Time  Nick        Message
23:35 dcook       bgkriegel++ #sign off machine
23:21 cait        :)
23:21 cait        night
23:21 dcook       I suppose grown up dcook might care less...but no!
23:21 dcook       Teenage dcook could never do such a thing
23:20 dcook       blasphemy
23:20 dcook       :O
23:20 dcook       In 2006, I had to work during the day when the games played for the first time, but I'd watch the replays in the evening after work with pizza and beer
23:20 cait        you could just go to minute... 100 or so
23:20 dcook       But it's the first time for me :(
23:19 cait        i am not sure i'd recommend watching it again
23:19 dcook       Hmm, SBS has replays...
23:17 dac         World Cup was definitely easier to follow in North America...
23:16 dac         I think that would be Monday for me?
23:16 * dac       ponders
23:16 dac         Well, not quite yet :p
23:16 cait        there are finals on sunday
23:16 cait        you didn't
23:16 dac         I cannot believe that I've missed the entire world cup...
23:04 huginn      cait: A control number of a system other than the one whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number), field 010 (Library of Congress Control Number) or field 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control Number). (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8]
23:04 cait        @marc 035
23:00 bgkriegel   bye
22:50 cait        me too
22:49 bgkriegel   yeap
22:49 rangi       ill be happy
22:49 rangi       as long as its not 120 mins of no goals
22:48 bgkriegel   it's the best team so far
22:47 bgkriegel   don't think so :)
22:46 cait        they might have used up all the goals
22:46 bag         wow go argentina
22:45 bgkriegel   Hehe, yes... and that's the expected result
22:45 cait        can i sitll come to kohacon if germany should win?
22:45 bgkriegel   :)
22:44 cait        woohoo :)
22:44 cait        now :)
22:44 cait        not yet here :)
22:44 bgkriegel   done!
22:43 wahanui     argentina is hosting KohaCon14!
22:43 cait        argentina!
22:43 cait        argentina is hosting KohaCon14!
22:43 wahanui     cait: I forgot argentina
22:43 cait        wahanui: forget argentina!
22:42 bgkriegel   closer...
22:42 bgkriegel   YES!!!
22:40 wahanui     i heard argentina was in for kohacon13
22:40 cait        argentina!
22:37 bgkriegel   :)
22:37 cait        out of goals...that explains
22:37 cait        ah
22:37 bgkriegel   no goals today, all spent yesterday
22:36 rangi       brb
22:35 bgkriegel   no other way :(
22:35 bag         I don't really like penalty kicks
22:34 cait        gmcharlt++
22:34 huginn      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.log.html
22:34 huginn      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.txt
22:34 huginn      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1.2014-07-09-22.01.html
22:34 huginn      Meeting ended Wed Jul  9 22:34:17 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
22:34 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
22:34 * bag       has to leave soon
22:34 bag         hopes not
22:34 gmcharlt    you never know... ;)
22:33 cait        by then... probably not
22:33 cait        oh
22:33 cait        they are...
22:33 gmcharlt    and now the burning question... will Argentina and the Netherlands still be at it by then?
22:33 thd         +1
22:33 gmcharlt    #agreed pending confirmation, the next general IRC meeting is scheduled in two parts: 22 UTC on 13 August and 15 UTC on 14 August
22:32 bag         yup
22:32 rangi       +1
22:31 bgkriegel   ok
22:31 cait        ok forme
22:30 gmcharlt    so, how about 13 and 14 August, 22 and 15 UTC?
22:30 gmcharlt    #topic Set time of next meeting
22:29 gmcharlt    #info All action items from the previous meeting have occurred
22:29 gmcharlt    #topic Actions items from previous meeting
22:28 gmcharlt    #action thd will send an email announcing the deadline
22:28 gmcharlt    #agreed A deadline of 15 August is set for proposals to host the 2015 conference
22:27 thd         Yes
22:27 gmcharlt    thd: can you send the email?
