IRC log for #koha, 2014-03-07

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00:00 pianohacker
00:00 dcook Intriguing!
00:00 dcook Won't you miss your numberpad? :(
00:01 wajasu i think i found where we are hiding the biblio when an item is lost.
00:01 dcook Under the stairs?
00:01 pianohacker dcook: I have a mildly
00:01 pianohacker dcook: -chorded keyboard layout already
00:02 pianohacker Holding down the ' key gives me punctuation on the rest of the keyboard, and holding down the / key gives me a numpad on the right and arrow/movement keys on the right
00:02 cjh_ pianohacker: oh brilliant building a ergodox
00:02 dcook Mmmm, snazy
00:02 cjh_ pianohacker: I have a few keyboard projects, including a chording one. Spend all day typing on a kinesis advantage.
00:02 pianohacker cjh_: Yup, running into a few issues with tolerances between the PCB and laser cut case, but once a power sander fixes those this thing will be fantastic
00:03 cjh_ pianohacker:
00:03 cjh_ pianohacker: a few years ago I tried to build something quite similar to an ergodox, eventually just got a kinesis :D
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00:04 cjh_ wizzyrea: cheers :)
00:04 wizzyrea yeah yw :)
00:04 pianohacker The advantage is awesome... have one from a friend that I'm trying to bring back from the dead. It's what convinced me to go with the mx browns
00:04 wizzyrea I like putting like minded people together. :)
00:04 pianohacker and cool on the keyboard project!
00:04 pianohacker cjh_: happy typing
00:05 cjh_ pianohacker: all the wiring is done (, just need to find time to make the hand moulds. Best of luck with your ergodox :)
00:06 pianohacker thanks! :)
00:06 pianohacker same to you, that looks really cool. Have a "layout" in mind?
00:08 cjh_ pianohacker: that is the hardest part, esp. considering it is chording, I did a freq. analysis of all the code I have written over the last few years, as well as some english texts
00:09 cjh_ pianohacker: but it is hard to find a simple heuristic, so I think I am just going to 'try a few' and see what sticks.
00:10 pianohacker cjh_: sounds reasonable... will you have two hands, with just four keys on it?
00:10 cjh_ pianohacker: currently each hand has 1 key per finger and 2 for the thumb
00:10 pianohacker ahh kk
00:10 * wizzyrea just thinks this is awesome
00:10 dcook ^
00:11 cjh_ pianohacker: so there are lots of different permutations that optimise for different things, and I don't yet have enough info to pick just one :D
00:11 cjh_ project stalled a while ago though :3
00:12 pianohacker cjh_: Very cool. planning on a CNC case, laser cut layers, 3D printed?...
00:13 cjh_ pianohacker: was considering it, for now I am using a clay that hardens when heated to form the grips, eventually I could replace them with something more permanent.
00:13 cjh_ pianohacker: have you already wired your ergodox?
00:13 pianohacker cjh_: One hand... soldering all the SMD diodes and keyswitches by hand is pretty tedious
00:14 pianohacker distinct advantage of a chorder, you have waaaaay less soldering
00:14 cjh_ heh yeah that is what put me off the first project (the pre-ergodox-like), designing the pcb and wiring all the diodes (to get n-key rollover) was a PITA
00:14 cjh_ pianohacker: that was one of the motivators actually :D
00:15 cjh_ since I bought all the diodes, switches and keys for the first project I have enough to make many prototypes of my chorder (only uses 10 keys each time)
00:16 pianohacker you have any photos of your previous project, though?
00:19 cjh_ pianohacker: not sure sorry, I have a geekhack thread of it back when it was just a happy-hacker-like, but I don't think I documented it once it morphed.
00:21 pianohacker cjh_: fair nuff. Best of luck with your project
00:21 cjh_ pianohacker: happy soldering :)
00:21 pianohacker cjh_: thanks!
00:30 cjh_ beautiful https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcd[…]_1058212689_n.jpg
00:32 pianohacker cjh_: Glad you like it. The acrylic is shinier than the keycaps make it seem, my phone seems to think they're really bright :)
00:33 cjh_ heh, the nice glow around the white
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00:42 mtj hey cjh_ , where is the pic from?
