| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:01 |
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mtompset |
wnickc: I signed off bug 14246 as well. :) |
| 00:01 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14246 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, Signed Off , Add borrowernumber to koha_news |
| 00:01 |
|
mtompset |
Added the koha::schema::results files too, just in case. |
| 00:03 |
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| 00:10 |
|
wnickc |
mtompset++ |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:34 |
|
wnickc |
goodnight! |
| 01:01 |
|
IceCube |
ok if anyone is there I have a few questions about my koha install |
| 01:02 |
|
IceCube |
It's a fresh install, just imported the database from an old system, logged into the web interface, the database was upgraded, and now I'm hitting an error page |
| 01:04 |
|
* eythian |
passive-aggressively wonders why no one ever actually says what the error is, which is the one thing that could allow them to be helped :) |
| 01:07 |
|
IceCube |
Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. |
| 01:07 |
|
eythian |
my first thing would be to ensure that mysql is running |
| 01:08 |
|
IceCube |
it is |
| 01:08 |
|
IceCube |
I can see it when I run top |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
try restarting it |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
often that error is from koha not being able to talk to it |
| 01:09 |
|
IceCube |
ok, restarted. |
| 01:09 |
|
IceCube |
same error |
| 01:09 |
|
IceCube |
:( |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 01:10 |
|
IceCube |
config wrong somewhere? |
| 01:10 |
|
eythian |
maybe |
| 01:10 |
|
eythian |
worth checking |
| 01:10 |
|
IceCube |
any suggestions where to look? |
| 01:11 |
|
eythian |
trying running 'sudo koha-update-schema instancename' |
| 01:11 |
|
eythian |
see if it gives you the same error |
| 01:11 |
|
IceCube |
koha-update-schema not found |
| 01:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
koha-upgrade-schema |
| 01:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
(I think) |
| 01:12 |
|
IceCube |
ahh there it is |
| 01:12 |
|
eythian |
oh |
| 01:12 |
|
IceCube |
yep I just found it in /bin |
| 01:12 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 01:12 |
|
eythian |
/bin? |
| 01:12 |
|
eythian |
not /usr/sbin? |
| 01:13 |
|
IceCube |
DBI connect('dbname=koha_koha;host=localhost;port=3306','koha_koha',...) failed; Access denied for user........ |
| 01:13 |
|
IceCube |
ok where do I set that |
| 01:13 |
|
eythian |
there you go |
| 01:13 |
|
eythian |
you need to fix that |
| 01:13 |
|
eythian |
it's in koha-conf.xml |
| 01:14 |
|
IceCube |
ok let me go check |
| 01:14 |
|
eythian |
did you copy that across from the old installation? |
| 01:14 |
|
eythian |
because if you did, that was a bad idea |
| 01:14 |
|
IceCube |
the kohaconf? no |
| 01:14 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 01:15 |
|
IceCube |
so it's a bunch of random letters |
| 01:15 |
|
IceCube |
can I just change that to something and then change it also in mysql |
| 01:16 |
|
eythian |
that's typically what a password is, yes |
| 01:16 |
|
eythian |
I'd just change mysql to match the file |
| 01:16 |
|
IceCube |
I just meant that I didn't set it |
| 01:16 |
|
eythian |
I'm concerned that they don't match though. That's suspicious |
| 01:16 |
|
eythian |
especially if, as you said, it successfully did the schema upgrade. |
| 01:17 |
|
IceCube |
sigh. I love technology. |
| 01:19 |
|
IceCube |
ok that did it |
| 01:19 |
|
IceCube |
thanks guys |
| 01:19 |
|
IceCube |
you've been a lot of help to me over the past few days |
| 01:21 |
|
eythian |
sweet :) |
| 01:21 |
|
eythian |
for payment, you must go patch two bugs ;) |
| 01:22 |
|
IceCube |
are you sure you want me to try to do that |
| 01:22 |
|
eythian |
we have a review process for a reason :) |
| 01:23 |
|
IceCube |
wisdom |
| 01:23 |
|
IceCube |
prudence, actually |
| 01:23 |
|
IceCube |
wisdom combined with experience |
| 01:23 |
|
eythian |
yes, and messy code from the past |
| 01:25 |
|
pastebot |
"IceCube" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Fresh install / db upgrade errors" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/120 |
| 01:25 |
|
IceCube |
ok I have to run for a few minutes but I'll be back - and now I have some more questions. Possibly related to the thing I just pasted. |
| 01:25 |
|
IceCube |
ttys... |
| 01:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
I feel like for the most part those messages are alright, especially if things are working. |
| 01:26 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 01:26 |
|
eythian |
the "Can't create" ones may be a problem |
| 01:27 |
|
eythian |
I kinda think we should capture and ignore any messages that start with "duplicate" |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah true |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
or mark them differently. |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
the other thing |
| 01:27 |
|
wahanui |
i guess the other thing is i want to upgrade the version of koha. how? |
| 01:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
I want to see in database update is printing something before an update that can take a lot of time begins |
| 01:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
and again afterwards |
| 01:28 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 01:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
i.e. "updating database for bug xxxx - this can take some time" then "Finished updating bug xxxxx" |
| 01:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
I do that for the ones in 3.18 that I do, even though they take very little time. |
| 01:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
there are some in there that can take aaages though and it's nerve wracking when it shouldn't be |
| 01:31 |
|
* eythian |
tries really hard to not have the "library data" section of his talk not turn into too long of a rant. |
| 01:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh go on, have your rant. |
| 01:32 |
|
eythian |
I only have 20 minutes and need to actually cover the topic |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh well, fair enough |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah, that's a 20 minute rant in itself. |
| 01:32 |
|
eythian |
yep |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
at minimum. |
| 01:49 |
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| 02:00 |
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| 02:12 |
|
IceCube |
Ok I'm back |
| 02:12 |
|
IceCube |
It looks like the database is... empty? |
| 02:12 |
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| 02:12 |
|
IceCube |
when I do a search on the catalog I get no results returned |
| 02:13 |
|
IceCube |
There should be about 70,000 books |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
IceCube: that symptom is not reflective of that conclusion :) |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
check your database first |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
select count(*) from biblio; |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
most likely you need to rebuild the search index |
| 02:13 |
|
IceCube |
haha obv :) |
| 02:13 |
|
IceCube |
ok |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
in fact, you definitely need to |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v koha |
| 02:14 |
|
IceCube |
what does select count(*) do |
| 02:14 |
|
IceCube |
It gave me a result of 1 |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
did you put in exactly what I said above? |
| 02:14 |
|
IceCube |
yes, with a ; |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
that is not what I'd expect |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
try: |
| 02:15 |
|
IceCube |
I have not done the rebuild yet though, if that matters |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
select * from biblio; |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
the rebuild is unrelated |
| 02:15 |
|
IceCube |
error 1046 no database selected |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
oh |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
how are you accessing your database? |
| 02:16 |
|
IceCube |
I'm doing this in mysql right? |
| 02:16 |
|
eythian |
that's not an answer :) |
| 02:16 |
|
IceCube |
it kind of is haha |
| 02:16 |
|
IceCube |
I'm in mysql |
| 02:16 |
|
eythian |
how did you get in to mysql? |
| 02:17 |
|
IceCube |
mysql -u username -p |
| 02:17 |
|
eythian |
that's the hard way |
| 02:17 |
|
eythian |
don't do that |
| 02:17 |
|
eythian |
sudo koha-mysql koha |
| 02:17 |
|
IceCube |
ok |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
(the actual probably is probably that you didn't select your database.) |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
*problem |
| 02:18 |
|
IceCube |
select count(*) now givs a big number |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
good |
| 02:18 |
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| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
so your database is not empty |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
now do the rebuild |
| 02:18 |
|
IceCube |
yeah I realized that when you told me I was doing it the hard way |
| 02:18 |
|
IceCube |
ok I'll do that |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 02:18 |
|
wahanui |
