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01:04 |
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eythian |
> Useless use of '\'; doesn't escape metacharacter '(' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 848. |
01:04 |
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eythian |
well that's a new one |
01:05 |
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wizzyrea |
O.o |
01:19 |
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talljoy |
back |
01:20 |
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wizzyrea |
no wai |
01:27 |
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01:45 |
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wizzyrea |
dcook++ |
01:45 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/2iQ93L0jV6c |
01:46 |
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eythian |
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTake[…]337015809/photo/1 |
01:47 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
01:47 |
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eythian |
I think you mean \m/, dcook. |
01:47 |
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wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLd7-bXv8NA that makes me think of |
01:48 |
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dcook |
ethyian: I was referring to the karma, but can't go wrong with a little \m/ too |
01:56 |
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eythian |
./installer/InstallAuth.pm |
01:56 |
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eythian |
that is not the right place for a .pm |
01:57 |
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eythian |
use Digest::MD5 qw(md5_base64); |
01:57 |
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eythian |
hrm |
01:59 |
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* wizzyrea |
blinks |
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03:25 |
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eythian |
hmm, the "holds" column in the holds ratio report sorts lexographically rather than numerically. |
03:26 |
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eythian |
I suppose I should make bugs when I see things like that |
03:35 |
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dcook |
It's not real if you didn't see it? |
03:38 |
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eythian |
to late, I took a screenshot and opened a bug for it :) |
03:38 |
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eythian |
+o |
03:38 |
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dcook |
hehe |
03:38 |
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dcook |
eythian++ |
03:39 |
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* eythian |
notes that there's a large memory leak when you browse patrons by last name. |
03:39 |
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dcook |
Why yes, MARC. I totally want a code that could mean my record is either "an article in a single issue of a periodical, a chapter in a book, a band on a phonodisc, and a map on a single sheet that contains several maps." |
03:39 |
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eythian |
heh |
03:40 |
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eythian |
then you divide that space in half by setting an indicator on 123, but that might also mean that it's a robot service manual. |
03:40 |
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dcook |
lol |
03:41 |
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dcook |
Then you're exporting and that type isn't supported either |
03:58 |
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dcook |
I suppose in theory...if you have a leader position 7 of "a" or "b"...you could look up the parent via the 773 to see what leader position 6 it has... |
03:58 |
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dcook |
If it's "a", it probably should be a book chapter. If it's "s", it's probably a journal article. |
03:58 |
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dcook |
Given how "robust" that linking is, that sure makes sense. |
04:00 |
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mtompset |
eythian: What's the memory leak? Where? |
04:00 |
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eythian |
mtompset: I don't know. I'm exploring tools to help me find that kind of thing. |
04:01 |
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mtompset |
Well, lest I turn into a pumpkin, and in order to actually fit in my exercise regimen tomorrow. I shall leave now. :) |
04:01 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook wizzyrea. :) |
04:01 |
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dcook |
ta, mtompset |
04:01 |
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dcook |
I miss exercise... |
04:06 |
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dcook |
Just read through the RDA carrier, media, and content types... |
04:06 |
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dcook |
Not a journal article to be found |
04:07 |
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dcook |
Just "text" |
04:08 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
04:08 |
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dcook |
Apparently you can use the 336/337/338 fields with other vocabularies |
04:09 |
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dcook |
Although Dublin Core also provides the very helpful "text" |
04:11 |
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dcook |
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/techdocs/genre.html |
04:12 |
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dcook |
This one has a term for baseball cards |
04:50 |
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04:57 |
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dcook |
"RIS is a simple plain-text reference format. It is nearly universally supported by reference management software and journal databases. The official specification was last updated in 2001, so reading the format is complicated by the frequent divergences from the specification." |
04:58 |
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dcook |
"frequent divergences" |
04:58 |
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dcook |
So much that |
05:01 |
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cait |
sounds like a standard |
05:01 |
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dcook |
hehe |
05:01 |
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dcook |
heya cait |
05:02 |
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dcook |
Thomson Reuters claims to have updated the 'standard' in 2008/2009 |
05:02 |
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dcook |
But I tell ya...looking at a range of RIS citations...they're highly variable across the board |
05:02 |
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dcook |
Even the documentation itself has lots of holes |
05:02 |
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cait |
:( |
05:02 |
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cait |
