IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-09

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03:49 embiopterid Hello.  I recently upgraded my koha installation on ubuntu 12.04.  Now, I can still see the biblios in mysql, but they don't appear in searches.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?
03:50 eythian how have you installed Koha?
03:50 embiopterid I used the ubuntu packages
03:51 eythian OK, then try: sudo service koha-common restart
03:52 eythian I'd also recommend doing a full reindex, it's a good idea after an upgrade: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v -v libraryname
03:52 embiopterid restart didn't help.  Let me try the rebuild.
03:53 eythian check to make sure you have the zebra server running, too. It's possible it's not starting for some reason.
03:53 eythian see what the result of "ps ax|grep [z]ebra" is
03:56 embiopterid zebrasrv is running.  Still no results.  They were errors when I did the rebuild.  It said "error retrieving biblio (number) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ line 679."
03:56 embiopterid There were a few such errors.
03:56 eythian hmm. that doesn't bode particularly well.
03:57 embiopterid I think you mean auger well :)
03:57 eythian when I can't get searches working, I usually run zebrasrv manually in the foreground. It'll display a lot of debug information that may be useful.
03:57 embiopterid Ya, I don't want to start over again, but there's only 140 titles in their right now so it wouldn't be the worst tragedy.
03:58 embiopterid Oh, ok.  I guess I'll try that.  Do I just kill the process and run it?  I'm not that familiar with koha architecture there a specific command to use?
03:58 eythian there's usually two reasons that searches don't work, when the daemon is running: one is that nothing is actually indexed, the other is that something's wrong with the on-disk database.
03:59 embiopterid The mysql database?
03:59 eythian zebra database
03:59 embiopterid Ah.  Can it just be scrapped and rebuild from the mysql database, or is it not all in there?
04:00 eythian the command will be something like: sudo koha-shell -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml'
04:00 eythian sudo koha-shell libraryname -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml'
04:00 eythian rather
04:01 eythian or maybe you put the instancename on the the end.
04:01 eythian I think you do.
04:02 eythian the rebuild-zebra command is what rebuilds the zebra index from mysql
04:02 eythian --full makes it reindex everything
04:02 embiopterid That's what I thought.  So if it has errors when rebuilding, does that mean something is wrong with the mysql records?
04:03 eythian maybe
04:03 eythian most likely, in this case
04:03 eythian there are some errors that cause the whole thing to abort, and other errors that just cause that record to be skipped
04:18 embiopterid Shouldn't I see some output when I run zebra in the koha-shell when I search in a browser?
04:18 eythian yes
04:18 eythian it should be fairly chatty
04:18 embiopterid I don't/
04:19 eythian do you see anything at all, i.e. when you start the command?
04:19 eythian also, have you done service koha-common stop first to make sure the other one isn't running?
04:20 embiopterid Yes.  There dont seem to be any errors.  And yes, I stopped koha-common, but let's try it one more time.
04:20 eythian hmm
04:20 eythian I wonder if something's changed in the koha-conf.xml that's causing it.
04:21 embiopterid still nothing.
04:21 wahanui nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
04:21 embiopterid wahanui: ?
04:21 wahanui embiopterid: bugger all, i dunno
04:22 embiopterid Actually, now that you mention it the upgrade did overwrite the xml and I had to fix it.  I'll check that.
04:22 eythian it shouldn't
04:23 embiopterid It did though.
04:23 eythian it can't
04:24 embiopterid There might have been a problem with the installation because the disk was full for a bit and I didn't notice.  I'm running it in a kvm virtual machine.
04:24 eythian the packages don't know that the sites/ subdirectory exists.
04:24 eythian ah
04:24 eythian so there could be deeper issues here
04:24 eythian tried doing apt-get install --reinstall koha-common
04:25 eythian wahanui: explain yourself is <reply>
04:25 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:25 embiopterid If I can get it working, I'll probably reinstall the virtual machine.  Or really, either way, cuz I'm sure not everything is koshur.
04:26 eythian it's very suspicious that Koha doesn't seem to be talking to zebra at all.
04:27 embiopterid Ya, and it still isn't.
04:27 embiopterid Where is that configured?
04:28 eythian /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml - but you pretty much never have to mess with it.
