| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
? |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
http://www.google.com/webmaste[…]ools/richsnippets |
| 00:00 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
Cool, eh? |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
You'll need to try it on recent master. |
| 00:02 |
|
jcamins |
http://www.google.com/webmaste[…]lionumber%3D24433 |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Courtesy of master XSLTs? |
| 00:03 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Sweet |
| 00:03 |
|
rangi |
dcook: courtesy of dan scott |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
I would've killed for RDFa on some government sites a few months ago |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Well, maybe not killed... |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Good one, dan scott. Wherever you are! |
| 00:04 |
|
jcamins |
dbs++ |
| 00:04 |
|
rangi |
dcook: its dbs, in here :) |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
dbs++ |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
Progress is awesome |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:06 |
|
dcook |
Has that made it into a release or is just in master? |
| 00:06 |
|
rangi |
it will be in 3.14 |
| 00:07 |
|
rangi |
im not sure if it got picked back |
| 00:07 |
|
dcook |
bug 6594 |
| 00:07 |
|
rangi |
@query rdfa |
| 00:07 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata |
| 00:07 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata |
| 00:07 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 00:07 |
|
dcook |
Doesn't look like it, but that's pretty cool |
| 00:07 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I like your way better ;) |
| 00:44 |
|
jeff |
gmcharlt++ esi++ |
| 00:46 |
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| 00:54 |
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jcamins |
jeff: what did they do this time? |
| 00:56 |
|
jeff |
made a customer happy. :-) |
| 00:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
i hope that means he's gotten out his weed wacker and fought his way out of the weeds. |
| 00:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
whacker? |
| 00:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes. that. |
| 00:59 |
|
wahanui |
yes. that is probably what we are doing now. if we have more patrons then it becomes tough. |
| 01:00 |
|
eythian |
Wacken is a place in Germany with a huge annual metal festival. |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
suppose that gives a different meaning to weed wacken |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
Metal != Reggae |
| 01:01 |
|
* wizzyrea |
tries to remember what the chemical alteration substance of choice is for metalheads. |
| 01:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
beer? |
| 01:01 |
|
wahanui |
i guess beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy. |
| 01:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
that it is. |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I think it's beer |
| 01:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
beer wacken sounds less funny. |
| 01:03 |
|
dcook |
wine wacken? |
| 01:03 |
|
* dcook |
pictures metalheads in tuxes holding wine glasses |
| 01:07 |
|
* dcook |
notes that the time is only 11am in Sydney.. |
| 02:02 |
|
rangi |
@query overdrive |
| 02:02 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add preference for naming OverDrive collection |
| 02:02 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10879 normal, P5 - low, ---, pianohacker, NEW , OverDrive should check for OverDriveLibraryID before performing search |
| 02:02 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 02:02 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field |
| 02:02 |
|
huginn |
rangi: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml |
| 02:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
we are retiring ccsr in favor of bootstrap soon eh? |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
Oh? That didn't seem very long lived |
| 02:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
the bootstrap one looks pretty much just like it |
| 02:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
and is responsive in the same way |
| 02:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
just wondering if I should be fixing bugs |
| 02:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
in ccsr |
| 02:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
such as "opacnavright messes up login box in ccsr" |
| 02:19 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea: if you're patching it for the customer's staging server yes, otherwise, meh. |
| 02:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
meh it is. |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
Heh. |
| 02:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
actually most of the new nav preferences are messed up in ccsr. |
| 02:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
right nav and bottom nav |
| 02:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I think ok in bootstrap |
| 02:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I know ok in bootstrap |
| 02:23 |
|
dbs |
dcook: glad that the RDFa makes you happy; also, the LoC mirrors at http://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/ happen to be mine too :) |
| 02:29 |
|
dcook |
dbs: I put two and two together after a little bit of perusing ;) |
| 02:29 |
|
dcook |
Good work with both :) |
| 02:31 |
|
* jeff |
grins |
| 02:31 |
|
jeff |
dbs++ |
| 03:10 |
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| 03:11 |
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rambutan |
@seen jcamins |
| 03:11 |
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huginn |
rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 50 minutes and 54 seconds ago: <jcamins> Heh. |
| 03:11 |
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jcamins |
rambutan: I'll be leaving in a few minutes, but what's up? |
| 03:11 |
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rambutan |
@later tell jcamins Somehow when I'm logged on at home it holds the nick even after it's been kicked. |
| 03:11 |
|
huginn |
rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:12 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 03:12 |
|
rambutan |
that' |
| 03:12 |
|
rambutan |
s all |
| 03:13 |
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| 04:00 |
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wizzyrea |
hey um. for new theme development, if one were going to do that, what version of IE would we want to support (lowest) |
| 04:02 |
|
* dcook |
would suggest 7 |
| 04:03 |
|
dcook |
I think some people still use 6 but they're quite rare |
| 04:03 |
|
dcook |
I think 7 is becomingn rarer...so you might be able to get away with 8 |
| 04:03 |
|
dcook |
But I've had enough people complain about 7 to say 7 :p |
| 04:08 |
|
mtompset |
I can't get my data reindexed. GRRRRRR. |
| 04:17 |
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| 04:18 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:37 |
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| 04:59 |
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dcook |
mtompset: Still having issues? |
| 04:59 |
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* dcook |
waves to Oak and ebegin |
| 04:59 |
|
mtompset |
dcook: Yes. |
| 04:59 |
|
dcook |
What's up? |
| 05:00 |
|
dcook |
I know you were mentioning it the other day, but does Zebra croak? |
| 05:01 |
|
Oak |
Ahoy dcook |
| 05:01 |
|
Oak |
hello mtompset |
| 05:01 |
|
mtompset |
zebra isn't croaked. |
| 05:02 |
|
dcook |
So at what stage isn't it reindexing? |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
okay... reboot server. |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
so everything is running properly. |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
ps aux | grep zebra |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
looks good. |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
try the full reindex. |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
it barfs. |
| 05:04 |
|
mtompset |
so only partial reindex is done. |
| 05:05 |
|
mtompset |
so then I use bug 6566 |
| 05:05 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, CLOSED FIXED, Checking if DB records are properly indexed |
| 05:05 |
|
mtompset |
to insert records into the zebra queue. |
| 05:05 |
|
mtompset |
-- which worked in the past. |
| 05:05 |
|
mtompset |
(on a smaller data set) |
| 05:05 |
|
mtompset |
I had to do a few passes to complete, but it worked. |
| 05:06 |
|
mtompset |
basically called the script -c -z, sleep 360, and then loop again. manually break when it doesn't add any more. |
| 05:06 |
|
mtompset |
NOW... |
| 05:06 |
|
mtompset |
larger data set. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
512MB of ram with no swap space. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
I got the data in... painfully long to do. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
via mysqldump. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
Ran the full reindex properly. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library |
| 05:08 |
|
mtompset |
barfs (as expected) |
| 05:08 |
|
mtompset |
turns out the system is killing the process. |
| 05:08 |
|
mtompset |
can't remember what that is called, but linux has a way of detecting something that is going to result in massive deadlock and it auto kills it. |
| 05:09 |
|
mtompset |
I suspect with a larger data set, even this script's zebra queue method is hitting that same problem. |
| 05:10 |
|
mtompset |
because it adds about 13K more records, but then has been looping doing the same amount over and over. |
| 05:10 |
|
mtompset |
So I have a partial reindex, but not full. |
| 05:10 |
|
mtompset |
-- hello, Oak. :) |
| 05:11 |
|
mtompset |
