Time Nick Message 00:00 pianohacker http://ergodox.org/ 00:00 dcook Intriguing! 00:00 dcook Won't you miss your numberpad? :( 00:01 wajasu i think i found where we are hiding the biblio when an item is lost. 00:01 dcook Under the stairs? 00:01 pianohacker dcook: I have a mildly 00:01 pianohacker dcook: -chorded keyboard layout already 00:02 pianohacker Holding down the ' key gives me punctuation on the rest of the keyboard, and holding down the / key gives me a numpad on the right and arrow/movement keys on the right 00:02 cjh_ pianohacker: oh brilliant building a ergodox 00:02 dcook Mmmm, snazy 00:02 cjh_ pianohacker: I have a few keyboard projects, including a chording one. Spend all day typing on a kinesis advantage. 00:02 pianohacker cjh_: Yup, running into a few issues with tolerances between the PCB and laser cut case, but once a power sander fixes those this thing will be fantastic 00:03 cjh_ pianohacker: http://i.imgur.com/vMNTE33.jpg 00:03 cjh_ pianohacker: a few years ago I tried to build something quite similar to an ergodox, eventually just got a kinesis :D 00:04 cjh_ wizzyrea: cheers :) 00:04 wizzyrea yeah yw :) 00:04 pianohacker The advantage is awesome... have one from a friend that I'm trying to bring back from the dead. It's what convinced me to go with the mx browns 00:04 wizzyrea I like putting like minded people together. :) 00:04 pianohacker and cool on the keyboard project! 00:04 pianohacker cjh_: happy typing 00:05 cjh_ pianohacker: all the wiring is done (http://i.imgur.com/zQiYmQC.jpg), just need to find time to make the hand moulds. Best of luck with your ergodox :) 00:06 pianohacker thanks! :) 00:06 pianohacker same to you, that looks really cool. Have a "layout" in mind? 00:08 cjh_ pianohacker: that is the hardest part, esp. considering it is chording, I did a freq. analysis of all the code I have written over the last few years, as well as some english texts 00:09 cjh_ pianohacker: but it is hard to find a simple heuristic, so I think I am just going to 'try a few' and see what sticks. 00:10 pianohacker cjh_: sounds reasonable... will you have two hands, with just four keys on it? 00:10 cjh_ pianohacker: currently each hand has 1 key per finger and 2 for the thumb 00:10 pianohacker ahh kk 00:10 * wizzyrea just thinks this is awesome 00:10 dcook ^ 00:11 cjh_ pianohacker: so there are lots of different permutations that optimise for different things, and I don't yet have enough info to pick just one :D 00:11 cjh_ project stalled a while ago though :3 00:12 pianohacker cjh_: Very cool. planning on a CNC case, laser cut layers, 3D printed?... 00:13 cjh_ pianohacker: was considering it, for now I am using a clay that hardens when heated to form the grips, eventually I could replace them with something more permanent. 00:13 cjh_ pianohacker: have you already wired your ergodox? 00:13 pianohacker cjh_: One hand... soldering all the SMD diodes and keyswitches by hand is pretty tedious 00:14 pianohacker distinct advantage of a chorder, you have waaaaay less soldering 00:14 cjh_ heh yeah that is what put me off the first project (the pre-ergodox-like), designing the pcb and wiring all the diodes (to get n-key rollover) was a PITA 00:14 cjh_ pianohacker: that was one of the motivators actually :D 00:15 cjh_ since I bought all the diodes, switches and keys for the first project I have enough to make many prototypes of my chorder (only uses 10 keys each time) 00:16 pianohacker you have any photos of your previous project, though? 00:19 cjh_ pianohacker: not sure sorry, I have a geekhack thread of it back when it was just a happy-hacker-like, but I don't think I documented it once it morphed. 00:21 pianohacker cjh_: fair nuff. Best of luck with your project 00:21 cjh_ pianohacker: happy soldering :) 00:21 pianohacker cjh_: thanks! 00:30 cjh_ beautiful https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1898192_10152298256073698_1058212689_n.jpg 00:32 pianohacker cjh_: Glad you like it. The acrylic is shinier than the keycaps make it seem, my phone seems to think they're really bright :) 00:33 cjh_ heh, the nice glow around the white 00:42 mtj hey cjh_ , where is the pic from? 00:43 mtj great info back there, too everyone :p 00:43 pianohacker mtj: Right hand of my http://ergodox.org/ 00:43 pianohacker bye all 00:43 mtj woah, that looks pro 00:50 dcook Huh...never noticed that Koha creates a temporary table in clones-rules.pl 00:51 * eythian notes that Koha does a good job at not respecting the transfer matrix. 