what do you need it for? |
05:04 |
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dcook |
Oh, I'm just looking at improving the RIS export, so I'm looking at how others are exporting with it |
05:05 |
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dcook |
Added a bit to make it export a TY of "JOUR" instead of "BOOK" if it has a leader position 07 of "a" or "b" |
05:05 |
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dcook |
Of course, that isn't a great options, as the record might be for a book chapter or something else, but...we make the assumption in other parts of Koha that it is a journal article, so...it's internally consistent at least |
05:06 |
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dcook |
Can't really blame Koha there. MARC really doesn't give enough information. |
05:08 |
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cait |
hm it can |
05:08 |
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cait |
i think, there is serial component part and monographic component part |
05:08 |
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cait |
in one of the fixed length fields... i always forget where |
05:08 |
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cait |
ldr? |
05:09 |
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dcook |
Nah, I don't think it means what it sounds like it means. |
05:10 |
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dcook |
FOr instance, the monographic component part can refer to "an article in a single issue of a periodical, a chapter in a book, a band on a phonodisc, and a map on a single sheet that contains several maps." |
05:10 |
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dcook |
The serial component part "is a regularly appearing column or feature in a periodical." |
05:13 |
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dcook |
But it's more likely to catalogue articles in a journal than chapters in a book, I suspect, so we get away with the assumption in the end. |
05:14 |
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dcook |
There are lots of clues in a record that can make a human realize it is a journal article or a book chapter, but they're often ruled by different vocabularies in different languages and it presents a bit of an overall nightmare |
05:15 |
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dcook |
Well, classification nightmare :p |
05:15 |
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dcook |
I won't actually be losing sleep over this one |
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05:25 |
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cait |
hm |
05:25 |
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cait |
interesting |
05:25 |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
05:25 |
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cait |
we don't use it like that |
05:26 |
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cait |
we use it like it sounds, which makes things a bit easier :) |
05:27 |
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dcook |
I would certainly hope so :) |
05:28 |
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dcook |
If cataloguing and programming have taught me anything over the past few years, it's that nothing is perfect. |
05:29 |
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cait |
well at least i think we use it like that... why is marc so complicated again? |
05:29 |
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dcook |
Very good question... |
05:35 |
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cait |
brb |
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07:13 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
07:16 |
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* cait |
waves back |
07:22 |
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* magnuse |
waves back too |
07:25 |
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cait |
that will get an indefinite loop if we are not careful now |
07:34 |
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reiveune |
hello |
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07:46 |
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fridolin |
hie all |
07:46 |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune et fridolin |
07:46 |
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fridolin |
bonjour magnuse |
07:46 |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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07:55 |
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magnuse |
fridolin: is there a 3.14.5 right around the corner? |
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07:59 |
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fridolin |
magnuse: yep, today |
07:59 |
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fridolin |
yesterday I was busy in marseille |
08:00 |
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magnuse |
fridolin: very cool! |
08:01 |
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fridolin |
since our college laurent is back, i will have more time for RM. I've subscribe to maintain it after 3.16 release |
08:10 |
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nlegrand1 |
hiya #koha! |
08:10 |
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nlegrand1 |
ho |
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08:16 |
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huginn |
GERMS!!!! |
08:16 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
08:16 |
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cait |
wahanui, this is getting old :) |
08:16 |
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wahanui |
...but this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.... |
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08:25 |
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nlegrand |
o/ cait |
08:27 |
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cait |
hi nlegrand |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
08:31 |
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wahanui |
hey, gaetan_B |
08:43 |
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cait |
dpavlin++ ashimema++ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #24 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
08:44 |
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ashimema |
cait.. your too quick |
08:44 |
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ashimema |
;) |
08:44 |
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cait |
hm? |
08:44 |
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ashimema |
within 30 seconds of me signing off you'd commented here.. |
08:45 |
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ashimema |
very impressive response time ;) |
08:45 |
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cait |
ah, just coincidence |
08:45 |
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ashimema |
lol |
08:45 |
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ashimema |
I really, really want to tidy the Auth_with file... it's horrible to try and read |