And I am hoping that my library colleagues will agree to moving the hosting from our painful 512MB VM to a much nicer 1GB VM elsewhere for less money. :) |
| 05:11 |
|
mtompset |
Thankfully, this is the QA system. |
| 05:20 |
|
mtompset |
The problem is... there is no log that clearly states consistently, "Processed killed" or anything like that. :( |
| 05:22 |
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mtompset |
Is there a way to dump the zebraqueue? |
| 05:22 |
|
mtompset |
I mean empty? |
| 05:41 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:43 |
|
magnuse |
DELETE FROM zebraqueue;? |
| 05:45 |
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| 05:49 |
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* Oak |
waves back |
| 05:49 |
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* Oak |
hugs cait |
| 05:49 |
|
Oak |
here, have some cookies. |
| 05:49 |
|
cait |
oh hi Oak :) |
| 05:49 |
|
Oak |
:) |
| 05:49 |
|
cait |
thank you |
| 05:49 |
|
Oak |
welcome |
| 05:55 |
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| 05:55 |
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dcook |
@karma windows8 |
| 05:55 |
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huginn |
dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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| 05:56 |
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dcook |
@karma windows8 |
| 05:56 |
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huginn |
dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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| 05:57 |
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dcook |
... |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
@karma windows8 |
| 05:58 |
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huginn |
dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
| 06:00 |
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| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Windows 8 is horrible... |
| 06:03 |
|
* dcook |
looks at the laptop |
| 06:03 |
|
dcook |
Oh...has my user finally been created? |
| 06:03 |
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* dcook |
looks at his watch |
| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Wait, I don't wear a watch... |
| 06:06 |
|
cait |
heh |
| 06:06 |
|
cait |
i guess it's slow? |
| 06:06 |
|
cait |
why would you do that to a laptop btw? |
| 06:06 |
|
mtompset |
8.1 is better. |
| 06:06 |
|
mtompset |
still bad, but better. |
| 06:13 |
|
mtompset |
okay... > 172K records in the zebraqueue. |
| 06:13 |
|
mtompset |
cleared that up... let's see if I can get it to limp to completion now. |
| 06:17 |
|
mtompset |
YAY! I think it is working. I think it may limp to completion! |
| 06:17 |
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mtompset |
Added about 400+ records in 5 minutes, and then suddenly only 20+ records not done. :) |
| 06:20 |
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| 06:20 |
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rangi |
you people and your proprietary OSes |
| 06:21 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
| 06:23 |
|
pastebot |
"mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "BAM! Zebra is working. :)" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235 |
| 06:24 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I'm not digging the proprietary OSes so much these days |
| 06:24 |
|
dcook |
Work laptop though |
| 06:24 |
|
magnuse |
run linux off a usb? |
| 06:24 |
|
dcook |
Trying to figure out how I'm going to work at Kohacon.. |
| 06:25 |
|
rangi |
dcook: opposite here, you have to get special permission (like you work on the QA or design team) to have a windows machine :) |
| 06:25 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 06:25 |
|
dcook |
rangi: That sounds nice :) |
| 06:25 |
|
dcook |
magnuse: I suppose that's an option |
| 06:26 |
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magnuse |
catalyst++ |
| 06:27 |
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mtompset |
dcook: What do you mean "trying to figure out how..."? |
| 06:28 |
|
mtompset |
Won't you have a laptop brought with you? |
| 06:28 |
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magnuse |
“From Librarian to Developer in 90 Minutes†- that sounds like fun! |
| 06:28 |
|
dcook |
Yarp |
| 06:28 |
|
dcook |
The remote connection is pretty slow though |
| 06:29 |
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mtompset |
Remote connection? Why do you need a remote connection? |
| 06:29 |
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mtompset |
If this is a windows box, why not VirtualBox and set up putty and a few other useful tools? |
| 06:30 |
|
dcook |
I'm still going to want to have a hand in the kitchen back here :p |
| 06:30 |
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* magnuse |
would definitely go the virtualbox route if he was tied to a windows box during the hackfest |
| 06:30 |
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magnuse |
ah |
| 06:30 |
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dcook |
But that's not a bad idea... |
| 06:31 |
|
dcook |
Although I'm not sure how much hard drive space I have |
| 06:32 |
|
dcook |
And I don't think the memory is so hot on this laptop |
| 06:32 |
|
dcook |
Even the VM I have on this desktop is pretty crap |
| 06:32 |
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mtompset |
dcook: Welcome to my 11 months in the Philippines in 2012. :P |
| 06:33 |
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cait |
dcook: make sure you turn the starting sound of windows off somehow... |
| 06:33 |
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mtompset |
2GB netbook running 32-bit Ubuntu. |
| 06:33 |
|
cait |
you might get glares bringing a windows machine to kohacon... ;) |
| 06:33 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 06:33 |
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mtompset |
Seriously?! Such a judgmental crowd? :P |
| 06:34 |
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dcook |
Good to know |
| 06:34 |
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cait |
hehe not so bad |
| 06:35 |
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| 06:35 |
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rangi |
i totally judge people |
| 06:35 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:36 |
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dcook |
rangi is like a cat. It might hiss and scratch at you, but you can't help but them :p |
| 06:37 |
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mtompset |
^help but^help but love^? |
| 06:38 |
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dcook |
Indeed |
| 06:38 |
|
* dcook |
stares at the Windows 8 start menu and tries to remember what he was trying to do |
| 06:39 |
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magnuse |
install ubuntu? |
| 06:40 |
|
dcook |
Hard drive size |
| 06:40 |
|
dcook |
Thanks for the reminder ;) |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
Good lord...what's running on this beast.. |
| 06:40 |
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dcook |
83 gb used |
| 06:41 |
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dcook |
Windows is 20gb alone |
| 06:43 |
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cait |
@seen khall_away |
| 06:43 |
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huginn |
cait: khall_away was last seen in #koha 19 weeks, 0 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <khall_away> happy bday rangi! |
| 06:43 |
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cait |
@seen khall |
| 06:43 |
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huginn |
cait: khall was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <khall> Ah, I see. Thanks! |
| 06:46 |
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magnuse |
khall had a moment of enlightenment and bolted from #koha? ;-) |
| 06:49 |
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Oak |
mtompset, I have little knowledge of what you were doing earlier... but just thought it may help you or improve your understanding by reading this https://wiki.archlinux.org/ind[…]fs#Copy-On-Write_.28CoW.29 |
| 06:49 |
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Oak |
whole page preferably |
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* magnuse |
renews the koha.no domain |
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| 06:51 |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
| 06:53 |
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kivilahtio__ |
see bug 9921 |
| 06:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Patch doesn't apply , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
| 06:53 |
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kivilahtio__ |
so someone is currently working on that bug? |
| 06:53 |
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kivilahtio__ |
then I can just make a dirty hack to get our biblinumber preserved |
| 06:53 |
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dcook |
magnuse++ |
| 06:54 |
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mtompset |
Oak: Our VM environment doesn't let me touch /dev, even if I am root. I hate vserver! |
| 06:54 |
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mtompset |
vserver-- |
| 06:54 |
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dcook |
magnuse: Looks like someone already has koha.ca |
| 06:54 |
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dcook |
Naturally, it's about hockey :p |
| 06:55 |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio__: bug 9921 is about forcing the biblionumber into 001, not making what is in 001 be the biblionumber |
| 06:55 |
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mtompset |
Some place just outside of Ottawa with a bunch of old guys who like playing hockey. |
| 06:56 |
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Oak |
magnuse++ |
| 06:56 |
