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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen cait |
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huginn |
mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 2 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <cait> good night all |
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mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 31 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> hello |
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mtompset |
dcook: Tomas is on his honeymoon right now, as far as I recall. |
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eythian |
PSA: should you see: "AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded.", try: "sudo a2dismod mpm_itk" followed by "sudo a2enmod mpm_itk". It seems to fix things. |
03:09 |
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eythian |
that took me surprisingly long to figure out. |
03:09 |
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eythian |
(because it'd say there was no MPM loaded, but then say things like "ERROR: Module mpm_itk is enabled" |
03:10 |
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eythian |
) |
03:10 |
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eythian |
turns out it needs a dependency that wasn't enabled for some reason in the upgrade. |
03:22 |
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dcook |
That sounds like no fun, eythian |
03:22 |
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* dcook |
would love to know how to simulate a late order... |
03:22 |
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* dcook |
pokes acquisitions |
03:22 |
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eythian |
for those things, I tend to set them up and then go into the database and roll the relevant date fields back. |
03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
there's I think a syspref for "how long an order can be outstanding before it is late" |
03:23 |
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dcook |
eythian: Tried that :( |
03:23 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: I'll try that :) |
03:23 |
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eythian |
dcook: maybe it needs a cron job to run or something? |
03:24 |
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dcook |
eythian: I was pondering that but it looks like just a (very convoluted) database query :S |
03:24 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Didn't see one :/ |
03:24 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, I was just looking too |
03:25 |
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dcook |
Ah...I think I figured it out |
03:25 |
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dcook |
Two database queries.. |
03:25 |
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dcook |
I think it's because my orders had no prices |
03:25 |
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* dcook |
tries that.. |
03:27 |
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dcook |
Yep |
03:27 |
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eythian |
that seems like an odd condition |
03:27 |
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dcook |
Need to have a rrp and ecost of > 0 |
03:27 |
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dcook |
A bit, eh? |
03:27 |
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dcook |
I suppose it might be to get around donations? |
03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you can't complain if you're not paying :P |
03:27 |
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dcook |
But you should receive donations as well I would think.. |
03:27 |
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dcook |
lol |
03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
should you? |
03:27 |
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dcook |
I guess so, wizzyrea! |
03:27 |
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eythian |
I think you'd still like to know if it were late |
03:27 |
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dcook |
^ |
03:28 |
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eythian |
also, maybe you don't need to budget for it for some reason, perhaps it's paid for some other way. |
03:28 |
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wizzyrea |
(I was being sarcastic about not complaining if you're not paying) |
03:30 |
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dcook |
Interesting that the condition was on the GetBooksellersWithLateOrders sub and not the GetLateOrders sub |
03:30 |
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dcook |
Mmm acquisitions |
03:32 |
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eythian |
http://vimeo.com/69575198 <-- this is quite a cool cover (NSFW unless you have headphones.) |
03:33 |
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dcook |
Hmm, and in terms of visuals? |
03:34 |
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eythian |
quite safe |
03:35 |
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wizzyrea |
...acquisitions seems rather broken in master atm, at least the cost calculating bits. |
03:35 |
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eythian |
s/ in master atm// |
03:35 |
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dcook |
heh |
03:36 |
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wizzyrea |
well that particular thing *used* to work heh. |
03:36 |
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dcook |
headphones ftw |
03:37 |
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dcook |
eythian: Is NIN still coming up or has that past? |
03:37 |
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eythian |
how do you mean? |
03:37 |
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dcook |
I believe you have tickets for a show? |
03:37 |
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eythian |
oh, yeah |
03:37 |
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eythian |
that was Thursday |
03:37 |
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wizzyrea |
ah this was always a great song. |
03:38 |
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dcook |
Nice. Yeah, digging the cover.\ |
03:38 |
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wizzyrea |
I love the loopers. they are awesome. |
03:39 |
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wizzyrea |
There's one I'm sure I've linked before of the gorillaz feel good inc |
03:39 |
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wizzyrea |
which, I find the original song rather uninteresting and uninspiring, but the looped cover is quite cool |
03:40 |
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eythian |
this cover is pretty close to the original, which is good too. |
03:41 |
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eythian |
http://www.last.fm/user/eythian <-- I may have been binging a little bit lately. |
03:41 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it's not so far from the original, nice to gender flip it though. |
03:41 |
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eythian |
yup |
03:50 |
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dcook |
Reminds me of Springsteen's "King Bee" in the Lorde cover |
03:50 |
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dcook |
Which I actually haven't listened to yet. I just remember people complaining about it |
03:51 |
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wizzyrea |
dear springsteen, there is no such thing as a king bee. only queens. dope. |
03:51 |
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dcook |
^ |
03:52 |
