Time Nick Message
23:58 eythian bye
23:57 bag or maybe later tonight
23:57 bag bye #koha catch you's all tomorrow
22:38 pianohacker there's even a ccl->pqf converter that it doesn't look like you can disable
22:36 rangi pianohacker: yeah
22:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Professional cataloger's interface
22:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
22:35 pianohacker since bug 10486 and bug 11559 both use it anyway
22:35 pianohacker rangi: looks like you're right. That's annoying... was hoping to only have to add pazpar2
22:33 dcook (The 'though' was for before rangi spoke :P)
22:33 cait :)
22:32 dcook True. I rather know when it's broken though :)
22:32 rangi yeah, real error messages are better than silent fails
22:32 cait i am a fan of never seeing that? :)
22:32 cait heh
22:32 * dcook is a fan of this "search engine broken" idea
22:32 rangi yeah
22:31 rangi (at least i dont think it does)
22:31 eythian We should also make it so that koha doesn't say "no results", it says "search engine broken" or something. No results is a bit misleading.
22:31 rangi pazpar2 doesnt speak pqf
22:31 rangi LOC use it in front of their voyager
22:31 pianohacker or pazpar2
22:31 pianohacker makes sense
22:31 rangi pianohacker: hence yaz-proxy, which does connection pooling etc for you
22:31 rangi *nod*
22:31 eythian rangi: yeah, we should look into yaz-proxy. It's possible it's pretty easy to add to package deployments or something.
22:30 rangi refresh, you get results
22:30 pianohacker ahh, makes sense
22:30 rangi so you randomly get searches that appear to the user to have no results
22:30 rangi soon as you run them under plack, the connection times out, and we do some trickery trying to test for that, badly, so we try to reuse the same connection
22:29 rangi the reason it works under cgi, is they die when the perl dies
22:29 rangi we try to reuse connections in koha
22:29 rangi zebra (and z3950 the protocol) is designed to be single use, you connect do something get some results, and disconnect
22:26 pianohacker rangi: is the issue that zebra connections are kept beyond their useful life?
22:25 rangi :) even
22:25 rangi if there is space on the list :(
22:25 bag ah sweet
22:25 rangi using yaz-proxy or something
22:25 rangi eythian: id still like a nicer solution for zconn
22:23 eythian hello. Not bad. Ran through much of the staff client on plack yesterday, found no explosions, and only a couple of things that really do need looked into.
22:23 dcook [off] I'm amazed by how many Australians I know have FB photos of themselves at Lake Tahoe. Blows my mind.
22:22 bag heya eythian - how goes it today
22:22 bag well lovely conversations today eh?
22:22 bag heh
22:22 pianohacker [off] Yeah, that and Vegas. (and the lovely hosts of our kohacon)
22:19 dcook [off] No idea. I'm from the Canadian Midwest. Strip clubs are barely legal. 8 months of the year it's winter. You don't even want to imagine yourself or anyone without 8 layers of clothes on.
22:16 eythian [off] dcook: isn't that the whole point of Nevada?
22:12 dcook [off] Are they legal in (parts of) America? I think it must be very different in Australia. The people I know who work in them tend to just sit around and watch tv when no clients are around :p.
22:08 pianohacker [off] the late night ones are really scary
22:06 dcook [off] Brothels are legal in Australia. I've never been to one, but I used to live next door to one a couple years ago...
22:06 pianohacker hahahahaha
22:05 dcook Man...I'm glad I've taken to leaving my computer on. This scrollback is fascinating :p
21:43 pianohacker magnuse! you got a second? Have an idea to bounce off of you
21:37 bag magnuse: hi there buddy
21:36 magnuse bag: HI
21:35 wahanui privet, eythian
21:35 eythian hi
21:22 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
21:13 jcamins Thanks.
21:11 cait but still... looks very nicely catalogued
21:05 cait lol
21:05 wizzyrea heh
21:05 jcamins Erm. Wrong window.
21:04 jcamins 369, [1] p.