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Oak |
okay mtompset :) |
| 06:56 |
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mtompset |
I think I'm going to get more than 2 hours sleep. :) |
| 06:56 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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Oak |
@later tell mtompset http://www.newscientist.com/ar[…]wl-or-a-lark.html |
| 06:57 |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:58 |
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kivilahtio__ |
magnuse: good point |
| 06:59 |
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magnuse |
and let me just say that preserving biblionumbers from an old system sounds like a bad idea |
| 07:00 |
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| 07:01 |
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dcook |
Maybe preserve biblionumbers from an old system in a local field |
| 07:01 |
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dcook |
But I wouldn't use them |
| 07:08 |
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dcook |
All right. Gym time! |
| 07:08 |
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* dcook |
is starting to get addicted enough to these endorphins that he might actually use the gym facilities at the Atlantis |
| 07:08 |
|
dcook |
Maybe... |
| 07:08 |
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wahanui |
maybe is a momentaneous error |
| 07:08 |
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| 07:17 |
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paxed |
*grmbl* translatable strings "There are ", "no libraries defined", "no patron categories defined" that's just lovely. |
| 07:23 |
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kf |
if you don't like it improve it ;) |
| 07:23 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf |
| 07:24 |
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paxed |
kf: i'm just trying to translate this thing, no idea if we're going to use it. |
| 07:25 |
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kivilahtio__ |
good morning kf |
| 07:26 |
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kivilahtio__ |
paxed: we will :) |
| 07:26 |
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kf |
maybe stop calling it 'this thing' in that case ;) |
| 07:26 |
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paxed |
also, a missing %s in a translation string breaking a page completely, and not even giving any hint which translation string it is .... a big no-no in my book. |
| 07:27 |
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kf |
hm that's not true |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
be rangi |
| 07:27 |
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wahanui |
Send a patch! |
| 07:27 |
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kf |
if you use poedit it will give you ar warn on saving |
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kf |
if you run thte translation scripts, it will also give you a warning |
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kf |
and output the string |
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paxed |
the translation script doesn't tell which file it's doing. |
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kf |
it will give you the string |
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kf |
and you can search easily with that |
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magnuse |
paxed: which version and how are you running the translate script |
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magnuse |
? |
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paxed |
yes, i know. it could still say which file. |
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kf |
what would the file help you? |
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paxed |
magnuse: git, manually. |
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kf |
and most of the time it's multiple files |
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magnuse |
paxed: tried running with -v too? |
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paxed |
magnuse: ah, that helps. thanks. |
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paxed |
kf: what about those who use pootle, does that complain about missing %s too? |
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kf |
i think i tmight be one of the filters |
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kf |
i normally trnaslate with pootle and then use poedit to double check the files for errors |
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paxed |
the translation files are hostile. i can't imagine trying to translate those without any coding experience. |
| 07:43 |
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magnuse |
um, you should not have to look inside the files unless you make some mistake in matching up the %s's |
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rangi |
you mean the .po files? |
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paxed |
i have no problem with the po-file format. |
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rangi |
you just like complaining? |
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paxed |
msgid "%s %s (%s) %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s [" <-- this is the reason i'm cranky. |
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paxed |
as an example. |
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kf |
just copy it |
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magnuse |
yeah, those are the easy ones |
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kf |
we can try to help you, but if you are negative about it it won't get easier |
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paxed |
oh, i'm hoping to get underflow soon, i'm 8bit. |
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kivilahtio__ |
lol |
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kf |
ok, i didn't get that one :) |
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* magnuse |
neither |
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kf |
just saying, translating is boring |
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kivilahtio__ |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEOLPDOKdtY |
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kf |
i am not going to deny that :) |
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paxed |
8 bits can only store values in the range of 0-255, or if you use signed bit, -128 - 127 ... |
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kivilahtio__ |
ok how do I change the documentation in Koha? Mainly interested in where the man files for bulkmarcimport.pl are? |
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kf |
they are in the file I think |
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kf |
so you would send a patch |
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kf |
or do you mean something that was noted in the manual? |
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kf |
manual? |
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wahanui |
i guess manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: Ah here in the end |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: my mistake |
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magnuse |
.pl scripts have embedded POD, only the commands provided by the packages have separate man pages (maintained in docbook) |
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magnuse |
...as far as i know |
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magnuse |
well, .pl and .pm have POD |
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kivilahtio__ |
magnuse: got that |
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kivilahtio__ |
do you have any validator utility classes? |
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kivilahtio__ |
or libraries? |
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wahanui |
libraries are the kings of overcomplication |
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kivilahtio__ |
agreed :D |
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kf |
whta are you trying to do? |
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kivilahtio__ |
validate the biblioitemnumber and biblionumber in the C4-modules |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: well i can get my patch ready today |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: you can check it out later if you want |
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kf |
I won't have any time I am afraid |
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kf |
I am covered with QA currently... and my nrmal work |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: dont sweat it, no rpoblem, you have been very kind as it is |
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paxed |
hm. preferences.pl?tab=circulation apparently can't do utf8 |
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kf |
paxed: hm it works fine for me |
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kf |
where do you see a problem? |
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kivilahtio__ |
hmm, I cannot clear my zebra database |
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kivilahtio__ |
./rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b -a -v |
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kivilahtio__ |
maybe removing /var/lib/zebradb/biblios will do the trick ;) |
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kf |
hm i would not recomment removing files |
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kf |
recommend even |
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kf |
is there any error? when you run with -r? |
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kf |
there is also search faq? |
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kf |
