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wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEC4nZ-yga8 |
| 02:00 |
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tcohen |
excellent song! |
| 02:00 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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* tcohen |
loves bjork |
| 02:00 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah same |
| 02:00 |
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wizzyrea |
just very quiet in here :) |
| 02:02 |
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tcohen |
who would start another big riot? |
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wizzyrea |
bjork, of course :D |
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eythian |
I kinda went off björk when I heard her music. |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, that doesn't seem like it would be your thing so much. |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 02:04 |
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wizzyrea |
I had a roommate in uni that was simply obsessed with bjork. Since she was one of my favourite people ever, I ended up rather liking bjork. |
| 02:05 |
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tcohen |
hahahaha |
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ibeardslee |
she (well as part of sugarcubes?) had a song I quite liked .. but damned if I can work out what it was. |
| 02:08 |
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wizzyrea |
what was it about? |
| 02:09 |
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wizzyrea |
i.e. what do you remember about it |
| 02:11 |
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tcohen |
human behaviour |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/11013 <-- interesting stuff on Catmandu |
| 02:56 |
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wizzyrea |
hey I know that person from twitter. |
| 03:09 |
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mtj |
. |
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mtj |
oops |
| 03:12 |
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mtj |
ibeardslee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s-It |
| 03:12 |
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mtj |
^ thats a really great sugarcubes album |
| 03:13 |
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mtj |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]SQWAFJTZDnZX1RxYp |
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mveron |
Good morning / daytime #koha |
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ashimema |
. |
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cait |
oh martin |
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cait |
ashimema: ... |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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eythian |
well, I think I have roughly 1/4th of my talk written |
| 06:34 |
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eythian |
time to go home |
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cait |
later eythian |
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magnuse |
have fun eythian |
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cait |
bbiab |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
kia ora, reiveune |
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alex_a |
hello |
| 06:59 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 21, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 21, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:59 |
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magnuse |
ooh, not a big difference |
| 07:08 |
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magnuse |
gah! all those strings beginning with %s%s%sKoha online%s catalog › ... |
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Francesca |
hi |
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wahanui |
que tal, Francesca |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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glen |
Can anyone tell me what the login and password are for the koha314-demo VM ? Have just installed under ESX but doesn't seem to be any docs. |
| 07:49 |
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ashimema |
314... we're on 320 with 322 just around the corner.. why are you trying out 314? |
| 07:49 |
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ashimema |
no idea about vm passwords I'm afriad |
| 07:50 |
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glen |
I run Fedora 20 and 22 and needed to try it out. If there is a VM of 320, where can I get it. I got 314 from the download site |
| 07:51 |
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glen |
I have attempted to do an install gro tar file onto Fedora but there are too many dependencies that I can't resolve in a shared webserver environmnet |
| 07:52 |
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glen |
Am prepared to build a Debian VM but it would be an orphan in our environment so was hoping for a shortcut :-) |
| 07:54 |
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ashimema |
ah.. I see |
| 07:54 |
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ashimema |
wow.. you must have had to search hard to find that vm |
| 07:54 |
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ashimema |
it's not been supported since 2013 I'm afriad |
| 07:55 |
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ashimema |
In general the vast majority of us are using debian and packages are the recommended install route for simplicity |
| 07:55 |
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ashimema |
However, I am aware of a few people running on redhat and suse.. so you 'should' be able to run on fedora.. |
| 07:55 |
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ashimema |
but as you say, if you're on a hosting that's locked down you will be unlikely to manage to install all the dependancies. |
| 07:55 |
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ashimema |
:( |
| 07:56 |
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glen |
It was easy to find http://download.koha-community.org/vm |
| 07:56 |
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ashimema |
Is this your first foray into koha? |
| 07:57 |
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glen |
Yes, I am a hosting providier and have been asked by a customer to host for them. I was hoping to run on one of our shared platforms but it may be I'll just roll a webserver just for them. |
| 07:58 |
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ashimema |
@later tell wizzyrea any chance we could hide the vm koha (314) a bit better from the downloads page on koha-community.. it's a tad misleading |
| 07:58 |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:58 |
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glen |
Hence my wnting a shortcut and reluctance to have an orphan OS |
| 07:59 |
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ashimema |
understandable.. though your customer would likely get a less than wonderful experience using a koha that's no longer supported.. having said that it 'should' be trivial to update the koha in place on the vm |
| 07:59 |
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ashimema |
what details are you lacking.. the os logins, or the koha app logins? |
| 08:00 |
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ashimema |
if you have console access.. which of course you should.. you should be able to find the koha admin login details in the config file |
| 08:00 |
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glen |
They are a not-for-profit and have a very small library and few subscribers. They had KOHA recommended to them by someone else. |
| 08:01 |
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ashimema |
if it's a package based install (i have no idea at this point what that vm was built as) then /etc/koha/sites/whatever/koha-conf.xml is your friend. |
| 08:01 |
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glen |
Yep have console access and it asks for a user and password, not suer if that is for the OS or is running the ap already. |
| 08:02 |
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glen |
My preferred install is probably from a tar file on a Fedora 20 webserver, so I might clone one of our platforms so that I can add extar dependencies without impacting other users |