08:47 |
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cait |
understandable |
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09:01 |
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magnuse |
hiya petter |
09:05 |
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petter |
hei magnus! |
09:06 |
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ashimema |
morning all |
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09:13 |
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atheia |
Morning koha! |
09:13 |
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magnuse |
g'day ashimema and atheia |
09:14 |
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cait |
morning atheia :) |
09:25 |
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cait |
logs |
09:25 |
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cait |
logs? |
09:25 |
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wahanui |
well, logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
10:24 |
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gerundio |
good morning |
10:25 |
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gerundio |
where can I get more information about OpenSearch and RSS in Koha? |
10:25 |
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gerundio |
I only found this http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]supported_by_Koha |
10:26 |
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gerundio |
but there's nothing written about those 2 |
10:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.14.x build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/24/ |
10:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11352: fix unexpected data loss issues with batch patron deletion/anonymization |
10:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11018: allow adding order from a reverted MARC batch |
10:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11352 critical, P3, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Batch Patron Deletion/Anonmyzation deletes more than warning states it will delete |
10:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11018 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add order from a reverted file |
10:28 |
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gerundio |
regarding RSS I see that opac-search can show results by using argument format=rss2 |
10:28 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #25 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
10:28 |
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gerundio |
is there any documentation that details the available arguments for opac-search.pl? |
10:58 |
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cait |
gerundio: there are one or 2 system prefrences related to rss i think |
10:59 |
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cait |
not sure about more documentation |
11:00 |
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gerundio |
cait, just numSearchRSSResults |
11:02 |
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gerundio |
which would you say is the better way to provide results from our Koha installation for an aggregator, Z39.50 server? |
11:03 |
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cait |
probably easie |
11:03 |
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cait |
or SRU |
11:03 |
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cait |
and you get all the informaton on ar ecord |
11:03 |
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ashimema |
sru is nice |
11:03 |
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cait |
i can imagine the rss only has some of the data from the record |
11:05 |
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fridolin |
gmcharlt: as release maintainer, when pushing to 3.14.x, I set the BZ to "pushed to stable". Do I have to set also the "Version" combobox to 3.14 ? |
11:07 |
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magnuse |
and Z39.50 and SRU gives you more structured data than rss, i think |
11:08 |
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cait |
fridolin: probably too early for gmcharlt :) |
11:09 |
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cait |
i thin in the past we left it |
11:09 |
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cait |
but you still might want to check with him |
11:09 |
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cait |
I'd read it as the version the patch went into first, I think |
11:15 |
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gerundio |
I can't find much information regarding Z39.50 server and SRU usage in Koha either |
11:15 |
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cait |
i think you have to activate during installation and then it mostly just works |
11:15 |
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cait |
I haven't used it so far, just know that my coworker is very fond of Koha's SRU |
11:16 |
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gerundio |
I see some comments on koha-conf.xml |
11:16 |
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fridolin |
thanks cait |
11:17 |
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gerundio |
but can't quite figure it out |
11:18 |
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cait |
http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/sru.html |
11:19 |
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gerundio |
I've read that too |
11:20 |
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gerundio |
so basically I have to open a new port, 9999 in the examples, and configure a new vhost for that, right? |
11:20 |
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cait |
i found this |
11:20 |
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cait |
To enable public Z39.50/SRU servers, you'll need to edit your koha-conf.xml and |
11:20 |
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cait |
change the <listen> options to listen on a TCP port; then restart the zebra daemon. |
11:20 |
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cait |
i think you don't need to change your apache config |
11:21 |
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cait |
hm or maybe this could be helpful: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]nuary/022288.html |
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gerundio |
thanks cait, add that page opened in a browser tab too :D |
11:23 |
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gerundio |
cait++ |
11:23 |
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gerundio |
had ^^ |
11:36 |
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gerundio |
cait, fyi, just uncommenting the two blocks in koha-conf.xml worked out fine |
11:36 |
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gerundio |
thanks for all the help |
11:37 |
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cait |
sure, glad it works |
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francharb |
morning |
12:11 |
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cait |
