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thd |
rangi: Are you present presently? |
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embiopterid |
Hello. I recently upgraded my koha installation on ubuntu 12.04. Now, I can still see the biblios in mysql, but they don't appear in searches. Any ideas on how I can fix this? |
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eythian |
how have you installed Koha? |
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embiopterid |
I used the ubuntu packages |
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eythian |
OK, then try: sudo service koha-common restart |
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eythian |
I'd also recommend doing a full reindex, it's a good idea after an upgrade: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v -v libraryname |
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embiopterid |
restart didn't help. Let me try the rebuild. |
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eythian |
check to make sure you have the zebra server running, too. It's possible it's not starting for some reason. |
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eythian |
see what the result of "ps ax|grep [z]ebra" is |
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embiopterid |
zebrasrv is running. Still no results. They were errors when I did the rebuild. It said "error retrieving biblio (number) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 679." |
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embiopterid |
There were a few such errors. |
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eythian |
hmm. that doesn't bode particularly well. |
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embiopterid |
I think you mean auger well :) |
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eythian |
when I can't get searches working, I usually run zebrasrv manually in the foreground. It'll display a lot of debug information that may be useful. |
| 03:57 |
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embiopterid |
Ya, I don't want to start over again, but there's only 140 titles in their right now so it wouldn't be the worst tragedy. |
| 03:58 |
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embiopterid |
Oh, ok. I guess I'll try that. Do I just kill the process and run it? I'm not that familiar with koha architecture yet...is there a specific command to use? |
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eythian |
there's usually two reasons that searches don't work, when the daemon is running: one is that nothing is actually indexed, the other is that something's wrong with the on-disk database. |
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embiopterid |
The mysql database? |
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eythian |
zebra database |
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embiopterid |
Ah. Can it just be scrapped and rebuild from the mysql database, or is it not all in there? |
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eythian |
the command will be something like: sudo koha-shell -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml' |
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eythian |
sudo koha-shell libraryname -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml' |
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eythian |
rather |
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eythian |
or maybe you put the instancename on the the end. |
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eythian |
I think you do. |
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eythian |
the rebuild-zebra command is what rebuilds the zebra index from mysql |
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eythian |
--full makes it reindex everything |
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embiopterid |
That's what I thought. So if it has errors when rebuilding, does that mean something is wrong with the mysql records? |
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eythian |
maybe |
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eythian |
most likely, in this case |
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eythian |
there are some errors that cause the whole thing to abort, and other errors that just cause that record to be skipped |
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embiopterid |
Shouldn't I see some output when I run zebra in the koha-shell when I search in a browser? |
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eythian |
yes |
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eythian |
it should be fairly chatty |
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embiopterid |
I don't/ |
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eythian |
do you see anything at all, i.e. when you start the command? |
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eythian |
also, have you done service koha-common stop first to make sure the other one isn't running? |
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embiopterid |
Yes. There dont seem to be any errors. And yes, I stopped koha-common, but let's try it one more time. |
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eythian |
hmm |
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eythian |
I wonder if something's changed in the koha-conf.xml that's causing it. |
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embiopterid |
still nothing. |
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wahanui |
nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
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embiopterid |
wahanui: ? |
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wahanui |
embiopterid: bugger all, i dunno |
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embiopterid |
Actually, now that you mention it the upgrade did overwrite the xml and I had to fix it. I'll check that. |
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eythian |
it shouldn't |
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embiopterid |
It did though. |
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eythian |
it can't |
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embiopterid |
There might have been a problem with the installation because the disk was full for a bit and I didn't notice. I'm running it in a kvm virtual machine. |
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eythian |
the packages don't know that the sites/ subdirectory exists. |
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eythian |
ah |
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eythian |
so there could be deeper issues here |
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eythian |
tried doing apt-get install --reinstall koha-common |
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eythian |
wahanui: explain yourself is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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embiopterid |
If I can get it working, I'll probably reinstall the virtual machine. Or really, either way, cuz I'm sure not everything is koshur. |
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eythian |
it's very suspicious that Koha doesn't seem to be talking to zebra at all. |
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embiopterid |
Ya, and it still isn't. |
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embiopterid |
Where is that configured? |
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eythian |
/etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml - but you pretty much never have to mess with it. |
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embiopterid |
I don't understand how that file could have been changed if the package manager didn't know about it anyway :\ |
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eythian |
it can't |
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eythian |
not by the package manager, anyway |
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eythian |
Really, the only thing that writes to it is koha-create when you first set up the instance. |
