Time Nick Message 03:10 thd rangi: Are you present presently? 03:49 embiopterid Hello. I recently upgraded my koha installation on ubuntu 12.04. Now, I can still see the biblios in mysql, but they don't appear in searches. Any ideas on how I can fix this? 03:50 eythian how have you installed Koha? 03:50 embiopterid I used the ubuntu packages 03:51 eythian OK, then try: sudo service koha-common restart 03:52 eythian I'd also recommend doing a full reindex, it's a good idea after an upgrade: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v -v libraryname 03:52 embiopterid restart didn't help. Let me try the rebuild. 03:53 eythian check to make sure you have the zebra server running, too. It's possible it's not starting for some reason. 03:53 eythian see what the result of "ps ax|grep [z]ebra" is 03:56 embiopterid zebrasrv is running. Still no results. They were errors when I did the rebuild. It said "error retrieving biblio (number) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 679." 03:56 embiopterid There were a few such errors. 03:56 eythian hmm. that doesn't bode particularly well. 03:57 embiopterid I think you mean auger well :) 03:57 eythian when I can't get searches working, I usually run zebrasrv manually in the foreground. It'll display a lot of debug information that may be useful. 03:57 embiopterid Ya, I don't want to start over again, but there's only 140 titles in their right now so it wouldn't be the worst tragedy. 03:58 embiopterid Oh, ok. I guess I'll try that. Do I just kill the process and run it? I'm not that familiar with koha architecture yet...is there a specific command to use? 03:58 eythian there's usually two reasons that searches don't work, when the daemon is running: one is that nothing is actually indexed, the other is that something's wrong with the on-disk database. 03:59 embiopterid The mysql database? 03:59 eythian zebra database 03:59 embiopterid Ah. Can it just be scrapped and rebuild from the mysql database, or is it not all in there? 04:00 eythian the command will be something like: sudo koha-shell -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml' 04:00 eythian sudo koha-shell libraryname -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml' 04:00 eythian rather 04:01 eythian or maybe you put the instancename on the the end. 04:01 eythian I think you do. 04:02 eythian the rebuild-zebra command is what rebuilds the zebra index from mysql 04:02 eythian --full makes it reindex everything 04:02 embiopterid That's what I thought. So if it has errors when rebuilding, does that mean something is wrong with the mysql records? 04:03 eythian maybe 04:03 eythian most likely, in this case 04:03 eythian there are some errors that cause the whole thing to abort, and other errors that just cause that record to be skipped 04:18 embiopterid Shouldn't I see some output when I run zebra in the koha-shell when I search in a browser? 04:18 eythian yes 04:18 eythian it should be fairly chatty 04:18 embiopterid I don't/ 04:19 eythian do you see anything at all, i.e. when you start the command? 04:19 eythian also, have you done service koha-common stop first to make sure the other one isn't running? 04:20 embiopterid Yes. There dont seem to be any errors. And yes, I stopped koha-common, but let's try it one more time. 04:20 eythian hmm 04:20 eythian I wonder if something's changed in the koha-conf.xml that's causing it. 04:21 embiopterid still nothing. 04:21 wahanui nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though 04:21 embiopterid wahanui: ? 04:21 wahanui embiopterid: bugger all, i dunno 04:22 embiopterid Actually, now that you mention it the upgrade did overwrite the xml and I had to fix it. I'll check that. 04:22 eythian it shouldn't 04:23 embiopterid It did though. 04:23 eythian it can't 04:24 embiopterid There might have been a problem with the installation because the disk was full for a bit and I didn't notice. I'm running it in a kvm virtual machine. 04:24 eythian the packages don't know that the sites/ subdirectory exists. 04:24 eythian ah 04:24 eythian so there could be deeper issues here 04:24 eythian tried doing apt-get install --reinstall koha-common 04:25 eythian wahanui: explain yourself is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 04:25 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:25 embiopterid If I can get it working, I'll probably reinstall the virtual machine. Or really, either way, cuz I'm sure not everything is koshur. 