00:43 mtj great info back there, too  everyone :p
00:43 pianohacker mtj: Right hand of my
00:43 pianohacker bye all
00:43 mtj woah, that looks pro
00:50 dcook Huh...never noticed that Koha creates a temporary table in
00:51 * eythian notes that Koha does a good job at not respecting the transfer matrix.
00:51 wizzyrea heh.
00:52 eythian (I'm running through it now finding the places where it asks you to do forbidden transfers.)
01:17 dcook eythian: Might you be so courteous as to remind a person of the command that shows a person where their program is bottlenecking?
01:17 dcook strace?
01:17 dcook Nvm. I think that's the one.
01:19 eythian totally depends on the context
01:19 dcook I figured that might help you to mention ;)
01:20 dcook I'm just working on an interactive Perl program that tries to link records with  773s to their parent record via biblionumber
01:20 eythian and it's being slow, or it's locking up, or...?
01:20 dcook Just being slow
01:20 dcook It uses the SimpleSearch and I think it's when it gets too many results back from Zebra
01:20 dcook I swear it was going faster a week ago though...
01:21 eythian NYTProf is helpful then
01:22 eythian search gets slow if you return records with many items
01:23 dcook Which is probably more likely when you have a higher number of results. Right-o.
01:26 eythian (don't get me wrong, there are other things that make it slow, that's one of them though.)
01:38 dcook Hmm, I think perhaps I might've just optimized my query...
01:39 * dcook claps to himself
01:39 dcook Still, I should learn to use NYTProf probably...
01:40 eythian it's really easy, and it's really helpful.
01:40 dcook Changed it so that it was searching for ((773$t) and (773$w or 773$x)), and now it's a million times faster..
01:40 dcook And the results are like I recall..
01:41 dcook eythian: If I understand the docs right, do you just initialize it when calling your script from the CLI and then read the output it gives afterward?
01:42 eythian it dumps a lot of files into /tmp/nytprof
01:42 eythian then you run nytprof2html and open the result in a browser.
01:44 dcook Oooh. That does sound handy.
01:44 dcook Now if only I can recall how to use CPAN locally..
02:02 eythian it's in debian
02:02 eythian though, you get an older version, but it's still quite functional, just missing some of the pretty graphs of the newer ones apparently.
02:04 dcook Alas, this server is openSuse :/
02:05 eythian ah
02:05 dcook I do have a debian vm sitting right their but it's performance would be utter crap by comparison
02:05 dcook Dang, this program is still taking a while, but at least it's considerably faster and has good results...
02:05 eythian yeah, it's best to test on something close to your production setup
02:05 dcook It is going through 30,000+ entries
02:06 dcook Doing about 30,000 searches
02:08 dcook I don't know if that is a lot but it sounds like a lot to me
02:08 dcook Zebra can take a pounding
02:08 eythian yeah, that's a fair few.
02:08 eythian zebra is pretty good from that point of view.
02:09 dcook I'm keen to try out ElasticSearch though
02:09 dcook Now that I think about it, ICA-AtoM uses ES, doesn't it?
02:10 dcook Maybe I was thinking Archivematica..
02:11 eythian AtoM does
02:12 eythian I'd like to see if it's possible to share an index.
02:12 eythian I don't know if that's hoping too much though
02:13 dcook That sounds like it could be rather handy
02:14 dcook Tough to manage though, I would think
02:14 eythian Maybe. There's the potential to have the Koha mapping flexible. On the other hand, they'll be coming from marc and atom's won't be.
02:15 dcook Hmm, took 34 minutes to run, but linked 25928 of 30768 records...
02:15 dcook (Without commiting those links to the DB though..)
02:17 dcook Now I'm trying to recall the purpose of integrating the two
02:17 eythian an archive system with circ
02:17 eythian (in a nutshell)
02:18 dcook Right..
02:18 dcook So catalogue in atom, circulation in koha
02:18 dcook ?