the saddest thing is http://i39.tinypic.com/14jz15f.jpg |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 02:19 |
|
IceCube |
lol |
| 02:19 |
|
IceCube |
how many things does wahanui do |
| 02:19 |
|
eythian |
wahanui is an infobot |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
wahanui: statistics? |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
i guess statistics is larger, so I'm assuming all is well for that. |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
so, many things. |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
wahanui: facts? |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
jcamins: bugger all, i dunno |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: stats |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
Since Tue Oct 6 21:46:26 2015, there have been 336 modifications and 208 questions. I have been awake for 15 days, 4 hours, 33 minutes, 39 seconds this session, and currently reference 46089 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, whatever. |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
and ever, amen. |
| 02:20 |
|
IceCube |
oh that's a lot of factoids |
| 02:20 |
|
IceCube |
Is that how many things he responds to or just how many things he comes up with |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
eythian? |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
i guess eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. |
| 02:20 |
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| 02:21 |
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eythian |
it's true, I was. |
| 02:22 |
|
IceCube |
ok reindexing done... |
| 02:23 |
|
eythian |
IceCube: do a sudo koha-common restart now |
| 02:23 |
|
IceCube |
and a search for the word "book" displays lots of records :) |
| 02:23 |
|
eythian |
oh, then don't bother with the restart |
| 02:23 |
|
eythian |
that sounds good then |
| 02:23 |
|
IceCube |
well it said command not found anyways |
| 02:23 |
|
eythian |
oh |
| 02:24 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 02:24 |
|
eythian |
I meant sudo service koha-common restart |
| 02:24 |
|
eythian |
but, if search is working, you don't need to |
| 02:24 |
|
IceCube |
ok cool |
| 02:24 |
|
IceCube |
yep it seems to be working! |
| 02:25 |
|
IceCube |
Wow I'm really happy |
| 02:25 |
|
eythian |
awesomecross |
| 02:25 |
|
IceCube |
This has been a long time coming |
| 02:25 |
|
IceCube |
The librarian has been complaining she wants an upgrade for several years |
| 02:25 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 02:26 |
|
eythian |
now they're going to have to spend a week reading the newer manual and learning all the new things |
| 02:26 |
|
IceCube |
I never wanted to do it because I didn't have the time or experience with linux, mysql, koha, etc. Then the system had a failure and... |
| 02:26 |
|
IceCube |
here we are |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
easy to update now |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
too |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
wizzy you were saying something about that last tiem |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
no more tarballs |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
:) |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
:D |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
thanks |
| 02:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
packages don't suck. :) |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
hahaha |
| 02:27 |
|
IceCube |
thanks all of you very much |
| 02:28 |
|
IceCube |
this is a very helpful resource |
| 02:28 |
|
IceCube |
and irc is kind of a blast from the past - haven't used it since the 90's really, but it came back immediately |
| 02:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
come back anytime :) |
| 02:28 |
|
IceCube |
oh... I probably will... lol |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
there's usually a good crowd in here |
| 02:29 |
|
IceCube |
do you all work on koha or just know a lot about it? |
| 02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, we usually say that the sun never sets on #koha :) |
| 02:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes. |
| 02:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 02:29 |
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eythian |
right now I'm writing a talk about it, if that counts |
| 02:29 |
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IceCube |
that counts as knowing it, I would think |
| 02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
pft, eythian is the pro-est of the pros. |
| 02:30 |
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IceCube |
do you get many people in here asking questions? |
| 02:30 |
|
IceCube |
glad to have your pro-est help, eythian |
| 02:30 |
|
eythian |
no problem ;) |
| 02:30 |
|
eythian |
yes, it's pretty common |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
pretty common yeah |
| 02:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
the mailing lists are good for things that are not time sensitive |
| 02:32 |
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IceCube |
ok good to know |
| 02:32 |
|
IceCube |
hey where does the superlibrarian log in? |
| 02:33 |
|
IceCube |
I tried it on the koha-intra site but it says I don't have permission |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
that's where they log in |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
you can use the database username/password to configure users |
| 02:34 |
|
IceCube |
I'm getting "Error: You do not have permission to access this page." |
| 02:34 |
|
IceCube |
yeah I did log in with that and it works but the superlib doesn't for some reason |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
are you using the database username/password? |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
reset the password? |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
passwords should be backwards compatible, but... |
| 02:35 |
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IceCube |
ok let's try resetting it |
| 02:35 |
|
IceCube |
seems that passwords don't like us tonight |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
also, double check the permissions |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, check the permissions |
| 02:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
because you wouldn't have seen that message |
| 02:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
if the password was wrong |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
true |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
note that you probably just need to untick and tick the superlibrarian box, and save it |
| 02:36 |
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IceCube |
ahh ok you know what I was spelling her name wrong :S |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
| 02:36 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:36 |
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IceCube |
don't tell her |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
mum's the word. |
| 02:37 |
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IceCube |
is it possible to link koha to ldap? I thin I saw this somewhere once |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
yes, it is |
| 02:37 |
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IceCube |
hmmmmm |
| 02:38 |
|
* IceCube |
begins to plan for the future |
| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
ldap? |
| 02:38 |
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wahanui |
ldap is missing a certain pleasantness of usage. |
| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph |
| 02:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
that is not what I wanted ;) |
| 02:38 |
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IceCube |
hahaha |
| 02:38 |
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| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]th_with_ldap.html slightly terrible looking, but essentially correct |
| 02:39 |
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IceCube |
hahahaha ok |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
of particular note are the bits you have to chuck into koha-conf.xml |
| 02:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
and how to do the mappings. |
| 02:39 |
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IceCube |
I'll prob consult a professional on this or if I decide to tinker around I'll make a copy of the VM and use that |
| 02:40 |
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IceCube |
ok good to know |
| 02:40 |
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IceCube |
Actually I should prob learn this because I want to start a school and will prob have to set a lot of this stuff up |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
It's not too hard, but you have to make sure the info in your ldap matches the info that koha expects |
| 02:40 |
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IceCube |
makese sense |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
what he said. |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
e.g. whatever field you use to provide borrower category must match the values that koha can have for borrower category, etc. |
| 02:41 |
|
eythian |
I've set up more koha-ldap system than I care to think about :) |
| 02:41 |
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IceCube |