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eythian |
I don't think we have any upgrade processes modifying it: it's generally too risky |
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embiopterid |
I guess I'll just have to figure out why nothing is talking to the zebra server. Thanks for helping me narrow it down. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
kia ora, alex_a |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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dcook |
morning cait |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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nlegrand |
hey #koha o/ |
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fALSO |
good morning |
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mle |
: ) |
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fALSO |
Im having a little problem with Koha on Debian |
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fALSO |
On Debian 6.x there was a bug on a perl module on DBIX |
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fALSO |
so I tried a dist-upgrade... for that perl module to be upgraded |
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fALSO |
now... apt-get install koha-common doesnt even install :-X |
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fALSO |
The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
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fALSO |
koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed |
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fALSO |
Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed |
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fALSO |
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, fALSO. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, fALSO. |
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fALSO |
Anyone knows what to do? |
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fALSO |
On which Debian version is the apt-get install method supposed to work ? |
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fALSO |
No one? |
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wahanui |
No one is saying a word, soooooo |
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ashimema |
squeeze and wheezy are both tested fALSO |
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fALSO |
Im trying with squeeze ashimema |
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fALSO |
oops wheezy |
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fALSO |
ashimema, http://pastebin.com/p1mPstRb |
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fALSO |
I dont believe its quite tested on wheezy |
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fALSO |
can you try to help me out ? |
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ashimema |
works first time every time on wheezy for me i'm afraid |
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fALSO |
:( |
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ashimema |
those a zebra dependencies.. you could try adding the indexdata repositories to get the latest versions if you like.. but really you shouldn't need to. |
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fALSO |
managed to fix it :-D |
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cait |
bgkriegel? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that bgkriegel is on a signoff spree |
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* magnuse |
waves relaxedly |
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magnuse |
sorry, i just gotta do this... |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 26.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (1:09 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
hah! |
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cait |
hi magnuse .) |
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cait |
how is your parental leave? |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
you win today :) |
| 11:16 |
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magnuse |
cait: really, really hot this week |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
but very nice |
| 11:16 |
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cait |
glad you got nice weather :) |
| 11:17 |
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magnuse |
yeah, very lucky so far |
| 11:18 |
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magnuse |
makes everything a bit easier |
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magnuse |
except today it's almost too hot to go outside |
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* cait |
is fighting invisible suggestions... |
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cait |
hm and invisible translation errors - showing up in po but not in pootle |
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magnuse |
sounds like fun! |
| 11:20 |
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magnuse |
why not tackle some windmills while you are at it? |
| 11:27 |
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barton |
morning, all! |
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barton |
@later tell oleonard ping me when you get in, I've got questions about modifying .tt files |
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huginn |
barton: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
| 12:14 |
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barton |
quick question -- are item deletions tracked in the statistics table? I have a partner who thinks that they are, or at least should be... |
| 12:15 |
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barton |
Everything that I've seen in the database seems to indicate that they aren't. |
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francharb |
good morning! |
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bag |
barton: deleteditems |
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bag |
morning |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of cat |
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barton |
morning bag! |
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bag |
good morning barton |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
morning |
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bgkriegel |
Hi |
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bgkriegel |
cait? |
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wahanui |
cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1 |
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tcohen |
hi bgkriegel |
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bgkriegel |
hola tcohen |
| 12:48 |
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bgkriegel |
still can't beleive what we saw yesterday |
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tcohen |
yeah |
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cait |
in shock? |
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cait |
bgkriegel: i have a pootle problem |
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bgkriegel |
hi cait :) |
| 13:20 |
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bgkriegel |
reading the logs, I saw that |
| 13:20 |
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bgkriegel |
what's the problem? |
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wahanui |
the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
when i export the 3.16 po files - i have an error in poedit |
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cait |
it's the same error my coworker reported to me when updating the test installation to 3.16.1 |
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cait |
so far so good |
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cait |
but i can't find it in pootle :( |
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bgkriegel |
ok, let me see. Some hint? |
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cait |
looking for the email with the translator scriptoutput |
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cait |
one sec |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/81 |