22:27 rangi       sounds good
22:26 gmcharlt    ok, so if we roudn up to a Friday, how about 15 August?
22:26 rangi       'You have exactly one month to put in a proposal' type email
22:26 rangi       maybe a month, then a vote
22:26 gmcharlt    #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon15_Proposals
22:25 rangi       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon15_Proposals
22:25 gmcharlt    #info As of now, we have one bid for Ibadan, Nigeria by Projektlink Konsult Ltd, and an expression of interest but no proposal yet for hosting it in Zambia
22:25 bag         I haven't heard such news
22:25 bag         anybody hear if someone else is thinking about submitting?
22:25 rangi       and email that
22:25 rangi       i think we should set a deadline
22:25 rangi       still really only 1 proposal
22:25 gmcharlt    #topic KohaCon 2015
22:24 gmcharlt    OK, moving on
22:23 gmcharlt    any questions for Bernardo?
22:23 gmcharlt    great
22:22 bgkriegel   until now, all is ok
22:22 bgkriegel   No new, we are working to finish preparations
22:21 gmcharlt    bgkriegel: do you have any update for us?
22:21 gmcharlt    #topic KohaCon 2014
22:21 gmcharlt    moving on
22:19 gmcharlt    #agreed To allow more time for discussion and edits, the vote on the Code of Conduct is deferred to the August meeting
22:19 thd         s/draft/drafts/
22:18 cait        ok for me
22:18 thd         I also am preparing to contact the Software Freedom Law Center to see if they would have time to comment on some later draft.
22:18 gmcharlt    going twice
22:18 bag         none
22:17 gmcharlt    going once
22:17 gmcharlt    if folks have any objection to deferring the vote to August, please express them now
22:17 gmcharlt    ok
22:17 thd         s/more/more public/
22:16 thd         I will have some more patches after the HOPE conference in a little over a week.
22:16 gmcharlt    at this point, I also suggest that any substantive comments be done on the mailing list, not durnig this meeting
22:15 gmcharlt    for that reason, and because of last-minute concerns expressed by thd, I propose that the vote be deferred to the August meeting
22:15 gmcharlt    first off, I've received private feedback from two individuals and am working on patches against the draft code of conduct
22:15 bgkriegel   late sorry
22:14 bgkriegel   there are same patches for PROG/CCSR deprecation awaiting signs
22:14 gmcharlt    #topic Code of Conduct
22:14 rangi       nope
22:14 gmcharlt    any other ocmments on 3.18?
22:14 cait        :)
22:13 gmcharlt    cait: well, I don't think anybody will be turning down patches if folks both find and fix issues then
22:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
22:13 gmcharlt    #info Galen Charlton is calling a GBSD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8 work (bug 11944)
22:13 cait        is this only for testingor also for fixing the remaining issues?
22:12 rangi       yep me too
22:12 cait        i should be able to be around
22:12 cait        gmcharlt++
22:12 gmcharlt    if folks have an issue with the date, please weigh in now
22:12 bgkriegel   cool
22:12 rangi       cool
22:12 gmcharlt    I am calling for a GSBD on 23 July for testing of the UTF8
22:12 cait        no tcohen
22:11 gmcharlt    #topic Update on 3.18
22:10 gmcharlt    any other updates from rmaints?
22:10 gmcharlt    #info 3.12.13 released on 24 June
22:10 gmcharlt    #info 3.14.8 released on 26 June
22:10 gmcharlt    #info 3.16.1 released on 27 June
22:09 gmcharlt    #topic Update on maintenance releases
22:09 gmcharlt    once
22:09 gmcharlt    going
22:09 rhcl        #info Greg Lawson
22:09 gmcharlt    any other announcements?
22:08 cait        looks interesting
22:08 gmcharlt    #info Chris Cormack is investigating an alternative markup language and infrastructure for the manual, such as restructed text
22:07 rangi       testing getting https://notex.ch/home/?theme=gray running locally for now
22:07 bag         and rangi cool
22:07 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
22:07 * bag       was pleased to see the effort on working on bug 11703  - thanks to all of you invovled
22:06 rangi       probably restructured text
22:06 rangi       something like that
22:06 gmcharlt    asciidoc or something like that?