search faq? |
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wahanui |
search faq is http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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paxed |
kf: http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/kohautf8.png |
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paxed |
kf: all the other prefs "panes" show the utf8 chars correctly |
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kf |
hm that's strange |
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kf |
German umlauts display correctly on the cir ctab |
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kf |
I just checked |
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paxed |
i wonder if pootle makes it hard for translators to see if there's a space at the end of the string or not? i need to fix dozens and dozens or translated strings that do not have space at the end when the msgid has space. |
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kf |
it shows it with a red underline |
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kf |
i think many people ignore it or forget it |
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paxed |
lovely. |
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kf |
translation is an iterative process I think |
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kf |
you learn and improve all the time |
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paxed |
it was a comment on the tool, not the process. |
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paxed |
ehheh. msgid "[% description |html %]" |
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magnuse |
just copy it |
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mtompset |
Woo hoo! It continues to reindex properly as far as I can tell. YAY! In a few hours, my indexing nightmare will be gone. |
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kivilahtio__ |
hmm, removing all the directories under var/lib/zebradb/authorities && biblios seems to have fixed my zebra issues regarding biblios not getting removed from zebra... |
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kivilahtio__ |
rebuild_zebra.pl hen rebuilds then broken directory structure |
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paxed |
magnuse: i know, but i find it funny the translation contains Template Toolkit code. |
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mtompset |
I didn't have a permissions problem or a directory problem. My problem is we are running in VERY LOW MEMORY situation. |
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mtompset |
By deleting everything from the zebraqueue table, and restarting the script in bug 6566, our indexing is slowly rebuilding. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, CLOSED FIXED, Checking if DB records are properly indexed |
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mtompset |
If there are too many records in the table, I suspect that the 5 minute interval for reindexing ends up clobbering the former instance attempting to reindex. |
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sophie_m |
mtompset : we've got a script to avoid multiple rebuild_zebra running in the case you describe |
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mtompset |
sophie_m: Actually, I was thinking that perhaps I should look into the reindexing method that tcohen has been pushing. |
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Barrc1 |
Would anyone have any idea why a Koha instance would spawn multiple opac-user.pl sessions, enough to crash a server!? |
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Barrc1 |
opac-search.pl too..........outside of an attack! |
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kivilahtio__ |
Barrc1: wow that is a big guestion. Maybe you should ask the mailing list? |
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kf |
Barrc1: could it be users? double clicking trying again and again? |
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Barrc1 |
kivilahtio_: Yep, I will do. Just thought some might have an quick idea! |
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Barrc1 |
After the crash the kern log shows 1000s of connection being initiated at the same time then, theny Mysql splats! |
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jcamins |
Barrc1: impatient users. |
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Barrc1 |
well, maybe multiple hundreds, rather than 1000's! |
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Barrc1 |
jcamins: The strange thing is the timestamp is exactly the same for all connections |
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jcamins |
Firewall? |
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Barrc1 |
Is there a firewall on the box? |
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Barrc1 |
is that what you mean? |
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jcamins |
Barrc1: I was thinking of a firewall in front of the server. |
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Barrc1 |
Yeah, looks like it might be something to try! |
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jcamins |
I'm not suggesting you add one. I'm suggesting that the one you have is screwed up. |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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Barrc1 |
Its a small enough setup. Virtual box with iptables running on it......nothing if front - unless the datacenter are doing something |
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vfernandes |
i'm having a problem with koha 3.12 renewals |
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kf |
vfernandes: what's the problem? |
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wahanui |
the problem is probably it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
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jcamins |
I guess you have access logs, so the first question is whether the incoming IP is exactly the same. |
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vfernandes |
the checkout calculates the due date correctly, but when I renew the due_date is the same as the renew date (today) |
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Barrc1 |
yeah, all the same, all with the exact same timestamp, down to ms - so strange |
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jcamins |
Exact same URL? |
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Barrc1 |
I was thinking if there was something in Koha spawning these but it is starting to look like a remote issue - caused by users or user requests |
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vfernandes |
kf any idea why this is happening? |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
your systempreferences |
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Barrc1 |
yes, all the requests originate from the same source IP |
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Barrc1 |
The IP of the end users |
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kf |
or the circulation conditions |
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kf |
check usedaysmode or similar for how the renewal date is calculated |
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Barrc1 |
apache requests, as opposed to other types! |
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kf |
and check there is a correct renewal period set in your circulation matrix |
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vfernandes |
omg! |
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vfernandes |
renewal period is empty :D |
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jcamins |
Barrc1: yeah, I had a feeling. |
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vfernandes |
thanks kf |
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magnuse |
Barrc1: is it similar to the issue eythian brought up on the mailing list? |
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magnuse |
Barrc1: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/039810.html |
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Oak |
later guys |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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mtompset |
tcohen! Good morning. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. :) |
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kivilahtio__ |
I am writing test cases for my patch |
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kivilahtio__ |
any idea how I can get the MARCXML back from zebra which I added using C4::Biblio::AddBiblio? |
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kivilahtio__ |
would like to compare those results. Are they comparable? Any ideas how to compare the sameness of bibliographic records? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio__: take a look at t/db_dependent/Search.t. |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: figures :D |
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kivilahtio__ |
thanks |
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jcamins |
But be aware that testing Zebra is kinda unpleasant. |
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jcamins |
If you can avoid any tests requiring Zebra, I recommend that route. |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: well I feel the tests wouldnt be so accurate. No better way to make sure marc records match than compare them character to character? |
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jcamins |
You can use Test::Deep. |
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jcamins |
I believe that works, though I'm not sure I have tried. |
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kf |
Joubu: around? :) |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: ok this zebra thing is a pain |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: So there is no way to fetch the exact record if i know the biblionumber? |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: from Zebra? |