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bgkriegel |
ok |
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bag |
cait what is germany's favorite drink? |
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cait |
probably something i don't like |
| 13:33 |
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bag |
7UP |
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bag |
:P |
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cait |
lol |
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druthb |
silly bag! |
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cait |
bgkriegel: sorry to bother you, i think i could have tried uploading a corrected file, but it irriated me :) |
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bgkriegel |
np cait, I'm fighting with pootle :( |
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cait |
hope you win |
| 13:39 |
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bgkriegel |
search results are not showing |
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tcohen |
bgkriegel: is zebra running? :-P :-P |
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tcohen |
heh |
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bgkriegel |
hehe |
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cait |
bgkriegel: it showed results for me, but not the problemtic entry |
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bgkriegel |
cait: on pootle files are ok, there is no problem. Checking files on 3.16.1 |
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bgkriegel |
cait: sorry, i was wrong. Problem exist :( |
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cait |
:( |
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bgkriegel |
cait: done! on opac prog as fuzzy |
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bgkriegel |
strange anyway |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ |
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cait |
fixed! thx a lot |
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tcohen |
morning |
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tcohen |
dejavu |
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bag |
cait: How many hearts were broken yesterday? |
| 14:09 |
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bag |
A Brazilian |
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bag |
heh |
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rhcl |
bad bad bag |
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oleonard |
:D |
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tcohen |
heh |
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fALSO |
Hi |
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fALSO |
Im having a little problem with koha-rebuild-zebra |
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fALSO |
$ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha |
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fALSO |
sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo |
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fALSO |
Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for koha |
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fALSO |
sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo |
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fALSO |
Something went wrong rebuilding authority indexes for koha |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, fALSO. |
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fALSO |
Anyone knows what the problem can be ? |
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fALSO |
just happens with koha-rebuild-zebra |
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fALSO |
all the others ran perfectly |
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oleonard |
fALSO: "sudo" elevates the privileges of the current user, which you wouldn't need to do with the root user. However, I'm not sure if there are consequences of using the root user to run commands in a package installation. |
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fALSO |
I know what sudo does |
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fALSO |
The rebuild-zebra script is doing something wrong |
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tcohen |
fALSO: what the problem is actually? |
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tcohen |
oleonard: koha-rebuild-zebra (specifically) launches the rebuild_zebra.pl script with the proper user id |
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tcohen |
bug 12545 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add EditorConfig file to the source tree |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: around ? |
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gmcharlt |
Joubu: hmm? |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: could you have a look at my comment and patch on bug 11518 please? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype |
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gmcharlt |
I'll take a look |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt: I really don't know if I am wrong, or if it's the current code. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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bgkriegel |
Bug 12472, someone can reproduce the error? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12472 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away" |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors from running t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/83 |
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oleonard |
Errors, but not the one mentioned in the bug |
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Joubu |
bgkriegel: no error here |
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bgkriegel |
no errors for me too |
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Joubu |
bgkriegel: I let a (very) quick note on the bug report |
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bgkriegel |
Joubu: thanks :) |
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bgkriegel |
Joubu: I was testing batch record deletion, I can delete records with issues, need to test more I think |
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bgkriegel |
Joubu: other question: which unimarc version you use: complet, lecture_pub or both? and why libopac is almost always empty? |
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fALSO |
How can one see if Zebra indexed anything |
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fALSO |
is there anything simple to query it ? |
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fALSO |
I think that the index was correctly made... but on opac I dont get any results on a search |
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jcamins |
oleonard: you're a better man than I. |
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oleonard |
On some days I like the challenge. |
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fALSO |
Do you guys know I can I find what type is defined in a KOHA instalation? |
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fALSO |
If its MARC21 or USMARC or other |
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jcamins |
oleonard: prior to the last message I was considering sending an e-mail suggesting that he actually test rather than guessing random unrelated bugs. |
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has thought better. |
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wajasu |
fALSO: configs are in $KOHACONF/etc/koha-conf.xml . if you can find the .../koha-install.log it has info on ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT and more. not sure if/where packages might put that. maybe under misc directory |
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fALSO |
thank you wajasu |
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oleonard |
barton: You should not include a change to the OPAC prog theme in your patch for Bug 12546 unless it is a separate patch |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add 'OCLC Number' as search item for staff client and OPAC advanced search pages |