04:26 eythian it's very suspicious that Koha doesn't seem to be talking to zebra at all. 04:27 embiopterid Ya, and it still isn't. 04:27 embiopterid Where is that configured? 04:28 eythian /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml - but you pretty much never have to mess with it. 04:28 embiopterid I don't understand how that file could have been changed if the package manager didn't know about it anyway :\ 04:29 eythian it can't 04:29 eythian not by the package manager, anyway 04:29 eythian Really, the only thing that writes to it is koha-create when you first set up the instance. 04:29 eythian I don't think we have any upgrade processes modifying it: it's generally too risky 04:31 embiopterid I guess I'll just have to figure out why nothing is talking to the zebra server. Thanks for helping me narrow it down. 06:35 reiveune hello 06:59 alex_a bonjour 06:59 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:17 cait good morning #koha 07:18 dcook morning cait 07:18 gaetan_B hello 07:24 nlegrand hey #koha o/ 08:19 fALSO good morning 08:35 mle : ) 09:14 fALSO Im having a little problem with Koha on Debian 09:14 fALSO On Debian 6.x there was a bug on a perl module on DBIX 09:14 fALSO so I tried a dist-upgrade... for that perl module to be upgraded 09:15 fALSO now... apt-get install koha-common doesnt even install :-X 09:15 fALSO The following packages have unmet dependencies: 09:15 fALSO koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed 09:15 fALSO Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed 09:15 fALSO E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 09:15 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO. 09:15 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO. 09:15 fALSO Anyone knows what to do? 09:31 fALSO On which Debian version is the apt-get install method supposed to work ? 09:35 fALSO No one? 09:35 wahanui No one is saying a word, soooooo 09:41 ashimema squeeze and wheezy are both tested fALSO 09:43 fALSO Im trying with squeeze ashimema 09:43 fALSO oops wheezy 09:44 fALSO ashimema, http://pastebin.com/p1mPstRb 09:44 fALSO I dont believe its quite tested on wheezy 09:45 fALSO can you try to help me out ? 09:45 ashimema works first time every time on wheezy for me i'm afraid 09:46 fALSO :( 09:47 ashimema those a zebra dependencies.. you could try adding the indexdata repositories to get the latest versions if you like.. but really you shouldn't need to. 10:35 fALSO managed to fix it :-D 10:47 cait bgkriegel? 10:47 wahanui it has been said that bgkriegel is on a signoff spree 11:08 * magnuse waves relaxedly 11:08 magnuse sorry, i just gotta do this... 11:08 magnuse @wunder boo 11:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 26.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 11:09 magnuse @wunder marseille 11:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (1:09 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 11:09 magnuse hah! 11:13 cait hi magnuse .) 11:13 cait how is your parental leave? 11:13 cait @wunder Konstanz 11:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 11:13 cait you win today :) 11:16 magnuse cait: really, really hot this week 11:16 magnuse :-) 11:16 magnuse but very nice 11:16 cait glad you got nice weather :) 11:17 magnuse yeah, very lucky so far 11:18 magnuse makes everything a bit easier 11:18 magnuse except today it's almost too hot to go outside 11:18 * cait is fighting invisible suggestions... 11:18 cait hm and invisible translation errors - showing up in po but not in pootle 11:20 magnuse sounds like fun! 11:20 magnuse why not tackle some windmills while you are at it? 11:27 barton morning, all! 11:30 barton @later tell oleonard ping me when you get in, I've got questions about modifying .tt files 11:30 huginn barton: The operation succeeded. 12:10 magnuse have fun #koha! 12:14 barton quick question -- are item deletions tracked in the statistics table? I have a partner who thinks that they are, or at least should be... 12:15 barton Everything that I've seen in the database seems to indicate that they aren't. 12:28 francharb good morning! 12:28 bag barton: deleteditems 12:28 bag morning 12:28 wahanui morning is a state of cat 12:35 barton morning bag! 12:35 bag good morning barton 12:40 oleonard Hi #koha 12:40 tcohen morning 12:44 bgkriegel Hi 12:46 bgkriegel cait? 12:46 wahanui cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1 12:47 tcohen hi bgkriegel 12:47 bgkriegel hola tcohen 12:48 bgkriegel still can't beleive what we saw yesterday 12:49 tcohen yeah 13:19 cait in shock? 