21:04 pianohacker [off] hahahaha no, not to my knowledge anyway. The hackfest wasn't that crazy! And yeah, the fact that nothing happened but one drink with our wallets and phones firmly in our pockets is the main reason I tell it
21:04 jcamins [off] For those who don't know, Reno is where people from the East Coast go to get divorced. Every single person who heard I was going to Reno commented on it.
21:03 jcamins [off] pianohacker: I didn't even realize you were married!
21:03 jcamins [off] Getting divorced was?
21:02 pianohacker [off] no kidding!
21:02 bag [off] it was harmless and we went in for one drink and left - cause it was umm getting scary
21:01 * pianohacker is getting the stink eye from bag so shuts up for the moment
21:01 jcamins [off] I would've expected more divorce stories, though.
21:01 cait [off] I just left htem alone for one evening...
21:01 jcamins [off] Don't you know what happens in... oh, never mind. :P
21:00 pianohacker bag: consistently gets a laugh? *nervous grin*
21:00 pianohacker uh oh
20:59 bag [off] pianohacker: maybe you shouldn't tell brothel stories
20:59 * cait goes to look up affable
20:58 pianohacker [off] I wonder how ashimema would feel about the fact that he's always introduced as the "affable brit from the conference whenever I tell the brothel story
20:58 cait i had a good reason, what's your excuse? :)
20:57 bag cait++
20:57 cait bag++ :)
20:20 rangi heh
20:18 Dyrcona heh.
20:17 cait heh
20:17 oleonard rangi: Will the primary purpose of the laptop be browsing pictures of charming chalets?
20:17 ibeardslee urgle .. the CDO in me has an issue with the trackpad not centred on the spacebar ;)
20:16 rangi im looking at this
20:16 rangi ibeardslee: https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1
20:12 cait ibeardslee: not sure the situation in germany would be better...
20:11 pianohacker relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv-Qb-dB6g
20:11 jcamins I'd love to be able to type faster. I already type about twice as fast as I can think.
20:10 pianohacker jcamins: Plover. Supports linux, windows and mac, you just need a keyboard that can tell when 12 or so keys are pressed
20:10 pianohacker I almost have that accent down...
20:10 bag and sometimes he drinks tequila
20:10 bag right jcamins - pianohacker is the most interesting man in the world
20:09 jcamins pianohacker: what steno software are you learning? This sounds fascinating.
20:09 * ibeardslee just wishes non-legacy OS based laptops were easier to get in NZ.
20:06 bag [off] and talking with Baker and Taylor in an email - that's sort of making me batty
20:06 bag rangi: you heard of pianohacker's setup? it's pretty rad but I'm feeling like an old dog :P
20:05 pianohacker and I can't seem to stop falling
20:05 pianohacker bag: it's a really deep rabbit hole
20:04 rangi i use maori keyboard, which is pretty much USqwerty
20:03 bag thanks to pianohacker I am so fascinated by this idea - never occurred to me to not just use a USqwerty board
20:03 pianohacker I'll give you a keyboard with n-key rollover! Then you can use the open source steno software I'm learning! >:)
20:02 bag rangi: do you just use a default keyboard layout? or ....
20:02 pianohacker hell yeah
20:01 cait a piano keyboard? :)
20:01 bag a custom pianohacked keyboard
20:01 cait heh
20:01 bag don't deliver it to pianohacker though - you may get the weirdest keyboard layout back
20:00 bag oh that would work :)
19:59 Dyrcona :)
19:59 cait :)
19:59 rangi that might work
19:59 rangi Dyrcona: the trick is seeing if i can get one delivered to my hotel in atlanta ... or maybe i could ask ESI if i could get it shipped there and pick it up when im in atlanta
19:58 rangi back
19:50 cait pianohacker: nothing obvious
19:48 smeagol thanks
19:48 smeagol Has anyone seen this error? I'm stumped...the installer is trapped in a loop. Update report : •Status: 500 •Content-type: text/html • •<h1>Software error:</h1> •<pre>DBD::mysql::db do failed: Error on rename of './koha/patronimage' to './koha/#sql2-6d9-4fc' (errno: 152) at /home/koha/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 7243. •</pre> •<p> •For help, please send mail to the webmaster (<a href="mailto:webmaster@mtplbywaterkoha
19:37 pianohacker cait: try checking the output tab in pavucontrol
19:35 oleonard He inspired me by pointing out how inadequate it was
19:34 cait oleonard: ashimema will be happy
19:34 cait oleonard++
19:33 cait pianohacker: headphones work
19:33 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:33 cait interesting
19:31 Brooke and informative
19:31 Brooke that page is purty like.
