| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:17 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, talljoy. |
| 00:17 |
|
talljoy |
yo mtompset |
| 00:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
mtompset: acquisitions handles money and records of what has been ordered and from whom, cataloguing is the last step of that. |
| 00:22 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: acquisitions is acquiring, cataloguing is cataloguing. |
| 00:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
if that makes sense |
| 00:24 |
|
mtompset |
But doesn't receiving an acquisition actually catalog it? |
| 00:25 |
|
mtompset |
(inside the acquisitions section) |
| 00:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
cataloguing an item is part of the acquisitions workflow, yes |
| 00:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
but they are not dependent |
| 00:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
you can catalogue an item without going through acquisitions. |
| 00:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think there are people who use acquisitions but don't use it to catalogue as well, though that might be a mad scheme. |
| 00:31 |
|
mtompset |
Okay. I think I understand. Frankly, acquisitions is a horribly ugly process for a person who has never tried it before. |
| 00:32 |
|
eythian |
it is a bit of a heavyweight process. |
| 00:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep, it's special |
| 00:37 |
|
mtompset |
I think the teacher double talk word for it is... gifted. ;) |
| 00:53 |
|
tcohen |
decent hotel in london? for a couple? |
| 01:04 |
|
eythian |
Look at the reviews on e.g. booking.com |
| 01:04 |
|
eythian |
I've generally found that sort of thing reliable. |
| 01:06 |
|
rangi |
yeah, trivago.com is quite handy too |
| 01:06 |
|
* dcook |
perks up |
| 01:06 |
|
rangi |
pulls up all the deals, and has reviews |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
Going to London, tcohen? |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
there're also too many hotels in London for a useful recommendation :) I've only stayed at two, one was good because it was a week for free (a friend was the housekeeper/barmaid) and the other was just overnight. |
| 01:09 |
|
dcook |
I've only stayed at hostels in London (other than a hotel once years ago as a student) |
| 01:09 |
|
rangi |
dcook: http://junkee.com/tony-abbott-[…]ountry-back/30146 <=== awesome |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
rangi: I keep meaning to watch that... |
| 01:10 |
|
rangi |
this bit is my fave |
| 01:10 |
|
rangi |
“Prime Minister, you are welcome to take your heartless, racist exploitation of people’s fears and ram it as far from Western Australia as your taxpayer-funded travel entitlements can take you,†|
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
That's the tagline that I've seen so far :) |
| 01:11 |
|
dcook |
I can't bring myself to read the publications where he claims to be a feminist |
| 01:11 |
|
dcook |
Just nothing to be gained by consuming that media |
| 01:12 |
|
dcook |
For non-Australians: the dude is quite the misogynist. |
| 01:12 |
|
dcook |
(dcook likes actual feminists) |
| 01:19 |
|
tcohen |
dcook: yes! one of our honeymoon places |
| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
tcohen: Ah, I had the feeling that might be the case! Exciting! When do you go? |
| 01:20 |
|
tcohen |
we're going to several places |
| 01:20 |
|
tcohen |
beggining march 23 |
| 01:21 |
|
tcohen |
they all seem quite small and expensive |
| 01:21 |
|
tcohen |
just as if the Holiday Inn costs the same |
| 01:24 |
|
dcook |
That...was a great video. Go, Scott Ludlam. |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
London is a tough one :/ |
| 01:26 |
|
tcohen |
dcook: indeed! |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps ashimema might have some ideas? |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
I think he lives in/just outside of London? |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
I don't know why, but everytime I think about a few of you folks, I think of Pirate Pizza and beer |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Also tcohen is just awesome in the arcade :p |
| 01:31 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
| 01:32 |
|
tcohen |
i performed in the motorbikes, i recall |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
You really did! |
| 01:32 |
|
tcohen |
ashimema: around? |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
its about 2.30am |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
so i doubt it |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, not working hard enough then! |
| 01:33 |
|
tcohen |
d*mn sleepers |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Have you been before, tcohen? |
| 01:34 |
|
tcohen |
no dcook, first timer! |
| 01:34 |
|
tcohen |
i've only been to madrid, barcelona and roland-garros actually |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
That's so exciting! |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
Roland-garros? |
| 01:35 |
|
tcohen |
heh, i took a train at the airport, that combined with the subway took me to roland-garros |
| 01:38 |
|
rangi |
Los niños comen pan |
| 01:38 |
|
rangi |
thats about all i can remember from duolingo |
| 01:38 |
|
rangi |
i figure i can get by telling argentinians that boys eat bread |
| 01:38 |
|
rangi |
'what would you like to eat?" "the boys eat bread" |
| 01:39 |
|
rangi |
'where is your hotel?' "the boys eat bread" |
| 01:39 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
| 01:39 |
|
tcohen |
i can teach you a few |
| 01:39 |
|
tcohen |
"quiero un lomito" |
| 01:39 |
|
tcohen |
-> http://www.betos.com.ar/ |
| 01:39 |
|
eythian |
"where are my pants" |
| 01:40 |
|
tcohen |
the taste of lomitos in Cordoba is awesome |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
ohh |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
that does look good |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
i can always remember ham and eggs |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
jamon and huevo |
| 01:41 |
|
rangi |
but i always have an urge to pronounce jamon as if i was michael jackson |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
ham-ón |
| 01:42 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
eythian: pants == underwear? |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
"¿donde estan mis calzones?" |
| 01:42 |
|
dcook |
acqui = here (I believe) |
| 01:43 |
|
tcohen |
accented i |
| 01:43 |
|
tcohen |
spelled "aquÃ" |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I should've used my charmap |
| 01:45 |
|
rangi |
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic[…]lHhmQIg4Q3eCOo82g |
| 01:45 |
|
dcook |
I think aquÃ, pulpo, corazón, cerveza...might be the only words I know outside numbers |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
tcohen: But yeah I think Brits/Aussies/Kiwis might call underwear pants? |
| 01:46 |
|
* dcook |
isn't sure about that one |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
I should probably clarify before I keep talking about pants... |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
normally call them underpants |
| 01:46 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: in NZ English, it's ambiguous. |
| 01:46 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
| 01:47 |
|
eythian |
usually identifiable from the context, or being specific :) |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
It made me wonder about wizzyrea and co saying stuff is 'pants' :p |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps that's a third meaning? |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
Damned polysemy |
| 01:47 |
|
eythian |
http://www.reddit.com/r/thatpicofnzfromspace |
| 01:48 |
|
rangi |
http://onlineslangdictionary.c[…]finition-of/pants |
| 01:51 |
|
dcook |
Good one, rangi |
| 02:00 |
|
jcamins |
tcohen: base2stay. |
| 02:01 |
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| 02:01 |
|
* tcohen |
is looking for it, thanks jcamins! |
| 02:06 |
|
mtompset |
wizzyrea: Are you the one to talk to about tweaking a www.koha-community.org page? |
| 02:06 |
|
rangi |
whttps://twitter.com/ricep0d/st[…]193183232/photo/1 |
| 02:07 |
|
rangi |
hmm without the w |
| 02:07 |
|
rangi |
https://twitter.com/ricep0d/st[…]193183232/photo/1 |
| 02:08 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: pantaloons |
| 02:08 |
|
mtompset |
Haven't thought that out, eythian. :P |
| 02:09 |
|
mtompset |
I was wondering who might be able to help get a tweak to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ as per bug 11830's discussion. Or if perhaps, there's a better solution still? |
| 02:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11830 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Document disk space requirements for git install on Ubuntu |
| 02:10 |
|
eythian |
via French, from an 1580's Italian comedy character "Pantaloun" who wore tight trousers over skinny legs. Originally San Pantaleone, the name coming from Greek and meaning "all compassionate" |
| 02:10 |
|
eythian |
don't you know your history, mtompset? |
| 02:10 |
|
mtompset |
eythian: Nope. I'm a computer person, not a history buff. |
| 02:24 |
|
mtompset |
eythian, anyone? Any idea on how to trigger a case for bug 11797? I'm pretty sure this will fix it, but I don't know how to trigger it. |
| 02:24 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash |
| 02:26 |
|
eythian |
your else condition looks fishy given the if right below it, or is it doing something like not emptying out the variable, in which case it should be properly scoped? |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
ok, $subfield_to_report is badly scoped, but I can't see how that would ever get an odd number of elements. |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
Maybe if $field was undefined. |
| 02:30 |
|
mtompset |
1049... |
| 02:30 |
|
mtompset |
if the first letter does not exist in the key. |
| 02:31 |
|
eythian |
I think that the best way to fix it is to move $subfields_to_report into the foreach, fix the reference to it near the end of the function (which makes no sense), and I have no opinion on 162 because I know nothing about it. |
| 02:31 |
|
mtompset |
And that could be possible if 180, etc. came before a 162. |
| 02:31 |
|
eythian |
never rely on order in MARC |
| 02:32 |
|
mtompset |
which is why I gave the scenario. |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
and what is "1049"? |
| 02:32 |
|
mtompset |
because the 180 would set the variable to 'v....' |
| 02:32 |
|
mtompset |
and then '162' wouldn't change it. |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
the point is more that having it scoped properly is the best fix |
| 02:32 |
|
mtompset |
but there is no 'v' for a 162. |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
because it fixes a bad smell. |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
yeah, but it doesn't matter if there's no 'v' |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
oh |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
it does matter if an empty list is returned. |
| 02:33 |
|
mtompset |
which is why I put else. |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
Never depend on having particular fields or subfields in marc |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
the report should be done, and then that should be tested. |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
because if you get no output from it, you're still going to have issues. |
| 02:34 |
|
mtompset |
no, because the second 'else' uses 'a'. |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
e.g. if I make a record with only 'u' fields, that'll break this |
| 02:35 |
|
mtompset |
Yes, that is true. |
| 02:35 |
|
mtompset |
but the list needs to be comprehensive. |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
it's still assuming that the data it's looking over is correct, which is invariably a bad idea. |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
that doesn't matter. |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
as it stands, it's got a fair bit of code-smell |
| 02:36 |
|
mtompset |
actually, if the field doesn't exist, I think the $field->subfield('u') would return ''; |
| 02:36 |
|
tcohen |
night #koha, thanks for the help eythian |
| 02:36 |
|
eythian |
later |
| 02:36 |
|
mtompset |