13:19 cait bgkriegel: i have a pootle problem 13:20 bgkriegel hi cait :) 13:20 bgkriegel reading the logs, I saw that 13:20 bgkriegel what's the problem? 13:20 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 13:20 cait when i export the 3.16 po files - i have an error in poedit 13:20 cait it's the same error my coworker reported to me when updating the test installation to 3.16.1 13:20 cait so far so good 13:20 cait but i can't find it in pootle :( 13:21 bgkriegel ok, let me see. Some hint? 13:21 cait looking for the email with the translator scriptoutput 13:21 cait one sec 13:22 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/81 13:23 bgkriegel ok 13:33 bag cait what is germany's favorite drink? 13:33 cait probably something i don't like 13:33 bag 7UP 13:33 bag :P 13:33 cait lol 13:38 druthb silly bag! 13:38 cait bgkriegel: sorry to bother you, i think i could have tried uploading a corrected file, but it irriated me :) 13:39 bgkriegel np cait, I'm fighting with pootle :( 13:39 cait hope you win 13:39 bgkriegel search results are not showing 13:43 tcohen bgkriegel: is zebra running? :-P :-P 13:43 tcohen heh 13:43 bgkriegel hehe 13:45 cait bgkriegel: it showed results for me, but not the problemtic entry 13:52 bgkriegel cait: on pootle files are ok, there is no problem. Checking files on 3.16.1 13:56 bgkriegel cait: sorry, i was wrong. Problem exist :( 14:03 cait :( 14:03 bgkriegel cait: done! on opac prog as fuzzy 14:04 bgkriegel strange anyway 14:06 cait bgkriegel++ 14:06 cait fixed! thx a lot 14:07 tcohen morning 14:07 tcohen dejavu 14:08 bag cait: How many hearts were broken yesterday? 14:09 bag A Brazilian 14:09 bag heh 14:09 rhcl bad bad bag 14:10 oleonard :D 14:10 tcohen heh 14:21 fALSO Hi 14:21 fALSO Im having a little problem with koha-rebuild-zebra 14:22 fALSO $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha 14:22 fALSO sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo 14:22 fALSO Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for koha 14:22 fALSO sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo 14:22 fALSO Something went wrong rebuilding authority indexes for koha 14:22 wahanui i already had it that way, fALSO. 14:22 fALSO Anyone knows what the problem can be ? 14:22 fALSO just happens with koha-rebuild-zebra 14:22 fALSO all the others ran perfectly 14:26 oleonard fALSO: "sudo" elevates the privileges of the current user, which you wouldn't need to do with the root user. However, I'm not sure if there are consequences of using the root user to run commands in a package installation. 14:26 fALSO I know what sudo does 14:26 fALSO The rebuild-zebra script is doing something wrong 14:32 tcohen fALSO: what the problem is actually? 14:32 tcohen oleonard: koha-rebuild-zebra (specifically) launches the rebuild_zebra.pl script with the proper user id 14:34 tcohen bug 12545 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add EditorConfig file to the source tree 14:34 tcohen :-D 14:44 Joubu gmcharlt: around ? 14:45 gmcharlt Joubu: hmm? 14:45 Joubu gmcharlt: could you have a look at my comment and patch on bug 11518 please? 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 14:45 gmcharlt I'll take a look 14:46 Joubu gmcharlt: I really don't know if I am wrong, or if it's the current code. 15:39 reiveune bye 15:40 bgkriegel Bug 12472, someone can reproduce the error? 15:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12472 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away" 15:44 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors from running t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/83 15:45 oleonard Errors, but not the one mentioned in the bug 15:46 Joubu bgkriegel: no error here 15:47 bgkriegel no errors for me too 15:49 Joubu bgkriegel: I let a (very) quick note on the bug report 15:50 bgkriegel Joubu: thanks :) 15:51 bgkriegel Joubu: I was testing batch record deletion, I can delete records with issues, need to test more I think 15:55 bgkriegel Joubu: other question: which unimarc version you use: complet, lecture_pub or both? and why libopac is almost always empty? 16:52 fALSO How can one see if Zebra indexed anything 16:53 fALSO is there anything simple to query it ? 16:53 fALSO I think that the index was correctly made... but on opac I dont get any results on a search 16:54 jcamins oleonard: you're a better man than I. 16:56 oleonard On some days I like the challenge. 16:57 fALSO Do you guys know I can I find what type is defined in a KOHA instalation? 