02:18 eythian yeah
02:29 eythian @wunder nzwn
02:29 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
02:33 dcook That sounds rather sweet
02:33 dcook It would be great if we could use lots of other tools for cataloguing/search, and then leverage Koha for circulation and patron management
02:34 dcook I figure there must be a better way for acquisitions and serials (although I don't know what at this stage)
02:40 wizzyrea I want to be outside in that.
02:42 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
02:42 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -14.8°C (9:42 PM EST on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
02:42 mtompset Freezing as usual. :(
02:49 wajasu mtompset: i think i got the lost item biblios not being hidden when all its items are lost, and the case where all items are hidden for a biblio, the biblio is hidden.  and the results counter correct, wiht auto redirect correct.
02:50 mtompset without complicating anything horribly? :)
02:50 mtompset I'd be more than willing to test anything you put up on the bug report. :)
02:50 wajasu yes.  what a pain to debug.  the tricky thing was that rebuild_zebra affected what was shown, and confused things.  also the avilability facet works.
02:51 wajasu which bug report should i attach it to?
02:52 mtompset I think you were doing this as a result of 11489, right?
02:52 wajasu thats what started me off.
02:52 mtompset So either a new one and put some sort of depends, or on there, I think.
02:53 mtompset I think on there would be better.
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02:53 wajasu i'll do a new one and mention the ones it obsoletes. in the comment.  then after you test ...
02:55 wajasu i'll try to put it up later after i get a bite.
02:57 wajasu its best to test with a small db because you have to rebuild_zebra after you change items to lost.
02:57 mtompset Can't test it tonight.
02:57 mtompset I'm trying to fix up bug 8000
02:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, ASSIGNED , Test mode for notices
02:57 wizzyrea ooooo
02:58 mtompset Can't quite get my test file to work as expected.
02:58 wajasu cool
03:01 mtompset OH! C4::Context doesn't refresh!
03:23 mtompset YES! disable_syspref_cache for the win.
03:30 mtompset CURSES!
03:31 mtompset Ubuntu failed to generate the Results file correctly.
03:31 mtompset I forgot about that.
04:08 mtompset I am pretty sure I asked before, but I don't think I remember the answer or how to do it... how do I test a generated Schema file?
04:22 mtompset wizzyrea: Care to give 8000 a whirl?
04:55 bag this sounds pretty awesome[…]medium=socialflow
04:55 bag sorry for the long URL :P
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05:19 mtompset bag: Yes it does. Too bad I can't have it.
05:19 mtompset Well, crazy driving to do later today. I better sleep.
05:20 mtompset Have a great day, #koha bag dac wajasu.
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07:16 * magnuse waves
07:16 dcook heya
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07:18 magnuse hiya dcook
07:18 magnuse time to call it a week?
07:18 dcook Past time :)
07:18 dcook Helping some friends out with their Koha back in Canada
07:19 dcook Plus, I was working on this interactive Perl script that I hope will be useful..
07:19 dcook At the moment, the goal is to use the 773$t to find the parent record, record its biblionumber, and then add it to the 773's $0 :)
07:20 dcook But to do it, show the results on the screen for review, the user can link/unlink records manually, and then commit the whole mess to the DB
07:20 dcook Ideally, I want it to be somewhat generalizable so I can use it for other MARC data manipulation...
07:21 dcook So far, it can automatically link 27,000 out of 30,000 records (in my current case)
07:21 dcook Beats doing it by hand :)
07:22 alex_a bonjour
07:24 dcook bonjour, alex_a :)
07:30 paxed when editing, there's no way to add a field to marc, if that field is not available in the framework?
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07:31 paxed (our cataloguers want a framework with all fields in single tab, but only few fields available by default, the rest they should be able to add manually)
07:32 reiveune hello
07:32 wahanui kai ora, reiveune
07:34 dcook paxed: They should look forward to the Rancor editor then
07:35 dcook It's Friday and it's late. I'm out.