Well that's good to know because that means it must work for a lot of people |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
it does |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
get your ducks in a row and it can be done in about 10 minutes |
| 02:42 |
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tcohen |
eythian: can u put your signature on bug 15012 and mark it PASSED QA? |
| 02:42 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15012 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , koha-shell raises " no job control in shell" error |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
the last one I did took about 6 months of duck-aligning. |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
if your ducks are disorderly... that. |
| 02:42 |
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IceCube |
hahaha |
| 02:42 |
|
IceCube |
ok I'll peruse and see what needs to be done |
| 02:43 |
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IceCube |
this works with AD also, right? |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
tcohen: do you want to write my talk? :) |
| 02:43 |
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wizzyrea |
should do |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
yep, AD==LDAP for all intensive porpoises |
| 02:43 |
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IceCube |
oh yeah there it is in the link you sent me |
| 02:43 |
|
IceCube |
right but occasionally you find quirks here and there |
| 02:44 |
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tcohen |
hehe, I didn't know you were giving a talk about ordering ducks |
| 02:44 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I'm giving a talk about elasticsearch, catmandu, and koha :) |
| 02:45 |
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tcohen |
ah, interesting when and where? I always wanted to learn about the three of the |
| 02:45 |
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tcohen |
m |
| 02:45 |
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eythian |
tcohen: Hobart, next Friday |
| 02:45 |
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eythian |
be there or be square |
| 02:45 |
|
* tcohen |
will just push the patch, I have you implicit aproval |
| 02:45 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I'm checking it out right now |
| 02:46 |
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tcohen |
eythian: will you record it or the organizing people? |
| 02:46 |
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eythian |
I think it'll be recorded |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13216 <runs away giggling> |
| 02:46 |
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huginn |
Bug 13216: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , fix koha-shell to work with git/dev installs |
| 02:47 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: I'd _really_ like a global solution for that issue |
| 02:47 |
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| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
true, that would be nice |
| 02:47 |
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eythian |
e.g. setting the perl5lib should be in a library |
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eythian |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
I just fixed mine locally like that, thought I'd submit it |
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eythian |
that has recursion issues |
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eythian |
but still, having it somewhere central so it applies to everything would be idea |
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eythian |
l |
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wizzyrea |
well hm |
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tcohen |
eythian, we already have that, |
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eythian |
do we? |
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tcohen |
remember /etc/default/koha-common? |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
yes |
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eythian |
that |
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eythian |
use that |
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tcohen |
we actually use that |
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wizzyrea |
mm but I don't want to do that because I want to change it at my whim |
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eythian |
ah, I see |
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eythian |
there's no reason it can't do both |
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eythian |
well actually |
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eythian |
it also needs to be on a per-instance basis |
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wizzyrea |
ok that I could get behind. |
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* eythian |
chooses not to think about that further for now |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: I wrote a patch for kohadevbox:ansible (didn't push it yet) that puts a custom .bashrc on the instance user, so it is picked by the shell |
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wizzyrea |
obvs lots of ways to solve that one :) |
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tcohen |
we leave alone all people's deployment |
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tcohen |
and have our own set of tools for that scenarios |
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tcohen |
(dev, testing ,etc) |
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tcohen |
hm |
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eythian |
tcohen: bug 15012 signed off, marked passed qa. All yours now :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15012 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , koha-shell raises " no job control in shell" error |
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tcohen |
eythian: have you noticed that if we ran one plack serverfor all instances, then mpm-itk doesn't make any sense? |
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eythian |
tcohen: yes |
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tcohen |
cool, thanks eythian! |
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tcohen |
I can now go to bed :-P |
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eythian |
I figure we'll burn that bridge when we get to it |
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wizzyrea |
per instance settings so you didn't have to specify would be the best ever. |
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* Francesca |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
but the way I did it is a very close 2nd to that, it works the way I do anyway. |
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eythian |
per-instance would mean our gitified staging servers make more sense |
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eythian |
later tcohen |
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eythian |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5CA59MSlU <-- tcohen, if you're really keen, here's my one from last year |
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eythian |
it'll probably help you if you're having trouble sleeping |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
that is one of my favourite talks ever. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15012: use sudo instead of su in koha-shell <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a05bf315c8d3fa91> |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea Francesca eythian |
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how good is the search and how refined are the search filters ... I don't know how satisfied users are and also I don't know the relationship with the library management system once a discovery layer has been installed. |
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irma |
So much to know ... |
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wizzyrea |
irma you mean like EBSCO or? |
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* cait |
waves |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait and eythian |
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cait |
magnuse: could i talk you into signing off some qa followups i did? |
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cait |
8436 |
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* eythian |
is making a slide on weird cases in searching, uses cait as an example |
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cait |
i am a weird case? |
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cait |
.... |
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eythian |
specifically, the author sorting behaviour you brought up |
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cait |
i still tihnk the browse is acting strange too |
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eythian |
possibly |
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eythian |
I haven't had a chance to look at it recently |
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cait |
when is your talk? :) |
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eythian |
next week friday |
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cait |
wow |
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cait |
and making the slides now |