good night, tcohen. |
| 02:37 |
|
tcohen |
night mtompset |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: and what does it return if you ask it for a subfield that doesn't exist? |
| 02:37 |
|
mtompset |
eythian: And how would you scope the variable differently? |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
err. |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
I'd scope it tighter. |
| 02:38 |
|
mtompset |
That's what I believe 'u' is... non-existent. |
| 02:38 |
|
eythian |
Scope everything as tight as possible. |
| 02:38 |
|
mtompset |
how? |
| 02:38 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: but what does it return in this case? |
| 02:38 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: by moving it into the foreach |
| 02:38 |
|
mtompset |
oh... undef. |
| 02:38 |
|
eythian |
and fixing the weird reference to it later in the function. |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
it's valid to have an undef in a hashref, so that's maybe not the source of your "odd number of items" thing. |
| 02:39 |
|
mtompset |
moving it into the foreach? |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
well, right now it's outside the foreach. |
| 02:39 |
|
mtompset |
foreach ... { my blah; ... }? |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
no |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
my $subfields_to_report; |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
foreach my $field ($record->field('1..')) { |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
becomes |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
foreach my $field ($record->field('1..')) { |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
my $subfields_to_report; |
| 02:40 |
|
mtompset |
That's what I said, but used blah. :P |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
oh right |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
so you did |
| 02:41 |
|
eythian |
but, you'll have to deal with the spurious reference to it a few lines below all this. |
| 02:41 |
|
mtompset |
well, on goes the chauffeur hat. I'll be back. |
| 02:48 |
|
rangi |
*sigh* |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
http://instagram.com/p/lL1K4xGmvZ/ <-- OBEY HOLLYWOOD |
| 02:55 |
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| 03:04 |
|
mtompset |
What's the sign for, rangi? |
| 03:06 |
|
mtompset |
Ewwww! 1130? Is that what you were talking about eythian? |
| 03:06 |
|
eythian |
huh? |
| 03:07 |
|
mtompset |
"but, you'll have to deal with the spurious reference to it a few lines below all this." |
| 03:07 |
|
mtompset |
Oops, I meant *sigh* not sign. |
| 03:08 |
|
mtompset |
Oh... someone not reading the manual? |
| 03:09 |
|
rangi |
yep just the usual |
| 03:09 |
|
eythian |
I can't talk in line numbers as I have a different version checked out. |
| 03:09 |
|
eythian |
But, it's the only other reference to subfields_to_report in the file |
| 03:12 |
|
mtompset |
It's the weird one line reference in the middle of a 6.. foreach. |
| 03:13 |
|
mtompset |
Oops 880. |
| 03:13 |
|
mtompset |
I don't get how that code even works! |
| 03:22 |
|
eythian |
I bet it doesn't |
| 03:29 |
|
mtompset |
880 is a weird field. Trying to understand it. |
| 03:32 |
|
mtompset |
well, I think the term => blah is pushed out in a way that it used by koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-authorities.inc |
| 03:36 |
|
mtompset |
880$w?! WHAT?! How do we even know 'w' is used? |
| 03:39 |
|
eythian |
never assume |
| 03:40 |
|
mtompset |
That 880 code is rather... convoluted and strange. |
| 03:42 |
|
mtompset |
oh! It assumes the 880 is only linked to 4xx or 5xx fields! |
| 03:46 |
|
eythian |
bag: I now have a very preliminary "title starts with" type search working. Now it'll be easier to do the rest. |
| 03:55 |
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| 03:55 |
|
* Oak |
waves |
| 04:02 |
|
eythian |
wajasu: patch is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/bfHvGkj.jpg |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
err |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: patch is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/bfHvGkj.jpg |
| 04:03 |
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wahanui |
...but patch is pretty old now, good luck... |
| 04:03 |
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eythian |
no wahanui, patch is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/bfHvGkj.jpg |
| 04:03 |
|
wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 04:08 |
|
mtompset |
Something like that, eythian. :) |
| 04:08 |
|
mtompset |
Hi, Oak. |
| 04:12 |
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bag |
awesome eythian |
| 04:23 |
|
Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
| 04:35 |
|
* eythian |
wonders if there's any documentation for how the QueryBuilder is supposed to work around anywhere. |
| 04:40 |
|
* mtompset |
laughs. |
| 04:40 |
|
mtompset |
Not likely, is my guess. |
| 04:41 |
|
eythian |
that sucks when you want to implement something that matches the same pattern. |
| 04:42 |
|
mtompset |
Okay... figured out a way to trigger the BuildSummary function. Now running through all our authority data. Hopefully the data point that triggered the error that got me looking at 11797 happens. |
| 04:52 |
|
dcook |
eythian: I used to have a vague idea |
| 04:52 |
|
dcook |
Wait, not QueryBuilder |
| 04:53 |
|
dcook |
What is QueryBuilder? |
| 04:53 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 04:53 |
|
dcook |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0vr1n25u4 |
| 04:53 |
|
dcook |
^ |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
it's intended to be an interface between user input and whatever search engine you're using |
| 04:54 |
|
dcook |
For the logs... |
| 04:54 |
|
dcook |
Vivian Jaffe: Have you ever transcended space and time? |
| 04:54 |
|
dcook |
Albert Markovski: Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about. |
| 04:55 |
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dcook |
eythian: That would be handy |
| 04:55 |
|
eythian |
it would be handier if it were well documented. |
| 04:56 |
|
dcook |
^ |
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mtompset |
I guess it didn't like that for loop. ;) |
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mtompset |
let's try again. :) It's only 2700ish seconds. |
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| 05:39 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 05:39 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (6:30 PM NZDT on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:42 |
|
mtompset |
woo hoo! triggered the error... |
| 05:42 |
|
mtompset |
bad news... don't know which authority number did it. |
| 05:42 |
|
wajasu |
KABOOM |
| 05:45 |
|
mtompset |
YAY! I am thankful that WGET was timestamping. :) |
| 05:45 |
|
mtompset |
found the busted authority record that generates our odd hash error. |
| 05:50 |
|
wajasu |
cool |
| 05:56 |
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mtompset |
eythian: It's a non-existent field error. It seems that blah => undef is causing the problem. |
| 05:57 |
|
mtompset |
but it isn't 162. |
| 05:57 |
|
mtompset |
It's 180. |
| 05:57 |
|
mtompset |
We have 180$x, not a 180$v. |
| 05:57 |
|
mtompset |
And the first letter is assumed to be the one to build from. |
| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
Well, maybe it isn't undef? It definitely is the hemain line, like I suspected. |
| 06:07 |
|
mtompset |
"If no matching subfields are found, undef is returned in a scalar context and an empty list in a list context." |
| 06:08 |
|
mtompset |
That's the problem. |
| 06:09 |
|
mtompset |
perl guesses the context wrong! |
| 06:41 |
|
mtompset |
Woo hoo! Found another way to trigger the same error. :) |
| 06:42 |
|
wajasu |
nice. u trigger happy? |
| 06:45 |
|
mtompset |
No. I just forgot how to trigger the first way, and I found the second way first. ;) |
| 06:54 |
|
wajasu |
are you on the verge of greatness with what you are debugging? or can you resume discussing the search behavior for lost/hidden items. |
| 07:07 |
|
wajasu |
i think i know what's needed. |
| 07:13 |
|
mtompset |
It's 2:12AM... |
| 07:13 |
|
mtompset |
I'm not quite in the right frame of mind to discuss searching. Sorry. |
| 07:13 |
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wajasu |
game over. for me as well. got a lead on something. will look into it tomorrow. |
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mtompset |
See you later today, perhaps. :) |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 1.6°C (8:32 AM CET on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
hah, i think i can top that |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
hah! |
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cait |
hm marseille has to catch up to my packing plans |
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cait |
bbl :) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya laurence reiveune marcelr |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut marcelr :) |
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laurence |
helle magnuse |
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magnuse |
hællæ! |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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Joubu |
hello |
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wahanui |
niihau, Joubu |
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cait |
@wunder Marseille |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 3.4°C (9:12 AM CET on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
"Realtor, CABRIES" does not quite sound like "marseille", though? |
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magnuse |
woohoo, look at that: http://www.yr.no/place/France/[…]rseille/long.html |
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cait |
magnuse: that's more like ti! |
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ashimema |
@later tell tcohen you called? |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
guten morgen cait |
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Oak |
Bonjour alex_a, Joubu |
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Oak |
should just use 'hi everyone' actually. hm. |
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Oak |
because otherwise i miss some. |
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Oak |
stop talking now Oak. |
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Oak |
okay. |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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HB |
Hey koha a question about field 008 if i want to change a book to continuing resource on that field it wont do that (afther i save its back the old thing again) anny tips ? |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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magnuse |
bonjour fridolin |
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paxed |
basket shows gste total rather weidly: http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/[…]et_sillyvalue.png |
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paxed |
+r |
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cait |
paxed: there are several bugs related to gst and calculation in bugzilla, also there were some questions from galen on the mailinglist some time ago, rying to figure out people's expectations |
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cait |
paxed: i think it's only a display problem there tho - looks like it will give sums for each tax rate , this is the sum for all with 10% |
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paxed |
why not FORMAT ALL CURRENCY</meme> |
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cait |
because noone got around to do it yet |
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cait |
i'd love if we had a plugin like for date formatting to take care of it |
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paxed |
i'm just surprised that a program that actually handles currency wasn't coded with currency formatting in the first place. |
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cait |
it was coded for the currency formatting expected in english speaking countries and how it works for computrs |
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cait |
... i agree that it would be nicer to have a decimal comma then a decimal point |