07:35 dcook Good Friday/weekend all :)
07:35 * dcook almost wrote "exit"
07:50 reiveune reboot needed
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07:53 reiveune re-hello
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07:59 cait good morning #koha
08:02 magnuse kia ora cait and #koha!
08:02 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 4.4°C (9:02 AM CET on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:02 magnuse @wunder boo
08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
08:02 magnuse hah!
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08:03 cait magnuse: getting closer? :)
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08:03 magnuse yup
08:03 Joubu hello
08:04 cait good morning Joubu
08:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
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08:13 petter good morning, koha
08:14 cait morning petter :)
08:15 petter morning cait:)
08:15 magnuse kia ora petter!
08:16 petter mornings magnus!
08:16 magnuse :-)
08:19 petter Anyone running Koha  against master?
08:19 petter I suddenly got the dreaded  Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/local/src/kohaclone/C4/
08:19 petter when doing search
08:20 petter Seems like koha get's something it doesn expect from zebra
08:20 petter or doesnt get anything
08:20 cait hm if you run against master
08:20 cait have you recreated your index files?
08:20 petter yes
08:20 cait also it might be you need a newer version of something
08:20 petter 10 times allready!
08:20 cait just checking ;)
08:20 cait i forget that all the time
08:20 petter yea, could be something simple
08:21 cait there has been zebra patches being pushed
08:21 petter But I spent almost all day yesterday trying to fix it
08:21 magnuse does it happen for all searches?
08:21 petter yes
08:21 cait 11096
08:21 petter unless there is no results
08:21 cait does a rebuild give you a useful error?
08:21 magnuse bug 11096
08:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
08:21 cait you are running NORMARC right?
08:21 petter yes, normarc
08:21 cait i hope not that we missed something related to normarc
08:22 cait petter: could you try a git bisect?
08:22 petter the error is the one I gave above: Can't call method "raw" ...
08:22 cait or simpler, jump back a few commits before the bug was pushed and check if it still appears
08:22 magnuse i just did a search on my dev setup (Koha 3.1500019) and did not get an error
08:23 cait oh search in cataloguing, staff search or opac?
08:23 petter I'll try jump back a few commits,  brb
08:23 petter cait: both staff & opac
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08:24 magnuse petter: is there a line number for
08:24 petter line 495.
08:25 petter hm, jumping back in time fixed it!
08:26 magnuse how far back?
08:26 petter Im now at 63d7386ed00f73be837a57aeb12d75c6893ca0bd
08:26 petter I'll try to pinpoint the exact commit which breaks it, hang on
08:27 petter might be we have some local changes merged in..
08:27 magnuse Bug 10647 is an easy signoff, btw ;-)
08:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10647 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC
08:33 petter daf2ebc Bug 11096: support the retrieval of large MARCXML records
08:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
08:33 petter This is the one which breaks search for me
08:33 petter Magnus - have you got it to work with Normarc?
08:35 magnuse yeah, my dev install is normarc and master
08:35 petter strange
08:36 petter Did you re-index & restart zebra?
08:36 magnuse still good after a full zebra rebuild
08:36 magnuse i'll stop and start now
08:37 petter ok, thanks
08:38 magnuse stopped, started and rebuilt - still ok
08:39 petter hm ok
08:39 petter So something is different in my dev-box
08:39 petter what can it be
08:39 petter ?
08:40 petter Is there a way to get more debug details from zebra & koha?
08:40 cait could it be an outdated perl module?
08:40 cait still a bit too early to ask gmcharlt
08:41 magnuse "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instancename>" does not give any hints?
08:42 magnuse there is a debug thing for koha, but i never remember how to do it
08:42 petter No, re-indexing goes fine, without any errors
08:43 petter And I check the files are created
08:43 cait hmm
08:43 cait could you compare your verseions of MARC::Record?
08:43 magnuse and zebra is running?
08:43 petter I mean, since search works when I just remove that commit
08:43 magnuse ah yes, true
08:43 petter it must be somethig else
08:43 petter My version of Marc::Record is 2.0.5
08:45 cait magnuse:?
