00 tcohen why not? 19:00 rangi it's opaque and it breaks randomly on jenkins 19:00 tcohen i know it is weird 19:01 rangi and i think it hides lots of how koha does things, and i think writing tests, you should know how koha does things 19:02 rangi id try adding the rollback to GetIssues.t first, and clean the db 19:02 rangi and see if it fixes it, (the other 2 tests both rollback) 19:03 tcohen i think there is something related to the adoption of DBIC's handler 19:03 rangi probably 19:03 tcohen and my fear is that the failure comes from _new_koha_item saying it is not passed a biblioitemnumber... 19:04 rangi something is definitely messing up the database though 19:04 tcohen which is supposed to have been generated from AddBiblio... 19:04 rangi well if people mess up itemtypes etc 19:04 rangi that could well fail 19:04 rangi i think we were banking on the side effect of DBI not committing 19:05 tcohen that's probably the cause 19:05 rangi thats my guess anyway 19:07 tcohen ah 19:07 tcohen i was wrong 19:07 tcohen it comes from the previous run, not the previous tests 19:08 * tcohen suspects TooMany.t 19:08 rangi ahh so could be any of the other tests 19:08 tcohen all of you actually 19:08 tcohen .-P 19:08 rangi yeah, id still do an explicit rollback 19:08 tcohen but there's a warning 19:08 rangi just because, i always prefer explicit to implicit 19:08 tcohen yes, I've added explicit everywhere I could 19:08 rangi cool 19:09 tcohen I even filled a bug + patch for removing transaction handling from within testbuilder 19:09 tcohen so it is just a silly random data generator, and nothing more 19:09 rangi nice 19:10 tcohen we need to ship a script to load all default data 19:10 rangi i hope to get some time this week to test, but next week is NZ library conference, and ive been away for 5 weeks so, so much to catch up on 19:10 * tcohen thinks bisecting would be even easier 19:10 rangi yes, that would be good 19:10 tcohen oh noes rangi! 19:11 rangi i did test one thing tho 19:12 tcohen heeh 19:13 bag morning 19:13 rangi hi bag 19:14 tcohen rangi: tests started failing randomly, when I added the -s switch to prove 19:14 bag heya rangi 19:14 tcohen to catch side effects 19:14 tcohen hi bag 19:14 bag heya tcohen 19:14 tcohen and we did :-/ 19:14 rangi tcohen: maybe that is a good thing for the academy students this year 19:14 rangi run tests with -s, try and track down the side effects 19:15 bag nengard make a note of that too for your future classes ^^^ 19:15 bag ah she’s at lunch - I will email her 19:20 tcohen i put my name for maintaining jenkins 19:20 tcohen btw 19:20 rangi cool tcohen 19:21 tcohen the point is to spend some time on polishing *how* we use it 19:21 rangi i put my name for nothing 19:21 rangi for the first time ever 19:21 rangi hehe 19:21 tcohen so it even makes sense 19:21 tcohen rangi: congrats 19:22 rangi yeah, id like to see us get into doing some js side tests too, i know angular etc has tools to do all that 19:25 rangi ohhh this is really good news 19:25 tcohen ??? 19:26 rangi https://gnupg.org/blog/20151103-gnupg-in-october.html 19:26 rangi TOFU and DANE 19:26 rangi make gpg a lot more usable 19:36 jwellner Hey JesseM - I just got a bit of spam from Cindy asking to open a PDF. It's spam, but you may want to investigate. 19:36 jwellner Probably some malware on her machine or account compromised. 19:36 JesseM jwellner yes it is Spam. Please do not open that email. 19:36 JesseM She is looking in to that right now 19:36 jwellner Our content filter blocked any opening of it. 19:37 JesseM Good 19:39 jwellner Thanks much! Just wanted to let you know 19:45 JesseM Thank you jwellner 19:47 tcohen bye #koha 19:48 rangi fwiw i got it too, i suspect everyone in the address book did 19:49 rangi JesseM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 <-- if you want your boys to see a traditional haka 19:52 bag JesseM that haka is awesome - you should show that to cole and ty 19:52 JesseM Cole is watching it right now with me 19:52 JesseM :) 19:52 bag awesome 19:52 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag 19:52 bag nice 19:53 JesseM thanks rangi 19:53 rangi something like that was often enough to end a battle before it started 19:53 bag yeah I can imagine 19:54 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5R-0l7wdY <-- and of course this is worth watching again ;) 19:55 JesseM i believe that rangi. Past few days my son has went up to random people and asked them if they saw the All Blacks win! :) 19:55 rangi hehe 19:57 rangi all the tries were scored by players who play for wellington 19:58 JesseM You were up pretty early that morning to watch that match 19:58 rangi yup 19:58 rangi http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11539326 <-- beauden barret is a pretty nice guy too 19:59 JesseM I saw that the security guard tackled that kid 19:59 rangi yeah 19:59 rangi that was a bit OTT 20:00 JesseM very much so 20:08 cbrannon Question about the Koha search header. Are all the search tabs rendered as displayed before they are hidden, or are they initially rendered hidden? 