00:51 wizzyrea heh. 00:52 eythian (I'm running through it now finding the places where it asks you to do forbidden transfers.) 01:17 dcook eythian: Might you be so courteous as to remind a person of the command that shows a person where their program is bottlenecking? 01:17 dcook strace? 01:17 dcook Nvm. I think that's the one. 01:19 eythian totally depends on the context 01:19 dcook I figured that might help you to mention ;) 01:20 dcook I'm just working on an interactive Perl program that tries to link records with 773s to their parent record via biblionumber 01:20 eythian and it's being slow, or it's locking up, or...? 01:20 dcook Just being slow 01:20 dcook It uses the SimpleSearch and I think it's when it gets too many results back from Zebra 01:20 dcook I swear it was going faster a week ago though... 01:21 eythian NYTProf is helpful then 01:22 eythian search gets slow if you return records with many items 01:23 dcook Which is probably more likely when you have a higher number of results. Right-o. 01:26 eythian (don't get me wrong, there are other things that make it slow, that's one of them though.) 01:38 dcook Hmm, I think perhaps I might've just optimized my query... 01:39 * dcook claps to himself 01:39 dcook Still, I should learn to use NYTProf probably... 01:40 eythian it's really easy, and it's really helpful. 01:40 dcook Changed it so that it was searching for ((773$t) and (773$w or 773$x)), and now it's a million times faster.. 01:40 dcook And the results are like I recall.. 01:41 dcook eythian: If I understand the docs right, do you just initialize it when calling your script from the CLI and then read the output it gives afterward? 01:42 eythian it dumps a lot of files into /tmp/nytprof 01:42 eythian then you run nytprof2html and open the result in a browser. 01:44 dcook Oooh. That does sound handy. 01:44 dcook Now if only I can recall how to use CPAN locally.. 02:02 eythian it's in debian 02:02 eythian though, you get an older version, but it's still quite functional, just missing some of the pretty graphs of the newer ones apparently. 02:04 dcook Alas, this server is openSuse :/ 02:05 eythian ah 02:05 dcook I do have a debian vm sitting right their but it's performance would be utter crap by comparison 02:05 dcook Dang, this program is still taking a while, but at least it's considerably faster and has good results... 02:05 eythian yeah, it's best to test on something close to your production setup 02:05 dcook It is going through 30,000+ entries 02:06 dcook Doing about 30,000 searches 02:08 dcook I don't know if that is a lot but it sounds like a lot to me 02:08 dcook Zebra can take a pounding 02:08 eythian yeah, that's a fair few. 02:08 eythian zebra is pretty good from that point of view. 02:09 dcook I'm keen to try out ElasticSearch though 02:09 dcook Now that I think about it, ICA-AtoM uses ES, doesn't it? 02:10 dcook Maybe I was thinking Archivematica.. 02:11 eythian AtoM does 02:12 eythian I'd like to see if it's possible to share an index. 02:12 eythian I don't know if that's hoping too much though 02:13 dcook That sounds like it could be rather handy 02:14 dcook Tough to manage though, I would think 02:14 eythian Maybe. There's the potential to have the Koha mapping flexible. On the other hand, they'll be coming from marc and atom's won't be. 02:15 dcook Hmm, took 34 minutes to run, but linked 25928 of 30768 records... 02:15 dcook (Without commiting those links to the DB though..) 02:17 dcook Now I'm trying to recall the purpose of integrating the two 02:17 eythian an archive system with circ 02:17 eythian (in a nutshell) 02:18 dcook Right.. 02:18 dcook So catalogue in atom, circulation in koha 02:18 dcook ? 02:18 eythian yeah 02:29 eythian @wunder nzwn 02:29 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 02:33 dcook That sounds rather sweet 02:33 dcook It would be great if we could use lots of other tools for cataloguing/search, and then leverage Koha for circulation and patron management 02:34 dcook I figure there must be a better way for acquisitions and serials (although I don't know what at this stage) 02:40 wizzyrea I want to be outside in that. 02:42 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5 02:42 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -14.8°C (9:42 PM EST on March 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Falling). 