19:31 Brooke oleonard++
19:30 oleonard I updated and expanded the DataTables guide on the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo
19:30 * Dyrcona likes his Galago Ultra Pro from System76.
19:26 Brooke the beagles would eat him for breakfast.
19:26 Brooke he's natural material
19:21 pianohacker won't hurt a bit
19:21 pianohacker we're going to stuff a laptop inside you and smuggle you into NZ
19:21 bag I heard my name laptop bag :P
19:19 * magnuse wanders off
19:15 * oleonard would definitely look at laptops built for Ubuntu after the trouble he's had with his formerly-Windows-based one.
19:11 rangi bbiab
19:11 rangi that
19:11 rangi yeah
19:11 rangi https://www.system76.com/
19:11 mtompset rangi: Why not https://www.system76.com/laptops/?
19:10 rangi but now i have to take the kids to school
19:10 pianohacker oh?
19:10 rangi but ibeardslee just gave me a better idea
19:10 rangi apparently they do
19:10 rangi http://www.mystore411.com/store/list_city/1178/Georgia/Atlanta/Dell-store-locations
19:10 rangi oh yeah system76
19:09 rangi might be fun to go ask though
19:08 pianohacker well, yeah :)
19:08 rangi unlikely to have a linux one tho eh
19:07 pianohacker rangi: I haven't seen a dell store, but a microsoft store *might* have one
19:07 magnuse (i had installed the latest and greatest long before the cd arrived of course, but i wanted them to deliver on their promise, sort of)
19:07 rangi pianohacker: do dell have stores in the US? or is it all online now
19:06 rangi ahh that doesnt sound so great
19:06 magnuse i bought a dell latitude 13 that was supposed to come with ubuntu preinstalled. it came without an os and no trace of ubuntu. after i compleined on twitter they sent me a cd with a 2 years old ubuntu version, and the laptop did not have a cd drive
19:06 rangi they wouldnt even know
19:06 rangi if i stick it an a laptop bag, and slap some stickers on it
19:06 pianohacker customs won't complain too much?
19:05 rangi so im thinking i might get one shipped there and just fly it back
19:05 rangi however i will be in the US in late april
19:04 pianohacker good lord, a dell actually worth buying
19:04 magnuse i think you can get it in norway now
19:04 rangi but i dunno if you can here
19:04 rangi http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd
19:03 rangi the xps 13
19:03 rangi i mean you can in the US
19:03 rangi but ill try
19:03 rangi i doubt it
19:03 magnuse rangi: you can get them with ubuntu?
19:03 pianohacker that's really cool
19:02 pianohacker magnuse++
19:02 rangi anyone know anything about dell xps ultrabooks?
19:02 rangi topic switch
19:02 rangi now they have a delivery mechanism too
19:02 rangi goes handy with my idea that libaries should be publishers of ebooks too
19:01 magnuse what is i nmy got repo is only half of it, though. there is a html5 reader that is not on github yet
19:01 rangi *nod*
19:01 magnuse s/pianohacker/rangi/
19:01 magnuse pianohacker: if you have non-DRM ePub files it might come in handy
19:00 magnuse pianohacker: see, all for the best
18:59 rangi oooh sweet
18:58 pianohacker but now I have something to do!
18:57 pianohacker Yeah, before I was just sitting around all day farting around learning new vim commands
18:57 magnuse hmmm, where did my LICENSE file go?
18:56 magnuse yeah, devs need something to do all day long, right?
18:56 pianohacker because telling devs about API updates is boring!