04:28 embiopterid I don't understand how that file could have been changed if the package manager didn't know about it anyway :\
04:29 eythian it can't
04:29 eythian not by the package manager, anyway
04:29 eythian Really, the only thing that writes to it is koha-create when you first set up the instance.
04:29 eythian I don't think we have any upgrade processes modifying it: it's generally too risky
04:31 embiopterid I guess I'll just have to figure out why nothing is talking to the zebra server.  Thanks for helping me narrow it down.
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06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:17 cait good morning #koha
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08:19 fALSO good morning
08:35 mle : )
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09:14 fALSO Im having a little problem with Koha on Debian
09:14 fALSO On Debian 6.x there was a bug on a perl module on DBIX
09:14 fALSO so I tried a dist-upgrade... for that perl module to be upgraded
09:15 fALSO now... apt-get install koha-common doesnt even install :-X
09:15 fALSO The following packages have unmet dependencies:
09:15 fALSO koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed
09:15 fALSO Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed
09:15 fALSO E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
09:15 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO.
09:15 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO.
09:15 fALSO Anyone knows what to do?
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09:31 fALSO On which Debian version is the apt-get install method supposed to work ?
09:35 fALSO No one?
09:35 wahanui No one is saying a word, soooooo
09:41 ashimema squeeze and wheezy are both tested fALSO
09:43 fALSO Im trying with squeeze ashimema
09:43 fALSO oops wheezy
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09:44 fALSO ashimema,
09:44 fALSO I dont believe its quite tested on wheezy
09:45 fALSO can you try to help me out ?
09:45 ashimema works first time every time on wheezy for me i'm afraid
09:46 fALSO :(
09:47 ashimema those a zebra dependencies.. you could try adding the indexdata repositories to get the latest versions if you like.. but really you shouldn't need to.
10:35 fALSO managed to fix it :-D
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10:47 cait bgkriegel?
10:47 wahanui it has been said that bgkriegel is on a signoff spree
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11:08 * magnuse waves relaxedly
11:08 magnuse sorry, i just gotta do this...
11:08 magnuse @wunder boo
11:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 26.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:09 magnuse @wunder marseille
11:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (1:09 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
11:09 magnuse hah!
11:13 cait hi magnuse .)
11:13 cait how is your parental leave?
11:13 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
11:13 cait you win today :)
11:16 magnuse cait: really, really hot this week
11:16 magnuse :-)
11:16 magnuse but very nice
11:16 cait glad you got nice weather :)
11:17 magnuse yeah, very lucky so far
11:18 magnuse makes everything a bit easier
11:18 magnuse except today it's almost too hot to go outside
11:18 * cait is fighting invisible suggestions...
11:18 cait hm and invisible translation errors - showing up in po but not in pootle
11:20 magnuse sounds like fun!
11:20 magnuse why not tackle some windmills while you are at it?
11:27 barton morning, all!
11:30 barton @later tell oleonard ping me when you get in, I've got questions about modifying .tt files
11:30 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
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12:10 magnuse have fun #koha!
12:14 barton quick question -- are item deletions tracked in the statistics table? I have a partner who thinks that they are, or at least should be...
12:15 barton Everything that I've seen in the database seems to indicate that they aren't.
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12:28 francharb good morning!
12:28 bag barton: deleteditems
12:28 bag morning
12:28 wahanui morning is a state of cat
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12:35 barton morning bag!
12:35 bag good morning barton
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12:40 oleonard Hi #koha
12:40 tcohen morning
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12:44 bgkriegel Hi
12:46 bgkriegel cait?
12:46 wahanui cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1
12:47 tcohen hi bgkriegel
12:47 bgkriegel hola tcohen
12:48 bgkriegel still can't beleive what we saw yesterday
12:49 tcohen yeah
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13:19 cait in shock?
13:19 cait bgkriegel: i have a pootle problem
13:20 bgkriegel hi cait :)
13:20 bgkriegel reading the logs, I saw that
13:20 bgkriegel what's the problem?
13:20 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
13:20 cait when i export the 3.16 po files - i have an error in poedit
13:20 cait it's the same error my coworker reported to me when updating the test installation to 3.16.1
13:20 cait so far so good
13:20 cait but i can't find it in pootle :(
13:21 bgkriegel ok, let me see. Some hint?
13:21 cait looking for the email with the translator scriptoutput
13:21 cait one sec
13:22 cait
13:23 bgkriegel ok
13:33 bag cait what is germany's favorite drink?