02:42 mtompset Freezing as usual. :( 02:49 wajasu mtompset: i think i got the lost item biblios not being hidden when all its items are lost, and the case where all items are hidden for a biblio, the biblio is hidden. and the results counter correct, wiht auto redirect correct. 02:50 mtompset without complicating anything horribly? :) 02:50 mtompset I'd be more than willing to test anything you put up on the bug report. :) 02:50 wajasu yes. what a pain to debug. the tricky thing was that rebuild_zebra affected what was shown, and confused things. also the avilability facet works. 02:51 wajasu which bug report should i attach it to? 02:52 mtompset I think you were doing this as a result of 11489, right? 02:52 wajasu thats what started me off. 02:52 mtompset So either a new one and put some sort of depends, or on there, I think. 02:53 mtompset I think on there would be better. 02:53 wajasu i'll do a new one and mention the ones it obsoletes. in the comment. then after you test ... 02:55 wajasu i'll try to put it up later after i get a bite. 02:57 wajasu its best to test with a small db because you have to rebuild_zebra after you change items to lost. 02:57 mtompset Can't test it tonight. 02:57 mtompset I'm trying to fix up bug 8000 02:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, ASSIGNED , Test mode for notices 02:57 wizzyrea ooooo 02:58 mtompset Can't quite get my test file to work as expected. 02:58 wajasu cool 03:01 mtompset OH! C4::Context doesn't refresh! 03:23 mtompset YES! disable_syspref_cache for the win. 03:30 mtompset CURSES! 03:31 mtompset Ubuntu failed to generate the Results file correctly. 03:31 mtompset I forgot about that. 04:08 mtompset I am pretty sure I asked before, but I don't think I remember the answer or how to do it... how do I test a generated Schema file? 04:22 mtompset wizzyrea: Care to give 8000 a whirl? 04:55 bag this sounds pretty awesome http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-best-dessert-ever-is-a-shot-of-milk-inside-a-glass-1537353551?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow 04:55 bag sorry for the long URL :P 05:19 mtompset bag: Yes it does. Too bad I can't have it. 05:19 mtompset Well, crazy driving to do later today. I better sleep. 05:20 mtompset Have a great day, #koha bag dac wajasu. 07:16 * magnuse waves 07:16 dcook heya 07:18 magnuse hiya dcook 07:18 magnuse time to call it a week? 07:18 dcook Past time :) 07:18 dcook Helping some friends out with their Koha back in Canada 07:19 dcook Plus, I was working on this interactive Perl script that I hope will be useful.. 07:19 dcook At the moment, the goal is to use the 773$t to find the parent record, record its biblionumber, and then add it to the 773's $0 :) 07:20 dcook But to do it, show the results on the screen for review, the user can link/unlink records manually, and then commit the whole mess to the DB 07:20 dcook Ideally, I want it to be somewhat generalizable so I can use it for other MARC data manipulation... 07:21 dcook So far, it can automatically link 27,000 out of 30,000 records (in my current case) 07:21 dcook Beats doing it by hand :) 07:22 alex_a bonjour 07:24 dcook bonjour, alex_a :) 07:30 paxed when editing, there's no way to add a field to marc, if that field is not available in the framework? 07:31 paxed (our cataloguers want a framework with all fields in single tab, but only few fields available by default, the rest they should be able to add manually) 07:32 reiveune hello 07:32 wahanui kai ora, reiveune 07:34 dcook paxed: They should look forward to the Rancor editor then 07:35 dcook It's Friday and it's late. I'm out. 07:35 dcook Good Friday/weekend all :) 07:35 * dcook almost wrote "exit" 07:50 reiveune reboot needed 07:53 reiveune re-hello 07:59 cait good morning #koha 08:02 magnuse kia ora cait and #koha! 08:02 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 4.4°C (9:02 AM CET on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:02 magnuse @wunder boo 08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 08:02 magnuse hah! 08:03 cait magnuse: getting closer? :) 08:03 magnuse yup 08:03 Joubu hello 08:04 cait good morning Joubu 08:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 08:13 petter good morning, koha 08:14 cait morning petter :) 08:15 petter morning cait:) 08:15 magnuse kia ora petter! 