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cait |
but i know other library software that can't do that |
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paxed |
also that there's only one fraction after the decimal mark... |
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cait |
i think for the one you found that bit would not be hard to fix |
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cait |
TT can do it even, the old template system was not as nice |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya oleonard |
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gaetan_B |
hi oleonard |
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gaetan_B |
there's a problem in the admin with marc frameworks |
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magnuse |
gaetan_B: with memcached on? |
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gaetan_B |
the js accordion gets stuck on subfields t, did you notice it before ? |
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gaetan_B |
nope |
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magnuse |
ah, sorry, i was thinking about another problem :-) |
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gaetan_B |
i found this one while looking up bugzilla, but this seems to be another, new, bug |
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gaetan_B |
i just want to make sure it's not just with me |
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gaetan_B |
:) |
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gaetan_B |
if you try to edit constraints for a t subfield, you end up with just the headers for each section, and they won't open again |
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jcamins |
Wow, that's a funny bug. |
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* jcamins |
can reproduce. |
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oleonard |
What's something with a t? |
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jcamins |
700 |
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gaetan_B |
ok i'll open a bug on bugzilla then |
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gaetan_B |
jcamins: did you reproduce it in master |
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jcamins |
Masterish, anyway. |
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oleonard |
Simply opening the 't' tab gets you broken accordion? Or do you have to do something else? |
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jcamins |
Click on "Advanced constraints" on the t tab. |
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Viktor |
Greetings! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard jcamins #koha -- Viktor. :) -- Goes to check log files. This conversation might be interesting. :) |
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oleonard |
I guess I'm not seeing it jcamins |
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jcamins |
I'll check on latest master. |
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gaetan_B |
i have a very slow connection here and can't update my instance to a really fresh master unfortunately |
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jcamins |
I am now on latest master and I'm still seeing it. |
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gaetan_B |
ok i'll save the bug then |
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gaetan_B |
bug 11898 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , the js accordion when editing marc frameworks is broken for the t tab |
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mtompset |
Do you get any javascript errors, gaetan_B? |
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gaetan_B |
hmm not an enh though |
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gaetan_B |
i didn't check |
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jcamins |
oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/o2zXFrBNJhtY |
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gaetan_B |
i probably do |
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* mtompset |
grumbles about the default enhancement setting in bugzilla. |
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gaetan_B |
i'll leave it to you for now though, i'm in the middle of a training ;) |
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kivilahtio |
any ideas why there are two different codebases for adding items (cataloguing->additem.pl and acquisitions->neworder|empty|subscription|suggestion...) ? |
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mtompset |
I don't get that problem. |
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kivilahtio |
is there a third way ? :) |
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* oleonard |
still can't reproduce |
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mtompset |
Neither can I, oleonard. |
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mtompset |
Which version of Koha? What OS? |
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oleonard |
I'm testing on master, FF and Chrome on Windows 7. |
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jcamins |
I'll test on FF. |
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jcamins |
Works on FF. |
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gaetan_B |
i have the bug in ff 27 |
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mtompset |
I just tried IE 11. |
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mtompset |
Couldn't reproduce. |
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oleonard |
Data-dependent? |
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mtompset |
I tried FF 27.0.1 -- couldn't reproduce. I'm using Windows 7. |
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gaetan_B |
i also have it in chromium |
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gaetan_B |
i'm on ubuntu |
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oleonard |
Works for me with FF and Chrome in my Ubuntu VM |
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gaetan_B |
i don't see why this would be os dependent though |
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jcamins |
It doesn't seem to be, because I didn't change my 700 field. |
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mtompset |
Well, sometimes Ubuntu libraries aren't as current as Debian ones. |
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* magnuse |
has taken the liberty of creating http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_March_12_2014 - please feel free to edit |
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jcamins |
Works on FF under Ubuntu 12.04 for me. |
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jcamins |
But it's FF 26. |
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mtompset |
Same here, jcamins. Though, I have patched some of the other things. |
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jcamins |
Which is probably about thirty versions behind. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen. |
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mtompset |
magnuse++ # for thinking ahead. :) |
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* magnuse |
has taken the liberty of creating http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_March_12_2014 |
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magnuse |
gah |
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magnuse |
i completely forgot i wrote that the first time... |
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magnuse |
not a good sign... |
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tcohen |
morning mtompset magnuse #koha |
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mtompset |
magnuse: Either more caffeine or more sleep are probably in order. :) |
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oleonard |
Just a glitch in the Matrix magnuse |
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* magnuse |
does not drink coffee, but definitely needs more sleep |
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magnuse |
oleonard: yeah, if i close my eyes i see "raining" green numbers |
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mtompset |
I said caffeine. That includes colas, teas, or any other form of caffeine. :) |
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magnuse |
ah, that is true! :-) |
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magnuse |
maybe some kind of intravenous... |
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marcelr |
mtompset: did not see your patch for IsSuperLibrarian |
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oleonard |
Don't forget chocolate! |
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* cait |
sends cookies to magnuse |
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mtompset |
marcelr: It's easy to not find duplicates some times. :) |
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marcelr |
especially if you did not even search for them ;) |
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mtompset |
magnuse++ #intravenous caffeine. YES! Too much blood in my caffeine stream. ;) |
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magnuse |
lol |
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marcelr |
oleonard: Your suggestions on the last patch of bug 9032 are welcome (creating and modifying bootstrap template; no css changes at least from me..) Thx |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Share a list |
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oleonard |
Okay marcelr I'll take a look |
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rhcl |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn |
rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -3.9°C (8:18 AM CST on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
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* magnuse |
waves to Viktor |
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* Viktor |
waves back at magnuse |
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* mtompset |
waves at Viktor and magnuse in an attempt to get a wave going around the room. ;) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rhcl. :) |
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Viktor |
Btw - a HOLD_PRINT notice problem: <<branches.branchname>> and other values under <<branches. >> seems to collect the branch that owns a copy instead of the branch where the patron can collect the copy. Is this expected or did we just mess things up? |
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cait |
Viktor: hm if you compare to the emails, is it the same there or only for the print? |
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rhcl |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
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mtompset |
Still not so strong in that regard. :( |
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Viktor |
cait: Hm. We don't use email much as of yet. But when we print the messages for different branches this happens when a book is borrowed from another branch. |
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cait |
i wonder if one of the settings would influence it |
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Viktor |
cait: problem is of course that people will go to the wrong branch. |
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cait |
we don't use the print notices :( |
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cait |
Viktor: maybe file a bug as a first step? |
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cait |
Viktor: it doesn't sound right |
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Viktor |
I'll do that then cait - thanks! Just wanted to know if I misunderstood this first. |
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Viktor |
Is there any cheat sheet for what those codes are suppose to contain? http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#noticemarkup keeps it to a quite general level. |
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cait |
hm not really |
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cait |
ithink it's a bit trial and error currently |
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fridolin |
bye |
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* dbs |