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barton |
oleonard, just scratched that from the bug. |
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bag |
good luck tcohen :) |
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oleonard |
Is there any consensus on whitespace changes now being okay given git's ability to ignore it? |
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tcohen |
hi bag |
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tcohen |
thanks |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
oleonard: i wanted to put it on next meetings agenda |
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cait |
in order to maybe change the coding guideline |
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* druthb |
suggests that oleonard redo the templating system using the Whitespace programming language. She's evil like that, you know. |
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oleonard |
:P |
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druthb |
Or LOLCODE: |
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druthb |
HAI |
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druthb |
CAN HAS STDIO? |
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druthb |
VISIBLE "books n patrons n stuff" |
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druthb |
KTHXBYE |
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druthb |
oleonard is so awesome, he'll have that done before suppertime. |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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rangi |
cya gaetan_B |
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thd |
rangi: Are you going to conduct the meeting? |
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rangi |
most likely, unless someone else is around |
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thd |
rangi: Please see the note which added to the agenda about the code of conduct. |
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thd |
I have been without a home internet connection for too much of the past month to do everything needed to have a discussion on the mailing list. |
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thd |
rangi: Only today my local telco has again repaired my internet connection. |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: thd: I'm around as well |
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gmcharlt |
and folks, reminder, IRC meeting in 25 minutes - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_and_10_July_2014 |
| 21:35 |
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rangi |
sweet, im happy to let you chair if you want gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
sure |
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bag |
I'm here for a little bit |
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rangi |
im currently having a look how hard it is to get this up and running, and how hard a dockbook xml to rst transform is going to be |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
good grief every game involving the netherlands is a snorefest |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
please dont let that style of game win the world cup or we will have 4 years of it |
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bag |
HA |
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bag |
rangi - how many hearts where broken yesterday? |
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rangi |
a brazilian |
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bag |
what's the german's favorite drink |
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rangi |
7up |
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bag |
7UP |
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bag |
booo |
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bag |
heh |
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rangi |
heh |
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bag |
I woke up at 4am today too |
| 21:46 |
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gmcharlt |
are you two angling for an evening comedy duo routine at KohaCon? |
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bag |
thought I was up early enough |
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bag |
nah rangi did that in reno with his rambling |
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rangi |
oh good idea |
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bag |
:) |
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rangi |
you can do bird calls |
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bag |
who cooks for you! |
| 21:46 |
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rangi |
nate can do some card tricks |
| 21:46 |
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gmcharlt |
I hope you all enjoy the fresh produce of Argentina ;) |
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bag |
I'm afraid I will probably miss the fresh produce ;) |
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bag |
unless they serve grilled lettuce |
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bag |
that sounds so ... lovely |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, eythian |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
around but tired, might fall asleep during the meeting |
| 21:51 |
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eythian |
that's what all meetings are for |
| 21:54 |
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eythian |
I see that roadtype thing has popped up again. Sounds like we need a "create if it doesn't exist" sorta thing perhaps |
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eythian |
though, it's a table that's been around for ages, I wonder where it's going. |
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cait |
it's been deleted |
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cait |
and moved into an authorisd value |
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cait |
i guess the problem is tht the patch also went into a maintenance release |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
so then it might try to delete again a table that does not exsit |
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eythian |
ah |
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eythian |
so I guess all deletes should be delete unless exists |
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eythian |
err, drop unless... |
| 21:58 |
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eythian |
err, unless not exists |
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eythian |
/morning |
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gmcharlt |
to be honest, I don't see why back-porting 7372 to 3.14.x was that urgent |
| 22:01 |
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gmcharlt |
but yeah, any DB updates that get back-ported to a maintenance branch *must* be adjusted to not blow up like that |
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gmcharlt |
anyhoo |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jul 9 22:01:33 2014 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1' |
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gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_and_10_July_2014 |
| 22:02 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, Equinox Software |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer |
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eythian |
#info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ |
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rangi |
#info chris cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ |
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thd |
Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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bgkriegel |
#info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina |
| 22:04 |
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gmcharlt |
and now we have an open question |
| 22:04 |
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gmcharlt |
which will finish first... |
| 22:04 |