18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11978 major, P1 - high, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , OverDrive API now prepends http:// to URLs
18:56 pianohacker bug 11978
18:56 magnuse [off] https://github.com/MagnusEnger/Ebooksforlib
18:55 cait pianohacker: the microphone shows a lot of action... and that's about it
18:55 magnuse [off] https://ebib.no/
18:55 magnuse hah!
18:54 pianohacker OverDrive? :D
18:54 rangi so, cait says something about magnuse something something ebook something something
18:53 magnuse rangi: yup
18:52 pianohacker cait: Try installing pavucontrol and running it, it's amazingly useful for stuff like this
18:51 pianohacker cait: nah, just wanted to make sure it had banshee
18:51 cait which should be playing music right now...
18:50 cait pianohacker: want me to paste? it does show banshee
18:50 rangi magnuse: you about?
18:49 cait nooo idea
18:49 jcamins Ah. What changed?
18:49 cait pianohacker: will try
18:48 cait the problem started this morning, i rebootet and then shut it down until i came back tonight
18:48 cait jcamins: i did restart twice...
18:48 cait let me try
18:48 pianohacker cait: if you try to listen to something, does pactl list clients show anything?
18:48 jcamins If you restart, all the daemons will be restarted.
18:48 Brooke o/
18:48 * cait hope sit will repair itself
18:47 cait jcamins: probably didn#t find the right one?
18:44 jcamins cait: huh. Restarting audio-related processes always worked for me.
18:42 cait jcamins: i can't find anything and what i killed didn't bring it back
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Sample of currencies with a working active value
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11701 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Fix C4::Context::Zconn
18:41 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data
18:41 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data
18:41 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn
18:41 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent
18:41 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn
18:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1670: SUCCESS in 2 hr 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1670/
18:40 cait I have to drink coffeee???
18:40 pianohacker let's try for ubuntu
18:40 pianohacker cait: I think we can make it work, we just need time and coffee
18:40 pianohacker right...
18:40 cait pianohacker: so it's ubuntu or harder to find a date
18:37 cait that's ubuntu :)
18:37 pianohacker cait: just bring your laptop on your vacation
18:36 cait we might have to push it to thursday/friday next week and then i am gone for 2 weeks vacation
18:36 magnuse yeah, they should make weeks longer
18:36 magnuse ah, that's all right then :-)
18:36 cait pianohacker: the problem is, I have too much work for one week
18:35 pianohacker magnuse: You remember hackfest, it would be something more like llllllllllllllllllllll
18:35 cait once the irc client mae a beep and that's it
18:35 cait i already restarted the laptop twice since it stopped working... which worries me a bit
18:35 pianohacker cait: debian would probably be far easier
18:35 jcamins cait: I'd look for something that looked audio related, and kill -HUP those processes until the sound started working.
18:35 pianohacker hahahahaha
18:35 magnuse there goes pianohacker's favourite password...
18:34 cait jcamins: you confuse me :)
18:34 pianohacker woopsie
18:34 pianohacker llllllllllll
18:34 jcamins I'd probably do `ps ax` and then start kill -HUP'ing things.
18:34 jcamins And I have no idea.
18:34 jcamins magnuse: I almost said "kick pulseaudio," but I thought "restart" was a bit more clear.
18:33 magnuse kick it
18:33 cait how? :)
18:33 jcamins cait: you might try restarting the audio daemon (pulseaudio?).
18:32 cait pianohacker: still there? did you see my question? :)
18:32 cait magnuse: ...
18:32 magnuse cait: are you sure the sound is turned on?
18:31 mtompset I recall some colleagues of mine who dual boot with mint had some issue like that.
18:31 cait oh
18:31 mtompset you said you had a sound problem, cait.
18:29 * magnuse is coming, not leaving
18:29 magnuse hiya cait
18:29 cait ?
18:29 mtompset because you cross boot to mint? I'm not sure.
18:26 cait bye
18:26 cait by magnuse
18:26 * magnuse gives his evening wave
18:26 cait do we need a debian or can we make it work in ubuntu?