| 08:03 |
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ashimema |
that sounds like the optimal solution for you to be honest.. |
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| 08:03 |
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ashimema |
I'm currently searching through a few years of mail to see if I can dig out those login details for you |
| 08:04 |
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ashimema |
but I'm not feeling very hopeful I'm afriad |
| 08:04 |
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glen |
Cool, no problem starting again, just an hour or so omf my time :-( |
| 08:05 |
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glen |
Thanks for your comments. If you do find anything can you email me glen agre.enterprises, I may still have a go at the 'appliance approach' |
| 08:06 |
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glen |
lo |
| 08:06 |
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ashimema |
sure thing |
| 08:06 |
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ashimema |
sorry I couldn't be of much help :( |
| 08:07 |
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glen |
Nice to know there is a community out there though :-) |
| 08:12 |
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* cait |
waves |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
woohoo - batch checkout! |
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andreashm |
woot |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:45 |
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andreashm |
anyone know if there has been any progress on the base for the restful api, if it will make it into 3.22? |
| 08:45 |
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| 08:46 |
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ashimema |
'tis on todays hit list for me |
| 08:46 |
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magnuse |
bug 13799 |
| 08:46 |
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wahanui |
somebody said bug 13799 was ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it |
| 08:46 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 08:46 |
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andreashm |
ashimema: sounds great! |
| 08:47 |
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magnuse |
go ashimema go! |
| 08:49 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 08:49 |
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cait |
i distracted him with another bug question *hides* |
| 08:50 |
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andreashm |
caaaaait! =) |
| 08:51 |
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* cait |
makes herself invisible |
| 08:52 |
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andreashm |
cait: while I'm at it, how's it going with (Viktors) bugs related to overdues/notises? =) |
| 08:52 |
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cait |
i am trying to work throuhg the qa list best i can this week - going by age a bit |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
there is lots of good stuff in there, but probably nt all will make it before monday :( |
| 08:53 |
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* magnuse |
gives cait the rest of the week off work |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
hah |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
that would be great :) |
| 08:53 |
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* andreashm |
too |
| 08:54 |
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andreashm |
tell your boss I said so! =) |
| 08:54 |
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* magnuse |
too! |
| 08:54 |
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andreashm |
"Scandinavia said I can take the week off" |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
we have a go live next week too... so |
| 08:54 |
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andreashm |
bah. |
| 08:54 |
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andreashm |
=) |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
yeah, full month :) |
| 08:55 |
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andreashm |
this fall has been crazy busy, every month since coming back from summer vacation. |
| 08:56 |
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andreashm |
so much so that we haven't had time to test the OAI harvester, so it won't make it into 3.22. =( |
| 08:56 |
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magnuse |
gah, the item edit form for biblios is subtly different from the form you get when you receive a serial issue and add an item... |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
i feel with you... pretty much the same problem here |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
i almost had working order emails... but never got to finish them really :( |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
there will still be a lot of nice things in this release |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
like the enh for the on-site checouts |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
batch checkouts sound intersting too |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
a lot of things i can remember right now as well :) |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
can't remember... |
| 09:02 |
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| 09:04 |
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andreashm |
REST API! =) |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
git shortlog 22a6d3fe2ef8f4aad8b689c577bf347954301481..HEAD :-) |
| 09:10 |
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magnuse |
or git log --oneline 22a6d3fe2ef8f4aad8b689c577bf347954301481..HEAD |
| 09:10 |
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andreashm |
how does Koha check for duplicates (matching records)? Are there set rules, or can you configure this? |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
i thnk there are two different ways - if you enter a new record it compares the title and maybe author. if you do a batch import you can set up matching rules |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
i think... |
| 09:14 |
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magnuse |
ah yes Home › Administration › Record matching rules |
| 09:14 |
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* ashimema |
goes for tea.. upon return it time to think swagger |
| 09:17 |
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andreashm |
Tea and Swagger! Tea and Swagger! |
| 09:18 |
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* andreashm |
just thought it sounded funny. Disregard. |
| 09:19 |
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andreashm |
Does Koha care if imported records with ISBN number have dashes in them or not? I.e. would it affect searches/matching for duplicates etc.? |
| 09:22 |
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andreashm |
like, for batch exports, should we strip ISBN:s to numbers only for Koha's matching rules to work? |
| 09:22 |
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andreashm |
batch imports, I mean |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
i think it used to matter, but i am not sure if it has been fixed |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
it uses the zebra indexes |
| 09:23 |
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* andreashm |
has a scambled barin today. Was up a lot during the night with Ruby. |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
not the programming language, i presume? |
| 09:23 |
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andreashm |
magnuse: did you look at that for ftp2koha? |
| 09:24 |
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andreashm |
or did you leave it up to Halland to make sure its setting from LIBRIS would work with the matching rules? |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
hm, i don't think i thought about it... |
| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
or did i? |
| 09:29 |
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magnuse |
btw bug 13528, but "this only works if UseQueryParser is disabled" |
| 09:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13528 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Ability to search on the different isbn variations |