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eythian |
I go there on Monday, and I will be having a busy weekend |
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cait |
btw, i am also looking for opinions on bug 11317 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Add a way to access files from the intranet. |
| 06:23 |
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cait |
which i'd like to have... but not sure how safe it is |
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eythian |
also, I like having a good amount of practice runs. |
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eythian |
OK, I think I'm at the point where the next step is to write my wrap-up slides. I'll do that tomorrow. |
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magnuse |
yay for 11317, but yes security should be a priority |
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reiveune |
hello |
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cait |
hi reiveune :) |
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cait |
bbiab |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
privet, alex_a |
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fridolin |
hie there |
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Joubu |
hi |
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waves |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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andreashm |
wassup? |
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magnuse |
ncip, hopefully |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen something weird on jenkins node: u12 and u14 does not use the same code: u14 is using master but 12 5a9b8d9359424a3f0316f89348038fbb290e722b. Do you know why? |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
hi, gaetan_B |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
looks like opac search also searches itemnotes_nonpublic? i get hits for things that are only in there. is it supposed to be like that? |
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Joubu |
certainly not |
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drojf |
the info is not shown then, but it should not be searchable anyway |
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Joubu |
drojf: it's certainly because it's indexed by zebra |
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drojf |
hmm maybe it's leftovers from the last import. i'll try a full reindex |
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Joubu |
drojf: the default mapping is 952x, and does not seem to be indexed |
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drojf |
i expected bulkmarkimport -d to do that, but maybe it doesn't. the info was in there before |
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drojf |
i can still find it Oo |
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drojf |
Joubu: it does get the info from there. i deleted it in one record, reindexed, and that record is no longer found. the others still are |
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Joubu |
drojf: is it mapped with 952x? |
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drojf |
oh. in the database, it is not in itemnote_nonpublic. that one is empty. it is in more_subfields_xml |
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drojf |
<record> |
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drojf |
<leader> a </leader> |
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drojf |
<datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" "> |
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drojf |
<subfield code="x">RLS-Gef-A</subfield> |
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drojf |
</datafield> |
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drojf |
</record> |
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drojf |
Joubu: i imported it as 952$x |
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drojf |
maybe bug 13023 fixes this |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes |
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Joubu |
That's the one I was looking for! |
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drojf |
i'll build a package of 3.20.4 and that patch and see if it fixes it |
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* cait |
waves |
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* cait |
waves at khall |
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cait |
did you see, i had some problems with the schema on the rebased patches (fine max is replacement price) |
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khall |
hi! |
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khall |
I'll check on that |
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cait |
tcohen explained it - you cannnot merge the changes |
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cait |
so easiest is probably to redo and put on a separate patch |
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cait |
and then tcohen will fix |
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cait |
but the discussion is in last nights irc log |
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Joubu |
cait, khall: I am on bug 11250, and I am not sure to know what could be done to make things moving |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11250 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , "too many holds" message appears inappropriately |
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khall |
cait: will do. Those warnings during the unit test run are not a problem. I was concerned about those too but other tests have the same warnings |
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cait |
ok - so just splitting it then maybe |
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khall |
cait: I'll do that right now |
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cait |
Joubu: yeah. hm. I just feel torn about it really - I feel like we are losing information the way we display only one error at a time... but i am not strongly set against it. Ultimately i'd like the too_many to just be more clear? or just to deal with that one differently than the rest? |
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Joubu |
cait: maybe :) |
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cait |
like as Mark I think suggested - if no holds are allowed the message shoudl be different than if you just have too many ... things like that |
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khall |
which would require a lot of rewriting of the code, quite a lot |
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cait |
i know |
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cait |
so if you feel thsi works... let's try it |
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cait |
changing it back wouldn#t be huge either |
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khall |
cait: yes please! agreed. |
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Joubu |
yes, that's what I was trying to say. Actually you try to fix with a 10 lines TT patch a 50 lines pm patches :) |
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cait |
but if someone hates it.. you write a new patch? heh |
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Joubu |
obviously it cannot work |
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khall |
I'm also continuously working on the holds system, once we've got the ability to determine each status separately and distinctly, re-updating the messages will be simple. |
| 10:23 |
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khall |
but this is a good fix for now |
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Joubu |
khall: I am just wondering if the elsif blocks could be rewritten like : if ( cond1 or cond2 or cond3 ) { loop on conditions to display the errors# So we could have more than 1 errors } elsif maxreserves { display the generic message } |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
i'd like that |
| 10:26 |
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khall |
joubu: yes, that would work. Before we go further than that, which messages do you believe we will see at the same time? |
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cait |
age restriction and none available |
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cait |
could happen |
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cait |
i think theoretically... you could just have all but the Too_many one |
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cait |
in one block |
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Joubu |
The idea is mainly to prepare for the next one (not developed yet) which will just follow the existing pattern |
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khall |
cait: there's my arguement for simplicity. If the hold is age restricted, none_available is meaningless |
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khall |
because that patron will never be able to place a hold on that record |
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cait |
i think then Joubu is right... future thing |
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khall |
ok, I'll make those changes |
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cait |
compromise - and a quick one |
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khall |
: ) |
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cait |