22:06 rangi       just so we can lower the barrier a bit
22:06 cait        rangi++
22:06 cait        cool :)
22:06 rangi       im looking into a nicer way to do documentation, hoopefully something web based
22:05 bag         #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
22:05 gmcharlt    any annoucements that folks care to make?
22:05 gmcharlt    #topic Announcements
22:05 bgkriegel   Hehe
22:05 gmcharlt    :)
22:04 gmcharlt    this meeting, or the World Cup game?
22:04 gmcharlt    which will finish first...
22:04 gmcharlt    and now we have an open question
22:03 bgkriegel   #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina
22:03 thd         #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
22:03 thd         Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
22:03 rangi       #info chris cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ
22:02 eythian     #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ
22:02 cait        #info Katrin Fischer
22:02 gmcharlt    #info Galen Charlton, Equinox Software
22:02 wahanui     #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
22:02 gmcharlt    #topic Introductions
22:02 gmcharlt    #info Agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_9_and_10_July_2014
22:01 huginn      The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__9_july_2014__part_1'
22:01 huginn      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
22:01 huginn      Meeting started Wed Jul  9 22:01:33 2014 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
22:01 gmcharlt    #startmeeting General IRC meeting, 9 July 2014, part 1
22:01 gmcharlt    anyhoo
22:01 gmcharlt    but yeah, any DB updates that get back-ported to a maintenance branch *must* be adjusted to not blow up like that
22:00 gmcharlt    to be honest, I don't see why back-porting 7372 to 3.14.x was that urgent
21:58 eythian     /morning
21:58 eythian     err, unless not exists
21:58 eythian     err, drop unless...
21:58 eythian     so I guess all deletes should be delete unless exists
21:57 eythian     ah
21:57 cait        so then it might try to delete again a table that does not exsit
21:57 cait        i guess the problem is tht the patch also went into a maintenance release
21:57 cait        and moved into an authorisd value
21:57 cait        it's been deleted
21:55 eythian     though, it's a table that's been around for ages, I wonder where it's going.
21:54 eythian     I see that roadtype thing has popped up again. Sounds like we need a "create if it doesn't exist" sorta thing perhaps
21:51 eythian     that's what all meetings are for
21:51 cait        around but tired, might fall asleep during the meeting
21:51 * cait      waves
21:49 wahanui     hey, eythian
21:49 eythian     hi
21:48 bag         that sounds so ...  lovely
21:48 bag         unless they serve grilled lettuce
21:47 bag         I'm afraid I will probably miss the fresh produce ;)
21:46 gmcharlt    I hope you all enjoy the fresh produce of Argentina ;)
21:46 rangi       nate can do some card tricks
21:46 bag         who cooks for you!
21:46 rangi       you can do bird calls
21:46 bag         :)
21:46 rangi       oh good idea
21:46 bag         nah rangi did that in reno with his rambling
21:46 bag         thought I was up early enough
21:46 gmcharlt    are you two angling for an evening comedy duo routine at KohaCon?
21:46 bag         I woke up at 4am today too
21:45 rangi       heh
21:45 bag         heh
21:45 bag         booo
21:45 bag         7UP
21:45 rangi       7up
21:45 bag         what's the german's favorite drink
21:45 rangi       a brazilian
21:45 bag         rangi - how many hearts where broken yesterday?
21:44 bag         HA
21:44 rangi       please dont let that style of game win the world cup or we will have 4 years of it
21:44 rangi       good grief every game involving the netherlands is a snorefest
21:36 rangi       im currently having a look how hard it is to get this up and running, and how hard a dockbook xml to rst transform is going to be
21:36 bag         I'm here for a little bit
21:35 gmcharlt    sure
21:35 rangi       sweet, im happy to let you chair if you want gmcharlt
21:35 gmcharlt    and folks, reminder, IRC meeting in 25 minutes - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_9_and_10_July_2014
21:34 gmcharlt    rangi: thd: I'm around as well
21:01 thd         rangi: Only today my local telco has again repaired my internet connection.