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gmcharlt |
this meeting, or the World Cup game? |
| 22:05 |
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gmcharlt |
:) |
| 22:05 |
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bgkriegel |
Hehe |
| 22:05 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Announcements |
| 22:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:05 |
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gmcharlt |
any annoucements that folks care to make? |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
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rangi |
im looking into a nicer way to do documentation, hoopefully something web based |
| 22:06 |
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cait |
cool :) |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
just so we can lower the barrier a bit |
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gmcharlt |
asciidoc or something like that? |
| 22:06 |
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rangi |
something like that |
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rangi |
probably restructured text |
| 22:07 |
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* bag |
was pleased to see the effort on working on bug 11703 - thanks to all of you invovled |
| 22:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 22:07 |
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bag |
and rangi cool |
| 22:07 |
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rangi |
testing getting https://notex.ch/home/?theme=gray running locally for now |
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gmcharlt |
#info Chris Cormack is investigating an alternative markup language and infrastructure for the manual, such as restructed text |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
looks interesting |
| 22:09 |
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gmcharlt |
any other announcements? |
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rhcl |
#info Greg Lawson |
| 22:09 |
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gmcharlt |
going |
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gmcharlt |
once |
| 22:09 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on maintenance releases |
| 22:09 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on maintenance releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:10 |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.16.1 released on 27 June |
| 22:10 |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.14.8 released on 26 June |
| 22:10 |
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gmcharlt |
#info 3.12.13 released on 24 June |
| 22:10 |
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gmcharlt |
any other updates from rmaints? |
| 22:11 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Update on 3.18 |
| 22:11 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.18 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:12 |
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cait |
no tcohen |
| 22:12 |
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gmcharlt |
I am calling for a GSBD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 |
| 22:12 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 22:12 |
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bgkriegel |
cool |
| 22:12 |
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gmcharlt |
if folks have an issue with the date, please weigh in now |
| 22:12 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
i should be able to be around |
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rangi |
yep me too |
| 22:13 |
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cait |
is this only for testingor also for fixing the remaining issues? |
| 22:13 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton is calling a GBSD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 work (bug 11944) |
| 22:13 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 22:13 |
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gmcharlt |
cait: well, I don't think anybody will be turning down patches if folks both find and fix issues then |
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cait |
:) |
| 22:14 |
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gmcharlt |
any other ocmments on 3.18? |
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rangi |
nope |
| 22:14 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Code of Conduct |
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Topic for #koha is now Code of Conduct (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:14 |
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bgkriegel |
there are same patches for PROG/CCSR deprecation awaiting signs |
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bgkriegel |
late sorry |
| 22:15 |
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gmcharlt |
first off, I've received private feedback from two individuals and am working on patches against the draft code of conduct |
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gmcharlt |
for that reason, and because of last-minute concerns expressed by thd, I propose that the vote be deferred to the August meeting |
| 22:16 |
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gmcharlt |
at this point, I also suggest that any substantive comments be done on the mailing list, not durnig this meeting |
| 22:16 |
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thd |
I will have some more patches after the HOPE conference in a little over a week. |
| 22:17 |
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thd |
s/more/more public/ |
| 22:17 |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
if folks have any objection to deferring the vote to August, please express them now |
| 22:17 |
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gmcharlt |
going once |
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bag |
none |
| 22:18 |
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gmcharlt |
going twice |
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thd |
I also am preparing to contact the Software Freedom Law Center to see if they would have time to comment on some later draft. |
| 22:18 |
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cait |
ok for me |
| 22:19 |
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thd |
s/draft/drafts/ |
| 22:19 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed To allow more time for discussion and edits, the vote on the Code of Conduct is deferred to the August meeting |
| 22:21 |
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gmcharlt |
moving on |
| 22:21 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic KohaCon 2014 |
| 22:21 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2014 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:21 |
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gmcharlt |
bgkriegel: do you have any update for us? |
| 22:22 |
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bgkriegel |
No new, we are working to finish preparations |
| 22:22 |
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bgkriegel |
until now, all is ok |
| 22:23 |
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gmcharlt |
great |
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gmcharlt |
any questions for Bernardo? |
| 22:24 |
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gmcharlt |
OK, moving on |
| 22:25 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic KohaCon 2015 |
| 22:25 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2015 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
still really only 1 proposal |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
i think we should set a deadline |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
and email that |
| 22:25 |
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bag |
anybody hear if someone else is thinking about submitting? |
| 22:25 |
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bag |
I haven't heard such news |
| 22:25 |
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gmcharlt |