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dcook |
That's the one |
03:52 |
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eythian |
Springsteen? |
03:52 |
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eythian |
itym Harpo |
03:52 |
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wizzyrea |
or like that daughter cover of get lucky, where her impression of the party was clearly different from pharrel's impression. |
03:53 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Did she actually change lyrics besides pronouns or was that mostly tone? |
03:53 |
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dcook |
When they played it live, it was much more upbeat |
03:53 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it was only pronouns and tone, I remember it being almost creepy. |
03:54 |
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dcook |
Totally. It leaves you feeling a bit hollowed out, eh? |
03:54 |
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* dcook |
swears that he says "eh?" more now that he's in Australia |
03:54 |
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wizzyrea |
just with a "that party sounds like it was filled with lecherous dudes bent on doing things that aren't probably legal" |
03:54 |
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wizzyrea |
kind of tone. |
03:56 |
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wizzyrea |
and with that downer, i'm out. |
03:56 |
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dcook |
hehe |
03:56 |
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dcook |
night, wizzyrea |
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mtompset |
dcook: 'eh' isn't technically a bad thing. But I assumptions people about it could be problematic. :) |
04:06 |
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eythian |
gar. Trying to figure out why everything was working when I'd deliberately put it into a state that it shouldn't. |
04:06 |
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eythian |
Turned out I was hitting the wrong VM :< |
04:06 |
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mtompset |
You shouldn't hit VM's. That's too violent. ;) |
04:14 |
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eythian |
I have no reply to that that doesn't make me sound like a terrible person :) |
04:24 |
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eythian |
I'm going to have to really sit down and spend some time on the apache config for Debian jessie. |
04:24 |
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eythian |
Many things have changed. |
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mtompset |
I know tcohen was working on getting Apache 2.4 to work nicely for Ubuntu. |
04:36 |
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eythian |
Well, I'm both trying to make it work with plack, and with 2.4, which is multiplying the fiddlyness of it all. |
04:36 |
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eythian |
ah, after all that, I think I just needed to turn the Rewrite engine on. |
04:37 |
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eythian |
oh, well that solved one problem, but perhaps not others. |
04:39 |
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mtompset |
Well, I'm off. |
04:39 |
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eythian |
Later |
04:39 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook papa wizzyrea. |
04:39 |
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papa |
you too! |
04:43 |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five#.22Too_slow.22 <-- papa, that picture sequence (possibly the best in wikipedia) applies here. |
04:45 |
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papa |
that sooo not true |
04:46 |
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dcook |
These statistics wizards are a bit terrifying.. |
04:52 |
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eythian |
yay, now I'm finally getting 503 Service Unavailable, which should mean my apache config is correct. |
04:52 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
04:57 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #179 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
05:14 |
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dcook |
Ahh, lots of given/when in borrowers_stats.pl... |
05:23 |
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eythian |
> Out of memory: Kill process 7869 (java) score 169 or sacrifice child |
05:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #179: SUCCESS in 31 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/179/ |
05:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager |
05:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
* David Cook: Bug 11502: make library filter in "Holds To Pull" more precise |
05:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9210: wrap long lines in printed hold notices |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11505 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager |
05:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11502 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Branch filter in "Holds To Pull" is too fuzzy |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9210 major, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return are missing in print letters generated for holds |
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eythian |
øarsome, I now have the staff client coming up in plack, finally. |
05:48 |
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cait |
:) |
05:48 |
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cait |
eythian: a lot of people are working on plck again lately |
05:49 |
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cait |
and zebra facets |
05:49 |
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eythian |
yep |
05:49 |
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cait |
good times :) |
05:49 |
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cait |
ashimema was also going to look into plack again i think |
05:49 |
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eythian |
yeah, my task is to find the bits that don't work in the staff client and fix them. |
05:50 |
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eythian |
I expect most of them are solved by the fixes in the opac, but not all of them. |
05:50 |
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dcook |
cait: It looks like the Zebra facets issues have mostly been worked out. I think someone just needs to write the code now :) |
05:51 |
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dcook |
And figure out a way to update Zebra config when upgrading versions |
05:51 |
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cait |
it's cool that it's working with icu |
05:51 |
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dcook |
:D |
05:51 |
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cait |
i think customizable facets would be great |
05:51 |
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cait |
but fixing the existing feature woudl also help |
05:52 |
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dcook |
Agreed. I think the introduction of the pubdate facet will also be nice. |
05:52 |
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cait |
yep |
05:52 |
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cait |
small steps |
05:52 |
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wahanui |
small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test. |
05:52 |
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cait |
first make everything work that should work now... (maybe not that a small of a step) |
05:52 |
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cait |