21:00 thd         I have been without a home internet connection for too much of the past month to do everything needed to have a discussion on the mailing list.
20:57 thd         rangi: Please see the note which added to the agenda about the code of conduct.
20:57 rangi       most likely, unless someone else is around
20:56 thd         rangi: Are you going to conduct the meeting?
20:52 rangi       cya gaetan_B
20:52 gaetan_B    bye !
20:07 oleonard    Bye #koha
19:45 druthb      oleonard is so awesome, he'll have that done before suppertime.
19:43 druthb      KTHXBYE
19:43 druthb      VISIBLE "books n patrons n stuff"
19:43 druthb      CAN HAS STDIO?
19:43 druthb      HAI
19:43 druthb      Or LOLCODE:
19:43 oleonard    :P
19:42 * druthb    suggests that oleonard redo the templating system using the Whitespace programming language.  She's evil like that, you know.
19:35 cait        in order to maybe change the coding guideline
19:35 cait        oleonard: i wanted to put it on next meetings agenda
19:34 * cait      waves
19:32 tcohen      thanks
19:32 tcohen      hi bag
19:26 oleonard    Is there any consensus on whitespace changes now being okay given git's ability to ignore it?
19:24 bag         good luck tcohen :)
18:31 barton      oleonard, just scratched that from the bug.
18:28 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add 'OCLC Number' as search item for staff client and OPAC advanced search pages
18:28 oleonard    barton: You should not include a change to the OPAC prog theme in your patch for Bug 12546 unless it is a separate patch
17:16 fALSO       thank you wajasu
17:16 wajasu      fALSO: configs are in $KOHACONF/etc/koha-conf.xml .   if you can find the  .../koha-install.log  it has info on  ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT  and more.  not sure if/where packages might put that.  maybe under misc directory
16:58 * jcamins   has thought better.
16:57 jcamins     oleonard: prior to the last message I was considering sending an e-mail suggesting that he actually test rather than guessing random unrelated bugs.
16:57 fALSO       If its MARC21 or USMARC or other
16:57 fALSO       Do you guys know I can I find what type is defined in a KOHA instalation?
16:56 oleonard    On some days I like the challenge.
16:54 jcamins     oleonard: you're a better man than I.
16:53 fALSO       I think that the index was correctly made... but on opac I dont get any results on a search
16:53 fALSO       is there anything simple to query it ?
16:52 fALSO       How can one see if Zebra indexed anything
15:55 bgkriegel   Joubu: other question: which unimarc version you use: complet, lecture_pub or both? and why libopac is almost always empty?
15:51 bgkriegel   Joubu: I was testing batch record deletion, I can delete records with issues, need to test more I think
15:50 bgkriegel   Joubu: thanks :)
15:49 Joubu       bgkriegel: I let a (very) quick note on the bug report
15:47 bgkriegel   no errors for me too
15:46 Joubu       bgkriegel: no error here
15:45 oleonard    Errors, but not the one mentioned in the bug
15:44 pastebot    "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors from running t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/83
15:40 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12472 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away"
15:40 bgkriegel   Bug 12472, someone can reproduce the error?
15:39 reiveune    bye
14:46 Joubu       gmcharlt: I really don't know if I am wrong, or if it's the current code.
14:45 gmcharlt    I'll take a look
14:45 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype
14:45 Joubu       gmcharlt: could you have a look at my comment and patch on bug 11518 please?
14:45 gmcharlt    Joubu: hmm?
14:44 Joubu       gmcharlt: around ?
14:34 tcohen      :-D
14:34 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add EditorConfig file to the source tree
14:34 tcohen      bug 12545
14:32 tcohen      oleonard: koha-rebuild-zebra (specifically) launches the rebuild_zebra.pl script with the proper user id
14:32 tcohen      fALSO: what the problem is actually?