at leat not hard to change |
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cait |
i will try to test tonight |
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cait |
just have a ... ton of stuff on my desk :( |
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khall |
excellent@! |
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cait |
khall: you saw feature slush deadline? |
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khall |
yes |
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cait |
khall: everytime... it's a little scary. to me at least :) |
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khall |
lol, yes, I can totally understand that ; ) |
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cait |
khall: could you maybe take a look at bug 8436? i did a kind of more extensive follow-up (not sure if i shoudl regret it...) so now i feel i should not pass qa |
| 10:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Add branch limit on checkexpiration.pl |
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cait |
but it's not a big patch - was hoping jajm would take a look |
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khall |
will do cait! |
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cait |
hm my second patch could also move somewhere else if necessary |
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cait |
i kind of gave ni to temptation to fix a few things and not sure now about it :) |
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cait |
lunch time! |
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khall |
@later tell cait t/db_dependent/Circulation/TooMany.t has those same warnings |
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huginn |
khall: The operation succeeded. |
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khall |
@later tell cait bug 9129 is all fixed up! |
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huginn |
khall: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
khall: I think I agree with you now, sorry a bit slow :) |
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khall |
Joubu:on 11250? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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khall |
excellent! |
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khall |
would you mind passing qa since cait is at lunch? |
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Joubu |
khall: yep, will do |
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khall |
thanks Joubu! |
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back |
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andreashm |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi andreashm |
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hey drojf |
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tcohen |
morning |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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tcohen |
Joubu: maybe when I checked that commit broke something for jenkins, I'll reset --hard to master |
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tcohen |
oh |
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tcohen |
Joubu: u12 is not running, actually |
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tcohen |
not for master |
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Joubu |
tcohen: ha yes, it's the one you have frozen 2 days ago! |
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tcohen |
Joubu: I've just set D7 to run all the tests |
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tcohen |
(www) |
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tcohen |
Joubu: we should set them to load a dump of the DB each time, right? |
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* tcohen |
thinks we are running out of AUTOINCREMENT values too often with testbuilder |
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tcohen |
Joubu: ":x"? Vim typo at 12194 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: I think yes, it would be better to load a new DB at the beginning of the test suite |
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Joubu |
tcohen: yes but only on bz, not in the patch |
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Joubu |
(:x compulsory on uploading the patches) |
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Joubu |
what do you mean with the AI values and testbuilder? |
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tcohen |
in MySQL I've noticed that before the rollback |
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tcohen |
sorry, after it |
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tcohen |
the autoincement is not reset |
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tcohen |
ah |
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nengard |
hola all |
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tcohen |
hola nengard |
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magnuse |
hola nengard |
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nengard |
How are you all doing? |
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nengard |
I was at All Things Open earlier this week and it was AWESOME :) |
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Joubu: I'm about to update kohadevbox |
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Joubu |
tcohen: do it :) |
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* tcohen |
wanted to add a newline to koha-pass |
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Joubu |
and yes, the AI is not reset after a rollback |
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tcohen |
now that he is on it |
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tcohen |
done :-D |
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tcohen |
that's why it cannot create for all sources (one of the random failures in jenkins) |
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tcohen |
Joubu: now the DB password is set in {default|user}.yml and injected in the koha-shell user, so all tests can be run |
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tcohen |
\o/ |
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tcohen |
confetti |
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wahanui |
confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
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tcohen |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian we really need latest master packages |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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andreashm: do you still need the info for SRU? |
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andreashm |
cait: why not! |
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andreashm |
cait: it seems to be working, thanks to drojf, but its allways good to have more info |
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cait |
i actually sent Viktor the link to drojf's page :) |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
so i don't have much more actually :( |
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cait |
andreashm: did you see the page yesterday? |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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Joubu |
see you tomorrow #koha |
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cait |
bye Joubu :) |
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tcohen |
cait: we've just patched kohadevbox, now all the tests can be run in koha-shell, out of the box |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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cait |
still trying to convert me :) |
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tcohen |
still refusing to try it |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
just runnign out of time - as uusal |
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cait |
maybe once 3.22 is out |
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tcohen |
why not next week? or january? :-D |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15042: Barcode hbyymmincr does not work when receiving serials <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dee76ddfad54bd094> / Bug 12194: (RM followup) DBIx update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4548ae47af2ea1603> / Bug 12194: DBRev 3.21.00.039 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=452196ebbc4 |
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tcohen |
@later tell marcelr good question |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
tcohen: because my brain is going to explode next week |
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tcohen |
can we prevent that? |
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cait |
not really |
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tcohen |
cait: :-( |
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tcohen |
nengard_mtg: this is weird http://snag.gy/KeRB0.jpg |
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tcohen |
looks like an easter egg |
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cait |
the something else? :) |
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cait |
yeah,that is kind of an easter egg |
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cait |
it happens when you have an 'unknown' value in the advancedsearchtypes |
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nengard_mtg |