morning francharb |
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francharb |
o/ cait |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
12:22 |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
12:33 |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.14.x build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/25/ |
12:42 |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 11476: remove extra empty option from title pull-down in OPAC self-registration |
12:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11476 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Opac self registration title pull down offers 2 empty options |
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jenkins_koha |
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rhcl |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn |
rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -3.2°C (8:20 AM CDT on March 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
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rhcl |
@wunder minot, nd |
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huginn |
rhcl: The current temperature in Why Not Minot, Minot, North Dakota is -13.7°C (8:21 AM CDT on March 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on March 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
13:52 |
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magnuse |
hiya mtompset |
13:53 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse. |
13:54 |
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oleonard |
Anyone know off the top of their heads how the patron self-registration feature chooses the next cardnumber to generate? |
13:55 |
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mtompset |
I should know this... |
13:56 |
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mtompset |
There's a function at the end of a C4 library... |
13:56 |
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mtompset |
that calls it... |
13:57 |
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mtompset |
AddMember_Opac |
13:58 |
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mtompset |
fixup_cardnumber? |
13:58 |
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wahanui |
fixup_cardnumber is probably okay, but it does no locking... and a second process could grab the same calculated number before AddMember is called. |
13:58 |
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mtompset |
Hmm... just reading code segments outloud. :) |
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oleonard |
Patron self registration seems to be creating incorrect passwords in master. I can't log in as the newly created patron using the password it shows me. |
14:01 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: Did you check the length of the password field in the database structure? |
14:01 |
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oleonard |
Why would I need to? |
14:01 |
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mtompset |
We roll our own, and I accidently skipped that upgrade. |
14:02 |
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mtompset |
and if the length is too short the hash gets cut off. |
14:03 |
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mtompset |
That broke one of our in-house enhancements. This is why I know about that. :) |
14:03 |
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oleonard |
Do you recall which update changed it? |
14:04 |
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mtompset |
The one that changed the password from MD5 to something else. |
14:04 |
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oleonard |
Bug 9611 |
14:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
14:12 |
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mtompset |
Was that the problem, oleonard? |
14:14 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
14:16 |
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cait |
oleonard-away: hm it did work for me when i tested recently on master |
14:18 |
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* mtompset |
cheers. |
14:25 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.14.x build #26: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/26/ |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 11473 - Fix log viewer template conditions |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 11473 - Remove boilerplate in log viewer template |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 11473 - Improve wording in log viewer template |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 11473 - add 'biblio' and 'item' to cataloguing logging info |
14:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11473 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , View log template has malformed conditionals, and logging info incorrect/inconsistent/unexpected |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 11473: (follow-up) ensure link to item is construct correctly |
14:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11329: Check for MARC record existence in opac-showmarc |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11329 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Check for marc record in opac-showmarc |
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back |
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cait: Less is more. re 11846. :) |
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mtompset |
It makes testing harder, when you fix history. |
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mtompset |
It's all in comment 2. :) |
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mtompset |
How do you disbar someone again? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5142826658cb4dd05> / Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ccd54f05b8246d0a> / Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=fed353ed |
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mtompset |
Ah... okay, there. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5520976695cb99412> / Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2856215a9b7d3b9f8> |
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* Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11701 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Fix C4::Context::Zconn |
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mtompset |
YAY! I love to see patches I signed off make it into master. :) |
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bag |
morning y'all |
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bag |
magnuse HI |
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cait |
morning bag |
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bag |
good morning cait |
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mtompset |
Afternoon, bag. :P |
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bag |
any peanut butter cups left? |
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bag |
I have the little chocolate bunny still intact on my desk :) |