08:45 magnuse i wonder if talking to zebra through yaz-client might turn up anything?
08:45 cait also
08:46 cait running the test suite might
08:46 cait petter: maybe try prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t
08:46 magnuse i have MARC::Record = 2.0.6
08:46 cait and updating MARC::Record
08:46 petter ok, will do!
08:47 cait ah and also checking if there is a differnce in your 2 installatoins - dom vs. grs1
08:48 petter So do I need to seed my db to run the db_depentent tests??
08:48 cait hm i think those shoudl run ok without having to have special data
08:48 petter OK, I get several errors
08:48 cait some still don't, but we got better at that :)
08:48 cait can you paste? tcohen is not around yet and so is gmcharlt... if we can't solve it might be worth waiting for them
08:49 magnuse i have <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
08:49 magnuse <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode>
08:49 magnuse paste?
08:49 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty!
08:51 pastebot "petter" at pasted "prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (259 lines) at
08:51 petter wow, fancy!
08:51 petter I'll try update Marc::Record now
08:53 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "my outout from prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (774 lines) at
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08:57 * cait keeps fingers crossed
08:59 * magnuse too
09:02 petter So updating Marc::Record didnt help, but I had zebra_bib_index_mode set to grs1
09:02 petter I changed it to dom
09:02 petter And now  I get some zebra errors when indexing
09:02 petter or warnings
09:03 wahanui warnings are nothing to worry about.
09:03 magnuse yay, maybe!
09:03 petter ah, ok
09:03 petter hm?
09:03 petter [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]
09:03 petter [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
09:03 cait oh interesting
09:03 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:03 magnuse don't listen to wahanui, he/she is just a bot
09:03 petter haha:)
09:03 petter wahanui is kind of funny
09:03 cait sometimes.... and sometimes he is annoying :)
09:03 cait germs?
09:03 wahanui germs is
09:03 cait germs?
09:03 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
09:04 magnuse well, that is just a piece of historical truth
09:04 cait lol
09:04 magnuse 'caue eythian says so too!
09:04 petter truth?
09:04 wahanui rumour has it truth is i did a little bit already
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09:05 magnuse i can't find collection.abs either
09:06 magnuse and i get no errors either
09:06 magnuse weird
09:07 petter hm, now I dont get the error, but i dont get any results either
09:07 magnuse petter: do you get the warns on current master or when you have jumped back in time
09:07 petter Now Im at master again
09:08 petter latest & greatest
09:11 magnuse and get no warnings on rebuild zebra + no results?
09:12 magnuse petter: still "Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value"?
09:12 petter I get the 2 warnings I pasted above
09:12 magnuse ok
09:12 petter No, the Can't call method "raw" error is gone:)
09:12 petter So now the only problem is no results
09:13 petter Which is a slightly better problem :)
09:13 petter or worse
09:13 petter I dont know
09:13 magnuse yeah, it could be either :-)
09:13 petter Anyway, I hate Zebra more and more
09:14 petter that much is clear!
09:14 magnuse anything in the logs? /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log or zebra-error.log
09:15 magnuse good thing you will use very little of koha's search functionality, then! :-)
09:16 petter not much info in the logs
09:16 petter some warnings from zebra
09:16 petter 10:11:36-07/03 zebrasrv(9) [warn] ir_session (exception)
09:16 petter any idea what that means?
09:17 cait petter: i think zebra often proves not to be the problem so much as our code...
09:18 petter cait: yeah, integrations is the hard part
09:19 cait tcohen has been quite good at working thorugh those things it seems, so bit bad he is still sleeping now :)
09:21 magnuse weird that the error went away but still no records
09:22 magnuse petter: did you stopand start zebra and rebuild the index?
09:22 magnuse maybe try with yaz-client? there is a bit of description here:[…]t_with_yaz-client.3F
09:23 magnuse that should tell us if zebra is returning records and the error is on koha code, or if zebra is not returning anything
09:26 petter ok, how do I use the yaz-client?