where did that come from??? |
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nengard_mtg |
oh |
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nengard_mtg |
cool |
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nengard_mtg |
or not :) hehe |
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cait |
but not sure how to 'fill' it - maybe it only does the tab |
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tcohen |
no no |
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tcohen |
that's the weirdest thing |
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tcohen |
sorry |
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tcohen |
new screenshot |
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tcohen |
hold on |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/w53uz.jpg |
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tcohen |
=\o/ |
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cait |
what is this? |
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wahanui |
well, this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. |
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cait |
it looks like... hm ne of the auth values |
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cait |
or... all of them |
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tcohen |
cait: you are right |
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cait |
what happens if you put something like... SUGGEST or so in there? |
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cait |
one existing category? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15039: Move top language menu to include and streamline logic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]817ee1781ebfce697> / Bug 11139: Add support for multiple values in AdvancedSearchTypes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a2d87ae8f029f4be9> / Bug 14788: Add unit tests for GetTopIssues <http://git.koha-community.org/git |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
cait: it offers that auth val category values only |
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tcohen |
still shows Something else |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/j9PUT.jpg |
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tcohen |
shit is getting serious |
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* tcohen |
thinks nengard is about to document the easter egg |
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tcohen |
serial dokumenter |
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pianohacker |
yo |
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cait |
tcohen: cool - you could easily rename the tab... just wonder if searching really works? which serach index does it use? |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi mveron |
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mveron |
hi drojf |
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mveron |
drojf:thank you for the message about de-DE |
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* mveron |
counts the C4::Dates bugs, still 18 to sign-off... |
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drojf |
i was wondering… can i run zebra on an external server? like mysql? |
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cait |
i think yes... but never tried |
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pianohacker |
drojf: yes, but you'll need to duplicate your koha config on that server |
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drojf |
pianohacker: do you know from experience? |
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pianohacker |
drojf: we don't have it in production but it's something we're testing |
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drojf |
so you need a duplicate installation of koha? how do you tell the one koha to look at the other zebra? |
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drojf |
if you got some notes on that, i'd be curious to take a look :) |
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pianohacker |
drojf: I think all you have to do is change the biblioserver config near the top of koha-conf.xml on the first machine |
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drojf |
ah yes makes sense. i was scrolling through the file but somehow missed the socket part |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
thanks |
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drojf |
pianohacker++ |
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pianohacker |
yw :) |
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* mveron-away |
waves good bye to #koha |
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mveron-away |
quit |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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ashimema |
kivilahtio see bug 12904 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: nice |
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drojf |
mveron-away: any specific order in which the C4::Dates patches should be tested? |
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drojf |
tcohen: feature slush is about enhancement, not bugfixes, right? |
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drojf |
*enhancements |
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tcohen |
drojf: exactly, we don't want a buggy release, right? |
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drojf |
oh no we don't :) |
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* tcohen |
expects people to mask enhancements as bugfixes |
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tcohen |
"Koha doesn't have feature X" |
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tcohen |
heh |
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drojf |
hehe |
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drojf |
there are things i consider bugs that people label enhancements. like patches related to other languages than endglish (no example at hand, but have noticed it before) |
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drojf |
*english |
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drojf |
it would be a little obvious if bug status changes now though :D |
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tcohen |
heh |
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drojf |
"Verify that ÆØÅ is shown in some weird order" |
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drojf |
:D norwegians |
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tcohen |
hehehe |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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* cait |
waves |
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pianohacker |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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wnickc |
hi cait / pianohacker |
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cait |
hi wnickc :) |
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drojf |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi drojf |
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nengard |
hi cait and drojf |
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cait |
hi nengard |
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jcamins |
@later tell tcohen I can't really tell what that control is supposed to do, so I think you are wise to consider rewording. :) |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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wnickc |
does anyone know, is there a page like this, but going the other way? So that you have the index followed by the fields it searches? |
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wnickc |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html |
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cait |
wnickc: hm i don't think so |
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cait |
it's also this way around in the config files |
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wnickc |
hmm..not doing that today, but tucking the idea away :-) |
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cait |
:) |
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pianohacker |
brendan's mentioned mutterings of the elasticsearch indexes being configurable from inside the staff client, which could support things like that |
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cait |
also maybe a structure that you can query... or at least parse better |
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cait |
but hven't looked really at it yet :( |
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pianohacker |
yaml is what the mutterings are saying |
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cait |
yep i heard muttering abou t that as wlel :) |
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magnuse |
wnickc: once upon a time i made a script for exploring indexes: https://github.com/Libriotech/[…]lob/master/rel.pl no idea if it still works |
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pianohacker |
but the mutterings say a lot of things, like "Rewrite the entire admin side in Angular!" and "Do we really want to deal with the madness of authority control?", so don't trust them too much |
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magnuse |
it will not work with the dom/xml-based config |
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wnickc |