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cait |
some peanut butter cups still left :) |
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bag |
I want to break my record this year. maybe 6 months this time until I eat it |
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cait |
but the number is going down too fast |
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bag |
let it age for a little git |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
not sure if aging chocolate is really a thing |
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bag |
well next yeah I'll bring two bags :) |
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cait |
they mostly seemto advertise fresh chocolate... :) |
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cait |
ooh yum. |
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bag |
cait: maybe I'll start a new fad with aging chocolate |
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cait |
but they would be really heavy |
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cait |
bag: might be :) |
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cait |
i am trying to stick to a 5 each day rule... but it's not always working out |
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bag |
HA that's a great goal cait |
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bag |
morning nengard |
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nengard |
good afternoon :) |
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nengard |
nearly |
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bag |
ah it's 0930 here |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
bag, I figured. It's a timezone thing. It's 12:39 here now. |
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oleonard |
it's 12:40 here now. Updates will continue as the situation progresses. |
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cait |
http://www.zazzle.com/indexdata < someone wants a zebra mug? :) |
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mtompset |
So they can smash it in frustration? ;) |
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cait |
i was waiting for a comment like that :) |
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mtompset |
cait: Glad to oblige. :) |
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oleonard |
Get a Zebra onesie for your baby because babies too are confounding to configure correctly. |
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jcamins |
::snrrk:: |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Sample of currencies with a working active value |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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pianohacker |
hi cait! |
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cait |
hm someon any idea why a ubuntu would suddenly stop playing any kind of sound? |
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cait |
hi pianohacker :) |
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pianohacker |
because you're in space! |
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cait |
got my message? |
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pianohacker |
cait: yup, just need to figure out a good time |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
good time would be good :) |
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cait |
i am travelling from monday to wednesday next week |
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pianohacker |
cait: kk, what times (UTC) are you available for testing? |
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cait |
it depends |
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cait |
do we need a debian or can we make it work in ubuntu? |
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* magnuse |
gives his evening wave |
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cait |
by magnuse |
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cait |
bye |
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mtompset |
because you cross boot to mint? I'm not sure. |
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cait |
? |
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magnuse |
hiya cait |
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* magnuse |
is coming, not leaving |
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mtompset |
you said you had a sound problem, cait. |
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cait |
oh |
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mtompset |
I recall some colleagues of mine who dual boot with mint had some issue like that. |
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magnuse |
cait: are you sure the sound is turned on? |
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cait |
magnuse: ... |
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cait |
pianohacker: still there? did you see my question? :) |
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jcamins |
cait: you might try restarting the audio daemon (pulseaudio?). |
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cait |
how? :) |
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magnuse |
kick it |
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jcamins |
magnuse: I almost said "kick pulseaudio," but I thought "restart" was a bit more clear. |
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jcamins |
And I have no idea. |
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jcamins |
I'd probably do `ps ax` and then start kill -HUP'ing things. |
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pianohacker |
llllllllllll |
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pianohacker |
woopsie |
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cait |
jcamins: you confuse me :) |
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magnuse |
there goes pianohacker's favourite password... |
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pianohacker |
hahahahaha |
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jcamins |
cait: I'd look for something that looked audio related, and kill -HUP those processes until the sound started working. |
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pianohacker |
cait: debian would probably be far easier |
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cait |
i already restarted the laptop twice since it stopped working... which worries me a bit |
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cait |
once the irc client mae a beep and that's it |
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pianohacker |
magnuse: You remember hackfest, it would be something more like llllllllllllllllllllll |
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cait |
pianohacker: the problem is, I have too much work for one week |
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magnuse |
ah, that's all right then :-) |
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magnuse |
yeah, they should make weeks longer |
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cait |