09:26 petter nevermind, found it on the wiki
09:28 cait It's a good skill to learn
09:29 cait @later khall ping me when around? :)
09:29 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:29 cait @later tell khall ping me when around? :)
09:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
09:34 ashimema lol.. not noticed huggins 'error' reply before.. love it
09:35 magnuse hehe
09:50 magnuse petter: any progress?
09:50 petter no, struggeling to set up z39
09:50 petter Do you have a example koha-conf.xml?
09:51 magnuse hm, i *think* you should be able to talk directly to zebra
09:51 magnuse lemme check
09:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/20/
09:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11503: fix several typos
09:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11503: [Follow-up] fix another typo
09:51 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11509: (trivial rmaint followup) wrong parameter count
09:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11503 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Several typos
09:51 petter at what adress?
09:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11509 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-create should print better usage information
09:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #21 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
09:53 magnuse petter: i *think* this should work:
09:53 magnuse $ yaz-client unix:/var/run/koha/kohadev/bibliosocket
09:53 magnuse the address is from koha-conf.xml
09:53 magnuse <listen id="biblioserver" >unix:/var/run/koha/kohadev/bibliosocket</listen> at the top
09:54 petter aha, cool I didnt know there was a unix socket
09:54 magnuse but when i try i get "Database unavailable", i might be missing something
09:55 petter I can connect
09:55 petter So now I need to find out how to formulate a query in this obscure protocol
09:56 petter hm I get Database unavailable too
09:58 magnuse try:
09:58 magnuse Z> base biblios
09:58 magnuse then
09:58 magnuse Z> find <something>
09:59 magnuse where something should give results
10:00 petter I get: Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'any'
10:00 cait hm i think you have to give it the attribute
10:00 cait attr 1=4 or something
10:00 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "successfull yaz-client session" (22 lines) at
10:02 petter I give up, I never wanna see z39 again
10:02 magnuse did you do "base biblios"?
10:05 * magnuse would not be sad if z39.50 and all its minions disappeared from the face of the earth at this moment
10:07 magnuse petter: did you do "base biblios"?
10:07 petter yes
10:10 petter OK, I've solved it by rebuilding my dev-box
10:10 petter So I never found out what was the problem
10:10 petter but it works now
10:10 cait oh
10:10 petter Im at master head and no errors
10:11 petter Must have been something in my configs
10:15 petter Thanks for your help, cait & magnus!
10:15 petter I learned a lot of troubleshooting techniques after all:)
10:15 cait :)
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10:33 magnuse petter: i guess if it works now, that would indicate a problem with your data, not the code as such
10:51 petter magnus: data as in marc-records?
11:05 magnuse either the records or the settings or...
11:06 petter yea, I think some settings probably
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11:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/21/
11:45 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11381: improve styling of IDreamBooks content in bootstrap theme
11:45 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager
11:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11381 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , IDreamBooks too close to title on bootstrap
11:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11505 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager
11:45 cait ashimema++
11:46 ashimema ;)
12:02 cait Joubu: i am looking for the batch bibliographic record edit bug... but can't find it - do you happen to have the bug number maybe?
12:08 Joubu cait: bug 11395?
12:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch modifications for records
12:08 cait aaah modifications
12:09 cait wrong search term - thx :)
12:09 Joubu cait: they are all linked to bug 8015
12:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates
12:09 cait ah, didn't see that
12:10 cait the screenshots look good
12:14 cait hi khall :)
12:14 cait is the baby there yet?
12:14 khall nope, not yet ; )
12:14 cait :)
12:23 magnuse oh wow, "Storm 25 m/s" wind at 06 tomorrow morning. "just" 14m/s when our plane is supposed to take off
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12:51 tcohen morning!
12:51 wahanui morning is a state of cat
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12:54 francharb good morning
12:55 tcohen gmcharlt: what OS runs the 3.14.x jenkins node?
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12:58 tcohen I cannot reproduce the Search.t failure on Ubuntu 13.10, about to test on 12.04
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13:15 tcohen_ @later tell mveron I'm puzzled
13:15 huginn tcohen_: The operation succeeded.