then add more nice things |
05:52 |
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dcook |
Mhm |
05:53 |
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dcook |
I wonder if Tomas is planning on writing that code. |
05:56 |
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cait |
dunno |
05:56 |
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cait |
he is away now for quite some time |
06:00 |
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dcook |
Hmm. Maybe I'll have to try my hand at that code at some point then. |
06:00 |
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dcook |
Anyway, time for me to head out |
06:00 |
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dcook |
laters |
06:01 |
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cait |
later |
06:01 |
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eythian |
bye |
06:30 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
06:30 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.2°C (7:29 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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rangi |
hi magnuse |
07:34 |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi! |
07:35 |
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magnuse |
wassup? |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m |
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sophie_m |
hello magnuse |
07:37 |
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sophie_m |
bonjour #koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi marcelr |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
08:09 |
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marcelr |
thx for qa |
08:14 |
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cait |
hi marcelr |
08:14 |
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cait |
np |
08:14 |
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cait |
trying to get in as much as I can, but was travelling quite a bit |
08:14 |
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marcelr |
well you did a good job then this month :) |
08:15 |
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cait |
Marseille helped to catch up :) |
08:15 |
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cait |
but i'd like to do more of the bigger older ones |
08:15 |
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marcelr |
first in, first out? |
08:16 |
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cait |
hard to in some cases, i'd like to test bigger thigns at least for 2 hours without interruptions |
08:16 |
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cait |
not always doable |
08:16 |
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marcelr |
yeah |
08:16 |
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cait |
and if you start... then don't know when you can get back to it |
08:18 |
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cait |
the multi transport dependency tree is quite impressive, but we need to tackle that again |
08:18 |
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marcelr |
the multitransport for notices is first on my list to pick up again |
08:19 |
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cait |
ah cool :) |
08:19 |
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marcelr |
somewhere this week hopefully |
08:19 |
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cait |
they did some more testing during the hackfest and there is a page on the wiki now |
08:19 |
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marcelr |
i hope it is possible to review it report-by-report |
08:20 |
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cait |
i hope so too, but it's probably still a bit more complicated |
08:20 |
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marcelr |
if is it not, it will be hard to get it in |
08:21 |
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cait |
the wiki page is here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_transport_types |
08:21 |
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marcelr |
ok |
08:27 |
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cait |
I will try to tackel a few that came back from fqa and the holds bugs next |
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magnuse |
cait++ marcelr++ |
08:32 |
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magnuse |
there, you better live up to your ++'es now ;-) |
08:32 |
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marcelr |
magnuse++ |
08:32 |
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marcelr |
so |
08:33 |
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cait |
all this pressure... |
08:34 |
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magnuse |
gah! |
08:34 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.4°C (9:45 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
08:48 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
08:48 |
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wahanui |
hey, gaetan_B |
08:50 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
08:50 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
08:50 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (9:30 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
09:05 |
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cait |
gaetan_B++ |
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ashimema_away |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
09:17 |
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huginn |
ashimema_away: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.5°C (9:16 AM GMT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
09:18 |
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cait |
hi ashimema_away :) |
09:18 |
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magnuse |
hiya ashimema_away |
09:18 |
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ashimema |
morning magnuse |
09:19 |
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cait |
hmpf? :) |
09:19 |
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ashimema |
morning cait |
09:20 |
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cait |
:) |
09:20 |
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ashimema |
I already have that feeling this morning that it's going to be a very disrupted day :( |
09:20 |
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* cait |
has the same |
09:21 |
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magnuse |
disrupt all the things! |
09:21 |
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cait |
it's after 10 and I haven't managed to make tea yet |
09:21 |
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* cait |
does now |
09:21 |
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magnuse |
oh ashimema: did you have time to look any more at the plack stuff? |
09:22 |
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cait |
i think eythian was working on something with plack tonight |
09:22 |
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ashimema |
not yet I'm afraid. |
09:22 |
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ashimema |
it's o the long long list ;) |
09:22 |
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ashimema |
interesting.. |
09:22 |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
09:22 |
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ashimema |
I'll try and catch him at some point.. |
09:23 |
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ashimema |
thanks for the heads up. |
09:24 |
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* magnuse |
hands ashimema a bunch of round tuits |
09:28 |
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ashimema |