14:26 fALSO       The rebuild-zebra script is doing something wrong
14:26 fALSO       I know what sudo does
14:26 oleonard    fALSO: "sudo" elevates the privileges of the current user, which you wouldn't need to do with the root user. However, I'm not sure if there are consequences of using the root user to run commands in a package installation.
14:22 fALSO       all the others ran perfectly
14:22 fALSO       just happens with koha-rebuild-zebra
14:22 fALSO       Anyone knows what the problem can be ?
14:22 wahanui     i already had it that way, fALSO.
14:22 fALSO       Something went wrong rebuilding authority indexes for koha
14:22 fALSO       sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo
14:22 fALSO       Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for koha
14:22 fALSO       sudo: sudoers specifies that root is not allowed to sudo
14:22 fALSO       $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha
14:21 fALSO       Im having a little problem with koha-rebuild-zebra
14:21 fALSO       Hi
14:10 tcohen      heh
14:10 oleonard    :D
14:09 rhcl        bad bad bag
14:09 bag         heh
14:09 bag         A Brazilian
14:08 bag         cait: How many hearts were broken yesterday?
14:07 tcohen      dejavu
14:07 tcohen      morning
14:06 cait        fixed! thx a lot
14:06 cait        bgkriegel++
14:04 bgkriegel   strange anyway
14:03 bgkriegel   cait: done! on opac prog as fuzzy
14:03 cait        :(
13:56 bgkriegel   cait: sorry, i was wrong. Problem exist :(
13:52 bgkriegel   cait: on pootle files are ok, there is no problem. Checking files on 3.16.1
13:45 cait        bgkriegel: it showed results for me, but not the problemtic entry
13:43 bgkriegel   hehe
13:43 tcohen      heh
13:43 tcohen      bgkriegel: is zebra running? :-P :-P
13:39 bgkriegel   search results are not showing
13:39 cait        hope you win
13:39 bgkriegel   np cait, I'm fighting with pootle :(
13:38 cait        bgkriegel: sorry to bother you, i think i could have tried uploading a corrected file, but it irriated me :)
13:38 druthb      silly bag!
13:33 cait        lol
13:33 bag         :P
13:33 bag         7UP
13:33 cait        probably something i don't like
13:33 bag         cait what is germany's favorite drink?
13:23 bgkriegel   ok
13:22 cait        http://paste.koha-community.org/81
13:21 cait        one sec
13:21 cait        looking for the email with the translator scriptoutput
13:21 bgkriegel   ok, let me see. Some hint?
13:20 cait        but i can't find it in pootle :(
13:20 cait        so far so good
13:20 cait        it's the same error my coworker reported to me when updating the test installation to 3.16.1
13:20 cait        when i export the 3.16 po files - i have an error in poedit
13:20 wahanui     the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
13:20 bgkriegel   what's the problem?
13:20 bgkriegel   reading the logs, I saw that
13:20 bgkriegel   hi cait :)
13:19 cait        bgkriegel: i have a pootle problem
13:19 cait        in shock?
12:49 tcohen      yeah
12:48 bgkriegel   still can't beleive what we saw yesterday
12:47 bgkriegel   hola tcohen
12:47 tcohen      hi bgkriegel
12:46 wahanui     cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1
12:46 bgkriegel   cait?
12:44 bgkriegel   Hi
12:40 tcohen      morning
12:40 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:35 bag         good morning barton
12:35 barton      morning bag!
12:28 wahanui     morning is a state of cat
12:28 bag         morning
12:28 bag         barton: deleteditems
12:28 francharb   good morning!
12:15 barton      Everything that I've seen in the database seems to indicate that they aren't.
12:14 barton      quick question -- are item deletions tracked in the statistics table? I have a partner who thinks that they are, or at least should be...
12:10 magnuse     have fun #koha!
11:30 huginn      barton: The operation succeeded.