13:16 tcohen_ about bug 11906
13:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11906 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Bad display of utf-8 chars in Patron lists (Datatable)
13:20 tcohen_ has anyone been able to reproduce it?
13:36 tcohen why aren't 'patron lists' included in "lists"?
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13:48 cait tcohen: i think the idea was a bit different... records and patrons
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14:08 tcohen cait: they are basically lists, of different stuff, but both lists
14:08 tcohen patron lists seem to be private
14:09 tcohen but we have that for record lists too
14:09 tcohen its an ergonomic question
14:12 tcohen s/question/matter/
14:15 cait tcohen: not argueing :)
14:16 rhcl @wunder 64507
14:16 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.6°C (8:16 AM CST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
14:19 druthb Wunder 77098
14:19 druthb @wunder 77098
14:19 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 11.7°C (8:19 AM CST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
14:19 * druthb can't type today.  Haz the dumb.
14:29 magnuse public lists of patrons would be... interesting ;-)
14:31 rhcl problematic, I'd think
14:31 magnuse :-)
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14:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:49 mtompset Bonjour, francharb. :)
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15:23 tcohen oleonard?
15:23 wahanui oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did!
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15:24 francharb Morning mtompset
15:24 rhcl @seen oleonard
15:24 huginn rhcl: oleonard was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <oleonard> No more hdl, libsysguy, sekjal...
15:24 rhcl no more oleonard...
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15:25 AmitG hi
15:25 AmitG all
15:25 AmitG heya alex_a
15:25 rhcl hi AmitG
15:25 AmitG hi rhcl
15:26 tcohen rhcl: hope not
15:26 rhcl -jk
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15:50 AmitG alex_a around
15:52 alex_a AmitG: \o
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16:23 mtompset Need more underscores! ;)
16:24 mtompset Right, tcohen, tcohen_ Callender__? ;)
16:30 tcohen_ hmm, i've just left the IRC open at work
16:32 mtompset Ah, that's the excuse. ;)
16:38 tcohen_ question: hash indexes are case sensitive, right?
16:38 jcamins Indeed.
16:40 tcohen_ t/db_dependent/Biblio.t has a bug then :-P
16:41 tcohen_ i'm rewriting it anyway
16:42 tcohen_ jcamins: what is the unimarc title field?
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16:43 jcamins tcohen_: something weird... but I don't remember what.
16:44 jcamins 200
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17:24 tcohen there we go
17:24 tcohen unimarc-ers around?
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18:18 mtompset I'm not a unimarc'r, but I have a unimarc test system. ;)
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19:40 wajasu mtompset: let me know if bug 11909 works for you.  search is a twisty little maze of passages.
19:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11909 major, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Fix hidelostitems, OpacHiddenItems total count, prog them facet display
20:01 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, wajasu. I'll take a look.
20:02 wajasu just remember that if you change a status to lost, to rebuild_zebra before that facets availability will filter.
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20:43 mtompset wajasu: Did you do this on search results of 3+ pages?
20:43 wajasu no. can you?
20:44 mtompset Ah... that why you think this solves it. ;)
20:44 mtompset I'm just eyeballing. So I'll confirm my suspicions.
20:45 wajasu i could ad some more biblios and change the resluts per page from 20 to 3.
20:45 wajasu be suspicious :)
20:53 mtompset There is also a resultset size system preference.
20:54 mtompset ARG! I hate finding other problems while reading code. It's so distracting.
20:54 mtompset There's a mysql-ism in C4/Search (like no surprise).
20:55 wajasu what line
20:55 wahanui line is */10 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -b -a -z >/dev/null
20:56 mtompset forget line, wahanui.
20:56 wahanui mtompset: I forgot line
20:56 mtompset 1685.
20:56 mtompset ARG!. No time left.
20:56 mtompset Chauffeur hat needs to go on shortly.
20:57 wajasu ok. i'm going to try to test some other stuff.
20:58 mtompset I'll be back in about 6 hours or so.
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21:02 wajasu no problem.
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22:28 francharb bye all
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