thanks magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
ah, the mutterings... |
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misilot |
pianohacker: the angular idea would be neat, as it would most likely mean the REST API is feature complete for almost everything |
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pianohacker |
it's one of those beautiful ideas that would be a very large amount of work :) |
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pianohacker |
also, am I crazy, or is this a puff piece about what boils down to publicly accessible SQL reports? http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/10924 |
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misilot |
so how much does the feature cost? |
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pianohacker |
if you have to ask... |
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misilot |
:) I couldn't figure out if it was included or not with the article |
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misilot |
as a lot of ILS's all run on databases (now some don't store logical data in the database) |
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mveron-away |
hi again #koha |
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magnuse |
drojf++ for signing off norwegian stuff |
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* mveron |
waves to drojf anc cait and and magnuse everybody else :-) |
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magnuse |
hiya mveron |
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mveron |
drojf: late answer: No, the C4::Dates patches can be tested in any order |
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mveron |
and hiy magnuse :-) |
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mveron |
hiya... |
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mveron |
@wunder allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 8.0°C (9:20 PM CEST on October 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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* cait |
waves back |
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barton |
heykoha, I'm trying to use C4::Items::DelItemCheck in a command line script, and I'm getting the following warning: C4::Context->userenv not defined! at /foo/bar/baz/kohaclone/C4/Items.pm line 2336. Are there any guidelines for setting C4::Context->userenv within a command line script? |
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cait |
hm sorry, don't know |
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cait |
maybe take a look at some of the nwer scripts? |
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drojf |
barton: the easiest would be to use koha-shell |
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pianohacker |
my argument is that the check in question is only triggered if C4::Context->IsSuperLibrarian() returns false |
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pianohacker |
and that should return true in a command line setting where you have infinite control :) |
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barton |
drojf: the script in question is going to be called in a cron job; I would rather not use koha-shell. |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ # translation manager continuing |
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drojf |
cait: do we have a QA manager continuing? |
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cait |
don't ask me... check the wiki page :P |
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cait |
nominations? |
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cait |
nominations are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 |
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cait |
nominations? |
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wahanui |
nominations are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 |
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drojf |
barton: ok. it does not really look like the regular "missing koha environment variable" error to me, but do you have those set? (KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB) |
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cait |
drojf: i guess yes, if elected |
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barton |
drojf yes, I have those set. |
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drojf |
oh look, an awesome QA manager is running again :) |
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cait |
*hides* |
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drojf |
barton: then i'm sorry for bothering you with the standard stuff and i am all out of ideas :) |
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* wizzyrea |
guesses barton is working on bug 14504 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14504 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, In Discussion , Add command-line script to batch delete items based on lost/withdrawn statuses |
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barton |
drojf no, that's all good -- always good to check the standard stuff. |
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barton |
life? |
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wahanui |
life is a branch of master |
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cait |
hm why not master? |
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wizzyrea |
suspect some kind of religious thing there. |
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barton |
cait, because master is too meta for that :-) |
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cdickinson |
we all get merged back eventually |
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cdickinson |
or deleted... |
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wizzyrea |
heh. |
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barton |
live? |
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* wizzyrea |
learned about /etc/default/koha-common yesterday |
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cdickinson |
koha-create uses it I believe |
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barton |
Live is life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life. |
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barton |
live? |
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wahanui |
live is probably life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life. |
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cdickinson |
literal live |
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wahanui |
cdickinson: live =is= life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life. |
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cdickinson |
satisfied with that |
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wizzyrea |
bleh I hate it when I have to clear everything out of my cache. |
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wizzyrea |
in my browser |
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cdickinson |
something just stubbornly not refreshing? |
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wizzyrea |
yeah :( |
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cdickinson |
neither F5 nor hitting "Reload" specifically works? |
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cdickinson |
ugh |
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wizzyrea |
no :( |
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barton |
wizzyrea: if you're just testing, you can a) use private browsing or b) use something like chrome developer tools |
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wizzyrea |
yep, I know. |
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wizzyrea |
I've done that, but I wanted to make sure the behaviour I was seeing wasn't the actual behaviour, I wanted to make sure it was just me before showing it to the client. |
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wizzyrea |
being responsible and stuff. |
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barton |
I would like to see us keep our javascript in versioned files, but i know that would be a *lot* of work. |
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wizzyrea |
nah, it wasn't koha |
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barton |
ah... |
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barton |
"There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors." -- Jeff Atwood |
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wizzyrea |
kek. |
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cait |
heh |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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barton |
pianohacker: C4::Context->IsSuperLibrarian calls C4::Context->userenv ... |
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barton |
I'm inclined to say that if you're running from the command line, C4::Context->IsSuperLibrarian *should* return true, but anyway... |
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pianohacker |
I very much agree |
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wnickc |
I wish I could just click on a column in a report and have it copied ot the clipboard directly, just saying if anyone is bored |
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wizzyrea |
you can get pretty close to that if you use libreoffice. |
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wizzyrea |