would like to ensure that the settings for bug 11786 are correct for getting said fixes into master and 3.14 (specifically targeting 3.14 as the version) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Needs Signoff , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap |
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cait |
hi dbs - it still needs a sign off, maybe that will happen next week at the hackfest |
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AmitG |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, AmitG |
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AmitG |
all |
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AmitG |
gaetan_B around? |
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gaetan_B |
hi AmitG, long time no see! |
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dbs |
cait: right, mostly I wanted to ensure that I didn't inadvertently set something that kept it from being visible in a "to sign-off / to QA" kind of queue :) |
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dbs |
cait++ |
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cait |
nope it looks alright :) |
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oleonard |
Anyone know of a library which is running the new bootstrap opac theme in production? |
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oleonard |
I posted an intro to the new Bootstrap theme on my Koha blog: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/new[…]-theme-bootstrap/ |
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cait |
oh cool |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
oleonard: we are still on 3.12.. just arrive dther eto be honest with all of them |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
but i will sure need this at some point |
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cait |
Joubu++ for taking on the oldest open bug :) |
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rhcl |
cait: would you say that the springer databases are popular in Europe? http://link.springer.com/ |
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cait |
the ebooks are very popular |
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cait |
not sure about the databases - I hear less about it as that is separate from the ILS |
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cait |
sorry, have to run:) post office closes in half an hour |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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barton |
Hey, I'm just curious: who else in #koha does tech support for Koha as their primary job? |
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wajasu |
barton: this may help http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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barton |
wajasu: Thanks! Very good to know. |
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oleonard |
And you can add yourself barton :) |
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barton |
oleonard: I'm just registering for a wiki login so that I can do that :-) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
And if anyone else here is a regular but not on that list please add yourselves! |
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oleonard |
On the other hand, some on that list are no longer regulars |
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cait |
barton: do you need confirmation for your wiki account? |
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oleonard |
No more hdl, libsysguy, sekjal... |
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nengard |
some job titles are wrong too ... |
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barton |
cait: yes... as a matter of fact, your post was mere milliseconds after I clicked 'submit' :-)\ |
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cait |
give me a sec |
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barton |
nengard: yes. In fact there are a number of people listed as bywater employees who are no longer... |
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barton |
(come back! come back!) |
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nengard |
hehe |
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cait |
barton: confirmed:) |
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nengard |
not a big deal as i see it - those people might still come in channel an then at least we know who they are :) |
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bag |
@seen sekjal |
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huginn |
bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 43 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <sekjal> our camera was put up late this year; the eggs were already there when we installed |
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nengard |
:( |
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barton |
cait: gratzi! |
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nengard |
sad |
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cait |
barton: huh? :) |
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barton |
cait: 'gratzi' == 'thank you' in Italian. |
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rhcl |
maybe there should be a way to mark list members as "inactive" if they haven't been on channel for a year or two. |
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rhcl |
I also note (and just updated my own listing) that the non-US people tend to list their country code, and nearly all the US people fail to do so. - FWIW |
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rhcl |
@seen rch |
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huginn |
rhcl: I have not seen rch. |
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nengard |
country added to mine |
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rhcl |
druthb is still listed as ByWater. \\Where are all them skittles that fell on the floor when you need some ammo?\\ |
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* druthb |
has skittles. |
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* bag |
needs one of these http://bugasalt.com/ to hit the skittles as they fly this way |
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mtompset |
cool gun, bag. |
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barton |
salty lime jello? 8-P |
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cait |
editing druthb's on her request |
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* cait |
glares a little |
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* druthb |
chuckles. |
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* barton |
notices that the wiki is glaring back at cait. |
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druthb |
hi, bag! :) |
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bag |
hey |
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cait |
it's a mediawiki... it has every reason to |
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rhcl |
@seen ricardo |
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huginn |
rhcl: ricardo was last seen in #koha 3 years, 4 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <ricardo> thd: With NICKSERV commands :) Write /nickserv help register |
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rhcl |
@seen Space_Librarian |
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huginn |
rhcl: Space_Librarian was last seen in #koha 1 year, 7 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Space_Librarian> lol. good one. |
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cait |
she has a new job too |
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rhcl |
@seen cjh |
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huginn |
rhcl: cjh was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 42 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <cjh> heh |
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rhcl |
I need a new job. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (US) I should be a sysadmin for an oil company. |
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rhcl |
If I read the stats correctly, they pay the top 90% of wages for this job title. Wonder what life on an oil rig in the Gulf is like? |
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rhcl |
I'd think the fishing would be great. |
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pianohacker |
Hi |
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rhcl |
hi pianohacker |
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mtompset |
Greetings, pianohacker. |
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pianohacker |
hi guys |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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cait |
did you see my mail about dinner on sunday? |
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pianohacker |
Yes, haven't gotten a chance to read yet |
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cait |
tsk :) |
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magnuse |
i *might* join you for dinner on sunday, if you'll let me |
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magnuse |
but i'll have to stay in until 19:00, and it all depends on the little'un |
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magnuse |
so i'll just catch up if i can, don't wait for me |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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cait |
magnuse: i have been thinking about returning to the spot at 7 |
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cait |
because some people can#t make it it seems |
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cait |
just have a beer/coffee somewhere close or walk down to the harbour or so |
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magnuse |
kewl |
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pianohacker |
beer coffee? I've had coffee beer |
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cait |
just try to be there ok? :) |
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cait |
magnuse: i added it to the hackfest doc - on a new tab - add your name/time as a reminder maybe? |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
cait: done |
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cait |
thx :) |
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rangi |
morning |
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khall |
good mornin rangi! |
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rangi |
morning khall :) are you a dad yet? |
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khall |
et al |
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khall |
not quite yet ; ) |
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khall |
Tomorrow is the official due date, but so far there's no indication anything is going to happen |
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khall |
We've got an appointment on Monday. They'll decide then if we should think about getting her induced |
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khall |
She's gonna be a big baby, 9+ pounds, so they don't want to wait too long ; ) |
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cait |
:) |
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khall |
how's cait today? |
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cait |
tired? :) |
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cait |
how is kyle? :) |
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khall |
full of anticipation |
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rangi |
oh yeah that is a big baby |
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khall |
I think it's scaring my wife! She's totally changed her mind about avoiding a c-section ; ) |
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magnuse |
heh, 4 kilos, eh? |
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khall |
indeed! |
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rangi |
fair enough! |
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rangi |
kahu was 3.04 kg, and atarau was 4.24kg |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to start packing for marseille |
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khall |
that's a pretty big baby! |
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* khall |
wishes everyone a great hackfest in marseille! |