:) |
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09:46 |
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magnuse |
bgkriegel++ for bug 7939 |
09:46 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
09:46 |
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magnuse |
i will try to look at that towards the end of the week, if noone beats me to it |
10:25 |
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atheia |
Good morning! |
10:38 |
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cait |
hi atheia :) |
10:38 |
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cait |
first day on the new job? :) |
10:40 |
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atheia |
cait: No, First day was actually last Monday — but as first days go, there's been a lot of information! |
10:40 |
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cait |
ah yes :) |
10:40 |
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cait |
but you found your way back here - I will take that as a good sign :) |
10:41 |
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* magnuse |
waves to atheia |
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atheia |
Hi magnuse! |
10:42 |
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atheia |
Indeed :-) |
10:43 |
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indradg |
hello #koha |
10:43 |
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cait |
atheia++ |
10:44 |
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cait |
did you manage your koha from scratch install getting traumatized? :) |
10:46 |
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cait |
hm _without_ getting traumatized... |
10:46 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
10:47 |
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atheia |
I did indeed, I've got a shiny install running locally, which according to ashimema will inevitably break sooner or later :-) |
10:47 |
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cait |
lol |
10:47 |
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cait |
i never broke my local shiny koha so far... he must do something wrong :P |
10:47 |
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ashimema |
good morning atheia |
10:48 |
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* cait |
hides |
10:48 |
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ashimema |
thanks for the vote of confidence cait.. |
10:48 |
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cait |
ooh |
10:48 |
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* cait |
offers cookies |
10:48 |
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ashimema |
I usually end up breaking stuff when I test fringe install features.. like nginx and plack, and random zebra configurations.. |
10:49 |
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ashimema |
local is good though.. has it's benefits over remote.. |
10:49 |
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cait |
that's a valid reason for breaking things |
10:49 |
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ashimema |
though I do liek the specific purpose of my dev server.. rather than sharing my dev machine ass my personal machine et al'. |
10:50 |
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ashimema |
I'm sure atheia will find some fun ways to break his install at some point.. ;) |
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cait |
okok :) |
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paxed |
weird. in C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Hold.pm change_hold() calls ModReserve() without adding rank to the params. this does nothing, afaict? |
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paxed |
is that supposed to something? |
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paxed |
do* |
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Joubu |
paxed: If you agree with the patch, could you sign off on bug 11631? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Make translation toolchain ignore useless translatable strings |
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cait |
paxed: i think if you return a book on the self check it doesn't go into waiting |
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cait |
that's done on the circ desk so you can print the slip |
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cait |
and it might be the reason, but i am not sure - and not sure if you were looking at returns |
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cait |
so ... you might want to ignore me |
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paxed |
i was looking at the code, no idea where it happens in the UI |
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paxed |
Joubu: do i have a way to do that from the commandline? |
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Joubu |
paxed: hm? To do what? |
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paxed |
testing the patch. i like what i can at evergreen side: git fetch --all && git checkout -b $bugfixbranch origin/master && testingtestingtesting && git cherry-pick -s $commitid && git push working $remotesignedoffbranch |
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paxed |
can do* |
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Joubu |
paxed: git checkout -b bug_11631 origin/master; git bz apply 11631 |
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cait |
paxed: did you take a look at git bz? |
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paxed |
Joubu: ok. |
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paxed |
cait: not yet |
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cait |
git bz? |
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wahanui |
git bz is git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git |
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cait |
hm there is also a wiki page on how to configure it, you will need it for testing patches easily like Joubu said |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi cait |
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Joubu |
paxed: Patches are not yet on a remote branch, so you have to get them to test. The easier way to do that is git-bz. |
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francharb |
good morning |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 8.1°C (12:59 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
meh |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0°C (1:00 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
sun just came out |
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druthb |
@wunder hoffman estates, il |
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druthb: The current temperature in Biltmore, Barrington, Illinois is -9.5°C (7:07 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
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* druthb |
shivers miserably |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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drojf |
druthb: and i thought it's cold over here ;) |
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druthb |
@wunder houston, tx |
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huginn |
druthb: Error: timed out |
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druthb |
At home, it's very nice. But I'm not at home. |
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drojf |
unfair |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 12.0°C (7:12 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
well… "nice" ;) |
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drojf |
oh it's early, 12 sounds ok then :) |
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druthb |