we might have to push it to thursday/friday next week and then i am gone for 2 weeks vacation |
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pianohacker |
cait: just bring your laptop on your vacation |
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cait |
that's ubuntu :) |
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cait |
pianohacker: so it's ubuntu or harder to find a date |
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pianohacker |
right... |
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pianohacker |
cait: I think we can make it work, we just need time and coffee |
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pianohacker |
let's try for ubuntu |
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cait |
I have to drink coffeee??? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1670: SUCCESS in 2 hr 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1670/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent |
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jenkins_koha |
* Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn |
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jenkins_koha |
* Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11701 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Fix C4::Context::Zconn |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Sample of currencies with a working active value |
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cait |
jcamins: i can't find anything and what i killed didn't bring it back |
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jcamins |
cait: huh. Restarting audio-related processes always worked for me. |
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cait |
jcamins: probably didn#t find the right one? |
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* cait |
hope sit will repair itself |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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jcamins |
If you restart, all the daemons will be restarted. |
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pianohacker |
cait: if you try to listen to something, does pactl list clients show anything? |
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cait |
let me try |
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cait |
jcamins: i did restart twice... |
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cait |
the problem started this morning, i rebootet and then shut it down until i came back tonight |
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cait |
pianohacker: will try |
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jcamins |
Ah. What changed? |
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cait |
nooo idea |
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rangi |
magnuse: you about? |
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cait |
pianohacker: want me to paste? it does show banshee |
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cait |
which should be playing music right now... |
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pianohacker |
cait: nah, just wanted to make sure it had banshee |
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pianohacker |
cait: Try installing pavucontrol and running it, it's amazingly useful for stuff like this |
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magnuse |
rangi: yup |
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rangi |
so, cait says something about magnuse something something ebook something something |
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pianohacker |
OverDrive? :D |
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magnuse |
hah! |
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cait |
pianohacker: the microphone shows a lot of action... and that's about it |
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pianohacker |
bug 11978 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11978 major, P1 - high, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , OverDrive API now prepends http:// to URLs |
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pianohacker |
because telling devs about API updates is boring! |
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magnuse |
yeah, devs need something to do all day long, right? |
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magnuse |
hmmm, where did my LICENSE file go? |
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pianohacker |
Yeah, before I was just sitting around all day farting around learning new vim commands |
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pianohacker |
but now I have something to do! |
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rangi |
oooh sweet |
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magnuse |
pianohacker: see, all for the best |
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magnuse |
pianohacker: if you have non-DRM ePub files it might come in handy |
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magnuse |
s/pianohacker/rangi/ |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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magnuse |
what is i nmy got repo is only half of it, though. there is a html5 reader that is not on github yet |
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rangi |
goes handy with my idea that libaries should be publishers of ebooks too |
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rangi |
now they have a delivery mechanism too |
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rangi |
topic switch |
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rangi |
anyone know anything about dell xps ultrabooks? |
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pianohacker |
magnuse++ |
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pianohacker |
that's really cool |
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magnuse |
rangi: you can get them with ubuntu? |
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rangi |
i doubt it |
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rangi |
but ill try |
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rangi |
i mean you can in the US |
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rangi |
the xps 13 |
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rangi |
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd |
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rangi |
but i dunno if you can here |
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magnuse |
i think you can get it in norway now |
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pianohacker |
good lord, a dell actually worth buying |
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rangi |
however i will be in the US in late april |
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rangi |
so im thinking i might get one shipped there and just fly it back |
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pianohacker |
customs won't complain too much? |
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rangi |
if i stick it an a laptop bag, and slap some stickers on it |