13:33 cait probably something i don't like
13:33 bag 7UP
13:33 bag :P
13:33 cait lol
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13:38 druthb silly bag!
13:38 cait bgkriegel: sorry to bother you, i think i could have tried uploading a corrected file, but it irriated me :)
13:39 bgkriegel np cait, I'm fighting with pootle :(
13:39 cait hope you win
13:39 bgkriegel search results are not showing
13:43 tcohen bgkriegel: is zebra running? :-P :-P
13:43 tcohen heh
13:43 bgkriegel hehe
13:45 cait bgkriegel: it showed results for me, but not the problemtic entry
13:52 bgkriegel cait: on pootle files are ok, there is no problem. Checking files on 3.16.1
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13:56 bgkriegel cait: sorry, i was wrong. Problem exist :(
14:03 cait :(
14:03 bgkriegel cait: done! on opac prog as fuzzy
14:04 bgkriegel strange anyway
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14:06 cait bgkriegel++
14:06 cait fixed! thx a lot
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14:07 tcohen morning
14:07 tcohen dejavu
14:08 bag cait: How many hearts were broken yesterday?
14:09 bag A Brazilian
14:09 bag heh
14:09 rhcl bad bad bag
14:10 oleonard :D
14:10 tcohen heh
14:21 fALSO Hi
14:21 fALSO Im having a little problem with koha-rebuild-zebra
14:22 fALSO $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha
14:22 fALSO sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo
14:22 fALSO Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for koha
14:22 fALSO sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo
14:22 fALSO Something went wrong rebuilding authority indexes for koha
14:22 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO.
14:22 fALSO Anyone knows what the problem can be ?
14:22 fALSO just happens with koha-rebuild-zebra
14:22 fALSO all the others ran perfectly
14:26 oleonard fALSO: "sudo" elevates the privileges of the current user, which you wouldn't need to do with the root user. However, I'm not sure if there are consequences of using the root user to run commands in a package installation.
14:26 fALSO I know what sudo does
14:26 fALSO The rebuild-zebra script is doing something wrong
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14:32 tcohen fALSO: what the problem is actually?
14:32 tcohen oleonard: koha-rebuild-zebra (specifically) launches the script with the proper user id
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14:34 tcohen bug 12545
14:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add EditorConfig file to the source tree
14:34 tcohen :-D
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14:44 Joubu gmcharlt: around ?
14:45 gmcharlt Joubu: hmm?
14:45 Joubu gmcharlt: could you have a look at my comment and patch on bug 11518 please?
14:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype
14:45 gmcharlt I'll take a look
14:46 Joubu gmcharlt: I really don't know if I am wrong, or if it's the current code.
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15:39 reiveune bye
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15:40 bgkriegel Bug 12472, someone can reproduce the error?
15:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12472 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away"
15:44 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Errors from running t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" (22 lines) at
15:45 oleonard Errors, but not the one mentioned in the bug
15:46 Joubu bgkriegel: no error here
15:47 bgkriegel no errors for me too
15:49 Joubu bgkriegel: I let a (very) quick note on the bug report
15:50 bgkriegel Joubu: thanks :)
15:51 bgkriegel Joubu: I was testing batch record deletion, I can delete records with issues, need to test more I think
15:55 bgkriegel Joubu: other question: which unimarc version you use: complet, lecture_pub or both? and why libopac is almost always empty?
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16:52 fALSO How can one see if Zebra indexed anything
16:53 fALSO is there anything simple to query it ?
16:53 fALSO I think that the index was correctly made... but on opac I dont get any results on a search
16:54 jcamins oleonard: you're a better man than I.
16:56 oleonard On some days I like the challenge.
16:57 fALSO Do you guys know I can I find what type is defined in a KOHA instalation?
16:57 fALSO If its MARC21 or USMARC or other
16:57 jcamins oleonard: prior to the last message I was considering sending an e-mail suggesting that he actually test rather than guessing random unrelated bugs.
16:58 * jcamins has thought better.
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17:16 wajasu fALSO: configs are in $KOHACONF/etc/koha-conf.xml .   if you can find the  .../koha-install.log  it has info on  ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT  and more.  not sure if/where packages might put that.  maybe under misc directory
17:16 fALSO thank you wajasu
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18:28 oleonard barton: You should not include a change to the OPAC prog theme in your patch for Bug 12546 unless it is a separate patch
18:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add 'OCLC Number' as search item for staff client and OPAC advanced search pages
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18:31 barton oleonard, just scratched that from the bug.