18:26 cait it depends
18:25 pianohacker cait: kk, what times (UTC) are you available for testing?
18:25 cait i am travelling from monday to wednesday next week
18:25 cait good time would be good :)
18:24 cait yep
18:24 pianohacker cait: yup, just need to figure out a good time
18:24 cait got my message?
18:23 pianohacker because you're in space!
18:23 cait hi pianohacker :)
18:23 cait hm someon any idea why a ubuntu would suddenly stop playing any kind of sound?
18:23 pianohacker hi cait!
18:20 cait hi #koha
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Sample of currencies with a working active value
17:09 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data
17:09 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data
17:09 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #396: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/396/
17:08 jcamins oleonard++
17:08 jcamins ::snrrk::
17:07 oleonard Get a Zebra onesie for your baby because babies too are confounding to configure correctly.
17:06 mtompset cait: Glad to oblige. :)
16:59 cait i was waiting for a comment like that :)
16:59 mtompset So they can smash it in frustration? ;)
16:55 cait http://www.zazzle.com/indexdata < someone wants a zebra mug? :)
16:41 oleonard it's 12:40 here now. Updates will continue as the situation progresses.
16:39 mtompset bag, I figured. It's a timezone thing. It's 12:39 here now.
16:36 reiveune bye
16:30 bag ah it's 0930 here
16:30 nengard nearly
16:30 nengard good afternoon :)
16:30 bag morning nengard
16:14 bag HA that's a great goal cait
16:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #1670 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:14 cait i am trying to stick to a 5 each day rule... but it's not always working out
16:13 cait bag: might be :)
16:13 cait but they would be really heavy
16:13 bag cait: maybe I'll start a new fad with aging chocolate
16:13 cait ooh yum.
16:13 cait they mostly seemto advertise fresh chocolate... :)
16:13 bag well next yeah I'll bring two bags :)
16:13 cait not sure if aging chocolate is really a thing
16:13 cait heh
16:13 bag let it age for a little git
16:13 cait but the number is going down too fast
16:12 bag I want to break my record this year. maybe 6 months this time until I eat it
16:12 cait some peanut butter cups still left :)
16:12 bag I have the little chocolate bunny still intact on my desk :)
16:12 bag any peanut butter cups left?
16:12 mtompset Afternoon, bag. :P
16:12 bag good morning cait
16:12 cait morning bag
16:12 bag magnuse HI
16:11 bag morning y'all
16:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #27: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/27/
16:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #396 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:06 mtompset YAY! I love to see patches I signed off make it into master. :)
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11701 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Fix C4::Context::Zconn
16:01 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn
16:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent
16:01 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn
16:01 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #395: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/395/
15:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11939: set active currency for non-English sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed10e5226cc8e9852dfee3f5520976695cb99412> / Bug 11939: set active currency when using English sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a5c2d51819c193580a2bc42856215a9b7d3b9f8>
15:01 mtompset Ah... okay, there.
14:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11701: Fix C4::Context::Zconn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b63f0d018ecaa6377124175142826658cb4dd05> / Bug 11701: (follow-up) move unit tests to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8205529683da0f934f4bdb26ccd54f05b8246d0a> / Bug 11701: Unit tests for C4::Context::Zconn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fed353ed
14:56 mtompset How do you disbar someone again?
14:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #395 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:35 mtompset It's all in comment 2. :)
14:34 mtompset It makes testing harder, when you fix history.
14:33 mtompset cait: Less is more. re 11846. :)
14:30 talljoy back
14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11329 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Check for marc record in opac-showmarc
14:26 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11329: Check for MARC record existence in catalogue/showmarc
14:26 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11329: Check for MARC record existence in opac-showmarc
14:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11473: (follow-up) ensure link to item is construct correctly
14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11473 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , View log template has malformed conditionals, and logging info incorrect/inconsistent/unexpected
14:26 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 11473 - add 'biblio' and 'item' to cataloguing logging info
14:26 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 11473 - Improve wording in log viewer template
14:26 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 11473 - Remove boilerplate in log viewer template
14:26 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 11473 - Fix log viewer template conditions
14:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #26: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/26/
14:25 mtompset Greetings, cait.