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rangi |
they wouldnt even know |
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magnuse |
i bought a dell latitude 13 that was supposed to come with ubuntu preinstalled. it came without an os and no trace of ubuntu. after i compleined on twitter they sent me a cd with a 2 years old ubuntu version, and the laptop did not have a cd drive |
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rangi |
ahh that doesnt sound so great |
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rangi |
pianohacker: do dell have stores in the US? or is it all online now |
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magnuse |
(i had installed the latest and greatest long before the cd arrived of course, but i wanted them to deliver on their promise, sort of) |
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pianohacker |
rangi: I haven't seen a dell store, but a microsoft store *might* have one |
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rangi |
unlikely to have a linux one tho eh |
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pianohacker |
well, yeah :) |
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rangi |
might be fun to go ask though |
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rangi |
oh yeah system76 |
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rangi |
http://www.mystore411.com/stor[…]l-store-locations |
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rangi |
apparently they do |
19:10 |
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rangi |
but ibeardslee just gave me a better idea |
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pianohacker |
oh? |
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rangi |
but now i have to take the kids to school |
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mtompset |
rangi: Why not https://www.system76.com/laptops/? |
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rangi |
https://www.system76.com/ |
19:11 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
that |
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rangi |
bbiab |
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* oleonard |
would definitely look at laptops built for Ubuntu after the trouble he's had with his formerly-Windows-based one. |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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bag |
I heard my name laptop bag :P |
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pianohacker |
we're going to stuff a laptop inside you and smuggle you into NZ |
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pianohacker |
won't hurt a bit |
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Brooke |
he's natural material |
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Brooke |
the beagles would eat him for breakfast. |
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* Dyrcona |
likes his Galago Ultra Pro from System76. |
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oleonard |
I updated and expanded the DataTables guide on the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/DataTables_HowTo |
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Brooke |
oleonard++ |
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Brooke |
that page is purty like. |
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Brooke |
and informative |
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cait |
interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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cait |
pianohacker: headphones work |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
oleonard: ashimema will be happy |
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oleonard |
He inspired me by pointing out how inadequate it was |
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pianohacker |
cait: try checking the output tab in pavucontrol |
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smeagol |
Has anyone seen this error? I'm stumped...the installer is trapped in a loop. Update report : •Status: 500 •Content-type: text/html • •<h1>Software error:</h1> •<pre>DBD::mysql::db do failed: Error on rename of './koha/patronimage' to './koha/#sql2-6d9-4fc' (errno: 152) at /home/koha/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 7243. •</pre> •<p> •For help, please send mail to the webmaster (<a href="mailto:webmastermtplbywaterkoha |
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smeagol |
thanks |
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cait |
pianohacker: nothing obvious |
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rangi |
back |
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rangi |
Dyrcona: the trick is seeing if i can get one delivered to my hotel in atlanta ... or maybe i could ask ESI if i could get it shipped there and pick it up when im in atlanta |
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rangi |
that might work |
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cait |
:) |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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bag |
oh that would work :) |
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bag |
don't deliver it to pianohacker though - you may get the weirdest keyboard layout back |
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cait |
heh |
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bag |
a custom pianohacked keyboard |
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cait |
a piano keyboard? :) |
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pianohacker |
hell yeah |
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bag |
rangi: do you just use a default keyboard layout? or .... |
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pianohacker |
I'll give you a keyboard with n-key rollover! Then you can use the open source steno software I'm learning! >:) |
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bag |
thanks to pianohacker I am so fascinated by this idea - never occurred to me to not just use a USqwerty board |
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rangi |
i use maori keyboard, which is pretty much USqwerty |
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pianohacker |
bag: it's a really deep rabbit hole |
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pianohacker |
and I can't seem to stop falling |
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bag |
rangi: you heard of pianohacker's setup? it's pretty rad but I'm feeling like an old dog :P |
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* ibeardslee |
just wishes non-legacy OS based laptops were easier to get in NZ. |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: what steno software are you learning? This sounds fascinating. |
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bag |
right jcamins - pianohacker is the most interesting man in the world |
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bag |
and sometimes he drinks tequila |
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pianohacker |