| 09:31 |
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magnuse |
andreashm: doesn't look like we do any matching: https://github.com/Libriotech/[…]/ftp2koha.pl#L103 i have a faint memory telling me that might be how they wanted it |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
andreashm: what doy ou want to do? |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
we have a matching rule on 001 for example - that's the identifier from our union catalog for us |
| 09:38 |
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Joubu |
hello |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
morning Joubu :) |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 09:51 |
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cait |
hi drojf |
| 09:56 |
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drojf |
hi cait |
| 09:56 |
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drojf |
just finished the german translation for the staff client. looks like the server exploded at the last one |
| 09:57 |
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drojf |
no, it just said i reached the end, but the popup was out if the screen |
| 09:58 |
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drojf |
and now it is not all finished. thats funny |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
drojf: thx a lot for taking care of it |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
i will focus on qa this week |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
and... all the other things |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
lunch! bbl |
| 10:13 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen why haven't you pushed the last patch on bug 8417? |
| 10:13 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:21 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen jenkins conf files for master u14 and d7 are not in sync (3 t/db_dependent/www/* entries are missing for d7). And they fail because KOHA_INTRANET_URL is not defined |
| 10:21 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:23 |
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Joubu |
@later tell pianohacker as futur MM for the admin area, bugs 14828, 14836 and 14889 might interest you |
| 10:23 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:37 |
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andreashm |
back. reading the log. |
| 10:39 |
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andreashm |
cait: we might end up going with batch importing (magnuse's ftp2koha work: https://github.com/Libriotech/ftp2koha) if OAI harvesting is not complete when we go live. |
| 10:41 |
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andreashm |
one export parameter from LIBRIS is how to handle ISBN (depending on matching rules in the local systems). but we should be able to match 001 (LIBRIS Id) as well. |
| 10:57 |
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cait |
andreashm: that's what we currently do - a nightly import using the staged marc import from command line |
| 10:57 |
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cait |
there are scripts to do that -just a little hidden |
| 10:58 |
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andreashm |
cait: ok, thanks |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
it seems to work quite well... if that is helpful to know :) |
| 11:03 |
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drojf |
cait: team german done :) |
| 11:04 |
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drojf |
wasn't much really |
| 11:04 |
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drojf |
but i have not tested yet |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
great - thx! |
| 11:04 |
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cait |
drojf++ |
| 11:08 |
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magnuse |
drojf: wanna do the nb-NO intranet one too? |
| 11:10 |
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drojf |
magnuse: not dure if my norwegian is enough :D |
| 11:11 |
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drojf |
sure |
| 11:15 |
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magnuse |
oh well, i tried... ;-) |
| 11:18 |
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magnuse |
ooh, look at bug 15042, all ready to be signed off |
| 11:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15042 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Barcode <branchcode>yymm0001 does not work when receiving serials |
| 11:21 |
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cait |
khall: just saw your follow up - i think there will be a conflict with the patch for the grace period (both go in smart-rules) so probably willl need to rebase one of those |
| 11:21 |
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khall |
yeah, I bet you are right! |
| 11:22 |
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khall |
cait: do you recall that bug number? |
| 11:22 |
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drojf |
cait: tried the translation files on a 3.20.4, no errors |
| 11:22 |
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khall |
13590 |
| 11:22 |
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khall |
cait: you're referring to bug 13590 right? |
| 11:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to charge fines at start of charge period |
| 11:23 |
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cait |
khall: not pushed yet, but one will be the first... and then the other will need a little love i think |
| 11:23 |
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cait |
yep |
| 11:23 |
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khall |
right, I'm going to make 9129 depend on 13590 and resolve the conflicts |
| 11:24 |
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cait |
not sure what works best - leaving it to you |
| 11:24 |
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cait |
just noticed it could get a problem |
| 11:25 |
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drojf |
@later tell mveron de-DE is done (if you want to use it for de-CH) |
| 11:25 |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:27 |
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| 11:30 |
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khall |
cait: can you qa 15043 quick? It's the easiest qa you'll ever do ; ) |
| 11:31 |
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magnuse |
bug 15043 |
| 11:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15043 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Bottom table header row for circulation rules missing a column |
| 11:33 |
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Joubu |
khall: I have already submitted a patch for that |
| 11:33 |
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khall |
Joubu: excellent! I'll close mine out |
| 11:33 |
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khall |
Joubu: what's the bug number? |
| 11:34 |
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Joubu |
I have added it on bug 14045 actually |
| 11:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
| 11:34 |
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Joubu |
I thought Tomas would have pushed it directly |
| 11:34 |
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khall |
nope |
| 11:35 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen, please push the followup on bug 14045 |
| 11:35 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:37 |
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magnuse |
talk of the rm... |
| 11:39 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: hi :) |
| 11:40 |
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khall |
mornin tcohen! |
| 11:42 |
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tcohen |
hi Joubu |
| 11:42 |
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tcohen |
hi khall |
| 11:43 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: I forgot about 8417 followup |
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| 11:43 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: and 14045 too :) |
| 11:43 |
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tcohen |
and it is possible that not all nodes have the apahe confguration |
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* tcohen |
makes notes for when he reaches the office (having breakfast now) |
