Time  Nick         Message
23:50 dcook        :P
23:49 * dcook      wonders if the NSA tracks #koha
23:49 dcook        Maybe Galen orchestrated this whole thing...
23:49 * dcook      looks over at gmcharlt
23:49 jcamins      Yes! Do it!
23:48 * dcook      wonders if there woudl be time to overthrow MARC before LoC comes back online
23:48 dcook        LoC may be down, but you can still read about UNIMARC on Ifla's site :p
23:21 wizzyrea     Hullo-a
23:19 dcook        morning folks
23:16 wizzyrea     so it's not dead yet.
23:15 wizzyrea     to LoC
23:15 jcamins      Woohoo!
23:15 wizzyrea     so, I'm still connecting to z39.50 via yaz...
23:13 jcamins      Nope, still don't wake up thinking that.
23:13 * jcamins    considers.
23:11 eythian      face recognition software for a faceless corporation?
23:08 jcamins      But I definitely wake up in the morning and think "I want to write code to drive some faceless company's products!"
23:07 rangi        neither will that job
23:07 rangi        heh
23:07 jcamins      Well, that didn't quite work.
23:07 jcamins      done?
23:07 jcamins      write code that drives our products and enables things to get
23:07 jcamins      [off] Are you a Java Developer who craves the opportunity to
22:55 tweetbot_    [off] @wizzyrea: "@aurynn I am quite proud of the #KohaILS community in that regard, there is a culture of "don't be a dick" that normally prevails."
22:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , print a slip can cause an error
22:37 tweetbot_    [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS  [Koha-patches] [PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 10843: the DateTime->add method takes a… http://t.co/EfWaVydVID"
22:37 jcamins      That'd be very nice.
22:37 cait         switching to $0 and $w would be nice...
22:32 wahanui      somebody said the name was weird too?
22:32 jcamins      The name.
22:32 tcohen       you're talking about the naming of $9? or the bug itself jcamins?
22:30 jcamins      It's one of those bugs that doesn't really have a clear fix so it stays broken.
22:27 tcohen       ok, learnt
22:23 jcamins      "RLIN" is just wrong in this context.
22:23 jcamins      tcohen: the value stored in $9 is authid.
21:44 cait         not sure about how much is implemented of those features for unimarc
21:44 cait         hm you would have to ask jared about that i think
21:33 tcohen       http://rt.com/usa/us-government-shutdown-memes-570/
21:25 tcohen       what i noticed is that this actually doesnt work at all for unimarc...
21:25 tcohen       ok, some refactoring is needed then, but it wouldnt be so problematic
21:25 cait         results seem different
21:25 cait         i think that jared does it that way on the detail page, but not sure
21:25 cait         else do a text search
21:24 cait         tcohen: I think the way we do it most places is - use the number if there is one
21:22 tcohen       =)
21:20 eythian      I have your bug open, I'll hopefully get a look at it today.
21:20 eythian      hi there
21:19 tcohen       hi eythian
21:19 wahanui      bidet, eythian
21:19 eythian      hi
21:17 tcohen       would u agree to test for RLIN, and fallback to search instead of authid?
21:16 tcohen       10691
21:16 wahanui      the problem is probably it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
21:16 cait         what's the problem?
21:16 cait         bit tired already, i missed your comment earlier
21:16 cait         oh sorry
21:16 tcohen       cait: do u have a minute to talk about that bug?
21:09 ltreat       hm. all right then. thanks for the help!
21:08 rangi        hard to know, ive never maintained an evergreen server
21:06 ltreat       There are specific non-profit hosting companies, according to the IT guy. I would have to track them down. But if both require a server, which would be easier all in all maintenance-wise? I don't have a very tech-happy staff
21:04 rangi        cheap is not my forte im afraid, im into free as in freedom, someone else might know though
21:03 ltreat       Which one is less maintenance? but yes, actually there are hosting services for libraries like mine where we can get it on the cheap
21:03 rangi        just like you would for evergreen
21:03 rangi        but you either host it yourself, or pay someone to host it for you
21:03 tcohen       i'd stick with the one that requires less maintenance
21:02 rangi        it is easier to install, because it is packaged, so if you use ubuntu or debian easier
21:02 ltreat       agh. Don't suppose anyone knows of any other free services for a small library without a book limit?