14:18 * mtompset cheers.
14:16 cait oleonard-away: hm it did work for me when i tested recently on master
14:14 oleonard Yes
14:12 mtompset Was that the problem, oleonard?
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt
14:04 oleonard Bug 9611
14:04 mtompset The one that changed the password from MD5 to something else.
14:03 oleonard Do you recall which update changed it?
14:03 mtompset That broke one of our in-house enhancements. This is why I know about that. :)
14:02 mtompset and if the length is too short the hash gets cut off.
14:01 mtompset We roll our own, and I accidently skipped that upgrade.
14:01 oleonard Why would I need to?
14:01 mtompset oleonard: Did you check the length of the password field in the database structure?
14:00 oleonard Patron self registration seems to be creating incorrect passwords in master. I can't log in as the newly created patron using the password it shows me.
13:58 mtompset Hmm... just reading code segments outloud. :)
13:58 wahanui fixup_cardnumber is probably okay, but it does no locking... and a second process could grab the same calculated number before AddMember is called.
13:58 mtompset fixup_cardnumber?
13:57 mtompset AddMember_Opac
13:56 mtompset that calls it...
13:56 mtompset There's a function at the end of a C4 library...
13:55 mtompset I should know this...
13:54 oleonard Anyone know off the top of their heads how the patron self-registration feature chooses the next cardnumber to generate?
13:53 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
13:52 magnuse hiya mtompset
13:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on March 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
13:32 magnuse @wunder boo
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13:28 rhcl @wunder minot, nd
13:27 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -3.2°C (8:20 AM CDT on March 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
13:27 rhcl @wunder 64507
12:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
12:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11476 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Opac self registration title pull down offers 2 empty options
12:42 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 11476: remove extra empty option from title pull-down in OPAC self-registration
12:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/25/
12:33 gaetan_B bye
12:22 cait hi oleonard :)
12:15 oleonard Hi #koha
12:12 francharb o/ cait
12:11 cait morning francharb
12:09 francharb morning
11:37 cait sure, glad it works
11:36 gerundio thanks for all the help
11:36 gerundio cait, fyi, just uncommenting the two blocks in koha-conf.xml worked out fine
11:23 gerundio had ^^
11:23 gerundio cait++
11:23 gerundio thanks cait, add that page opened in a browser tab too :D
11:21 cait hm or maybe this could be helpful: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022288.html
11:20 cait i think you don't need to change your apache config
11:20 cait change the <listen> options to listen on a TCP port; then restart the zebra daemon.
11:20 cait To enable public Z39.50/SRU servers, you'll need to edit your koha-conf.xml and
11:20 cait i found this
11:20 gerundio so basically I have to open a new port, 9999 in the examples, and configure a new vhost for that, right?
11:19 gerundio I've read that too
11:18 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/sru.html
11:17 gerundio but can't quite figure it out
11:16 fridolin thanks cait
11:16 gerundio I see some comments on koha-conf.xml
11:15 cait I haven't used it so far, just know that my coworker is very fond of Koha's SRU
11:15 cait i think you have to activate during installation and then it mostly just works
11:15 gerundio I can't find much information regarding Z39.50 server and SRU usage in Koha either
11:09 cait I'd read it as the version the patch went into first, I think
11:09 cait but you still might want to check with him
11:09 cait i thin in the past we left it
11:08 cait fridolin: probably too early for gmcharlt :)
11:07 magnuse and Z39.50 and SRU gives you more structured data than rss, i think
11:05 fridolin gmcharlt: as release maintainer, when pushing to 3.14.x, I set the BZ to "pushed to stable". Do I have to set also the "Version" combobox to 3.14 ?
11:03 cait i can imagine the rss only has some of the data from the record
11:03 ashimema sru is nice
11:03 cait and you get all the informaton on ar ecord
11:03 cait or SRU
11:03 cait probably easie
11:02 gerundio which would you say is the better way to provide results from our Koha installation for an aggregator, Z39.50 server?