20:12 pianohacker initially displayed then hidden, I believe, cbrannon 20:12 pianohacker you can see it on slow servers :) 20:12 cbrannon Would it break anything to initially render all but the first as hidden? 20:13 pianohacker cbrannon: I'm not certain, but I don't think so. Why? 20:14 cbrannon Cause it drives me nuts to watch all the boxes render and then hide. Feels kinda sloppy. 20:14 cbrannon I'm not sure what the point of displaying them and then hidding them is. 20:15 cbrannon :-| 20:15 pianohacker cbrannon: definitely agree, that's a UI polish thing that bugs me too 20:16 pianohacker cbrannon: I'd highly encourage poking an existing bug or filing an existing one 20:16 cbrannon :) 20:17 pianohacker you doing so would probably have more umph than me, I'm a bit picky and out in the woods when it comes to UI sometimes :) 20:17 cbrannon I'll see about doing that this afternoon. Thanks for the input. 20:30 wizzyrea mveron++ 20:31 mveron wizzyrea: Thanks :-) 20:31 wizzyrea thank you for having a look at that passwords patch set 20:32 wizzyrea it's every bit as important as any feature we add to the staff client 20:42 * cait wave 20:42 cait s 20:43 rangi hi cait 20:43 cait hi rangi :) 20:51 Francesca morning 20:52 cait morning Francesca :) 20:54 Francesca hey cait! sup 20:54 cait : 20:54 cait :) 20:56 mveron nengard: Bug 15091 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed 20:57 nengard yup? 20:57 nengard oh - needs signoff 20:57 nengard WOOO HOO - okay lookinig now 20:57 mveron I hope it addresses your concerns... 20:57 cait mveron++ :) 20:57 mveron Hi cait :-) 20:57 cait you are awesome :) 20:58 mveron ...and hi everybody 20:58 mveron Everybody ++ 20:59 nengard mveron it still doesn't say that the items were not checked out - it says that the patron has a debt, but not that the items weren't checked out - it's confusing 20:59 nengard mveron http://screencast.com/t/OxERq7NhJ3bY 21:00 tcohen mveron++ 21:01 tcohen hi cait! 21:01 cait hi :) 21:01 cait back home 21:01 cait you wanted to talk? 21:01 mveron nengard: I will try to find the place where I can put a "Not checked out" 21:01 cait i haven't read the bug mail yet - be warned :) 21:02 cait mveron: maybe if the problem is the fine, it coudl show it on top? 21:02 nengard mveron if i get checkboxes http://screencast.com/t/2AEmTAgoqhY and then click the button I see what's okay http://screencast.com/t/j5J00qU5E but not that the other failed per se 21:02 cait might not even need to try all items then 21:02 nengard I'd just change the warning to 'no checked out' or 'checkout failed' and then the reason 21:02 nengard it's fine with me 21:02 cait ah ok, ignore me... i think i need to take a closer look at the feature 21:02 nengard hehe 21:02 cait not sure how it works yet 21:02 cait what nengard says sounds good :) 21:03 nengard :) 21:03 * mveron dives into the code 21:03 nengard mveron++ 21:07 * mveron could get rich if the test patron would pay all his fines... 21:14 mveron nengard: I added "Not checked out". What do you think? 21:15 nengard testing again now 21:17 nengard MUCH BETTER 21:17 cait mveron: heh 21:18 nengard bug 15091 21:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed 21:19 nengard I think a future improvement is to make it look more friendly - but for now it's 100% clear what's going on 21:19 nengard mveron++ 21:19 nengard again :) hehe 21:20 cait i wanna see... :) 21:20 nengard then i guess you should be the one to qa it :) hehe 21:20 cait oh 21:20 cait good point 21:20 wahanui I know! The blade went right through that child! 21:21 mveron nengard: Yes, there could be some improvements. E.g. one could compare the very first batch with the outcome after the confirmation. But that would be a bigger task. 21:21 cait wahanui! 