yeah. Sposed to warm up nicely there. But not here. |
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druthb |
Won't get above freezing here for the next couple of days |
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drojf |
i wouldn't mind a little sun. :/ |
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cait |
drojf: now you stole mine? |
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drojf |
i don't have it. someone else must have taken it |
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* druthb |
hides it under her cloak |
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drojf |
lol |
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druthb |
tryin' to stay warm! |
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cait |
drojf: maybe it was that tall norwegian guy... |
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blames magnuse |
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drojf |
yes it was probably magnuse |
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* oleonard |
too |
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oleonard |
What for? |
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drojf |
everything |
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wahanui |
i think everything is grilled |
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drojf |
oh that would be lovely wahanui |
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druthb |
wahanui: botsnack pizza |
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wahanui |
thanks druthb :) |
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* drojf |
grills magnuse |
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drojf |
does that even work in englishß ^^ |
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drojf |
? |
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druthb |
two different ways, drojf. |
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oleonard |
it does it you're interrogating him drojf |
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druthb |
which makes it *hilarious* |
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drojf |
university wifi. i love it |
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drojf |
lol druthb |
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druthb |
:P |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
druthb: so what verb would you use for 'grillen' in English? bbqing? :) |
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druthb |
either interrogating, as oleonard noted, or cooking over a hot flame. |
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druthb |
But I'd use "grilling", just for the hilarity of the ambiguity. |
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cait |
heh |
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* druthb |
is evil like that |
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* magnuse |
admits to having sun |
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drojf |
HA! |
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magnuse |
and more of than any of y'all, since we passed the equinox. so there! |
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drojf |
ok so the only option is… invite all of us |
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cait |
... |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -8.0°C (8:15 AM EDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Back to winter here. |
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druthb |
@wunder boo |
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druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:20 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
yes, it is warmer in NORWAY than it is in Chicago. So very wrong. |
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drojf |
lol |
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oleonard |
I lived in Chicago druthb, sound about right to me. |
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magnuse |
moahahaha |
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druthb |
There is nothing between Chicago and the North Pole but a thin wire fence. And some idiot cut the fence. |
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ashimema |
does magnuse taste good grilled then? |
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magnuse |
@wunder kautokeino |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -1.0°C (1:00 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
@wunder kristiansand |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Kristiansand, Norway is 8.0°C (1:20 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
that poor little bug 11130 is still looking for a comment or signoff if anyone feels like taking a look ;) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Change pl Place-publication index for Marc21 |
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drojf |
rangi++ for signing off on the other one btw |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Haven't seen these errors in the log before" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/185 |
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oleonard |
Grilled bananas? |
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banana |
is this why I'm reading the job listings in the Thrifty Nickle? |
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banana |
http://blog.manageelitetrainin[…]ave-bad-managers/ |
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oleonard |
I hear they're hiring in Norway. |
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rhcl |
Yea? I'll bet the fishing is great there. Maybe I'll check it out. |
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magnuse |
they are indeed: http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]awesome-services/ |
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magnuse |
and yes, the fishing is great :-) |
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oleonard |
cait: Regarding Bug 11570, you don't see a filter in the sidebar corresponding to the patron attribute you have linked to an authorized value? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade jQueryUI to latest version in the staff client |
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rhcl |
http://tinyurl.com/lw7qtoh |
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cait |
oleonard: i thim so |
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cait |
i can filter on lots of things, but nothign related to patron attributes |
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oleonard |
In my system, for instance, I set up an authorized value category "School," and linked it to a patron attribute called "School." On the overdues page I see a filter called "School." |
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cait |
oleonard: i tried with: myfavouritelocation reusing the LOC auth value |
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cait |
it looked like it should in the patron account where i set something for the patron in my overdues report |
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cait |
bit stuck there |
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cait |
can only try again tonight maybe |
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jcamins |
You know what I just discovered? "Sci fi" does not scan well... ever. |
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oleonard |
cait: Looks like the attribute must have "Searchable" checked as well |
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oleonard |
jcamins: What do you mean? |
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rhcl |
jcamins: are you doing a digital scanning project? |
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rhcl |