08:16 petter mornings magnus! 08:16 magnuse :-) 08:19 petter Anyone running Koha against master? 08:19 petter I suddenly got the dreaded Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/local/src/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm 08:19 petter when doing search 08:20 petter Seems like koha get's something it doesn expect from zebra 08:20 petter or doesnt get anything 08:20 cait hm if you run against master 08:20 cait have you recreated your index files? 08:20 petter yes 08:20 cait also it might be you need a newer version of something 08:20 petter 10 times allready! 08:20 cait just checking ;) 08:20 cait i forget that all the time 08:20 petter yea, could be something simple 08:21 cait there has been zebra patches being pushed 08:21 petter But I spent almost all day yesterday trying to fix it 08:21 magnuse does it happen for all searches? 08:21 petter yes 08:21 cait 11096 08:21 petter unless there is no results 08:21 cait does a rebuild give you a useful error? 08:21 magnuse bug 11096 08:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra 08:21 cait you are running NORMARC right? 08:21 petter yes, normarc 08:21 cait i hope not that we missed something related to normarc 08:22 cait petter: could you try a git bisect? 08:22 petter the error is the one I gave above: Can't call method "raw" ... 08:22 cait or simpler, jump back a few commits before the bug was pushed and check if it still appears 08:22 magnuse i just did a search on my dev setup (Koha 3.1500019) and did not get an error 08:23 cait oh search in cataloguing, staff search or opac? 08:23 petter I'll try jump back a few commits, brb 08:23 petter cait: both staff & opac 08:24 magnuse petter: is there a line number for Search.pm? 08:24 petter line 495. 08:25 petter hm, jumping back in time fixed it! 08:26 magnuse how far back? 08:26 petter Im now at 63d7386ed00f73be837a57aeb12d75c6893ca0bd 08:26 petter I'll try to pinpoint the exact commit which breaks it, hang on 08:27 petter might be we have some local changes merged in.. 08:27 magnuse Bug 10647 is an easy signoff, btw ;-) 08:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10647 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC 08:33 petter daf2ebc Bug 11096: support the retrieval of large MARCXML records 08:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra 08:33 petter This is the one which breaks search for me 08:33 petter Magnus - have you got it to work with Normarc? 08:35 magnuse yeah, my dev install is normarc and master 08:35 petter strange 08:36 petter Did you re-index & restart zebra? 08:36 magnuse still good after a full zebra rebuild 08:36 magnuse i'll stop and start now 08:37 petter ok, thanks 08:38 magnuse stopped, started and rebuilt - still ok 08:39 petter hm ok 08:39 petter So something is different in my dev-box 08:39 petter what can it be 08:39 petter ? 08:40 petter Is there a way to get more debug details from zebra & koha? 08:40 cait could it be an outdated perl module? 08:40 cait still a bit too early to ask gmcharlt 08:41 magnuse "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instancename>" does not give any hints? 08:42 magnuse there is a debug thing for koha, but i never remember how to do it 08:42 petter No, re-indexing goes fine, without any errors 08:43 petter And I check the files are created 08:43 cait hmm 08:43 cait could you compare your verseions of MARC::Record? 08:43 magnuse and zebra is running? 08:43 petter I mean, since search works when I just remove that commit 08:43 magnuse ah yes, true 08:43 petter it must be somethig else 08:43 petter My version of Marc::Record is 2.0.5 08:45 cait magnuse:? 08:45 magnuse i wonder if talking to zebra through yaz-client might turn up anything? 08:45 cait also 08:46 cait running the test suite might 08:46 cait petter: maybe try prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t 08:46 magnuse i have MARC::Record = 2.0.6 08:46 cait and updating MARC::Record 08:46 petter ok, will do! 08:47 cait ah and also checking if there is a differnce in your 2 installatoins - dom vs. grs1 08:48 petter So do I need to seed my db to run the db_depentent tests?? 