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cait |
we'll miss you |
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mtompset |
Indeed. Looking forward to watching those needs sign offs dropping drastically. :) |
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* wajasu |
Search getRecords is a real piece of work. |
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rangi |
luckily its not much longer for this world |
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* pianohacker |
wants a turn at that chopping block |
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rangi |
zomg |
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rangi |
ole is at 3.3 million now |
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pianohacker |
? |
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rangi |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=18995 |
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rangi |
3.1 sorry |
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rangi |
oh i lie |
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rangi |
With this latest grant, IU has now received more than $4 million from Mellon for the OLE project. |
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rangi |
thats a crap ton of money |
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jcamins |
rangi: I know! |
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wajasu |
i'm trying to reconcile hiddenitems, lostitems, etc with optional biblio results display, and auto details redirect, whilst being concerned about 9 pound babies. |
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pianohacker |
40 developers at $100,000 for a year? You could make a lot of something with that |
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rangi |
yup |
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bag |
man we need to start writing grants |
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rangi |
we do |
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pianohacker |
any bets on whether it'll be a good something? |
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rangi |
its java |
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pianohacker |
augh |
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rangi |
it'll be a big something |
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bag |
we = something with koha that could recieve that money and put it to good use (not a for-profit) :) |
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pianohacker |
maybe a good something |
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pianohacker |
but definitely a good something |
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pianohacker |
*big something |
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* pianohacker |
needs to finish his keyboard so he can type |
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tcohen |
isn't OLe free software? |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
of a sort |
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rangi |
id say its open source |
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tcohen |
no community |
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rangi |
not free software |
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jcamins |
rangi: I'd say it's almost open source, anyway. |
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druthb |
it's also so enormous that it requires a herd of geeks to keep it happy. LOTS of moving parts. |
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rhcl |
the license seems to be OSI approved open source |
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druthb |
As I told someone from there at code4lib a couple years ago, "it's so huge that there are only about a dozen universities in the world that'll be capable of using it." |
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rhcl |
"Kuali software is available, without fee, for anyone to use or modify under the Educational Community License." |
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jcamins |
rhcl: I'd be a lot more impressed by that fact if there were actual source available. Last time I looked, there wasn't. |
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rhcl |
well, I don't know of course, but surely it must be somewhere to have an approved OS license |
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tcohen |
what does Ole perform in that we don't? file repository + ILS? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: it replaces that giant Oracle program. |
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jcamins |
I can't think of what it's called. |
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jcamins |
For HR. |
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cait |
ERM |
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rhcl |
source code seems to be available here: https://www.kuali.org/download |
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cait |
Electronic resource management |
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* tcohen |
is not sure it is Oracle dependent |
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jcamins |
No, not ERM. |
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barton |
druthb: http://all-sorts.org/nouns/geeks |
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wajasu |
SAP? |
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jcamins |
That really, really big one that enterprises use. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: that's it. |
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cait |
jcamins: for what it odes we don't |
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cait |
at least that's what i am told :) |
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mveron |
Hi #Koha |
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jcamins |
rhcl: oh, looks like they have it available now. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: Java + Tomcat |
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tcohen |
+ MySQL |
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jcamins |
tcohen: no, I don't mean that it uses Oracle, I meant that it provides SAP-like functionality. |
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cait |
kuali has different software |
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cait |
i think the financial part is rice |
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cait |
it's more thought to be a management software for the whole university |
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wajasu |
accounting, etc |
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tcohen |
I've seen the interface |
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tcohen |
of the ILS component |
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rhcl |
all those modules you're talking about are on the download page: https://www.kuali.org/download |
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druthb |
jcamins, I know the one you're talking about, but can't think of the name... |
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jcamins |
druthb: wajasu thought of it. SAP. |
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pianohacker |
oh, they'll be fine. We've proven that Tomcat isn't at all a barrier to deployment |
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tcohen |
it seems to have something we lack of, which is the posibility to define custom workflows |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: ::snrrrk:: |
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tcohen |
instead of having a harcoded one |
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druthb |
no, SAP is more manufacturing based…there's another one that is University centric, does classes, grades, all kinds of things *except* ILS |
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jcamins |
druthb: I thought that was SAP, too. |
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druthb |
I'm hunting for it...sec |
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rangi |
SAP does everything |
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rangi |
they throw it banking, academic institutes |
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rangi |
it works about as well as you would expect |
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rangi |
the other pile of crap |
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rangi |
is peoplesoft |
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rangi |
which is utter shite |
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rangi |
and costs about 7 houses |
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druthb |
The university I was at had a system they just *loved*—on paper. In operation, it sucked rocks. |
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mveron |
I'm looking for a pattern on how to fix Bug 11906 - Bad display of utf-8 chars in Patron lists (Datatable) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11906 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Bad display of utf-8 chars in Patron lists (Datatable) |
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rangi |
ah right |
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rangi |
mveron: tcohen is probably the best to talk to about that |
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wajasu |
i was playing with java with apache camel message gateway to koha via a STOMP message protocol so that koha could call java services on an ESB. such as Solr, ElasticSearch, payment gateways, etc |
| 20:23 |
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druthb |
SCT Banner. That's the one. |
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pianohacker |
druthb: Wait, hold on. Now supported by Ellucian? |
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druthb |
Now owned by Ellucian. |
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druthb |
yeah, that's them. |
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rhcl |
? |
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druthb |
http://www.ellucian.com/studen[…]formation-system/ |
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druthb |
? |
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pianohacker |
guess what my university uses, and I am trying to interface with for a scheduling app I inherited? |
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jcamins |
druthb: yes, SIS. That's what I was thinking of. |
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druthb |
I'm told that it's not too outrageous to develop against. I did an interface between Banner and a Symphony box to pass billing along. |
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tcohen |
mveron: i can take a look tomorrow |
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Starting build #452 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Docs build #452: SUCCESS in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/452/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update fund restriction with note |
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mveron |
tcohen: Thanks. :-) |
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druthb |
There was an older system called SIS, too, by …. Z-systems, I think. |
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druthb |
they had an FRS and an HRS and some other goodies too |
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jcamins |
A Fellow of the Royal Society was involved?!? |
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druthb |
that was a VMS-based text-terminal system, and you had "screens" you called up with stuff like SIS009 and such. |
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cjh_ |
rhcl: morning, you rang? |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update fund restriction with note |
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* tcohen |
hates finding bugs |
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* mveron |
Hates bugs found by customers :-) |
| 20:41 |
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wajasu |
are facets, the box to the left (Availability, Auhtors, Libraries ...) ? |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
can I just say, I really love how consistent people are about putting bug numbers on their commits these days. |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