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tcohen |
hi fridolin |
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magnuse |
on my plack install i had koha set to store sessions in memcached, but no memcached. i installed memcached and restarted my instance, but koha is still creating cgisess_* files in /tmp. anything particular i need to do to get that to work? |
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fridolin |
hie tcohen |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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tcohen |
hi andreashm |
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fridolin |
magnuse: there are memcache env vars in Apache config I know |
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magnuse |
yup, those should be ok |
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tcohen |
whatsup magnuse? |
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tcohen |
ah |
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andreashm |
is there a way to send a notice when a book is marked as lost, currently? |
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tcohen |
magnuse: you need to restart plack, once things are loaded, they remain in memory |
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magnuse |
tcohen: with "sudo koha-plack --restart <instance>" or something else? |
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tcohen |
magnuse: exactly |
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magnuse |
i already did that... |
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tcohen |
so it is not working? |
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magnuse |
hm, maybe it's working now... |
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magnuse |
nope, still getting new cgisess files |
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cait |
@later tell Viktor ping! |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
hi |
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magnuse |
¡hola tcohen! |
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magnuse |
what are the usernames/passwords for the plack demo from bywater again? |
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magnuse |
found it, soory! |
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Joubu |
magnuse: test_xxx / test_xxx with 1 <= xxx <= 100 |
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magnuse |
Joubu: thanks! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14045: Add missing th in tfoot <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8cf6a92aa463454fb> / Bug 8417: Fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc360643a5daa205d> |
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Joubu |
khall: thanks for your comment on bug 12768! :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, In Discussion , Replacement cost and processing fee management |
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khall |
np! |
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andreashm |
Ah, 12768 - I still hope it can make it in 3.22, if they manage to fix it in time. |
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cait |
close call now |
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cait |
hope they are aware of the deadline |
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magnuse |
bug 12768 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, In Discussion , Replacement cost and processing fee management |
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magnuse |
in discussion? not good... |
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Joubu |
magnuse: "in discussion" is good, when a discussion exists :) |
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Joubu |
magnuse: and the discussion is just starting, feel free to comment if you have any opinion |
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magnuse |
true :-) |
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andreashm |
cait: I'm sure they are, but I saw that Viktor is sick apparently (got an auto reply when I sent him an email today) |
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andreashm |
don't know if any of the devlopers are watching. |
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cait |
oh noes |
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andreashm |
but Eivin is on the cc, at least. |
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tcohen |
Joubu++ # jenkins back to stable |
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Joubu |
\o/ |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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tcohen |
jenkins fixed? |
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wahanui |
well, jenkins fixed is http://i.stack.imgur.com/05ISR.jpg |
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* tcohen |
wanted to make an akira reference but is not really good at that |
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magnuse |
ooh weirdness. under plack, if you are logged out, go to http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl and log in, you end up on http://intranet/intranet/mainpage.pl which is 404 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: will you watch rugby on sunday? |
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tcohen |
probably :-D |
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drojf |
can i escape things in the patron import tool? it explodes with records that have " or , in a field |
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tcohen |
magnuse, that's not in master |
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tcohen |
right? |
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Joubu |
I hope you will play All Blacks in final :) |
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magnuse |
tcohen: no, 3.20.x with a backport of your koha-plack stuff |
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tcohen |
magnuse: exactly :-D |
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tcohen |
you need |
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tcohen |
bug 15005 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
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drojf |
also the encoding in the report after patron import is broken |
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cait |
drojf: hmm, i think there was something about using multiple "" or so... |
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cait |
and your import file need to be utf-8 without bom |
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drojf |
no the encoding is fine. just the report is wrong |
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cait |
report it :) |
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drojf |
i'll make a screenshot if it comes again. yes |
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Joubu |
drojf: Are you sure it's plack related? |
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drojf |
Joubu: not at all |
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Joubu |
drojf: it's certainly not |
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drojf |
there is no plack here atm ;) |
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drojf |
sorry for the confusion |
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Joubu |
actually I thought I have already fixed it, but I don't find a bug report |
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tcohen |
Joubu: i'm bisecting the search bug |
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tcohen |
search tests problem |
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magnuse |
ah, thanks tcohen |
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tcohen |
khall: 12c82427550a4a53e2148d9bf479db3425fef8fd |
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khall |
lol |
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tcohen |
a sec |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/7Wf4w.jpg |
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Joubu |
what does test.sh? |
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tcohen |
KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha_master:8080 PERL5LIB=. KOHA_CONF="/home/jenkins/koha_master/etc/koha-conf.xml" prove t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t > /dev/null 2>&1 |
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tcohen |
koha_master points to localhost in /etc/hosts |