21:21 wahanui i heard i was rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass 21:21 nengard I agree mveron this is enough to make it useable and then we can make it prettier 21:23 mveron Small steps in usability lead to big steps in kohaity 21:24 tcohen nengard: have you looked at patron card creator and label creator for the manual? 21:28 wizzyrea yeah, that's pretty important 21:28 nengard not yet - it's on my list 21:28 wizzyrea oh, tcohen 21:28 wizzyrea or anybody really 21:28 wizzyrea I noticed, I guess with the fontawesome stuff? that the buttons there went stupid and I had a patch to put them right 21:28 nengard I have about 20 more things to document - this is a big upgrade 21:29 wizzyrea bug 15112 21:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator 21:29 tcohen wizzyrea: fill abug 21:29 tcohen ah, that 21:29 wahanui ah, that is probably just to say that everything should be on one line 21:31 cait wizzyrea: hm, thought khall's follow up had fixed it 21:31 wizzyrea it didn't as of yesterday :/ 21:32 wizzyrea which followup? 21:33 tcohen efa2c33c870b763f4af8198e10eb97a154189200 21:33 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=44014 21:34 wizzyrea mm no 21:34 wizzyrea he changed the icons 21:34 wizzyrea but doing that made them not fit in the table 21:34 wizzyrea so they stack 21:34 wizzyrea which is not so pretty 21:34 cait gah. 21:35 cait can you fix it? 21:35 wizzyrea it's on that patch for 15112 21:35 wizzyrea :) 21:35 cait shoudl we add it to trello? 21:35 cait bug 15112 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator 21:35 wizzyrea I could split it out I suppose 21:35 cait i have added it 21:36 cait to the nso ist 21:36 cait nso list 21:36 wahanui nso list is finally down a bit :) 21:36 cait i wish wahanui... 21:36 cait we still need some plack experts for fixing problems 21:36 cait and testers for the dates patches too 21:43 wizzyrea hm 21:52 mveron testers for the dates patches ++ 21:52 mveron :-) 21:53 eythian hi 21:53 wahanui hey, eythian 21:53 cait hi eythian :) 21:53 cait eythian++ too 21:54 cait saw you are workingon the packages :) 21:54 tcohen lazy eythian, who doesn't want to package newer perl version for wheezy 21:54 pianohacker so lazy 21:54 eythian yeah 21:54 eythian guilty as charged 22:42 Francesca hey eythian was the weather in aussie nicer than here? 22:42 eythian sydney was too hot, Hobart was about wellington-like 22:42 eythian but, not today-wellington 22:43 Francesca so windy but not freezing 22:44 eythian well, not as windy either 22:44 eythian but not really hot like sydney 22:45 Francesca @wunder wlg 22:45 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 22:45 wizzyrea that is too cold for november. 22:45 Francesca its actually sad 22:45 Francesca the weather is returning us to winter 22:49 dcook Hobart was pretty nice :) 22:49 * mveron did some digging on Bug 15098 and needs feedback 22:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group 22:51 mveron Oh, it's getting late, almost a new day. 22:51 dcook It's only 9:51am 22:51 dcook It is a new day :D 22:52 mveron Hmm, it seems that somebody invented time zones... I have 11:51 pm.... 22:52 Francesca and I have 11.52 am 22:52 mveron Anyway, good night / daytime everybody :-) 22:52 dcook Well, we can't all be right :p 22:52 dcook night mveron 22:52 Francesca bye mveron 22:53 eythian dcook: speak for yourself ;) 22:53 * mveron hopes for magical sign-offs for the C4:Dates removal bugs while sleeping :-) 22:54 pianohacker mveron: what's the count? 22:54 mveron pianohacker: 8 to sign off... 22:54 cait hm i think i don' tunderstand what is meant in bug 15119? 22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hide search header text boxes on render 22:55 * mveron waves... 22:55 pianohacker bye 22:55 dcook [off] I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QamU4-8NUw 22:56 eythian wahanui: hippies is <reply>Not allowed! http://www.grandysabroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015-09-20-12.57.22-759x1024.jpg 22:56 wahanui OK, eythian. 22:56 pianohacker cait: if you watch the loading of some pages in the staff client on a slow connection/server, you can see the three different search boxes briefly appear before the default one is the only one shown 22:57 cait oh 22:57 cait i see 23:01 wizzyrea yeah I've seen things like that, often it has things loading in document.ready when they don't need to be 23:02 pianohacker document.ready or window.load? 23:10 wizzyrea document.ready, in the case I'm thinking of 23:11 wizzyrea (I have no idea what the case is here) 23:15 wizzyrea it seems most pronounced when there's a proxy