if so, you may have to lower the inteligent scanning agent sensitivity to avoid all those oddball words |
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jcamins |
Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! |
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jcamins |
No, I meant poetry. |
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cait |
oleonard: ah! |
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cait |
that will be it |
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oleonard |
@quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! |
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huginn |
oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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oleonard |
:P |
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cait |
i am logged in I think |
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oleonard |
@quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! |
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huginn |
oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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cait |
@quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! |
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huginn |
cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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oleonard |
I thought I was registered. Doesn't that mean identified with NickServ? |
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cait |
huginn is separate |
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huginn |
cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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cait |
@quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. Quote #303 added. |
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cait |
finally managed to guess my password :) |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in closeformation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
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rhcl |
cait can you reset my password? |
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rhcl |
nevermind, I guess I'm not registered yet |
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cait |
rhcl: i couldn't - not sure who runs huginn, the wiki might now |
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cait |
know |
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kivilahtio |
hi there! I have a zebraliscious question! I am trying to connect to Zebra using TCP, I can succesfully connect, find and show zebra index entries using yaz-client, but I fail to retrieve any results using the Koha Search.pn function. I launched zebra as non-daemon to capture all logs and find this error: 15:26:07-24/03 zebrasrv(3) 4027d843a47f0000 [request] Init ERROR 1011 ID:81 Name:ZOOM-C/YAZ Version:4.2.18 |
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kivilahtio |
cc3abee6f861d0166bef5333b1fc72fbdc8bd94c |
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kivilahtio |
when using yaz-client the same entry is as follows: 15:29:21-24/03 zebrasrv(4) 4027d843a47f0000 [request] Init OK - ID:81 Name:YAZ Version:4.2.18 cc3abee6f861d0166bef5333b1fc72fbdc8bd94c |
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kivilahtio |
looking into http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agenc[…]fns/bib1diag.html, I can decipher that the error "1011" is Init/AC: Bad Userid and/or Password |
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kivilahtio |
but I just can't figure out what is wrong? |
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kivilahtio |
apparently yaz-client doesn't use any kind of authentication |
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kivilahtio |
and the built-in koha uses some kind of authentication even if no authentication is needed? |
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kivilahtio |
hmm, I got it working by reinstalling |
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kivilahtio |
must be my crazy tweaking |
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kivilahtio |
I have a wet dream that I could solve even a single koha-issue by not reinstalling :) |
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The problem with working at Starbucks is not the high noise level, or even the smell (*gag*) of the coffee-sort-of that they peddle. The chairs that are at tables—even with my well-padded butt—are insanely uncomfortable. |
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bag |
morning |
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wahanui |
well, morning is a state of the cait |
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kivilahtio |
g'day bag |
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bag |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
how do you do? |
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bag |
I'm well - nice early start for me today :) |
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bag |
how you doing? |
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kivilahtio |
managed to get zebra working in my LXC configuration. This makes me happy :D |
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sophie_m |
:-) |
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kivilahtio |
no matter the needless extra steps i took |
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kivilahtio |
or just plain stupid permission mistakes i might have had |
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bag |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
progress feels good :) |
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druthb |
hey, bag. :) |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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bag |
hey druthb |
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cait |
sorry olli, not sure i understand what you want to do :) |
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cait |
and... my scrolling was broken |
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mtompset |
greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@wunder chicago |
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mtompset: The current temperature in West Loop - Old St. Pats, Chicago, Illinois is -0.7°C (10:23 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
@wunder l7e 5y5 |
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mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -5.1°C (11:24 AM EDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 12.8°C (10:25 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
You're a fish out of water. Poor Ruth. :) |
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druthb |
dern right. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. :) |
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nengard |
hiya |
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puts on his chauffeur's hat. |
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fridolin |
see you |
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kivilahtio |
bye bye everyone |
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oleonard |
netflix.com |
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... |
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netflix.com? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. Long time no see. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, sophie_m rocio. :) |
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hi mtompset |
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hey mtompset :-) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse cait. :) |
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magnuse |