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Joubu |
kf: Hi! |
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kivilahtio__ |
jcamins: I give up! :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings again, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Silly Firefox update. |
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oleonard |
Hopefully an improvement mtompset: http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethe[…]ess-week-117-120/ |
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oleonard |
mtompset: Also: Try running chatzilla standalone with xulrunner |
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oleonard |
kf++ |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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oleonard |
QA++ |
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magnuse |
qa++ always! |
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oleonard |
@karma qa |
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huginn |
oleonard: Karma for "qa" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
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mtompset |
qa++ |
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kivilahtio__ |
so who do I send mail to to be able to push to master? |
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kivilahtio__ |
And how do I define tests in bugzilla? |
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kivilahtio__ |
Any guidelines for that? |
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kf |
kivilahtio__: noone can push to master apart from the RM |
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kf |
you create your patches and put them on a bug, then switch the status to "needs signoff" and a tester will take a look |
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kf |
then if the tester says it's ok, qa does tet, and then the RM might push it ;) |
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kf |
a step by step test plan is what is expected, best in the commit message |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: yeah I got the workflow but where do I push for QA? |
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kf |
you don't push |
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kf |
it's all done via bugzilla |
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kf |
take a look at git bz? |
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kf |
git bz? |
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wahanui |
git bz is, like, git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git |
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kf |
arg wahanui. |
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kf |
patch workflow? |
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wahanui |
patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
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samueld |
Qa6DrtPH |
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magnuse |
oops |
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kivilahtio__ |
interesting. I forget what I read. |
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kf |
I or someone else from the QA team will get your patches from there after they are signed off :) |
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kf |
for really big developments there have been branches on mostly personal or company repos in the past - but normally it works with patches on the bug |
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oleonard |
*cough* Bug 10309 *cough* |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: ok, so I have a branch named Bug_6113, which has several commits, each commit start with the bugzilla header. |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: now I need to understand this git bz. |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: I'll let you know what happens :) |
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kivilahtio__ |
hmm, I didn't "git checkout -b bug_xxxx origin/master" instead i did "git checkout -b Bug_6113" and hacked away |
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kf |
ok :) |
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kf |
there is a test bug somewhere if you want to test |
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kf |
that shoudl also have worked |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: Ok, thanks. I try to gz this branch to bugzilla then |
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oleonard |
anyone know off the top of their heads what happens to holds on items which are batch-deleted? |
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oleonard |
In 3.10.x anyway it doesn't look like they're moved to oldreserves |
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oleonard |
Not in master either. |
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kf |
oleonard: ew. |
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kf |
sounds like a bug |
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oleonard |
Looks like the script checks for allocated holds but nothing else if I understand it correctly |
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kf |
oleonard: is that item batch delete? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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kf |
oleonard: maybe we need to make sure it uses the right sub to cancel the reserve instead of just deleting it |
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oleonard |
Oh nice, it deletes the item and biblio record even if the hold is marked waiting |
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oleonard |
tcohen: No, the conservative party will just make everyone suffer for a while |
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oleonard |
Hopefully the "liberal" |
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oleonard |
..party won't blink |
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oleonard |
The last time this happened (almost 20 years ago) it didn't end well for the conservatives. I hope history repeats itself. |
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tcohen |
i hope the same |
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oleonard |
In the US the Google Doodle is celebrating the anniversary of Yosemite National Park, which will be closed because of the shutdown. |
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kivilahtio__ |
OK I got the git bz working, but how do I send my 5 commits inside branch bug_6113 to bugzilla. Using git bz 6113 <Commit_hash> just overwrites my attachements in bugzilla as their commit description header is the same |
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kivilahtio__ |
do I need to merge my commits into one big commit? or can I somehow attach the whole branch? |
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oleonard |
Do your 5 commits need to be separate? Can you squash them into one? |
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kivilahtio__ |
oleonard: they don't need to, but I separated the test cases to a separate commit, but I can merge the other 4 |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio__: You can use an interactive rebase to squash them together |
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oleonard |
git rebase -i [origin/master] |
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kivilahtio__ |
oleonard: I am VERY new to git |
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kivilahtio__ |
oleonard: OK, I'l look into that |
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vfernandes |
hi again... |
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vfernandes |
how to define stopwords in 3.10? |
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oleonard |
vfernandes: You don't define stopwords in Koha if you're using Zebra. |
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oleonard |
vfernandes: I don' t know much more than that. Are you asking because Zebra is not ignoring something it should? |
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kivilahtio__ |
git is hard :( |
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kivilahtio__ |
do you use hard-core terminal for your git needs? or are the graphical git tools suitable for our use? |
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kivilahtio__ |
I guess nothing works with git-bz |
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kivilahtio__ |
I mean the GUI tools |
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oleonard |
I don't find I have a need for GUI tools |
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oleonard |
I'm not a hardcore Linux geek, but with some experience I'm a happy command-line git user |
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* kf |
too |
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kf |
it gets to be your second nature |
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kf |
after a while |
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kf |
hm maybe wrong phrase... but it gets really easy |
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jcamins |
git? |
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wahanui |
i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio__: ^^ |
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jcamins |
git-bz |
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jcamins |
git-bz? |
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wahanui |
git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio__: ^^ |
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kf |
bye all |
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masoud |
Hi |
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wahanui |
que tal, masoud |