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19:24 bag good luck tcohen :)
19:26 oleonard Is there any consensus on whitespace changes now being okay given git's ability to ignore it?
19:32 tcohen hi bag
19:32 tcohen thanks
19:34 * cait waves
19:35 cait oleonard: i wanted to put it on next meetings agenda
19:35 cait in order to maybe change the coding guideline
19:42 * druthb suggests that oleonard redo the templating system using the Whitespace programming language.  She's evil like that, you know.
19:43 oleonard :P
19:43 druthb Or LOLCODE:
19:43 druthb HAI
19:43 druthb CAN HAS STDIO?
19:43 druthb VISIBLE "books n patrons n stuff"
19:43 druthb KTHXBYE
19:45 druthb oleonard is so awesome, he'll have that done before suppertime.
20:07 oleonard Bye #koha
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20:52 gaetan_B bye !
20:52 rangi cya gaetan_B
20:56 thd rangi: Are you going to conduct the meeting?
20:57 rangi most likely, unless someone else is around
20:57 thd rangi: Please see the note which added to the agenda about the code of conduct.
21:00 thd I have been without a home internet connection for too much of the past month to do everything needed to have a discussion on the mailing list.
21:01 thd rangi: Only today my local telco has again repaired my internet connection.
21:34 gmcharlt rangi: thd: I'm around as well
21:35 gmcharlt and folks, reminder, IRC meeting in 25 minutes -[…]_and_10_July_2014
21:35 rangi sweet, im happy to let you chair if you want gmcharlt
21:35 gmcharlt sure
21:36 bag I'm here for a little bit
21:36 rangi im currently having a look how hard it is to get this up and running, and how hard a dockbook xml to rst transform is going to be
21:44 rangi good grief every game involving the netherlands is a snorefest
21:44 rangi please dont let that style of game win the world cup or we will have 4 years of it
21:44 bag HA
21:45 bag rangi - how many hearts where broken yesterday?
21:45 rangi a brazilian
21:45 bag what's the german's favorite drink
21:45 rangi 7up
21:45 bag 7UP
21:45 bag booo
21:45 bag heh
21:45 rangi heh
21:46 bag I woke up at 4am today too
21:46 gmcharlt are you two angling for an evening comedy duo routine at KohaCon?
21:46 bag thought I was up early enough
21:46 bag nah rangi did that in reno with his rambling
21:46 rangi oh good idea
21:46 bag :)
21:46 rangi you can do bird calls
21:46 bag who cooks for you!
21:46 rangi nate can do some card tricks
21:46 gmcharlt I hope you all enjoy the fresh produce of Argentina ;)
21:47 bag I'm afraid I will probably miss the fresh produce ;)
21:48 bag unless they serve grilled lettuce
21:48 bag that sounds so ...  lovely
21:49 eythian hi
21:49 wahanui hey, eythian
21:51 * cait waves
21:51 cait around but tired, might fall asleep during the meeting
21:51 eythian that's what all meetings are for
21:54 eythian I see that roadtype thing has popped up again. Sounds like we need a "create if it doesn't exist" sorta thing perhaps
21:55 eythian though, it's a table that's been around for ages, I wonder where it's going.
21:57 cait it's been deleted
21:57 cait and moved into an authorisd value
21:57 cait i guess the problem is tht the patch also went into a maintenance release
21:57 cait so then it might try to delete again a table that does not exsit
21:57 eythian ah
21:58 eythian so I guess all deletes should be delete unless exists
21:58 eythian err, drop unless...
21:58 eythian err, unless not exists
21:58 eythian /morning
22:00 gmcharlt to be honest, I don't see why back-porting 7372 to 3.14.x was that urgent
22:01 gmcharlt but yeah, any DB updates that get back-ported to a maintenance branch *must* be adjusted to not blow up like that
22:01 gmcharlt anyhoo
22:01 gmcharlt #startmeeting General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1
22:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jul  9 22:01:33 2014 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at
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22:01 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
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22:02 gmcharlt #info Agenda is[…]_and_10_July_2014
22:02 gmcharlt #topic Introductions
22:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
22:02 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:02 gmcharlt #info Galen Charlton, Equinox Software
22:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer
22:02 eythian #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ
22:03 rangi #info chris cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ
22:03 thd Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
22:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
22:03 bgkriegel #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina
22:04 gmcharlt and now we have an open question
22:04 gmcharlt which will finish first...