hiya cait and mtompset |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
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* wajasu |
still hasn't successfully used dom, icu, facet query with yaz-client and elem zebra:facet:title:0 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: at a guess you have not added indexes correctly. I can't troubleshoot, but that's the most likely problem. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
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jcamins |
wajasu: ^^ |
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wajasu |
well that gives me a lead. i probable haven't added the index properly. i did add stuff to the retrieval xml. maybe need something in the MARC... INDEX xsl |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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wajasu |
ok. i'll try that. i think i have enough docs to reference. |
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magnuse |
there is no easy syspref for showing subjects in staff client marc21 search results, right? |
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cait |
nope |
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Rubens |
hi all |
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Rubens |
I am starting with KOHA |
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rangi |
packages? |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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rangi |
you should install using the packages |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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Rubens |
I have a collection of historical records, documents, papers (not books), can I use KOHA to manage all I have |
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jcamins |
Sure, you'll just have to catalog them in MARC, either using MARC21 or UNIMARC, depending where you are located. |
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jcamins |
marc21? |
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wahanui |
well, marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
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jcamins |
unimarc? |
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wahanui |
somebody said unimarc was http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
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Rubens |
ok... can I put online KOHA from the virtual machine with the KOHA live CD? |
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rangi |
also, Koha is a word not an acronym, you dont have to spell it KOHA :) |
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Rubens |
ok... sorry |
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rangi |
Rubens: i don't know I have never used the live cd |
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jcamins |
That would probably be a bad idea. You should install Koha ("Koha" isn't an acronym, BTW) using packages, and make sure the server is secure. You don't know how secure the live dvd/cd is, and if you run into problems, most people won't be able to offer any advice other than "try installing Koha following the usual instructions and see if it works." |
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mtompset |
Rubens: Using a Live CD for production is a bad idea. |
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jcamins |
And, for what it's worth, when my library tried doing that (way back), the system crashed every 12 hours. |
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wizzyrea |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]ea-yeah-it-is-ill |
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Rubens |
my idea is use the live cd to install, and then publish the image in Centos, using a virtual machine |
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mtompset |
CentOS?! |
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wahanui |
i think centos is only recommended if you feel that my anticipated lifespan is too long. |
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* mtompset |
laughs, "Good one, wahanui." |
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wahanui |
mtompset: i'm not following you... |
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mtompset |
Rubens: What LiveCD are you thinking about? |
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wizzyrea |
seriously don't run a livecd in production. |
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mtompset |
Because Debian (and debian-based Linux variants) is the suggested OS. |
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Rubens |
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ |
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Rubens |
ok... plz instructions to install koha |
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wizzyrea |
packages? |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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wizzyrea |
^^^ |
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jcamins |
Oh, that's fun. the live dvd is from before the latest security release. |
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mtompset |
Rubens: 3.14 is the current version. |
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mtompset |
Don't use that. |
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Rubens |
3.14 |
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Rubens |
ok |
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liw |
mmm, packages are delicious |
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mtompset |
If the Debian instructions are too sparse for you, you could try Ubuntu. :) |
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mtompset |
Ubuntu? |
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wahanui |
i heard Ubuntu was a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
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cait |
Debian is probably easier |
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cait |
and no new apache |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: https://31.media.tumblr.com/94[…]1r3gb3zo1_400.gif |
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mtompset |
no new apache, if you use 12.04LTS. :) |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: refreshing! |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea++ # love that gif. |
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cait |
hi gmcharlt :) |
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gmcharlt |
howdy all |
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* mtompset |
whispers, "If you install sudo and configure it, you can do those instructions under Debian too." |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #180 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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cait |
gmcharlt: how was egils conf? |
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Rubens |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]irtual_Appliances |
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gmcharlt |
cait: rather good, but tiring |
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* cait |
sends some coffe e |
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jcamins |
Rubens: that's not much of an improvement over the livedvd (if you're referring to the downloadable images). And if you want to do development, you shouldn't be doing it on a production server. |
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Rubens |
then... I have install packages |
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Rubens |
to development enviroment |
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jcamins |