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masoud |
I just finished installing Koha on Ubuntu |
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masoud |
I am trying to setup my library |
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masoud |
But I get the following error on http://localhost |
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masoud |
"System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance." |
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masoud |
Tried googling but it didn't help |
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masoud |
any pointers would be great |
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masoud |
am running a virtualbox Xubuntu 12.04 LTS |
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masoud |
with 1 GB RAM |
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oleonard |
masoud: What method did you use to install Koha? |
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oleonard |
You're arriving at the public interface rather than the staff interface |
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masoud |
not sure if I am naive.... |
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oleonard |
You have to access the staff interface to complete installation |
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masoud |
went about the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
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masoud |
did sudo apt-get install |
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kivilahtio__ |
luckily I made backups of the changes I did today, otherwise... The whole git repo got blasted under my rebases and undos and whatnot |
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kivilahtio__ |
anyway now got the one-commit-patch to bugzilla |
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oleonard |
masoud: Did you define a domain name in koha-sites.conf? |
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kivilahtio__ |
so is there any standard for the "create test case" in bugzilla? Or is it enough testing if I have a test script attached in the patch? |
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masoud |
don't have a domain name |
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kivilahtio__ |
like this link |
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kivilahtio__ |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]uct=Koha&bug=6113 |
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masoud |
i am currently testin it out |
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masoud |
on a standalone one |
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oleonard |
masoud: Did you edit koha-sites.conf as described in those instructions? |
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masoud |
before I install for my friends library |
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masoud |
yes i did... |
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masoud |
left the domain as "" |
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oleonard |
masoud: You can put a made-up domain in koha-sites.conf if you're doing a local test installation |
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masoud |
tried that as well as .myDNSname.org |
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masoud |
lemme try once more |
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masoud |
but when I do a dnsdomainname in the Ubuntu terminal, I get nothing |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio__: we don't really use BZ test cases at present. |
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oleonard |
masoud: I don't know what to suggest. All I know is that I have followed those instructions and installed successfully. I would think about what steps you might have done differently from the instructions. |
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masoud |
thanks, @oleonard.... is there a direct way of accessing the staff site.... say by way of a specific url? |
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masoud |
or is it always http://localhost? |
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oleonard |
A specific URL is exactly what you should have defined in koha-sites.conf |
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masoud |
for which parameter in the koha-sites.conf? |
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rambutan |
masoud: what happens when you do: http://127.0.0.1:8080 |
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masoud |
i get a 404 |
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oleonard |
rambutan: This is a package install, so unless masoud defined a different intranet port by hand I don't think that will work. |
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oleonard |
masoud: What is your instance name? |
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rambutan |
really, didn't know that |
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masoud |
library |
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oleonard |
What about going to http://library-intra ? |
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masoud |
chromium throws an error "This webpage is not available" |
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oleonard |
masoud: How far into the instructions did you get? |
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masoud |
till the instruction on lynx |
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masoud |
installed lynx .... |
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masoud |
but then i figured that i could run on the chromium browser as well |
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oleonard |
Yes, that's right. |
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wahanui |
no it's not. |
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oleonard |
Shut up wahanui |
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wahanui |
oleonard is making me cry! |
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kivilahtio__ |
I like wahanui |
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oleonard |
masoud: Maybe you could try pasting the contents of /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf |
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oleonard |
paste? |
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wahanui |
i heard paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
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masoud |
DOMAIN="" INTRAPORT="80" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" DEFAULTSQL="" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21" ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en" |
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oleonard |
Sorry masoud, I don't know what to suggest next. Maybe someone else has an idea. |
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masoud |
no probs, @oleonard.... thanks a lot... |
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jcamins |
masoud: does `ping library-intra` work? |
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masoud |
says unknown host |
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jcamins |
masoud: okay, there's your problem. |
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masoud |
this is a standalone install... |
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jcamins |
You'll have to configure library-intra to point to the correct place. |
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masoud |
ok ... |
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masoud |
let me play around with /etc/hosts |
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masoud |
thanks @jcamins.... |
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masoud |
worked after modifying my /etc/hosts |
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masoud |
i get the staff login.... |
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masoud |
pheww..... thanks a lot guys... |
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masoud |
got onto the web installer... |
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jcamins |
Curse you government shutdown, you get in the way of my work! |
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* jcamins |
routes around the damage. |
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cait |
can you? |
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oleonard |
You're not allowed to route around the damage until you have been ideologically transformed by it. |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah, somehow... |
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cait |
Joubu: still around? |
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mtompset |
Why does the government shutdown affect you, jcamins? |
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mtompset |
How? |
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tcohen |
eythian: did u see the fixed patch for bug 10624? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch |
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tcohen |
mtompset: maybe some gov's offices are closed? |
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mtompset |
I should get around to signing off those things I'd say I'd try signing off on. :) |
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mtompset |
what table shows checkouts. |
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cait |
hm i am going to do a git bisect... wish me luck |
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chris_n |
stupid administration |
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oleonard |
mtompset: issues |
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cait |
iiinteresting |
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cait |
bug 9130 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, CLOSED FIXED, Remove old javascript from Parcel |