11:30 barton      @later tell oleonard ping me when you get in, I've got questions about modifying .tt files
11:27 barton      morning, all!
11:20 magnuse     why not tackle some windmills while you are at it?
11:20 magnuse     sounds like fun!
11:18 cait        hm and invisible translation errors - showing up in po but not in pootle
11:18 * cait      is fighting invisible suggestions...
11:18 magnuse     except today it's almost too hot to go outside
11:18 magnuse     makes everything a bit easier
11:17 magnuse     yeah, very lucky so far
11:16 cait        glad you got nice weather :)
11:16 magnuse     but very nice
11:16 magnuse     :-)
11:16 magnuse     cait: really, really hot this week
11:13 cait        you win today :)
11:13 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
11:13 cait        @wunder Konstanz
11:13 cait        how is your parental leave?
11:13 cait        hi magnuse .)
11:09 magnuse     hah!
11:09 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 22.1°C (1:09 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
11:09 magnuse     @wunder marseille
11:09 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 26.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on July 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:08 magnuse     @wunder boo
11:08 magnuse     sorry, i just gotta do this...
11:08 * magnuse   waves relaxedly
10:47 wahanui     it has been said that bgkriegel is on a signoff spree
10:47 cait        bgkriegel?
10:35 fALSO       managed to fix it :-D
09:47 ashimema    those a zebra dependencies.. you could try adding the indexdata repositories to get the latest versions if you like.. but really you shouldn't need to.
09:46 fALSO       :(
09:45 ashimema    works first time every time on wheezy for me i'm afraid
09:45 fALSO       can you try to help me out ?
09:44 fALSO       I dont believe its quite tested on wheezy
09:44 fALSO       ashimema,  http://pastebin.com/p1mPstRb
09:43 fALSO       oops wheezy
09:43 fALSO       Im trying with squeeze ashimema
09:41 ashimema    squeeze and wheezy are both tested fALSO
09:35 wahanui     No one is saying a word, soooooo
09:35 fALSO       No one?
09:31 fALSO       On which Debian version is the apt-get install method supposed to work ?
09:15 fALSO       Anyone knows what to do?
09:15 wahanui     i already had it that way, fALSO.
09:15 wahanui     i already had it that way, fALSO.
09:15 fALSO       E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
09:15 fALSO       Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed
09:15 fALSO       koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed
09:15 fALSO       The following packages have unmet dependencies:
09:15 fALSO       now... apt-get install koha-common doesnt even install :-X
09:14 fALSO       so I tried a dist-upgrade... for that perl module to be upgraded
09:14 fALSO       On Debian 6.x there was a bug on a perl module on DBIX
09:14 fALSO       Im having a little problem with Koha on Debian
08:35 mle         : )
08:19 fALSO       good morning
07:24 nlegrand    hey #koha o/
07:18 gaetan_B    hello
07:18 dcook       morning cait
07:17 cait        good morning #koha
06:59 wahanui     kia ora, alex_a
06:59 alex_a      bonjour
06:35 reiveune    hello
04:31 embiopterid I guess I'll just have to figure out why nothing is talking to the zebra server.  Thanks for helping me narrow it down.
04:29 eythian     I don't think we have any upgrade processes modifying it: it's generally too risky
04:29 eythian     Really, the only thing that writes to it is koha-create when you first set up the instance.
04:29 eythian     not by the package manager, anyway
04:29 eythian     it can't
04:28 embiopterid I don't understand how that file could have been changed if the package manager didn't know about it anyway :\
04:28 eythian     /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml - but you pretty much never have to mess with it.
04:27 embiopterid Where is that configured?
04:27 embiopterid Ya, and it still isn't.
04:26 eythian     it's very suspicious that Koha doesn't seem to be talking to zebra at all.
04:25 embiopterid If I can get it working, I'll probably reinstall the virtual machine.  Or really, either way, cuz I'm sure not everything is koshur.
04:25 wahanui     OK, eythian.