22:04 gmcharlt this meeting, or the World Cup game?
22:05 gmcharlt :)
22:05 bgkriegel Hehe
22:05 gmcharlt #topic Announcements
22:05 Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:05 gmcharlt any annoucements that folks care to make?
22:05 bag #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
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22:06 rangi im looking into a nicer way to do documentation, hoopefully something web based
22:06 cait cool :)
22:06 cait rangi++
22:06 rangi just so we can lower the barrier a bit
22:06 gmcharlt asciidoc or something like that?
22:06 rangi something like that
22:06 rangi probably restructured text
22:07 * bag was pleased to see the effort on working on bug 11703  - thanks to all of you invovled
22:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
22:07 bag and rangi cool
22:07 rangi testing getting running locally for now
22:08 dani joined #koha
22:08 gmcharlt #info Chris Cormack is investigating an alternative markup language and infrastructure for the manual, such as restructed text
22:08 cait looks interesting
22:09 gmcharlt any other announcements?
22:09 rhcl #info Greg Lawson
22:09 gmcharlt going
22:09 gmcharlt once
22:09 gmcharlt #topic Update on maintenance releases
22:09 Topic for #koha is now Update on maintenance releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.16.1 released on 27 June
22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.14.8 released on 26 June
22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.12.13 released on 24 June
22:10 gmcharlt any other updates from rmaints?
22:11 gmcharlt #topic Update on 3.18
22:11 Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.18 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:12 cait no tcohen
22:12 gmcharlt I am calling for a GSBD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8
22:12 rangi cool
22:12 bgkriegel cool
22:12 gmcharlt if folks have an issue with the date, please weigh in now
22:12 cait gmcharlt++
22:12 cait i should be able to be around
22:12 rangi yep me too
22:13 cait is this only for testingor also for fixing the remaining issues?
22:13 gmcharlt #info Galen Charlton is calling a GBSD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 work (bug 11944)
22:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
22:13 gmcharlt cait: well, I don't think anybody will be turning down patches if folks both find and fix issues then
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22:14 cait :)
22:14 gmcharlt any other ocmments on 3.18?
22:14 rangi nope
22:14 gmcharlt #topic Code of Conduct
22:14 Topic for #koha is now Code of Conduct (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:14 bgkriegel there are same patches for PROG/CCSR deprecation awaiting signs
22:15 bgkriegel late sorry
22:15 gmcharlt first off, I've received private feedback from two individuals and am working on patches against the draft code of conduct
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22:15 gmcharlt for that reason, and because of last-minute concerns expressed by thd, I propose that the vote be deferred to the August meeting
22:16 gmcharlt at this point, I also suggest that any substantive comments be done on the mailing list, not durnig this meeting
22:16 thd I will have some more patches after the HOPE conference in a little over a week.
22:17 thd s/more/more public/
22:17 gmcharlt ok
22:17 gmcharlt if folks have any objection to deferring the vote to August, please express them now
22:17 gmcharlt going once
22:18 bag none
22:18 gmcharlt going twice
22:18 thd I also am preparing to contact the Software Freedom Law Center to see if they would have time to comment on some later draft.
22:18 cait ok for me
22:19 thd s/draft/drafts/
22:19 gmcharlt #agreed To allow more time for discussion and edits, the vote on the Code of Conduct is deferred to the August meeting
22:21 gmcharlt moving on
22:21 gmcharlt #topic KohaCon 2014
22:21 Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2014 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:21 gmcharlt bgkriegel: do you have any update for us?
22:22 bgkriegel No new, we are working to finish preparations
22:22 bgkriegel until now, all is ok
22:23 gmcharlt great
22:23 gmcharlt any questions for Bernardo?
22:24 gmcharlt OK, moving on
22:25 gmcharlt #topic KohaCon 2015
22:25 Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2015 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:25 rangi still really only 1 proposal
22:25 rangi i think we should set a deadline
22:25 rangi and email that
22:25 bag anybody hear if someone else is thinking about submitting?