If you're setting up a development environment, the best way to do it is with gitify. |
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jcamins |
gitify? |
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wahanui |
somebody said gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
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jcamins |
koha-gitify? |
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jcamins |
Oh, got it right the first time. |
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jcamins |
That script will convert your package installation into a git installation (you'll need to clone the Koha source code, of course) so you can do development work on it easily. |
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jcamins |
git? |
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wahanui |
i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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jcamins |
^^ for getting started with development |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ations.git;a=tags |
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rangi |
doing my first release using the po files from the translations repo |
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cait |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #180: UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/180/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #181 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #179 15 hr ago) |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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francharb_afk |
bye |
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rangi |
http://download.koha-community.org/ just the release notes to write |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #181: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/181/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: 3.12.12 release notes |
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eythian |
hi |
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* magnuse |
waves to eythian |
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wizzyrea |
no that it will be any surprise for anyone, but compatibility mode on IE 9 spectacularly breaks Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
just putting it in the log so google can find it. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: !!!! I am shocked! |
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wizzyrea |
ikr |
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rangi |
is there any sites it doesnt break? |
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jcamins |
rangi: Geocities looks the same as always. |
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eythian |
what, offline? :) |
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jcamins |
That too. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
IE of all shapes and sizes...*shudder* |
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* wizzyrea |
spits water |
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eythian |
don't do that, you'll make a mess. |
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wizzyrea |
apparently it doesn't break editing of corporate intranet sites. |
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wizzyrea |
yea, naw, that doesn't really count. |
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wizzyrea |
so no. |
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dcook |
I hope IE doesn't break Sharepoint |
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dcook |
Although I guess you never know.. |
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wizzyrea |
now that would be hilarious. |
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eythian |
Well, it's the reverse: whatever they're using was targeting IE6 and therefore more standards-complient IE9 breaks their badly written CMS. |
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dcook |
You could say the same of Koha :p |
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dcook |
Well... |
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dcook |
The more standards-compliant IE11 breaks the workarounds we used because IE sucks... |
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rangi |
no, quite teh opposite |
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dcook |
We have some IE6/7 hacks floating around as well. Or at least we did a couple versions ago |
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rangi |
except it still works fine in firefox/chrome .. anything that targets ie6 will suck in that |
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rangi |
we never targetted, we just made it work for ie6/7 without breaking firefox |
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dcook |
Mmm, there are/were definitely some IE6/7 CSS hacks |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
but they didnt break firefox |
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dcook |
True true |
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eythian |
Newer IE is going to stop identifying as IE apparently, to reduce this sort of thing happening. |
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dcook |
eythian: Already has stopped identifying as IE |
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rangi |
ie hacks breaking ie .. i dont really care about |
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dcook |
With IE 11, I think |
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eythian |
ah right. |
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rangi |
cos who cares about proprietary crap browsers anyway ... not me |
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dcook |
rangi: You don't but some of your clients might :p |
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* eythian |
heads to closing good pie place for lunch |
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rangi |
sure thats a catalyst problem |
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rangi |
not a koha one |
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* wizzyrea |
too mmmmm pie |
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dcook |
Intriguing |
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rangi |
keep the IE crap out of the main project |
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rangi |
and id be happy, |
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rangi |
for the staff client |
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eythian |
dcook: if they spend tens of thousands on a shiny new system, they're often inclined to allow firefox to make it work better. |
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dcook |
They spend considerably less with us :P |
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dcook |
That said, I have noticed a few places using Firefox |
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rangi |
thats a prosentient problem too |
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dcook |
Or even Chrome. Perhaps things are (slowly) changing |
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dcook |
rangi: v true |
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rangi |
and i do think it is an actual problem, in all seriousness |
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dcook |
Money or browsers? |
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rangi |
both |
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dcook |
I'm doubly intrigued |
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mtompset |
Musical flashback -- (http://youtu.be/dlPjxz4LGak) I thought it was money for nothing and chicks for free. ;) |
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