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* tcohen |
will now patch kohadevbox so it sets those ENV variables for koha-shell kohadev |
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tcohen |
khall, Joubu: I'm sure some layout changed so the tests need to be fixed to match the page structure |
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fridolin |
tcohen: where could we find the new features that will come into 3.22 ? |
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Joubu |
nowhere |
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fridolin |
does it even exist ? |
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Joubu |
no |
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tcohen |
there are no features frido |
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tcohen |
.-P |
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Joubu |
feature slush is not passed yet |
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tcohen |
i can build them for you, later |
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fridolin |
tcohen: heuuu new big enhancements |
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Joubu |
git log origin/master ? |
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fridolin |
oki |
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fridolin |
:D |
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tcohen |
or you can build the release notes the same way you did for 3.14 |
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Joubu |
using bugzilla, search for feature/enhancement with status=pushed to master |
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tcohen |
but for master |
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fridolin |
Joubu: oki I whas thinking about that |
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fridolin |
thanks |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen see last patch on bug 10363 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen did you apply 15021 on the plack test server? |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
bye |
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cait |
bug 10363 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no package for authorised values. |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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pianohacker |
good |
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pianohacker |
morning |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14900: Add ability to pay all fees at once from circulation screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bb41a78f2e5a516a> / Bug 14154: 608$9 defined twice in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0c13e3ec5e41a142> / Bug 14871: Extend the patrons search to search like %$term% (checkout |
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* cait |
waves |
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* pianohacker |
waves at cait |
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cait |
hello :) |
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pianohacker |
@seen wnickc |
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huginn |
pianohacker: wnickc was last seen in #koha 4 days, 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <wnickc> bye all |
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pianohacker |
dangit me wants a rancor signoff |
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pianohacker |
wantsssssss |
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cait |
that would be nice |
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avetitch |
WWW.EXPOSINGCOMMUNISM.COM |
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IceCube |
Hello all, I was here a few days ago working on moving a databse from an old server to a new one. |
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IceCube |
That migration had some problems so I'm trying it again with a fresh install of everything |
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IceCube |
I have a question about importing the db |
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cait |
what is it? |
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wahanui |
it is something we could get funding for (hint, hint). =) so what would you think is needed more than adding a triple-store for Koha to be able to harvest records from LIBRIS (if we also develop the harvester to handle RDF)? Any ideas? |
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IceCube |
hi cait |
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IceCube |
well I followed the directions on the "Koha on Debian" guide |
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cait |
can you give me the link? |
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IceCube |
I'm at the point of accessing the web interface but I haven't done that yet |
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IceCube |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bian#Install_Koha |
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IceCube |
Should I import the databse first and then go to the web interface, or vice versa |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i'd import the db now |
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cait |
while it's empty |
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cait |
and then the web installer will probably prompt you for updates |
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IceCube |
ok |
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cait |
i assume the db is an older version? |
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IceCube |
I'll give that a try |
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IceCube |
thanks, cait |
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cait |
keeping fingers crosseed |
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IceCube |
haha yeahhh.... |
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IceCube |
this time I'm making a clone of the vm before I move on! Last time I had to start over with a new one because something got corrupted along the way |
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cait |
a clone never hurts |
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cait |
but improting the db should cause no problems |
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IceCube |
I am Irish and I am subject to Murphy's law |
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IceCube |
so it seems, anyways. |
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cait |
aren't we all? i think he doesn't care about natoinality |
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IceCube |
Well the Irish have spread all over the world so I guess they took him with them! |
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cait |
germs? |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
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cait |
... |
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cait |
;) |
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* cait |
waves |
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tcohen |
hi |
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tcohen |
@later tell Joubu no and no |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10363: (QA followups) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df75d4ea2bd3091c8> |
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wizzyrea |
me being back means that koha-community.org is back ;) |
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wizzyrea |
ashimema: sure. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: we missed you! 45 minutes with no wizzyrea! |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema, any news on the REST guidelines? |
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wizzyrea |
:) I may drop off again |
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wizzyrea |
because since everyone thinks that kc might be down, I think I might take the upgrade to kvm from xen |
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wizzyrea |
which will take ~6m |
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tcohen |
hi jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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wizzyrea |
all done! |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
haha 9:49-9:55, 6m indeed. |
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* tcohen |