I almost have that accent down... |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Plover. Supports linux, windows and mac, you just need a keyboard that can tell when 12 or so keys are pressed |
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jcamins |
I'd love to be able to type faster. I already type about twice as fast as I can think. |
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pianohacker |
relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv-Qb-dB6g |
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cait |
ibeardslee: not sure the situation in germany would be better... |
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rangi |
ibeardslee: https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1 |
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rangi |
im looking at this |
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ibeardslee |
urgle .. the CDO in me has an issue with the trackpad not centred on the spacebar ;) |
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oleonard |
rangi: Will the primary purpose of the laptop be browsing pictures of charming chalets? |
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cait |
heh |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
bag++ :) |
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bag |
cait++ |
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cait |
i had a good reason, what's your excuse? :) |
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* cait |
goes to look up affable |
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pianohacker |
uh oh |
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pianohacker |
bag: consistently gets a laugh? *nervous grin* |
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* pianohacker |
is getting the stink eye from bag so shuts up for the moment |
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jcamins |
369, [1] p. |
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jcamins |
Erm. Wrong window. |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
but still... looks very nicely catalogued |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, eythian |
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magnuse |
bag: HI |
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bag |
magnuse: hi there buddy |
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pianohacker |
magnuse! you got a second? Have an idea to bounce off of you |
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dcook |
Man...I'm glad I've taken to leaving my computer on. This scrollback is fascinating :p |
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pianohacker |
hahahahaha |
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bag |
heh |
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bag |
well lovely conversations today eh? |
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bag |
heya eythian - how goes it today |
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eythian |
hello. Not bad. Ran through much of the staff client on plack yesterday, found no explosions, and only a couple of things that really do need looked into. |
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rangi |
eythian: id still like a nicer solution for zconn |
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rangi |
using yaz-proxy or something |
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bag |
ah sweet |
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rangi |
if there is space on the list :( |
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rangi |
:) even |
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pianohacker |
rangi: is the issue that zebra connections are kept beyond their useful life? |
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rangi |
zebra (and z3950 the protocol) is designed to be single use, you connect do something get some results, and disconnect |
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rangi |
we try to reuse connections in koha |
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rangi |
the reason it works under cgi, is they die when the perl dies |
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rangi |
soon as you run them under plack, the connection times out, and we do some trickery trying to test for that, badly, so we try to reuse the same connection |
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rangi |
so you randomly get searches that appear to the user to have no results |
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pianohacker |
ahh, makes sense |
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rangi |
refresh, you get results |
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eythian |
rangi: yeah, we should look into yaz-proxy. It's possible it's pretty easy to add to package deployments or something. |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
pianohacker: hence yaz-proxy, which does connection pooling etc for you |
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pianohacker |
makes sense |
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pianohacker |
or pazpar2 |
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rangi |
LOC use it in front of their voyager |
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rangi |
pazpar2 doesnt speak pqf |
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eythian |
We should also make it so that koha doesn't say "no results", it says "search engine broken" or something. No results is a bit misleading. |
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rangi |
(at least i dont think it does) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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is a fan of this "search engine broken" idea |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
i am a fan of never seeing that? :) |
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rangi |
yeah, real error messages are better than silent fails |
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dcook |
True. I rather know when it's broken though :) |
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cait |
:) |
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dcook |
(The 'though' was for before rangi spoke :P) |
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pianohacker |
rangi: looks like you're right. That's annoying... was hoping to only have to add pazpar2 |
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pianohacker |
since bug 10486 and bug 11559 both use it anyway |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Professional cataloger's interface |
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rangi |
pianohacker: yeah |
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pianohacker |
there's even a ccl->pqf converter that it doesn't look like you can disable |
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bag |
bye #koha catch you's all tomorrow |
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bag |
or maybe later tonight |
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eythian |
bye |