11:00 gerundio cait, just numSearchRSSResults
10:59 cait not sure about more documentation
10:58 cait gerundio: there are one or 2 system prefrences related to rss i think
10:28 gerundio is there any documentation that details the available arguments for opac-search.pl?
10:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #25 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
10:28 gerundio regarding RSS I see that opac-search can show results by using argument format=rss2
10:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11018 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add order from a reverted file
10:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11352 critical, P3, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Batch Patron Deletion/Anonmyzation deletes more than warning states it will delete
10:27 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11018: allow adding order from a reverted MARC batch
10:27 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11352: fix unexpected data loss issues with batch patron deletion/anonymization
10:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/24/
10:26 gerundio but there's nothing written about those 2
10:25 gerundio I only found this http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha
10:25 gerundio where can I get more information about OpenSearch and RSS in Koha?
10:24 gerundio good morning
09:25 wahanui well, logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
09:25 cait logs?
09:25 cait logs
09:14 cait morning atheia :)
09:13 magnuse g'day ashimema and atheia
09:13 atheia Morning koha!
09:06 ashimema morning all
09:05 petter hei magnus!
09:01 magnuse hiya petter
08:47 cait understandable
08:45 ashimema I really, really want to tidy the Auth_with file... it's horrible to try and read
08:45 ashimema lol
08:45 cait ah, just coincidence
08:45 ashimema very impressive response time ;)
08:44 ashimema within 30 seconds of me signing off you'd commented here..
08:44 cait hm?
08:44 ashimema ;)
08:44 ashimema cait.. your too quick
08:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
08:43 cait dpavlin++ ashimema++
08:31 wahanui hey, gaetan_B
08:31 gaetan_B hello
08:27 cait hi nlegrand
08:25 nlegrand o/ cait
08:16 wahanui ...but this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius....
08:16 cait wahanui, this is getting old :)
08:16 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:16 huginn GERMS!!!!
08:10 nlegrand1 ho
08:10 nlegrand1 hiya #koha!
08:01 fridolin since our college laurent is back, i will have more time for RM. I've subscribe to maintain it after 3.16 release
08:00 magnuse fridolin: very cool!
07:59 fridolin yesterday I was busy in marseille
07:59 fridolin magnuse: yep, today
07:55 magnuse fridolin: is there a 3.14.5 right around the corner?
07:49 alex_a bonjour
07:46 reiveune salut magnuse
07:46 fridolin bonjour magnuse
07:46 magnuse bonjour reiveune et fridolin
07:46 fridolin hie all
07:34 reiveune hello
07:25 cait that will get an indefinite loop if we are not careful now
07:22 * magnuse waves back too
07:16 * cait waves back
07:13 * magnuse waves
05:35 cait brb
05:29 dcook Very good question...
05:29 cait well at least i think we use it like that... why is marc so complicated again?
05:28 dcook If cataloguing and programming have taught me anything over the past few years, it's that nothing is perfect.
05:27 dcook I would certainly hope so :)
05:26 cait we use it like it sounds, which makes things a bit easier :)
05:25 cait we don't use it like that
05:25 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:25 cait interesting
05:25 cait hm
05:15 dcook I won't actually be losing sleep over this one
05:15 dcook Well, classification nightmare :p
05:14 dcook There are lots of clues in a record that can make a human realize it is a journal article or a book chapter, but they're often ruled by different vocabularies in different languages and it presents a bit of an overall nightmare
05:13 dcook But it's more likely to catalogue articles in a journal than chapters in a book, I suspect, so we get away with the assumption in the end.
05:10 dcook The serial component part "is a regularly appearing column or feature in a periodical."
05:10 dcook FOr instance, the monographic component part can refer to "an article in a single issue of a periodical, a chapter in a book, a band on a phonodisc, and a map on a single sheet that contains several maps."
05:09 dcook Nah, I don't think it means what it sounds like it means.
05:08 cait ldr?
05:08 cait in one of the fixed length fields... i always forget where
05:08 cait i think, there is serial component part and monographic component part
05:08 cait hm it can
05:06 dcook Can't really blame Koha there. MARC really doesn't give enough information.