because it does sensible things with copied table data. |
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wizzyrea |
when you paste it. |
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pianohacker |
can't you just download the report as an .ods? |
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ibeardslee |
wizzyrea: certainly does that in linux with the middle click paste buffer |
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wnickc |
wizzyrea:yeah, just trying to skip the downloading part |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, that's what I'm talking about ;) |
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wnickc |
ah I see what you mean now |
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wizzyrea |
not exactly what you're talking about, but no downloading. |
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wizzyrea |
alternatively you could make your report only output the column you want. |
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wnickc |
but I just want to copy itemnumebrs or barcodes from a report with a bunch of columns and drop them into the batch modification tool or something |
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wnickc |
persnickety |
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wizzyrea |
or make another report that does that. |
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* wnickc |
is being persnickety |
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wizzyrea |
you're not married to having every column showing with the Koha report module :P |
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wnickc |
true, I just want it all! |
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wizzyrea |
what I would probably do |
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wizzyrea |
or try, at least |
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wizzyrea |
is put the link to the one column report in the description of the comprehensive report. |
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mveron |
good night / daytime #koha |
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wnickc |
ooh, smart |
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wizzyrea |
mind you I haven't tried it. |
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wizzyrea |
but I would try it, if I had a reason to. :P |
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wnickc |
the thorn is that for batch item mod by itemnumber I have to save into a file anyways. Though fixing that is within my ken |
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wizzyrea |
do you? I thought they fixed that so you clicked a radio button to choose between them |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
I might have imagined that. |
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wnickc |
not in 3.18 |
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wnickc |
:) |
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wnickc |
I will look at bug 14739 for 3.18 if I find time btw |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14739 major, P3, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Add several patrons to a new batch will create a new batch per patron added |
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wizzyrea |
oh that would be good |
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wizzyrea |
wnickc++ |
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wizzyrea |
hm, no, I imagined that |
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wnickc |
hehe, no promises on when that will happen but it weighs on my mind |
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wizzyrea |
but why wouldn't you just use barcodes? |
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wizzyrea |
if you want to copy/paste? |
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wizzyrea |
what benefit to itemnumber? |
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wizzyrea |
unless you're modifying things that don't have barcodes? |
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wnickc |
exactly |
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* barton |
wants the option of iteative copy / paste. |
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barton |
not necessarilty in koha ... just in general. |
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wnickc |
wizzyrea++ you can embed links into report descriptions, thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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barton |
hi magnuse! |
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* Francesca |
waves |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, eythian |
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Francesca |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen I built them like 2 days ago :) will do them again |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen and done. |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
@later tell khall 11431 looks promising - can you please take a look at my last comment? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cbrannon |
Anyone here got solid experience with SIP? I am working on a major upgrade to Eric Melton's self check, and have question. |
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cait |
nothing super solid.. but we have libraries using it |
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cait |
what's the question? |
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wahanui |
the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
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cbrannon |
42 |
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cbrannon |
The question is, is there a way to check through sip if an item is renewable without acually trying to renew. I can't see anything in the item information, nor does the patron info show this information. So far, I can only find this info if I actually try to renew the item. |
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pianohacker |
cbrannon: :/ khall probably has that right at the top of his brain, but he headed out at 3 EDT |
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cbrannon |
Hmmm....I'll have to pick that brain when he is around. Okay. Thanks. |
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cbrannon |
FYI, in case anyone is interested, I rewrote the renewal logic in Eric's self check, and also figured out how to preload the checkout screen with items already checked out. I also updated some of the on screen messages for sip responses. It's getting quite an overhaul here. |
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pianohacker |
cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]cgi?id=11559#c172 |
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huginn |
Bug 11559: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Professional cataloger's interface |
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pianohacker |
cbrannon: is it on github? |
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pianohacker |
marc8-- |
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cait |
cbrannon: not sure if that is covered by the standard |
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cbrannon |
No. Something I am currently working on. Will probably distribute it in the same location the original is currently at (Google Code). |
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pianohacker |
cbrannon: I don't think you can :/ google code is read only now |
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cait |
oh - thoguht that was dead |
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cait |
pianohacker: keep it simple fo rnow i'd say |
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cbrannon |
Is it? Hmmm. I'll have to figure out what to do when I am done. |
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cait |
warning |
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pianohacker |
kk |
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cait |
well not sure how hard the other solution would be :) |
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cait |
but not breaking it right now would be good |
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pianohacker |
MARC-8 is _madness_ |
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pianohacker |
so much madness |
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cait |
and we don't have a routine already for converting? |
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pianohacker |
it's the worst parts of three different character encodings filtered through the bureaucracy of LOC |
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pianohacker |
cait: not in javascript... |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
i need to sleep |
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cait |
night all |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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pianohacker |
good night :) |
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pianohacker |
good time for me to head out too |
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eythian |
wahanui: XML::Simple |
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wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
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eythian |
wahanui: XML::Simple is the most complex XML parser available. |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