super good work everybody. |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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cait |
wizzyrea: true :) |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
also test plans |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
^ room for improvement but HEAPS and HEAPS better than it used to be |
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wajasu |
test plans are awesome. at least it gives context for where to go even if minimal. |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
my theory is that we don't notice the good change often, we are too close to see |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
but actually lots of things move :) |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
in a good direction |
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wizzyrea |
I find, at least once a week, a new feature that delights me. |
| 20:45 |
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wizzyrea |
Oh you can batch edit items from the detail screen! THat's awesome! or Patron lists! That's awesome! |
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cait |
:) |
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tcohen |
is anyone used to the cover fetching codE? |
| 20:53 |
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tcohen |
I don't see how are we showing covers based on ISSN |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think we are, I've only observed isbn |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
unless you have an example |
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tcohen |
reading the code I find that we don't |
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tcohen |
was asking just in case I missed something |
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wizzyrea |
afaik, (and according to the code) we don't use ISSN - you can do a local cover for those |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
periodicals and DVD's are hard to get covers for. |
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tcohen |
thanks liz |
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wizzyrea |
yep yw |
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mtompset |
mveron: Thanks for bumping me into 5th. :( |
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mtompset |
mveron++ # for number of sign offs. |
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mveron |
:-) |
| 21:05 |
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cait |
mveron++ :) |
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mveron |
Sign off is a good way to learn a lot about koha :-) |
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mtompset |
Yes, particularly with the more detailed ones. |
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* mveron |
...tok a lot of the easy ones... |
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mveron |
took |
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wajasu |
when the marc record item status is sent to "Lost". does the itemlost in the item table get syncronized? |
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wajasu |
sent/set/ |
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mveron |
Oh, it's late... Good night everybody :-) |
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mtompset |
mveron: Good day (24 hour period) :) |
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mtompset |
DOH! I forgot to ask nengard a question. |
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mveron |
:-) |
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wizzyrea |
she's still here, nlengard? |
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wizzyrea |
(I think?) |
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wizzyrea |
nlegrand, that is not the same thing as nlengard. Wow that's a letter mixup, sorry! |
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cait |
i think legrand is from france |
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cait |
nle... |
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wizzyrea |
that makes a lot more sensel |
| 21:12 |
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wizzyrea |
sense. |
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cait |
i can tell you more after next week :) |
| 21:12 |
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wizzyrea |
sensel. Like tinsel, but with sense! |
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mtompset |
Looks like the blou ping system has timed out. :( |
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cait |
? |
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eythian |
hi |
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tcohen |
@later tell oleonard I need to ask you about the GetMarcISBN code, it should look just like GetMarcISSN but it doesn't |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
tcohen: if you start looking at the cover code anyway... could you please tell it to use isbn13? |
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cait |
in 3.12 there is code that normalizes to isbn10 |
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cait |
which is... kinda backwards |
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wizzyrea |
it is if amazon recognises isbn13 |
| 21:23 |
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wizzyrea |
it isn't if they dont :/ |
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rangi |
thats cos amazon only recognises 10 |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
i think that might not be true any longer |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
or you would never get covers for new books |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
that would be wicked. |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
it is for most of their catalogue |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
until they go back and backfill, which i cant imagine them doing anytime fast |
| 21:25 |
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tcohen |
cait: i've been there, but my work didn't have feedback and I left it |
| 21:25 |
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wajasu |
maybe if none found, try isbn13 |
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wizzyrea |
cait - do you have an example 13 that has no 10 in Amazon? |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
every new book |
| 21:26 |
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tcohen |
as far as I can tell we should move all that external cover libs into template plugins, and make them adjust the ISBN's to whatever each service needs |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
yep |
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tcohen |
and close bug 706 of course :-P |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
amazon have their own numbering scheme |
| 21:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=706 minor, P2, ---, henridamien, CLOSED FIXED, newbasket2.pl search results page has no 'previous' link |
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tcohen |
no, not that one |
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rangi |
they dont really care |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
tcohen: woiuld love that |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
also have the server get the image |
| 21:28 |
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tcohen |
bug 906 |
| 21:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , ISBN Check |
| 21:28 |
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rangi |
cait: thats against T&c |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: they seemto have lot of isbn10 around... but actually you shouldn't be able to have an isbn10 for every isbn13 |
| 21:28 |
|
cait |
rangi: you have to have the client get the picture? |
| 21:29 |
|
rangi |
yes |
| 21:29 |
|
cait |
i really need to add that german service we have now :( |
| 21:29 |
|
rangi |
for amazon at least |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.amazon.com/The-Futu[…]1394141256&sr=1-3 THis book is brand new, it has both. |
| 21:30 |
|
cait |
wizzyrea: yeah found a few too |
| 21:31 |
|
cait |
I think the problem i ran into was that the german provier doesn't do isbn10 at all |
| 21:31 |
|
cait |
but only isbn13 |
| 21:31 |
|
cait |
so just the other way around |
| 21:31 |
|
cait |
so what tcohen said, should be plugins |
| 21:32 |
|
rangi |
when you cache content, (like you do if the server fetches it) you have to read really carefully all the terms of service |
| 21:32 |
|
rangi |
and make sure you comply, cos its now your problem |
| 21:32 |
|
rangi |
if the client fetches, it's their problem |
| 21:32 |
|
cait |
i don#t want to cache really |
| 21:32 |
|
rangi |
you are caching |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
if you fetch, then return it to the browser |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
you are caching |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
thats the point |
| 21:33 |
|
cait |
hm ok, don't fetch for a longer time |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
only some API define a time |
| 21:33 |
|
cait |
i think the german provider really allows that |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
google you cant keep longer thanthe headers allow |
| 21:33 |
|
cait |
because it started with that kind of discussion |
| 21:33 |
|
rangi |
which is ok, amazon, you cant do it at all |
| 21:34 |
|
cait |
data privacy... |
| 21:34 |
|
wahanui |
i heard data privacy was an important topic for us |
| 21:34 |
|
rangi |
so its not as simple as making them all fetch it has to be a case by case thing,and you want actual lawyers to read the T&C |
| 21:34 |
|
cait |
there was an article in a big newspaper here about a university library catalog using amazon for covers |
| 21:34 |
|
rangi |
yep, im just saying it opens the project up for getting sued |
| 21:35 |
|
rangi |
if people muck it up |
| 21:35 |
|
cait |
maybe the plugin idea is not a bad one |
| 21:35 |
|
tcohen |
you have to do it in-house and take responsibility |
| 21:35 |
|
cait |
yeah |
| 21:35 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 21:35 |
|
cait |
for example in order for it to be legal for a library here to display covers |
| 21:35 |
|
cait |
not only the service provider terms need to be considered I think |
| 21:36 |
|
cait |
because there is copyright on covers |
| 21:36 |
|
cait |
but there exists some kind of contract negotiated by one of the library associations to cover that |
| 21:36 |
|
cait |
it's all terribly complicated :( |
| 21:37 |
|
rangi |
yes |
| 21:37 |
|
rangi |
not something you can solve by a general thing in koha |
| 21:37 |
|
cait |
yeah... but everyone wants covers |
| 21:38 |
|
cait |
something you can plug in easily maybe |
| 21:43 |
|
wajasu |
does anyone know how the "refine your search" Availabiliy should work? if i have 2 books, both marked as lost, should the biblio inthe results be hidden when one sees "Limit to currently available items" ? |
| 21:44 |
|
wajasu |
i'm in the prog theme |
| 21:45 |
|
eythian |
That's what I'd expect. Whether it does that, I don't know... |
| 21:47 |
|
eythian |
cait: kristina just gave us big blocks of German chocolate :) |
| 21:47 |
|
cait |
cool, wha tkind? :) |
| 21:48 |
|
cait |
and she didn't bring some boring but consistent beer for you? :) |
| 21:48 |
|
eythian |
She had some Ritter Sport, but I brought back ~1kg of that from Berlin, so I took the Milka instead. |
| 21:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
mine is joghurt ritter, which, joghurt is what happens to me when I job |
| 21:48 |
|
eythian |
Alas, no :) |
| 21:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
well that was freudian. |
| 21:49 |
|
eythian |
wizzyrea: it was also joghurt ritter that I gave you when I came back, IIRC :) |
| 21:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes it was! |
| 21:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
well there were a couple kinds in there. |
| 21:50 |
|
eythian |
https://www.google.co.nz/searc[…]biw=1918&bih=1012 <-- that is actually what it looks like inside. It's pretty cool. |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
wowie |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
honestly must get to germany one day. |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
europe generally. |
| 21:51 |
|
cait |