08:48 cait hm i think those shoudl run ok without having to have special data 08:48 petter OK, I get several errors 08:48 cait some still don't, but we got better at that :) 08:48 cait can you paste? tcohen is not around yet and so is gmcharlt... if we can't solve it might be worth waiting for them 08:49 magnuse i have <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> 08:49 magnuse <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode> 08:49 magnuse paste? 08:49 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org 08:51 pastebot "petter" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (259 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148 08:51 petter wow, fancy! 08:51 petter I'll try update Marc::Record now 08:53 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my outout from prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (774 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150 08:57 * cait keeps fingers crossed 08:59 * magnuse too 09:02 petter So updating Marc::Record didnt help, but I had zebra_bib_index_mode set to grs1 09:02 petter I changed it to dom 09:02 petter And now I get some zebra errors when indexing 09:02 petter or warnings 09:03 wahanui warnings are nothing to worry about. 09:03 magnuse yay, maybe! 09:03 petter ah, ok 09:03 petter hm? 09:03 petter [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory] 09:03 petter [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) 09:03 cait oh interesting 09:03 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:03 magnuse don't listen to wahanui, he/she is just a bot 09:03 petter haha:) 09:03 petter wahanui is kind of funny 09:03 cait sometimes.... and sometimes he is annoying :) 09:03 cait germs? 09:03 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 09:03 cait germs? 09:03 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 09:04 magnuse well, that is just a piece of historical truth 09:04 cait lol 09:04 magnuse 'caue eythian says so too! 09:04 petter truth? 09:04 wahanui rumour has it truth is i did a little bit already 09:05 magnuse i can't find collection.abs either 09:06 magnuse and i get no errors either 09:06 magnuse weird 09:07 petter hm, now I dont get the error, but i dont get any results either 09:07 magnuse petter: do you get the warns on current master or when you have jumped back in time 09:07 petter Now Im at master again 09:08 petter latest & greatest 09:11 magnuse and get no warnings on rebuild zebra + no results? 09:12 magnuse petter: still "Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value"? 09:12 petter I get the 2 warnings I pasted above 09:12 magnuse ok 09:12 petter No, the Can't call method "raw" error is gone:) 09:12 petter So now the only problem is no results 09:13 petter Which is a slightly better problem :) 09:13 petter or worse 09:13 petter I dont know 09:13 magnuse yeah, it could be either :-) 09:13 petter Anyway, I hate Zebra more and more 09:14 petter that much is clear! 09:14 magnuse anything in the logs? /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log or zebra-error.log 09:15 magnuse good thing you will use very little of koha's search functionality, then! :-) 09:16 petter not much info in the logs 09:16 petter some warnings from zebra 09:16 petter 10:11:36-07/03 zebrasrv(9) [warn] ir_session (exception) 09:16 petter any idea what that means? 09:17 cait petter: i think zebra often proves not to be the problem so much as our code... 09:18 petter cait: yeah, integrations is the hard part 09:19 cait tcohen has been quite good at working thorugh those things it seems, so bit bad he is still sleeping now :) 09:21 magnuse weird that the error went away but still no records 09:22 magnuse petter: did you stopand start zebra and rebuild the index? 09:22 magnuse maybe try with yaz-client? there is a bit of description here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server#Can_you_connect_with_yaz-client.3F 09:23 magnuse that should tell us if zebra is returning records and the error is on koha code, or if zebra is not returning anything 09:26 petter ok, how do I use the yaz-client? 09:26 petter nevermind, found it on the wiki 09:28 cait It's a good skill to learn 09:29 cait @later khall ping me when around? :) 09:29 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 09:29 cait @later tell khall ping me when around? :) 09:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 09:34 ashimema lol.. not noticed huggins 'error' reply before.. love it 09:35 magnuse hehe 09:50 magnuse petter: any progress? 