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cait |
that broke it |
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mtompset |
uh oh... poor dcook, breaking things. |
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cait |
yay :) |
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cait |
i cleaned my cookies - now i can see pending orders again :D |
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mtompset |
cookies++ |
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mtompset |
@karma cookies |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "cookies" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
bug 10905 and bug 10957 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 710$a with 710$b (subordinate unit) present shows wrong (XSLT) |
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rangi |
bug 7791 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7791 critical, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning |
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cait1 |
morning rangi |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait1 |
@wunder wellington |
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huginn |
cait1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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cait1 |
oh |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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cait1 |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.3°C (8:35 PM CEST on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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cait1 |
looks like you win |
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cait1 |
brr |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (3:00 PM ART on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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rangi |
@wunder reno,nv |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 17.3°C (11:15 AM PDT on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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cait1 |
hmm |
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rangi |
everything in the signoff queue applies |
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tcohen |
its in a desert, right? wide temprerature amplitude |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
bbiab |
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* tcohen |
goes find a bigger luggage |
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tcohen |
bbl, bye #koha |
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rangi |
what does the fox say? |
| 18:56 |
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wahanui |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE |
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cait1 |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
the fox? |
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wahanui |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE |
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Topic for #koha is now QA sprint, run Forrest run! | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]-library-software |
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* cait |
goes to test bug 9044 next |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions |
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cait |
wizzyrea: US making all the news here tody |
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wizzyrea |
ugh I know. |
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* wizzyrea |
finds her "go maple leafs" shirt |
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rambutan |
for our governmental issues? |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
i guess people find it hard to imagine that here |
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wizzyrea |
maybe australia? if this happens there it triggers immediate dissolution of the government and full re-elections |
| 20:03 |
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wizzyrea |
this seems sensible to me |
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rangi |
same here |
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cait |
not sure here |
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oleonard |
Hard to imagine our politicians enacting a rule which could end up getting themselves fired. |
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rambutan |
gee, talk about a tsunami approach! |
| 20:04 |
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wizzyrea |
BURN IT ALL |
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rangi |
well if they cant do their jobs, then gtfo and let someone who can in |
| 20:04 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^^ |
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rambutan |
what I think should happen in cases like this is that political parties are immendiately dissolved until a totally clean budget is passed |
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rangi |
confidence and supply agreements |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of... need to test LoC ztarget now. |
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rambutan |
sorry wizzyrea, LoC is closed |
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rangi |
was working for me |
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wizzyrea |
the z target? |
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* wizzyrea |
tests it |
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cait |
ah different here |
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rangi |
all last night |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
but i have no idea how to explain it in english |
| 20:06 |
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wizzyrea |
yea it's up |
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rangi |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
they missed that cable in the switch room. |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
no one is being paid to turn it off |
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wizzyrea |
kek |
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wizzyrea |
the idea that they actually turned off the web sites |
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cait |
ah different system here |
| 20:07 |
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wizzyrea |
or put on a placeholder |
| 20:07 |
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cait |
interesting |
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wahanui |
i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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wizzyrea |
seeing what happens when the staff isn't there to keep it running would be a better indicator of the necessity of money to run the service than shutting it down. |
| 20:08 |
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rangi |
totally |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I don't think you understand this. |
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rangi |
i hope they didnt actually turn it off |
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jcamins |
We're SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. |
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wizzyrea |
uhhuh |
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jcamins |
No matter how much more expensive that is than any alternative. |
| 20:08 |
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wizzyrea |
no I get it. |
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rangi |
cos anytime you do that, theres a decent chance that server aint coming back |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
Because WE ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. |
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* jcamins |
begins chanting "SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT" in time with the [expletive deleted]s in DC. |
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oleonard |
rangi: http://i.imgur.com/UZCzSH4.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
did you just make that |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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jcamins |
lol |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
this was interesting to me |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/DylanReeve[…]84900013282705408 |
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oleonard |
Gotta run guys. Try not to make the government any shutty-downier while I'm gone. |
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rangi |
im not sure it would be possible |
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rangi |
cya oleonard :) |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, I'm hoping our insurance might go down, but honestly I'd be shocked. |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
Apparently we already have extraordinarly cheap insurance here. |
| 20:15 |
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wizzyrea |
getting it on your own, outside a group, is still going to be stupid expensive. |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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gmcharlt |
don't get me started on the plan that could have been |
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* gmcharlt |
is starting to emerge from the weeds |
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* cait |
waves |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines gmcharlt grass stained, dirty, wild eyed |
| 20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.theatlanticwire.com[…]e-shutdown/70068/ |
| 20:20 |
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rangi |
yeah that was cool |
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ibeardslee |
http://blog.scribd.com/2013/10/01/the-new-scribd/ |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