i really like ritter sport |
| 21:52 |
|
wajasu |
all color coded! |
| 21:52 |
|
cait |
the put ads on stairs, it's quite nice sometimes |
| 21:53 |
|
cait |
eythian: actually you were much closer here to th ehome of ritter sport than in berlin :) |
| 21:53 |
|
eythian |
heh, where's it actually from? |
| 21:53 |
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cait |
eythian: iirc they are close to stuttgart, where we had the workshop |
| 21:53 |
|
eythian |
ah right |
| 21:54 |
|
cait |
i will probably bring some to france |
| 21:54 |
|
cait |
i think you can't get all flavours there a tleast... |
| 21:54 |
|
cait |
quite hard to find something that's not available all over europe |
| 21:55 |
|
cait |
http://www.ritter-sport.de/#/de_DE/waldenbuch |
| 21:55 |
|
* magnuse |
will manage to do that ;-) |
| 21:55 |
|
eythian |
it'll be like raw herring or something. |
| 21:55 |
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dcook joined #koha |
| 21:56 |
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rangi |
i got schoko bang, which is zarbitter mit chili |
| 21:56 |
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irma joined #koha |
| 21:56 |
|
magnuse |
eythian: mohahahaha |
| 21:56 |
|
magnuse |
kia ora irma! |
| 21:57 |
|
cait |
magnuse: hmpf :) |
| 21:57 |
|
magnuse |
oops, still no packing done and we leave for marseille early on saturday |
| 21:57 |
|
cait |
rangi: yummy |
| 21:57 |
|
cait |
I still need to do laundry... |
| 21:58 |
|
cait |
but leaving on Sunday, have a bit more time :) |
| 21:58 |
|
magnuse |
cait: lucky you ;-) |
| 21:58 |
|
cait |
or lucky you :) |
| 21:58 |
|
eythian |
I managed to get mine done on the last fine day that was then followed by 4 days of rain and wind. |
| 21:58 |
|
eythian |
it was quite fortunate. |
| 21:59 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 21:59 |
|
huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.7°C (10:55 PM CET on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:00 |
|
eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 22:00 |
|
huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:00 |
|
eythian |
it's been better here since yesterday or so |
| 22:00 |
|
dcook |
^ |
| 22:01 |
|
dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
| 22:01 |
|
huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (8:30 AM EST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:02 |
|
rangi |
http://www.zazzle.com/basic_bl[…]35591693917266452 <--- nice |
| 22:02 |
|
rangi |
not the price, i cant afford 33.95 for a tshirt, but the design is nice :) |
| 22:02 |
|
dcook |
I was just thinking that, rangi :p |
| 22:03 |
|
cait |
rangi: the mahara stuff is really nice too |
| 22:03 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 22:03 |
|
rangi |
it really is |
| 22:03 |
|
cait |
we should have nice koha stuff! |
| 22:03 |
|
magnuse |
wow, that would be expensive for a tshirt even in norway |
| 22:03 |
|
rangi |
http://www.cafepress.com/mahara/9943875 |
| 22:04 |
|
rangi |
http://www.cafepress.com/mf/74[…]oductId=751374936 |
| 22:05 |
|
rangi |
http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34[…]oductId=298433291 too |
| 22:05 |
|
cait |
git commited to koha :) |
| 22:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
I have one of those :) |
| 22:05 |
|
cait |
wonder how expensive shipping would be |
| 22:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's humongous |
| 22:06 |
|
dcook |
^ |
| 22:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
the caffienated beverage of my choice in that would make me fly to the moon. |
| 22:06 |
|
cait |
i was afraid it would be |
| 22:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
so I use it for pens. |
| 22:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
:P |
| 22:06 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: I have no idea what you just said, but it sounds frightening? |
| 22:06 |
|
cait |
rangi: was thinking of those especially: http://www.cafepress.com/mahara/9960700 |
| 22:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
just that if I drank that much coffee I'd have enough power to jitter my way to the moon. |
| 22:07 |
|
cait |
wizzyrea: is 11897 a thing in US? |
| 22:08 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Ahhh. |
| 22:08 |
|
* eythian |
wonders what would make good work music for today. |
| 22:08 |
|
bag |
bag? |
| 22:08 |
|
wahanui |
I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 22:08 |
|
bag |
YAY! |
| 22:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
cait: err, I can see the utility of that. |
| 22:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
I never had any libraries that did that |
| 22:09 |
|
dcook |
eythian: That's a good question. |
| 22:09 |
|
rhcl |
bag: ever attend any minor league games? season will be starting soon |
| 22:10 |
|
dcook |
Err, wondering |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
i haven't had heard of it either, but it seems to be common in UK |
| 22:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
dcook? |
| 22:10 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client |
| 22:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
snicker. |
| 22:10 |
|
dcook |
I... |
| 22:10 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 22:10 |
|
bag |
rhcl I have attended minor league games |
| 22:11 |
|
bag |
I used to go to the beehive in new britian ct all the time |
| 22:11 |
|
rhcl |
I've attended a couple of these: http://www.milb.com/index.jsp?sid=t440 |
| 22:13 |
|
rangi |
eythian: https://soundcloud.com/kowtow-[…]/03-nature-of-man |
| 22:14 |
|
rangi |
for some wellington sounds |
| 22:15 |
|
mtompset |
http://youtu.be/qtFBRJFN3p8 (Frank Sinatra, wizzyrea) |
| 22:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes, just like that :) |
| 22:17 |
|
eythian |
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2587 |
| 22:22 |
|
eythian |
http://conferencecall.biz/ |
| 22:29 |
|
* eythian |
just google musics "headless chickens", and hits "radio". That'll do for the next hour or two. |
| 22:29 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 22:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
O.o |
| 22:30 |
|
eythian |
http://youtu.be/GUBosuLLUvQ <-- wizzyrea, start here |
| 22:30 |
|
* wizzyrea |
pauses her dub-trance |
| 22:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh that is less metal than I expected. |
| 22:31 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: ... you listen to dub trance? :D |
| 22:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
... yes |
| 22:32 |
|
pianohacker |
... could I trouble you for some links, oh miss who I have an unexpected shared interest with? |
| 22:33 |
|
eythian |
wizzyrea: not metal at all, 90's NZ music. |
| 22:33 |
|
tcohen |
night #koha |
| 22:33 |
|
eythian |
good for a sunny Friday |
| 22:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
I like it :) |
| 22:33 |
|
rangi |
pianohacker: https://soundcloud.com/stinkah[…]stinkahz-in-paris |
| 22:33 |
|
eythian |
even if there's no BBQ going :) |
| 22:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
there should totally be a bbq going. |
| 22:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's the most summery day out there, and it's fracking autumn. |
| 22:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
after about 3 days of winter. |
| 22:34 |
|
rangi |
pianohacker: https://soundcloud.com/a-tribe[…]called-red-braves (not trance at all) |
| 22:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://soundcloud.com/soundre[…]young-years-sound < is what I was listening to before headless chickens. |
| 22:34 |
|
rangi |
but a tribe called red are cool |
| 22:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
that is probably less dub than trance |
| 22:35 |
|
rangi |
https://soundcloud.com/a-tribe-called-red |
| 22:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
rangi really covers the dubstep better than I do |
| 22:35 |
|
rangi |
dubstep you says |
| 22:36 |
|
* dcook |
wonders if he is the hipster of #koha... |
| 22:36 |
|
* wizzyrea |
gears up for the "can rangi find the music" game |
| 22:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's one of my favourite games. |
| 22:36 |
|
dcook |
But...I wear new clothes and sensible glasses.. |
| 22:36 |
|
* pianohacker |
is listening to links now |
| 22:36 |
|
rangi |
https://soundcloud.com/dubstep[…]ire-saturn-by-sgt |
| 22:37 |
|
rangi |
the drop is pretty epic, and it takes a long time to get there |
| 22:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
dcook: sometimes the things go together: https://soundcloud.com/soundre[…]ne-sound-remedyyy |
| 22:39 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea++ |
| 22:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ I happen to find that remix *amazing* |
| 22:39 |
|
dcook |
She's super nervous on stage |
| 22:39 |
|
dcook |
Saw them play back in February |
| 22:39 |
|
rangi |
course i dont just listen to dubstep |
| 22:40 |
|
rangi |
i listen to almost any random remix |
| 22:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
actually most of the sound remedy stuff I like quite well. |
| 22:40 |
|
rangi |
https://soundcloud.com/escort-[…]e-slow-sleng-teng <-- for example |
| 22:40 |
|
rangi |
one for dcook, you cant live in australia and not worship kylie |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
I'm not born here though, so I might get an exemption |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
I probably need to file some paperwork for it though... |
| 22:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
LIEs. |
| 22:41 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
Friend of mine here in Sydney: https://soundcloud.com/jamesflamestar |
| 22:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh that feel the fire one is quite good |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
I especially like "Strawberries and Razorblades" from Stargazers |
| 22:41 |
|
rangi |
dcook: https://soundcloud.com/12thflo[…]er-youth-love-thy <-- maybe more your speed |
| 22:42 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is not super keen on ear bleeding dubstep |
| 22:42 |
|
pianohacker |
any love for chvrches? |
| 22:42 |
|
dcook |
^ |
| 22:42 |
|
rangi |
not after what happened last time |
| 22:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
I like the stuff that mixes progressive trance and dubstep |
| 22:42 |
|
|
cait left #koha |
| 22:42 |
|
dcook |
Oh, we drove her away |
| 22:42 |
|
eythian |
Norway's music scene has opinions on chvrches too... |
| 22:43 |
|
rangi |
dcook: i might also ambush people .. warning |
| 22:43 |
|
* dcook |
fetches a link for eythian |
| 22:43 |
|
pianohacker |
eythian: Norway? |
| 22:43 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it Norway is beautiful |
| 22:43 |
|
dcook |
eythian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZGa40Hl4zI |
| 22:44 |
|
pianohacker |
I really like the london grammar remix, really nice vocal/dubsteppy mix |
| 22:44 |
|
rangi |
pianohacker: and the last link for today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88hU078nUQs |
| 22:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://soundcloud.com/soundre[…]g-you-soundremedy |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
@rangi++ |
| 22:45 |
|
rangi |
you can blame eythian for that one |
| 22:45 |
|
huginn |
pianohacker: downloading the Perl source |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
good stuff |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
dammit |
| 22:45 |
|
eythian |
dcook: Norway's major export: black metal. |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
rangi++ |
| 22:45 |
|
eythian |
err ^-- pianohacker rather |
| 22:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
because they have darkness in their souls because long dark winters. |
| 22:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
or something. |
| 22:45 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... something is sketchy |
| 22:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's me, I admit. |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
oh that wasn't a typo, the band CHVRCHES |
| 22:45 |
|
pianohacker |
derp |
| 22:46 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker: I've only listened to a few songs, but I've liked 'em |
| 22:46 |
|
pianohacker |
sweet :) |
| 22:46 |
|
* wizzyrea |
has not listened but will |
| 22:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah music day in #koha, I have missed it. |