05:05 dcook Of course, that isn't a great options, as the record might be for a book chapter or something else, but...we make the assumption in other parts of Koha that it is a journal article, so...it's internally consistent at least
05:05 dcook Added a bit to make it export a TY of "JOUR" instead of "BOOK" if it has a leader position 07 of "a" or "b"
05:04 dcook Oh, I'm just looking at improving the RIS export, so I'm looking at how others are exporting with it
05:02 cait what do you need it for?
05:02 cait :(
05:02 dcook Even the documentation itself has lots of holes
05:02 dcook But I tell ya...looking at a range of RIS citations...they're highly variable across the board
05:02 dcook Thomson Reuters claims to have updated the 'standard' in 2008/2009
05:01 dcook heya cait
05:01 dcook hehe
05:01 cait sounds like a standard
04:58 dcook So much that
04:58 dcook "frequent divergences"
04:57 dcook "RIS is a simple plain-text reference format. It is nearly universally supported by reference management software and journal databases. The official specification was last updated in 2001, so reading the format is complicated by the frequent divergences from the specification."
04:12 dcook This one has a term for baseball cards
04:11 dcook http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/techdocs/genre.html
04:09 dcook Although Dublin Core also provides the very helpful "text"
04:08 dcook Apparently you can use the 336/337/338 fields with other vocabularies
04:08 dcook Hmm
04:07 dcook Just "text"
04:06 dcook Not a journal article to be found
04:06 dcook Just read through the RDA carrier, media, and content types...
04:01 dcook I miss exercise...
04:01 dcook ta, mtompset
04:01 mtompset Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook wizzyrea. :)
04:01 mtompset Well, lest I turn into a pumpkin, and in order to actually fit in my exercise regimen tomorrow. I shall leave now. :)
04:00 eythian mtompset: I don't know. I'm exploring tools to help me find that kind of thing.
04:00 mtompset eythian: What's the memory leak? Where?
03:58 dcook Given how "robust" that linking is, that sure makes sense.
03:58 dcook If it's "a", it probably should be a book chapter. If it's "s", it's probably a journal article.
03:58 dcook I suppose in theory...if you have a leader position 7 of "a" or "b"...you could look up the parent via the 773 to see what leader position 6 it has...
03:41 dcook Then you're exporting and that type isn't supported either
03:40 dcook lol
03:40 eythian then you divide that space in half by setting an indicator on 123, but that might also mean that it's a robot service manual.
03:39 eythian heh
03:39 dcook Why yes, MARC. I totally want a code that could mean my record is either "an article in a single issue of a periodical, a chapter in a book, a band on a phonodisc, and a map on a single sheet that contains several maps."
03:39 * eythian notes that there's a large memory leak when you browse patrons by last name.
03:38 dcook eythian++
03:38 dcook hehe
03:38 eythian +o
03:38 eythian to late, I took a screenshot and opened a bug for it :)
03:35 dcook It's not real if you didn't see it?
03:26 eythian I suppose I should make bugs when I see things like that
03:25 eythian hmm, the "holds" column in the holds ratio report sorts lexographically rather than numerically.
01:59 * wizzyrea blinks
01:57 eythian hrm
01:57 eythian use Digest::MD5 qw(md5_base64);
01:56 eythian that is not the right place for a .pm
01:56 eythian ./installer/InstallAuth.pm
01:48 dcook ethyian: I was referring to the karma, but can't go wrong with a little \m/ too
01:47 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLd7-bXv8NA that makes me think of
01:47 eythian I think you mean \m/, dcook.
01:47 dcook \o/
01:46 eythian https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/448268478337015809/photo/1
01:45 eythian http://youtu.be/2iQ93L0jV6c
01:45 wizzyrea dcook++
01:20 wizzyrea no wai
01:19 talljoy back
01:05 wizzyrea O.o
01:04 eythian well that's a new one
01:04 eythian > Useless use of '\'; doesn't escape metacharacter '(' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 848.