09:50 petter no, struggeling to set up z39 09:50 petter Do you have a example koha-conf.xml? 09:51 magnuse hm, i *think* you should be able to talk directly to zebra 09:51 magnuse lemme check 09:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/20/ 09:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11503: fix several typos 09:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11503: [Follow-up] fix another typo 09:51 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11509: (trivial rmaint followup) wrong parameter count 09:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11503 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Several typos 09:51 petter at what adress? 09:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11509 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-create should print better usage information 09:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #21 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 09:53 magnuse petter: i *think* this should work: 09:53 magnuse $ yaz-client unix:/var/run/koha/kohadev/bibliosocket 09:53 magnuse the address is from koha-conf.xml 09:53 magnuse <listen id="biblioserver" >unix:/var/run/koha/kohadev/bibliosocket</listen> at the top 09:54 petter aha, cool I didnt know there was a unix socket 09:54 magnuse but when i try i get "Database unavailable", i might be missing something 09:55 petter I can connect 09:55 petter So now I need to find out how to formulate a query in this obscure protocol 09:56 petter hm I get Database unavailable too 09:58 magnuse try: 09:58 magnuse Z> base biblios 09:58 magnuse then 09:58 magnuse Z> find <something> 09:59 magnuse where something should give results 10:00 petter I get: Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'any' 10:00 cait hm i think you have to give it the attribute 10:00 cait attr 1=4 or something 10:00 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "successfull yaz-client session" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/152 10:02 petter I give up, I never wanna see z39 again 10:02 magnuse did you do "base biblios"? 10:05 * magnuse would not be sad if z39.50 and all its minions disappeared from the face of the earth at this moment 10:07 magnuse petter: did you do "base biblios"? 10:07 petter yes 10:10 petter OK, I've solved it by rebuilding my dev-box 10:10 petter So I never found out what was the problem 10:10 petter but it works now 10:10 cait oh 10:10 petter Im at master head and no errors 10:11 petter Must have been something in my configs 10:15 petter Thanks for your help, cait & magnus! 10:15 petter I learned a lot of troubleshooting techniques after all:) 10:15 cait :) 10:33 magnuse petter: i guess if it works now, that would indicate a problem with your data, not the code as such 10:51 petter magnus: data as in marc-records? 11:05 magnuse either the records or the settings or... 11:06 petter yea, I think some settings probably 11:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/21/ 11:45 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11381: improve styling of IDreamBooks content in bootstrap theme 11:45 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager 11:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11381 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , IDreamBooks too close to title on bootstrap 11:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11505 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager 11:45 cait ashimema++ 11:46 ashimema ;) 12:02 cait Joubu: i am looking for the batch bibliographic record edit bug... but can't find it - do you happen to have the bug number maybe? 12:08 Joubu cait: bug 11395? 12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch modifications for records 12:08 cait aaah modifications 12:09 cait wrong search term - thx :) 12:09 Joubu cait: they are all linked to bug 8015 12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates 12:09 cait ah, didn't see that 12:10 cait the screenshots look good 12:14 cait hi khall :) 12:14 cait is the baby there yet? 12:14 khall nope, not yet ; ) 12:14 cait :) 12:23 magnuse oh wow, "Storm 25 m/s" wind at 06 tomorrow morning. "just" 14m/s when our plane is supposed to take off 12:51 tcohen morning! 