22:25 bag I haven't heard such news
22:25 gmcharlt #info As of now, we have one bid for Ibadan, Nigeria by Projektlink Konsult Ltd, and an expression of interest but no proposal yet for hosting it in Zambia
22:25 rangi[…]haCon15_Proposals
22:26 gmcharlt #link[…]haCon15_Proposals
22:26 rangi maybe a month, then a vote
22:26 rangi 'You have exactly one month to put in a proposal' type email
22:26 gmcharlt ok, so if we roudn up to a Friday, how about 15 August?
22:27 rangi sounds good
22:27 gmcharlt thd: can you send the email?
22:27 thd Yes
22:28 gmcharlt #agreed A deadline of 15 August is set for proposals to host the 2015 conference
22:28 gmcharlt #action thd will send an email announcing the deadline
22:29 gmcharlt #topic Actions items from previous meeting
22:29 Topic for #koha is now Actions items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:29 gmcharlt #info All action items from the previous meeting have occurred
22:30 gmcharlt #topic Set time of next meeting
22:30 Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1)
22:30 gmcharlt so, how about 13 and 14 August, 22 and 15 UTC?
22:31 cait ok forme
22:31 bgkriegel ok
22:32 rangi +1
22:32 bag yup
22:33 gmcharlt #agreed pending confirmation, the next general IRC meeting is scheduled in two parts: 22 UTC on 13 August and 15 UTC on 14 August
22:33 thd +1
22:33 gmcharlt and now the burning question... will Argentina and the Netherlands still be at it by then?
22:33 cait they are...
22:33 cait oh
22:33 cait by then... probably not
22:34 gmcharlt you never know... ;)
22:34 bag hopes not
22:34 * bag has to leave soon
22:34 gmcharlt #endmeeting
22:34 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 9 and 10 July 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha Please use for pastes.
22:34 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jul  9 22:34:17 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)
22:34 huginn Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-09-22.01.html
22:34 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-07-09-22.01.txt
22:34 huginn Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-22.01.log.html
22:34 cait gmcharlt++
22:35 bag I don't really like penalty kicks
22:35 bgkriegel no other way :(
22:36 rangi brb
22:37 bgkriegel no goals today, all spent yesterday
22:37 cait ah
22:37 cait out of goals...that explains
22:37 bgkriegel :)
22:40 cait argentina!
22:40 wahanui i heard argentina was in for kohacon13
22:42 bgkriegel YES!!!
22:42 bgkriegel closer...
22:43 cait wahanui: forget argentina!
22:43 wahanui cait: I forgot argentina
22:43 cait argentina is hosting KohaCon14!
22:43 cait argentina!
22:43 wahanui argentina is hosting KohaCon14!
22:44 bgkriegel done!
22:44 cait not yet here :)
22:44 cait now :)
22:44 cait woohoo :)
22:45 bgkriegel :)
22:45 cait can i sitll come to kohacon if germany should win?
22:45 bgkriegel Hehe, yes... and that's the expected result
22:46 bag wow go argentina
22:46 cait they might have used up all the goals
22:47 bgkriegel don't think so :)
22:48 bgkriegel it's the best team so far
22:49 rangi as long as its not 120 mins of no goals
22:49 rangi ill be happy
22:49 bgkriegel yeap
22:50 cait me too
23:00 bgkriegel bye
23:04 cait @marc 035
23:04 huginn cait: A control number of a system other than the one whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number), field 010 (Library of Congress Control Number) or field 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control Number). (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8]
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23:16 dac I cannot believe that I've missed the entire world cup...
23:16 cait you didn't
23:16 cait there are finals on sunday
23:16 dac Well, not quite yet :p
23:16 * dac ponders
23:16 dac I think that would be Monday for me?
23:17 dac World Cup was definitely easier to follow in North America...
23:19 dcook Hmm, SBS has replays...
23:19 cait i am not sure i'd recommend watching it again
23:20 dcook But it's the first time for me :(
23:20 cait you could just go to minute... 100 or so
23:20 dcook In 2006, I had to work during the day when the games played for the first time, but I'd watch the replays in the evening after work with pizza and beer
23:20 dcook :O
23:20 dcook blasphemy
23:21 dcook Teenage dcook could never do such a thing
23:21 dcook I suppose grown up dcook might care less...but no!
23:21 cait night
23:21 cait :)
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23:35 dcook bgkriegel++ #sign off machine

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