suspects that's too accurate, even for wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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tcohen |
@later tell Joubu now is yes and yes |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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pianohacker |
now? |
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wahanui |
hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
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pianohacker |
now? |
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wahanui |
hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
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jcamins |
@later tell tcohen Yeah, I know people who use Zebra with TEI. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
what is this trying to tell me? |
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cait |
Dumping manual schema for Koha::Schema to directory ./ ... |
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cait |
DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::make_schema_at(): Checksum mismatch in './/Koha/Schema/Result/Issuingrule.pm', the auto-generated part of the file has been modified outside of this loader. Aborting. |
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cait |
If you want to overwrite these modifications, set the 'overwrite_modifications' loader option. |
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tcohen |
that means you modified the file outside the place it can be done |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
tcohen: could you take a quick glance at 9129= |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
it happens when I try to test this |
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cait |
and there are also some strange warns when running the test |
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tcohen |
oh |
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tcohen |
he should have left the schema update patch out of the first patch |
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tcohen |
so you can regenerate it on your own |
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cait |
he made it dependent on the other patch - maybe he fixed a conflict... and then this is what is causing hte problem now |
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cait |
? |
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tcohen |
because you cannot just merge it, because the schema generator will notice the hash doesn't match the file |
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tcohen |
cait: probably |
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tcohen |
maybe if you manage to strip that out of the patch? |
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cait |
did you see my last commen t- is that cuased by the first problem or another problem? |
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cait |
it's late here, so I will ask kyle to fix |
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tcohen |
he has fixed some conflict, for sure |
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tcohen |
merged something |
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cait |
yeah probably |
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cait |
i pointed out to him that his 2 patches would be in conflict |
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cait |
once in your queue |
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cait |
because both add new options to issuingrules |
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cait |
so he tried to prevent that by making htem dependent on each other |
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tcohen |
it always happens with dbix updates... |
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tcohen |
he should have provided separate DBIx patches, for people without the knowledge to be able to test his patches |
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tcohen |
but expecting them to be regenerated on QA or when being pushed |
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cait |
i am asking him to make them separate |
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tcohen |
because any change to the table he is changing will make his own changes useless |
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tcohen |
because git will try to merge, and the hash won't be valid anymore |
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eythian |
hi |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* cait |
waves back |
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cait |
ruby? |
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wahanui |
i heard ruby was easy to install. Any > 1.8.7 works fine |
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andreashm |
sleeping |
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andreashm |
I should be too. |
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eythian |
wahanui: that is a lie |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 22:05 |
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andreashm |
but am annoyed I can't get a SRU server to work in Koha |
| 22:06 |
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drojf |
evening |
| 22:06 |
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andreashm |
hi |
| 22:06 |
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drojf |
what is the problem with sru? |
| 22:07 |
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andreashm |
don't know. I can access it through the browser, but can't make it work in Koha |
| 22:07 |
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cait |
do you want to download in koha or activate koha's sru? |
| 22:07 |
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andreashm |
this one: http://api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris |
| 22:07 |
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andreashm |
cait: I want to test downloading for ctaloging |
| 22:07 |
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andreashm |
cataloging |
| 22:08 |
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andreashm |
I guess I'm filling out the SRU form wrong somehow. |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
can you share how you set it up? |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
it's a bit tricky |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
i still have to really read the specs you sent too :( |
| 22:08 |
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* cait |
needs more time in a day |
| 22:11 |
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andreashm |
sure |
| 22:11 |
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andreashm |
cait: who doesn't? :) |
| 22:15 |
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pastebot |
"andreashm" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SRU" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/119 |
| 22:16 |
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andreashm |
not sure that's readable. I could take a screenshot instead. |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
drojf: still around? |
| 22:19 |
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drojf |
yes |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
do you have the dnb sru at hand to compare maybe? |
| 22:19 |
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drojf |
looking for my sru notes |
| 22:19 |
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drojf |
heh |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
yeah mine are at work :) |
| 22:20 |
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drojf |
i have a blogpost that i kind of forgot to ever post about it. lol |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
andreashm: you might be missing something in the sru options thing |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
can you share the page with the data you are tying to use too? |
| 22:22 |
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andreashm |
I have just tried searching for author: strindberg |
| 22:23 |
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andreashm |
if anyone has an actual SRU server setup that works, I'd like to see it yeah. =) |
| 22:23 |
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andreashm |
but right now I think its time for bed. |
| 22:23 |