12:51 wahanui morning is a state of cat 12:54 francharb good morning 12:55 tcohen gmcharlt: what OS runs the 3.14.x jenkins node? 12:58 tcohen I cannot reproduce the Search.t failure on Ubuntu 13.10, about to test on 12.04 13:15 tcohen_ @later tell mveron I'm puzzled http://snag.gy/gz3Q0.jpg 13:15 huginn tcohen_: The operation succeeded. 13:16 tcohen_ about bug 11906 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11906 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Bad display of utf-8 chars in Patron lists (Datatable) 13:20 tcohen_ has anyone been able to reproduce it? 13:36 tcohen why aren't 'patron lists' included in "lists"? 13:48 cait tcohen: i think the idea was a bit different... records and patrons 14:08 tcohen cait: they are basically lists, of different stuff, but both lists 14:08 tcohen patron lists seem to be private 14:09 tcohen but we have that for record lists too 14:09 tcohen its an ergonomic question 14:12 tcohen s/question/matter/ 14:15 cait tcohen: not argueing :) 14:16 rhcl @wunder 64507 14:16 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.6°C (8:16 AM CST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 14:19 druthb Wunder 77098 14:19 druthb @wunder 77098 14:19 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 11.7°C (8:19 AM CST on March 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 14:19 * druthb can't type today. Haz the dumb. 14:29 magnuse public lists of patrons would be... interesting ;-) 14:31 rhcl problematic, I'd think 14:31 magnuse :-) 14:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:49 mtompset Bonjour, francharb. :) 15:23 tcohen oleonard? 15:23 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 15:24 francharb Morning mtompset 15:24 rhcl @seen oleonard 15:24 huginn rhcl: oleonard was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <oleonard> No more hdl, libsysguy, sekjal... 15:24 rhcl no more oleonard... 15:25 AmitG hi 15:25 AmitG all 15:25 AmitG heya alex_a 15:25 rhcl hi AmitG 15:25 AmitG hi rhcl 15:26 tcohen rhcl: hope not 15:26 rhcl -jk 15:50 AmitG alex_a around 15:52 alex_a AmitG: \o 16:23 mtompset Need more underscores! ;) 16:24 mtompset Right, tcohen, tcohen_ Callender__? ;) 16:30 tcohen_ hmm, i've just left the IRC open at work 16:32 mtompset Ah, that's the excuse. ;) 16:38 tcohen_ question: hash indexes are case sensitive, right? 16:38 jcamins Indeed. 16:40 tcohen_ t/db_dependent/Biblio.t has a bug then :-P 16:41 tcohen_ i'm rewriting it anyway 16:42 tcohen_ jcamins: what is the unimarc title field? 16:43 jcamins tcohen_: something weird... but I don't remember what. 16:44 jcamins 200 17:24 tcohen there we go 17:24 tcohen unimarc-ers around? 18:18 mtompset I'm not a unimarc'r, but I have a unimarc test system. ;) 19:40 wajasu mtompset: let me know if bug 11909 works for you. search is a twisty little maze of passages. 19:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11909 major, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Fix hidelostitems, OpacHiddenItems total count, prog them facet display 20:01 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, wajasu. I'll take a look. 20:02 wajasu just remember that if you change a status to lost, to rebuild_zebra before that facets availability will filter. 20:43 mtompset wajasu: Did you do this on search results of 3+ pages? 20:43 wajasu no. can you? 20:44 mtompset Ah... that why you think this solves it. ;) 20:44 mtompset I'm just eyeballing. So I'll confirm my suspicions. 20:45 wajasu i could ad some more biblios and change the resluts per page from 20 to 3. 20:45 wajasu be suspicious :) 20:53 mtompset There is also a resultset size system preference. 20:54 mtompset ARG! I hate finding other problems while reading code. It's so distracting. 20:54 mtompset There's a mysql-ism in C4/Search (like no surprise). 20:55 wajasu what line 20:55 wahanui line is */10 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null 20:56 mtompset forget line, wahanui. 20:56 wahanui mtompset: I forgot line 20:56 mtompset 1685. 20:56 mtompset ARG!. No time left. 20:56 mtompset Chauffeur hat needs to go on shortly. 20:57 wajasu ok. i'm going to try to test some other stuff. 20:58 mtompset I'll be back in about 6 hours or so. 21:02 wajasu no problem. 22:28 francharb bye all