| 22:46 |
|
dcook |
rangi, wizzyrea: digging both daughter remixxes |
| 22:46 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 22:46 |
|
rangi |
id totally go to a babymetal concert |
| 22:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehehe |
| 22:47 |
|
rangi |
looks hella fun |
| 22:47 |
|
dcook |
I still have yet to read that article.. |
| 22:48 |
|
rangi |
eythian: imagine them opening kiwicon :) |
| 22:48 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 22:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
l. o. l. |
| 22:48 |
|
pianohacker |
oh damn this feel the fire mix is goooood |
| 22:48 |
|
eythian |
rangi: I accidentally had two of those links playing at the same time about 0.2 seconds out, it sounds a lot better like that. |
| 22:48 |
|
rangi |
kiwicon last year was opened with a metal band |
| 22:48 |
|
rangi |
best opening keynote ever |
| 22:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 22:49 |
|
dcook |
another Norwegian export apparently: http://grooveshark.com/s/The+F[…]Tale/2CI41o?src=5 |
| 22:49 |
|
dcook |
Wha? |
| 22:49 |
|
rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moTXALu7BrI <--shaky camera angle, but you get the idea |
| 22:51 |
|
dcook |
I really need to cross the ditch sometime |
| 22:52 |
|
dcook |
You folks are neat |
| 22:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xptIEkCHTZ4 |
| 22:53 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea++ |
| 22:53 |
|
eythian |
dcook: that video was pretty great |
| 22:53 |
|
dcook |
Oh wow there's more after the song |
| 22:54 |
|
pianohacker |
ahh I'd forgotten how good this medicine remix was, the original is way too downtempo |
| 23:00 |
|
|
papa joined #koha |
| 23:16 |
|
pianohacker |
wtf is going on with babymetal |
| 23:16 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
I love/hate that moment when you finally figure out the reason your program isn't working the way you think it should be working... |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
...is because you forget to mod the index again after your initial test. |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
Err, indexing config rather.. |
| 23:17 |
|
* dcook |
glares at the commented out 035 in records.abs |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
record.abs* |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker: So what is the deal there? I haven't brought myself to reading about it yet |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
Partially, I'm not sure if I actually do want to know... |
| 23:17 |
|
pianohacker |
... have you watched the video? |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
Nopes |
| 23:18 |
|
pianohacker |
dcook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88hU078nUQs |
| 23:18 |
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dcook |
I'm a little bit terrified |
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* dcook |
takes a deep breath and clicks |
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wizzyrea |
it's not as terrible as it seems like it should be |
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dcook |
wth... |
| 23:19 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: So true |
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dcook |
30 seconds in and I thought it would be much worse |
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pianohacker |
there's that moment just a bit in where it goes from "*yawn* j-pop..." to "METAL DANCING KAWAII OF DOOM" |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add Pianohacker: there's that moment just a bit in where it goes from "*yawn* j-pop..." to "METAL DANCING KAWAII OF DOOM" |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 23:20 |
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wizzyrea |
curses. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add Pianohacker: there's that moment just a bit in where it goes from "*yawn* j-pop..." to "METAL DANCING KAWAII OF DOOM" |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #300 added. |
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wizzyrea |
there we go. |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:21 |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: that hybrid video is interesting, I'm not sure what to think of that |
| 23:21 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the open, nothing is hidden so you can see what is going on at any time. [...] Koha grows through its strong and vibrant community, and the best users are the ones who invest the time in asking questions." (added by wizzyrea at 08:00 PM, April 14, 2011) |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:21 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #192: "sekjal: running on master is a great way to catch bugs... but then you have bugs." (added by wizzyrea at 04:02 PM, March 09, 2012) |
| 23:21 |
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rangi |
what a bunch of hippy drivel |
| 23:21 |
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rangi |
who wrote that |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
that guy, he's super idealistic. |
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pianohacker |
some silly sappy dude |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
it's awesome |
| 23:22 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #168: "gmcharlt: #koha is ALL the time" (added by chris_n at 09:01 PM, December 01, 2011) |
| 23:22 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 23:22 |
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pianohacker |
sort of dude who would welcome a shy 17-year-old into a coding community :) |
| 23:23 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: That's perhaps one of the worst videos I've seen in quite some time |
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wizzyrea |
get the popcorn |
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wahanui |
Get it yourself, wizzyrea. |
| 23:23 |
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wizzyrea |
<3 wahanui |
| 23:24 |
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dcook |
My brain actually hurts now |
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pianohacker |
dcook: Did you watch it all the way through? |
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pianohacker |
dcook++ # for bravery |
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dcook |
Unfortunately yes |
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dcook |
It's genius though. |
| 23:24 |
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dcook |
I bet they'll make a mint. |
| 23:25 |
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* dcook |
goes back to his meandering post-rock for a bit. |
| 23:25 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe not meandering... |
| 23:25 |
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dcook |
mellow |
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pianohacker |
Here, something a bit more trancey: https://soundcloud.com/blighte[…]at-justine-suissa |
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pianohacker |
prog house allegedly but whatever |
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dcook |
Current track: http://grooveshark.com/s/Blues+Hour/6HYABZ?src=5 |
| 23:26 |
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dcook |
Finally coming around to Rave Tapes |
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wizzyrea |
pianohacker: if you are not sensitive to strobe lighting, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]jdrTM8&feature=kp |
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pianohacker |
ah what a sell |
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wizzyrea |
well you don't have to watch I reckon |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: wait, is this the same orbital of halcyon (and on and on) fame? |
| 23:29 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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pianohacker |
cool! Thanks |
| 23:29 |
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wizzyrea |
the not-live version is probably on grooveshark somewhere |
| 23:30 |
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pianohacker |
omfg my keycaps are here brbbbbbbbbb |
| 23:30 |
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wizzyrea |
orbital took several years off, then came back with a really amazing album |
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dcook |
(Oh ElasticSearch...I yearn for you) |
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mtj |
@wunder sydney, australia |
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huginn |
mtj: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (10:00 AM EST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
Hmm, getting warmer |
| 23:40 |
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dcook |
Apparently my support emails are going to my junk mail as well. Nice one, Outlook. |
| 23:40 |
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dcook |
I was wondering why it was quiet.. |
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rangi |
you use outlook? |
| 23:41 |
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rangi |
poor you |
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dcook |
Yeah, our work machines are all Windows :/ |
| 23:42 |
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mtj |
some good friday scrollback peeps :p |
| 23:42 |
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dcook |
I suppose I could use Thunderbird although not sure what options there are for shared calendars.. |
| 23:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
has an easy way to fix that |
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wizzyrea |
start -> run -> cmd -> format c: -> insert linux cd -> reboot |
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wizzyrea |
</snark> |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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trea |
and yet still true |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I have a debian image and a blank dvd right there... |
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* wizzyrea |
whispers "do... it...." |
| 23:49 |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
It's not my computer so I can't really make that decision :p |
| 23:50 |
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dcook |
You know Microsoft sucks when you have to Google how to do everything.. |
| 23:51 |
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wizzyrea |
well technically that's one of the signs that you're a good engineer, that you know which book to look in when you don't know :P |
| 23:51 |
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wizzyrea |
but you're right! microsoft sucks! |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
true true |
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dcook |
engineer/doctor/lawyer/etc |
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dcook |
I was using MS Access 2010 or 2013 yesterday and it's help menu actually said something along the lines of "Don't use this option or you won't be able to do X" |
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dcook |
As in you couldn't access certain functionality by short-cuts, menus, etc. |
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dcook |
:S |
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dcook |
Also, Access...*shudder* |
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pianohacker |
The right hand has keycaps! https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcd[…]_1058212689_n.jpg |
| 23:57 |
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wizzyrea |
pianohacker: you and cjh should talk about this project. |
| 23:58 |
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pianohacker |
ooh, he a keyboard nerd too? (and is he coming to hackfest?) |
| 23:58 |
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wizzyrea |
ping cjh_ ^ see that link |
| 23:58 |
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wizzyrea |
apropos of your keyboard ... thing |
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dcook |
pianohacker: What is the project? I see bits and pieces here and there |
| 23:59 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: This is the right hand of a keyboard kit I've been slowly soldering and assembling |