16:57 fALSO If its MARC21 or USMARC or other 16:57 jcamins oleonard: prior to the last message I was considering sending an e-mail suggesting that he actually test rather than guessing random unrelated bugs. 16:58 * jcamins has thought better. 17:16 wajasu fALSO: configs are in $KOHACONF/etc/koha-conf.xml . if you can find the .../koha-install.log it has info on ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT and more. not sure if/where packages might put that. maybe under misc directory 17:16 fALSO thank you wajasu 18:28 oleonard barton: You should not include a change to the OPAC prog theme in your patch for Bug 12546 unless it is a separate patch 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add 'OCLC Number' as search item for staff client and OPAC advanced search pages 18:31 barton oleonard, just scratched that from the bug. 19:24 bag good luck tcohen :) 19:26 oleonard Is there any consensus on whitespace changes now being okay given git's ability to ignore it? 19:32 tcohen hi bag 19:32 tcohen thanks 19:34 * cait waves 19:35 cait oleonard: i wanted to put it on next meetings agenda 19:35 cait in order to maybe change the coding guideline 19:42 * druthb suggests that oleonard redo the templating system using the Whitespace programming language. She's evil like that, you know. 19:43 oleonard :P 19:43 druthb Or LOLCODE: 19:43 druthb HAI 19:43 druthb CAN HAS STDIO? 19:43 druthb VISIBLE "books n patrons n stuff" 19:43 druthb KTHXBYE 19:45 druthb oleonard is so awesome, he'll have that done before suppertime. 20:07 oleonard Bye #koha 20:52 gaetan_B bye ! 20:52 rangi cya gaetan_B 20:56 thd rangi: Are you going to conduct the meeting? 20:57 rangi most likely, unless someone else is around 20:57 thd rangi: Please see the note which added to the agenda about the code of conduct. 21:00 thd I have been without a home internet connection for too much of the past month to do everything needed to have a discussion on the mailing list. 21:01 thd rangi: Only today my local telco has again repaired my internet connection. 21:34 gmcharlt rangi: thd: I'm around as well 21:35 gmcharlt and folks, reminder, IRC meeting in 25 minutes - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_9_and_10_July_2014 21:35 rangi sweet, im happy to let you chair if you want gmcharlt 21:35 gmcharlt sure 21:36 bag I'm here for a little bit 21:36 rangi im currently having a look how hard it is to get this up and running, and how hard a dockbook xml to rst transform is going to be 21:44 rangi good grief every game involving the netherlands is a snorefest 21:44 rangi please dont let that style of game win the world cup or we will have 4 years of it 21:44 bag HA 21:45 bag rangi - how many hearts where broken yesterday? 21:45 rangi a brazilian 21:45 bag what's the german's favorite drink 21:45 rangi 7up 21:45 bag 7UP 21:45 bag booo 21:45 bag heh 21:45 rangi heh 21:46 bag I woke up at 4am today too 21:46 gmcharlt are you two angling for an evening comedy duo routine at KohaCon? 21:46 bag thought I was up early enough 21:46 bag nah rangi did that in reno with his rambling 21:46 rangi oh good idea 21:46 bag :) 21:46 rangi you can do bird calls 21:46 bag who cooks for you! 21:46 rangi nate can do some card tricks 21:46 gmcharlt I hope you all enjoy the fresh produce of Argentina ;) 21:47 bag I'm afraid I will probably miss the fresh produce ;) 21:48 bag unless they serve grilled lettuce 21:48 bag that sounds so ... lovely 21:49 eythian hi 21:49 wahanui hey, eythian 21:51 * cait waves 21:51 cait around but tired, might fall asleep during the meeting 21:51 eythian that's what all meetings are for 21:54 eythian I see that roadtype thing has popped up again. Sounds like we need a "create if it doesn't exist" sorta thing perhaps 21:55 eythian though, it's a table that's been around for ages, I wonder where it's going. 21:57 cait it's been deleted 21:57 cait and moved into an authorisd value 21:57 cait i guess the problem is tht the patch also went into a maintenance release 21:57 cait so then it might try to delete again a table that does not exsit 21:57 eythian ah 21:58 eythian so I guess all deletes should be delete unless exists 21:58 eythian err, drop unless... 