04:25 eythian     wahanui: explain yourself is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8
04:24 eythian     tried doing apt-get install --reinstall koha-common
04:24 eythian     so there could be deeper issues here
04:24 eythian     ah
04:24 eythian     the packages don't know that the sites/ subdirectory exists.
04:24 embiopterid There might have been a problem with the installation because the disk was full for a bit and I didn't notice.  I'm running it in a kvm virtual machine.
04:23 eythian     it can't
04:23 embiopterid It did though.
04:22 eythian     it shouldn't
04:22 embiopterid Actually, now that you mention it the upgrade did overwrite the xml and I had to fix it.  I'll check that.
04:21 wahanui     embiopterid: bugger all, i dunno
04:21 embiopterid wahanui: ?
04:21 wahanui     nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
04:21 embiopterid still nothing.
04:20 eythian     I wonder if something's changed in the koha-conf.xml that's causing it.
04:20 eythian     hmm
04:20 embiopterid Yes.  There dont seem to be any errors.  And yes, I stopped koha-common, but let's try it one more time.
04:19 eythian     also, have you done service koha-common stop first to make sure the other one isn't running?
04:19 eythian     do you see anything at all, i.e. when you start the command?
04:18 embiopterid I don't/
04:18 eythian     it should be fairly chatty
04:18 eythian     yes
04:18 embiopterid Shouldn't I see some output when I run zebra in the koha-shell when I search in a browser?
04:03 eythian     there are some errors that cause the whole thing to abort, and other errors that just cause that record to be skipped
04:03 eythian     most likely, in this case
04:03 eythian     maybe
04:02 embiopterid That's what I thought.  So if it has errors when rebuilding, does that mean something is wrong with the mysql records?
04:02 eythian     --full makes it reindex everything
04:02 eythian     the rebuild-zebra command is what rebuilds the zebra index from mysql
04:01 eythian     I think you do.
04:01 eythian     or maybe you put the instancename on the the end.
04:00 eythian     rather
04:00 eythian     sudo koha-shell libraryname -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml'
04:00 eythian     the command will be something like: sudo koha-shell -c 'zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/libraryname/koha-conf.xml'
03:59 embiopterid Ah.  Can it just be scrapped and rebuild from the mysql database, or is it not all in there?
03:59 eythian     zebra database
03:59 embiopterid The mysql database?
03:58 eythian     there's usually two reasons that searches don't work, when the daemon is running: one is that nothing is actually indexed, the other is that something's wrong with the on-disk database.
03:58 embiopterid Oh, ok.  I guess I'll try that.  Do I just kill the process and run it?  I'm not that familiar with koha architecture yet...is there a specific command to use?
03:57 embiopterid Ya, I don't want to start over again, but there's only 140 titles in their right now so it wouldn't be the worst tragedy.
03:57 eythian     when I can't get searches working, I usually run zebrasrv manually in the foreground. It'll display a lot of debug information that may be useful.
03:57 embiopterid I think you mean auger well :)
03:56 eythian     hmm. that doesn't bode particularly well.
03:56 embiopterid There were a few such errors.
03:56 embiopterid zebrasrv is running.  Still no results.  They were errors when I did the rebuild.  It said "error retrieving biblio (number) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 679."
03:53 eythian     see what the result of "ps ax|grep [z]ebra" is
03:53 eythian     check to make sure you have the zebra server running, too. It's possible it's not starting for some reason.
03:52 embiopterid restart didn't help.  Let me try the rebuild.
03:52 eythian     I'd also recommend doing a full reindex, it's a good idea after an upgrade: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v -v libraryname
03:51 eythian     OK, then try: sudo service koha-common restart
03:50 embiopterid I used the ubuntu packages
03:50 eythian     how have you installed Koha?
03:49 embiopterid Hello.  I recently upgraded my koha installation on ubuntu 12.04.  Now, I can still see the biblios in mysql, but they don't appear in searches.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?
03:10 thd         rangi: Are you present presently?