#info As of now, we have one bid for Ibadan, Nigeria by Projektlink Konsult Ltd, and an expression of interest but no proposal yet for hosting it in Zambia |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon15_Proposals |
| 22:26 |
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gmcharlt |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon15_Proposals |
| 22:26 |
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rangi |
maybe a month, then a vote |
| 22:26 |
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rangi |
'You have exactly one month to put in a proposal' type email |
| 22:26 |
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gmcharlt |
ok, so if we roudn up to a Friday, how about 15 August? |
| 22:27 |
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rangi |
sounds good |
| 22:27 |
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gmcharlt |
thd: can you send the email? |
| 22:27 |
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thd |
Yes |
| 22:28 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed A deadline of 15 August is set for proposals to host the 2015 conference |
| 22:28 |
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gmcharlt |
#action thd will send an email announcing the deadline |
| 22:29 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Actions items from previous meeting |
| 22:29 |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:29 |
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gmcharlt |
#info All action items from the previous meeting have occurred |
| 22:30 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 22:30 |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1) |
| 22:30 |
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gmcharlt |
so, how about 13 and 14 August, 22 and 15 UTC? |
| 22:31 |
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cait |
ok forme |
| 22:31 |
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bgkriegel |
ok |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
+1 |
| 22:32 |
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bag |
yup |
| 22:33 |
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gmcharlt |
#agreed pending confirmation, the next general IRC meeting is scheduled in two parts: 22 UTC on 13 August and 15 UTC on 14 August |
| 22:33 |
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thd |
+1 |
| 22:33 |
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gmcharlt |
and now the burning question... will Argentina and the Netherlands still be at it by then? |
| 22:33 |
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cait |
they are... |
| 22:33 |
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cait |
oh |
| 22:33 |
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cait |
by then... probably not |
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gmcharlt |
you never know... ;) |
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bag |
hopes not |
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* bag |
has to leave soon |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 9 and 10 July 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 22:34:17 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-09-22.01.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-07-09-22.01.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-22.01.log.html |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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bag |
I don't really like penalty kicks |
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bgkriegel |
no other way :( |
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rangi |
brb |
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bgkriegel |
no goals today, all spent yesterday |
| 22:37 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
out of goals...that explains |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
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cait |
argentina! |
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wahanui |
i heard argentina was in for kohacon13 |
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bgkriegel |
YES!!! |
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bgkriegel |
closer... |
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cait |
wahanui: forget argentina! |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot argentina |
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cait |
argentina is hosting KohaCon14! |
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cait |
argentina! |
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wahanui |
argentina is hosting KohaCon14! |
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bgkriegel |
done! |
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cait |
not yet here :) |
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cait |
now :) |
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cait |
woohoo :) |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
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cait |
can i sitll come to kohacon if germany should win? |
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bgkriegel |
Hehe, yes... and that's the expected result |
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bag |
wow go argentina |
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cait |
they might have used up all the goals |
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bgkriegel |
don't think so :) |
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bgkriegel |
it's the best team so far |
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rangi |
as long as its not 120 mins of no goals |
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rangi |
ill be happy |
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bgkriegel |
yeap |
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cait |
me too |
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bgkriegel |
bye |
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cait |
@marc 035 |
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huginn |
cait: A control number of a system other than the one whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number), field 010 (Library of Congress Control Number) or field 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control Number). (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8] |
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dac |
I cannot believe that I've missed the entire world cup... |
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cait |
you didn't |
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cait |
there are finals on sunday |
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dac |
Well, not quite yet :p |
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* dac |
ponders |
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dac |
I think that would be Monday for me? |
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dac |
World Cup was definitely easier to follow in North America... |
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dcook |
Hmm, SBS has replays... |
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cait |
i am not sure i'd recommend watching it again |
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dcook |
But it's the first time for me :( |
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cait |
you could just go to minute... 100 or so |
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dcook |
In 2006, I had to work during the day when the games played for the first time, but I'd watch the replays in the evening after work with pizza and beer |
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dcook |
:O |
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dcook |
blasphemy |
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dcook |
Teenage dcook could never do such a thing |
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dcook |
I suppose grown up dcook might care less...but no! |
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cait |
night |
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cait |
:) |
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dcook |
bgkriegel++ #sign off machine |