21:58 eythian err, unless not exists 21:58 eythian /morning 22:00 gmcharlt to be honest, I don't see why back-porting 7372 to 3.14.x was that urgent 22:01 gmcharlt but yeah, any DB updates that get back-ported to a maintenance branch *must* be adjusted to not blow up like that 22:01 gmcharlt anyhoo 22:01 gmcharlt #startmeeting General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1 22:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jul 9 22:01:33 2014 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1' 22:02 gmcharlt #info Agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_9_and_10_July_2014 22:02 gmcharlt #topic Introductions 22:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 22:02 gmcharlt #info Galen Charlton, Equinox Software 22:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer 22:02 eythian #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ 22:03 rangi #info chris cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ 22:03 thd Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 22:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 22:03 bgkriegel #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina 22:04 gmcharlt and now we have an open question 22:04 gmcharlt which will finish first... 22:04 gmcharlt this meeting, or the World Cup game? 22:05 gmcharlt :) 22:05 bgkriegel Hehe 22:05 gmcharlt #topic Announcements 22:05 gmcharlt any annoucements that folks care to make? 22:05 bag #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater 22:06 rangi im looking into a nicer way to do documentation, hoopefully something web based 22:06 cait cool :) 22:06 cait rangi++ 22:06 rangi just so we can lower the barrier a bit 22:06 gmcharlt asciidoc or something like that? 22:06 rangi something like that 22:06 rangi probably restructured text 22:07 * bag was pleased to see the effort on working on bug 11703 - thanks to all of you invovled 22:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 22:07 bag and rangi cool 22:07 rangi testing getting https://notex.ch/home/?theme=gray running locally for now 22:08 gmcharlt #info Chris Cormack is investigating an alternative markup language and infrastructure for the manual, such as restructed text 22:08 cait looks interesting 22:09 gmcharlt any other announcements? 22:09 rhcl #info Greg Lawson 22:09 gmcharlt going 22:09 gmcharlt once 22:09 gmcharlt #topic Update on maintenance releases 22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.16.1 released on 27 June 22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.14.8 released on 26 June 22:10 gmcharlt #info 3.12.13 released on 24 June 22:10 gmcharlt any other updates from rmaints? 22:11 gmcharlt #topic Update on 3.18 22:12 cait no tcohen 22:12 gmcharlt I am calling for a GSBD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 22:12 rangi cool 22:12 bgkriegel cool 22:12 gmcharlt if folks have an issue with the date, please weigh in now 22:12 cait gmcharlt++ 22:12 cait i should be able to be around 22:12 rangi yep me too 22:13 cait is this only for testingor also for fixing the remaining issues? 22:13 gmcharlt #info Galen Charlton is calling a GBSD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 work (bug 11944) 22:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 22:13 gmcharlt cait: well, I don't think anybody will be turning down patches if folks both find and fix issues then 22:14 cait :) 22:14 gmcharlt any other ocmments on 3.18? 22:14 rangi nope 22:14 gmcharlt #topic Code of Conduct 22:14 bgkriegel there are same patches for PROG/CCSR deprecation awaiting signs 22:15 bgkriegel late sorry 22:15 gmcharlt first off, I've received private feedback from two individuals and am working on patches against the draft code of conduct 22:15 gmcharlt for that reason, and because of last-minute concerns expressed by thd, I propose that the vote be deferred to the August meeting 22:16 gmcharlt at this point, I also suggest that any substantive comments be done on the mailing list, not durnig this meeting 22:16 thd I will have some more patches after the HOPE conference in a little over a week. 22:17 thd s/more/more public/ 22:17 gmcharlt ok 22:17 gmcharlt if folks have any objection to deferring the vote to August, please express them now 22:17 gmcharlt going once 22:18 bag none 22:18 gmcharlt going twice 22:18 thd I also am preparing to contact the Software Freedom Law Center to see if they would have time to comment on some later draft. 22:18 cait ok for me 22:19 thd s/draft/drafts/ 22:19 gmcharlt #agreed To allow more time for discussion and edits, the vote on the Code of Conduct is deferred to the August meeting 22:21 gmcharlt moving on 22:21 gmcharlt #topic KohaCon 2014 22:21 gmcharlt bgkriegel: do you have any update for us? 22:22 bgkriegel No new, we are working to finish preparations 22:22 bgkriegel until now, all is ok 22:23 gmcharlt great 22:23 gmcharlt any questions for Bernardo? 