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andreashm |
can look at it again tomorrow. |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
try the keyword search first |
| 22:23 |
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andreashm |
might help when people are at work |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
andreashm: i promised viktor notes about the dnb one - can send to you as wlel |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
hopefully tomorrow... but no promises |
| 22:24 |
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andreashm |
cait: thanks, that would be great |
| 22:24 |
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andreashm |
hehe |
| 22:24 |
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andreashm |
nope, nothing with keywords. |
| 22:25 |
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cait |
hm i remember i got one working for another union catalog here |
| 22:25 |
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cait |
i will check what i have |
| 22:25 |
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andreashm |
thanks a bunch |
| 22:27 |
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drojf |
works for me |
| 22:27 |
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cait |
drojf might have better notes for the dnb one tho :) |
| 22:27 |
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cait |
andreashm: check for additional spaces |
| 22:27 |
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drojf |
i have the kb one running |
| 22:27 |
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andreashm |
drojf: what does? |
| 22:27 |
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cait |
at the end of url and such |
| 22:27 |
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* wnickc |
waves |
| 22:27 |
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* cait |
had that break things |
| 22:27 |
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cait |
hi wnickc |
| 22:28 |
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wnickc |
hi cait |
| 22:28 |
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andreashm |
drojf: oh really? |
| 22:28 |
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wahanui |
really is more trouble than she's worth. |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
drojf+ |
| 22:28 |
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drojf |
will upload a screenshot, mom |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
drojf++ even |
| 22:28 |
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andreashm |
drojf++ |
| 22:30 |
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cait |
btw... i need a sign off for 14246 as a dependency for things in my queue... |
| 22:30 |
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cait |
(wonder how they got there without that patch... but...) |
| 22:30 |
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cait |
bug 14246 |
| 22:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14246 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, Needs Signoff , Add borrowernumber to koha_news |
| 22:31 |
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drojf |
would have been faster to type it. lol |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
oh |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
sru/libris in database |
| 22:33 |
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cait |
and the get |
| 22:33 |
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andreashm |
hehe |
| 22:33 |
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andreashm |
thanks a lot drojf!! |
| 22:34 |
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cait |
drojf: i use Shutter for screenshots and it can directly upload via ftp and let's you directly paste the url - it's really helpful |
| 22:35 |
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andreashm |
I had sru/libris in database for a while, and tried sru=get, but I think the main thing was that I used http://api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris as hostname and not libris.kb.se |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
drojf++ again :) |
| 22:36 |
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andreashm |
cait: that's a useful tip |
| 22:36 |
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andreashm |
cait++ |
| 22:36 |
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andreashm |
drojf++ |
| 22:36 |
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cait |
link works :) |
| 22:36 |
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drojf |
andreashm: you can find that in the info of the server |
| 22:36 |
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cait |
i will point Viktor there instead of using my own confusing notes :) |
| 22:36 |
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drojf |
andreashm: api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris shows the server info |
| 22:37 |
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andreashm |
drojf: yeah, I saw that, but went with the name/link from KB:s webiste instead. stupid me. =) |
| 22:37 |
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drojf |
but i thoink the other works too |
| 22:37 |
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drojf |
i only tried in yaz client, it works there |
| 22:37 |
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andreashm |
alright, I'm of to bed. thanks again! |
| 22:37 |
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cait |
wow |
| 22:37 |
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drojf |
but sru is always weird. it took me ages to get the dnb working |
| 22:37 |
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cait |
long post! |
| 22:38 |
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drojf |
cait: i wrote that months ago and forgot |
| 22:38 |
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drojf |
and thought we should probably fix the bug with the ~ |
| 22:38 |
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drojf |
;) |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
tops the notes i had form the library :) |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
did you file it? :P |
| 22:39 |
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drojf |
no, i wanted to look into it and then 100 other things happened :D |
| 22:39 |
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cait |
if you get bored... see if 10612 does delete borrowers with checkouts correctly for you? |
| 22:39 |
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pianohacker |
bug 10612 |
| 22:39 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... bug 10612 is weird |
| 22:39 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool |
| 22:40 |
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pianohacker |
cait: is that correctly deletes or correctly does not delete? |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
i had a lot of bad and strange things happen on my database testing htis |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
like... it said it deleted but then i had an entry for the same patron in borrowers and deletedborrowers |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
... which is... wel |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
l |
| 22:40 |
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pianohacker |
that's a thing, yeah |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
jonathan says it works for him |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
so we have a pat |
| 22:41 |
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cait |
hm draw? |
| 22:41 |
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cait |
whatever |
| 22:41 |
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wahanui |
and ever, amen. |
| 22:41 |
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eythian |
that's what transactions are for |
| 22:41 |
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eythian |
do the move in a transaction and it either totally succeeds or totally fails |
| 22:41 |
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eythian |
no half-way state |
| 22:42 |
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eythian |
it's the whole point of the A in ACID |
| 22:43 |
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pianohacker |