interesting |
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wahanui |
somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: what gets me in that photo .. WTFH would you be sitting down with a pack on your back reading when you have all that scenery to be looking at |
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wizzyrea |
on your iPad |
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wizzyrea |
which you can't see in that light anyway |
| 20:29 |
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wizzyrea |
at least not that generation of iPad. |
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tcohen |
hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
whaddup :) |
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ltreat |
Hello, everyone. Anyone available to answer a fairly technical question re: database migration? |
| 20:55 |
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tcohen |
cait? |
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wahanui |
cait: go to bed |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
not that late yet :) |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
but soonish |
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rangi |
ltreat: we wont know until you ask it |
| 20:57 |
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tcohen |
cait: bug 10691 |
| 20:57 |
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ltreat |
Very true. I'd heard of this project because we run evergreen at my work, but my church library needs an opensource (read, free) program but it currently uses Concourse |
| 20:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list |
| 20:57 |
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ltreat |
Don't want to re-enter all the books |
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tcohen |
any thoughts? |
| 20:59 |
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rangi |
it might be massive overkill for your library ltreat |
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ltreat |
It might, and we're definitely not tech-gurus and setting it up will be probably a pain, but we need a free alternative without a book number limit |
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rangi |
if you already know evergreen, why not that? |
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rangi |
its only the same level of overkill ;) |
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ltreat |
According to the IT guy, it's much more complicated to set up and requires a server. He thought that Koha was on a slightly smaller scale |
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ltreat |
He could have been wrong lol |
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rangi |
they can both run big, and both run small |
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rangi |
libraries |
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wahanui |
libraries are the kings of overcomplication |
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ltreat |
ikr? you think you have everything set up and then squirrely business happens |
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rangi |
koha requires a server too |
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ltreat |
agh. Don't suppose anyone knows of any other free services for a small library without a book limit? |
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rangi |
it is easier to install, because it is packaged, so if you use ubuntu or debian easier |
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tcohen |
i'd stick with the one that requires less maintenance |
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rangi |
but you either host it yourself, or pay someone to host it for you |
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rangi |
just like you would for evergreen |
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ltreat |
Which one is less maintenance? but yes, actually there are hosting services for libraries like mine where we can get it on the cheap |
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rangi |
cheap is not my forte im afraid, im into free as in freedom, someone else might know though |
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ltreat |
There are specific non-profit hosting companies, according to the IT guy. I would have to track them down. But if both require a server, which would be easier all in all maintenance-wise? I don't have a very tech-happy staff |
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rangi |
hard to know, ive never maintained an evergreen server |
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ltreat |
hm. all right then. thanks for the help! |
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tcohen |
cait: do u have a minute to talk about that bug? |
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cait |
oh sorry |
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cait |
bit tired already, i missed your comment earlier |
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cait |
what's the problem? |
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wahanui |
the problem is probably it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
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tcohen |
10691 |
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tcohen |
would u agree to test for RLIN, and fallback to search instead of authid? |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, eythian |
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tcohen |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
hi there |
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eythian |
I have your bug open, I'll hopefully get a look at it today. |
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tcohen |
=) |
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cait |
tcohen: I think the way we do it most places is - use the number if there is one |
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cait |
else do a text search |
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cait |
i think that jared does it that way on the detail page, but not sure |
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cait |
results seem different |
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tcohen |
ok, some refactoring is needed then, but it wouldnt be so problematic |
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tcohen |
what i noticed is that this actually doesnt work at all for unimarc... |
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tcohen |
http://rt.com/usa/us-governmen[…]utdown-memes-570/ |
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cait |
hm you would have to ask jared about that i think |
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cait |
not sure about how much is implemented of those features for unimarc |
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jcamins |
tcohen: the value stored in $9 is authid. |
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jcamins |
"RLIN" is just wrong in this context. |
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tcohen |
ok, learnt |
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jcamins |
It's one of those bugs that doesn't really have a clear fix so it stays broken. |
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tcohen |
you're talking about the naming of $9? or the bug itself jcamins? |
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jcamins |
The name. |
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wahanui |
somebody said the name was weird too? |
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cait |
switching to $0 and $w would be nice... |
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jcamins |
That'd be very nice. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , print a slip can cause an error |
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jcamins |
write code that drives our products and enables things to get |
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jcamins |
done? |
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jcamins |
Well, that didn't quite work. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
neither will that job |
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jcamins |
But I definitely wake up in the morning and think "I want to write code to drive some faceless company's products!" |
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eythian |
face recognition software for a faceless corporation? |
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* jcamins |
considers. |
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jcamins |
Nope, still don't wake up thinking that. |
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wizzyrea |
so, I'm still connecting to z39.50 via yaz... |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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wizzyrea |
to LoC |
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wizzyrea |
so it's not dead yet. |
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dcook |
morning folks |
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wizzyrea |
Hullo-a |
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dcook |
LoC may be down, but you can still read about UNIMARC on Ifla's site :p |
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* dcook |
wonders if there woudl be time to overthrow MARC before LoC comes back online |
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jcamins |
Yes! Do it! |
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* dcook |
looks over at gmcharlt |
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dcook |
Maybe Galen orchestrated this whole thing... |
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* dcook |
wonders if the NSA tracks #koha |
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dcook |
:P |
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