22:24 gmcharlt OK, moving on 22:25 gmcharlt #topic KohaCon 2015 22:25 rangi still really only 1 proposal 22:25 rangi i think we should set a deadline 22:25 rangi and email that 22:25 bag anybody hear if someone else is thinking about submitting? 22:25 bag I haven't heard such news 22:25 gmcharlt #info As of now, we have one bid for Ibadan, Nigeria by Projektlink Konsult Ltd, and an expression of interest but no proposal yet for hosting it in Zambia 22:25 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon15_Proposals 22:26 gmcharlt #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon15_Proposals 22:26 rangi maybe a month, then a vote 22:26 rangi 'You have exactly one month to put in a proposal' type email 22:26 gmcharlt ok, so if we roudn up to a Friday, how about 15 August? 22:27 rangi sounds good 22:27 gmcharlt thd: can you send the email? 22:27 thd Yes 22:28 gmcharlt #agreed A deadline of 15 August is set for proposals to host the 2015 conference 22:28 gmcharlt #action thd will send an email announcing the deadline 22:29 gmcharlt #topic Actions items from previous meeting 22:29 gmcharlt #info All action items from the previous meeting have occurred 22:30 gmcharlt #topic Set time of next meeting 22:30 gmcharlt so, how about 13 and 14 August, 22 and 15 UTC? 22:31 cait ok forme 22:31 bgkriegel ok 22:32 rangi +1 22:32 bag yup 22:33 gmcharlt #agreed pending confirmation, the next general IRC meeting is scheduled in two parts: 22 UTC on 13 August and 15 UTC on 14 August 22:33 thd +1 22:33 gmcharlt and now the burning question... will Argentina and the Netherlands still be at it by then? 22:33 cait they are... 22:33 cait oh 22:33 cait by then... probably not 22:34 gmcharlt you never know... ;) 22:34 bag hopes not 22:34 * bag has to leave soon 22:34 gmcharlt #endmeeting 22:34 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 22:34:17 2014 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 22:34 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.html 22:34 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.txt 22:34 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.log.html 22:34 cait gmcharlt++ 22:35 bag I don't really like penalty kicks 22:35 bgkriegel no other way :( 22:36 rangi brb 22:37 bgkriegel no goals today, all spent yesterday 22:37 cait ah 22:37 cait out of goals...that explains 22:37 bgkriegel :) 22:40 cait argentina! 22:40 wahanui i heard argentina was in for kohacon13 22:42 bgkriegel YES!!! 22:42 bgkriegel closer... 22:43 cait wahanui: forget argentina! 22:43 wahanui cait: I forgot argentina 22:43 cait argentina is hosting KohaCon14! 22:43 cait argentina! 22:43 wahanui argentina is hosting KohaCon14! 22:44 bgkriegel done! 22:44 cait not yet here :) 22:44 cait now :) 22:44 cait woohoo :) 22:45 bgkriegel :) 22:45 cait can i sitll come to kohacon if germany should win? 22:45 bgkriegel Hehe, yes... and that's the expected result 22:46 bag wow go argentina 22:46 cait they might have used up all the goals 22:47 bgkriegel don't think so :) 22:48 bgkriegel it's the best team so far 22:49 rangi as long as its not 120 mins of no goals 22:49 rangi ill be happy 22:49 bgkriegel yeap 22:50 cait me too 23:00 bgkriegel bye 23:04 cait @marc 035 23:04 huginn cait: A control number of a system other than the one whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number), field 010 (Library of Congress Control Number) or field 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control Number). (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8] 23:16 dac I cannot believe that I've missed the entire world cup... 23:16 cait you didn't 23:16 cait there are finals on sunday 23:16 dac Well, not quite yet :p 23:16 * dac ponders 23:16 dac I think that would be Monday for me? 23:17 dac World Cup was definitely easier to follow in North America... 23:19 dcook Hmm, SBS has replays... 23:19 cait i am not sure i'd recommend watching it again 23:20 dcook But it's the first time for me :( 23:20 cait you could just go to minute... 100 or so 23:20 dcook In 2006, I had to work during the day when the games played for the first time, but I'd watch the replays in the evening after work with pizza and beer 23:20 dcook :O 23:20 dcook blasphemy 23:21 dcook Teenage dcook could never do such a thing 23:21 dcook I suppose grown up dcook might care less...but no! 23:21 cait night 23:21 cait :) 23:35 dcook bgkriegel++ #sign off machine