one question I've always had about designing APIs around that; do you shove the commit logic in the controllers? You can't put it in the model, really, as there may be multiple model calls per logical operation |
| 22:48 |
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eythian |
well |
| 22:48 |
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eythian |
that's a tricky problem |
| 22:48 |
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eythian |
if it really needs to be atomic, I think you're better doing it in one call. |
| 22:48 |
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eythian |
either that or have a structure that lets you wrap multiple calls in a transaction. |
| 22:48 |
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eythian |
passing in a list of subs or something |
| 22:49 |
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pianohacker |
yeah, that's where the controller/model divide gets... weird |
| 22:49 |
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pianohacker |
there's stuff that belongs in the gaps between them |
| 22:49 |
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eythian |
but, if the call to the model is "delete user", then the model should know to "start transaction, write user to deleted_users, delete user from users, commit transaction" |
| 22:49 |
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eythian |
because that's what deleting a user really is |
| 22:50 |
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eythian |
but that's not always possible |
| 22:50 |
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| 22:51 |
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pianohacker |
but then you get into issues like, say, merging borrowers |
| 22:52 |
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pianohacker |
where the whole higher level operation of "transfer history/checkouts/etc., delete original" needs to be one transaction |
| 22:52 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 22:52 |
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pianohacker |
it's one of those problems that you always feel should have been solved 10 years ago but any google search leads to "have fun writing it yourself!" |
| 22:53 |
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eythian |
there's probably a design pattern for it :) |
| 22:53 |
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pianohacker |
is this just lowercase design pattern or design pattern with a capital Java? |
| 22:53 |
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eythian |
probably both, but I was thinking of the latter |
| 22:54 |
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eythian |
actually, your request managing system could create a transaction for the request |
| 22:54 |
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eythian |
so the whole thing succeeds or fails |
| 22:54 |
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eythian |
it's basically pushing the problem outwards |
| 22:55 |
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eythian |
though, there probably are situations where a failure is OK because you check for it and you don't want to abort the whole transaction |
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eythian |
I dunno, ask papa, I bet he knows |
| 22:56 |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
| 22:56 |
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eythian |
hi drojf |
| 22:56 |
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eythian |
bye drojf |
| 22:56 |
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drojf |
hibye eythian |
| 22:56 |
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eythian |
see, one transaction! |
| 22:57 |
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pianohacker |
hahahaha |
| 22:58 |
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pianohacker |
I dunno, drojf's response seemed to have autocommit on... |
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eythian |
https://twitter.com/iamdevlope[…]56798423878799360 |
| 23:02 |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 23:21 |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # bug 14884 |
| 23:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14884 critical, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , [3.20.X] Test failure from Bug 14470 |
| 23:22 |
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mtompset |
Joubu++ # bug 14884 |
| 23:34 |
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papa |
sorry, what was the question? |
| 23:34 |
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mtompset |
are you asking me? :) |
| 23:34 |
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mtompset |
I was wondering about conflict markers ages back, eythian and Joubu fixed it. |
| 23:35 |
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eythian |
http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]5-10-21#i_1744878 <-- papa, starting here |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
Holy crap! |
| 23:36 |
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* wahanui |
blesses crap |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
AaaaaaaaaaaaA! |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
bug 11559 |
| 23:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooha! |
| 23:36 |
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eythian |
signed off?! |
| 23:36 |
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wahanui |
i heard signed off was the queue the QA team should watch |
| 23:36 |
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eythian |
surely that's an accident! |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
nope! :D |
| 23:36 |
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* pianohacker |
dances on the ceiling |
| 23:36 |
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eythian |
oh great, now we have to clean the footprints off the ceiling |
| 23:37 |
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eythian |
also, someone turn the gravity back on |
| 23:37 |
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pianohacker |
*thump* ow! |
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| 23:38 |
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wnickc |
mtompsett are you testing 14246? |
| 23:38 |
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wnickc |
mtompset:^^ |
| 23:39 |
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mtompset |
Yes, working on it. |
| 23:39 |
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wnickc |
cause I was too, so I'll let you sign off |
| 23:39 |
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wnickc |
it works according to me :-) |
| 23:39 |
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mtompset |
Multiple sign offs is good. |
| 23:40 |
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wnickc |
fair point |
| 23:40 |
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papa |
well, without reading carefully I can tell you what I do most of the times: I do two layers - an atomic one, and then (controller) calls transaction wrapper with a sub that does atomic calls |
| 23:40 |
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mtompset |
https://youtu.be/OdQDXs75Ulo |
| 23:40 |
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papa |
but that's just my pref |
| 23:40 |
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mtompset |
(Dancing on the ceiling by Lionel Richie) |
| 23:41 |
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pianohacker |
I knew I was referencing something |
| 23:44 |
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wnickc |
pianohacker: you do realize if it gets in you are going to be simultaneously praised and attacked by catalogers? |
| 23:45 |
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pianohacker |
wnickc: oh, trust me, I know |
| 23:45 |
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wnickc |
with DEMANDS for new features! and workflows you can't comprehend |
| 23:45 |
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pianohacker |
I'm asking for qa testing from a group of people the library industry calls detail oriented |
| 23:46 |
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pianohacker |
catalogers++ ;) |
| 23:46 |
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wnickc |
pianohacker++ rancor++ |
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pianohacker |
bye all |
| 23:59 |
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pianohacker |
wnickc++ |