21:02 rangi        koha requires a server too
21:02 ltreat       ikr? you think you have everything set up and then squirrely business happens
21:01 wahanui      libraries are the kings of overcomplication
21:01 rangi        libraries
21:01 rangi        they can both run big, and both run small
21:01 ltreat       He could have been wrong lol
21:01 ltreat       According to the IT guy, it's much more complicated to set up and requires a server. He thought that Koha was on a slightly smaller scale
21:01 rangi        its only the same level of overkill ;)
21:01 rangi        if you already know evergreen, why not that?
21:00 ltreat       It might, and we're definitely not tech-gurus and setting it up will be probably a pain, but we need a free alternative without a book number limit
20:59 rangi        it might be massive overkill for your library ltreat
20:59 tcohen       any thoughts?
20:57 ltreat       Don't want to re-enter all the books
20:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list
20:57 ltreat       Very true. I'd heard of this project because we run evergreen at my work, but my church library needs an opensource (read, free) program but it currently uses Concourse
20:57 tcohen       cait: bug 10691
20:57 rangi        ltreat: we wont know until you ask it
20:56 cait         but soonish
20:56 cait         not that late yet :)
20:56 cait         heh
20:55 wahanui      cait: go to bed
20:55 tcohen       cait?
20:55 ltreat       Hello, everyone. Anyone available to answer a fairly technical question re: database migration?
20:50 wizzyrea     whaddup :)
20:50 tcohen       hi wizzyrea
20:29 wizzyrea     at least not that generation of iPad.
20:29 wizzyrea     which you can't see in that light anyway
20:29 wizzyrea     on your iPad
20:28 ibeardslee   rangi: what gets me in that photo .. WTFH would you be sitting down with a pack on your back reading when you have all that scenery to be looking at
20:21 wahanui      somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:21 rangi        interesting
20:21 ibeardslee   http://blog.scribd.com/2013/10/01/the-new-scribd/
20:20 rangi        yeah that was cool
20:19 wizzyrea     http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/veterans-occupy-world-war-ii-memorial-closed-because-shutdown/70068/
20:16 * wizzyrea   imagines gmcharlt grass stained, dirty, wild eyed
20:16 * cait       waves
20:16 * gmcharlt   is starting to emerge from the weeds
20:16 gmcharlt     don't get me started on the plan that could have been
20:15 jcamins      Yeah.
20:15 wizzyrea     getting it on your own, outside a group, is still going to be stupid expensive.
20:15 jcamins      Apparently we already have extraordinarly cheap insurance here.
20:15 jcamins      rangi: yeah, I'm hoping our insurance might go down, but honestly I'd be shocked.
20:14 rangi        cya oleonard :)
20:14 rangi        im not sure it would be possible
20:14 oleonard     Gotta run guys. Try not to make the government any shutty-downier while I'm gone.
20:14 rangi        https://twitter.com/DylanReeve/status/384900013282705408
20:14 rangi        this was interesting to me
20:13 tweetbot_    [off] @wizzyrea: "lol I <3 my #KohaILS friends - re: govt shutdown: http://t.co/IwwS6lHwRA @oleonard"
20:12 rangi        yeah
20:12 jcamins      [off] I know a librarian from LC who was required to catch a flight at 12:02 from New York to DC because they thought that the government was going to be shut down. He was partly on vacation, but they still had to pay god-knows-how-much extra to bring him back to DC.
20:11 rangi        heh
20:11 jcamins      lol
20:11 oleonard     Yes
20:11 wizzyrea     did you just make that
20:10 wizzyrea     lol
20:10 oleonard     rangi: http://i.imgur.com/UZCzSH4.jpg
20:09 * jcamins    begins chanting "SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT" in time with the [expletive deleted]s in DC.
20:09 jcamins      Because WE ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT.
20:09 rangi        cos anytime you do that, theres a decent chance that server aint coming back
20:08 wizzyrea     no I get it.
20:08 jcamins      No matter how much more expensive that is than any alternative.
20:08 wizzyrea     uhhuh
20:08 jcamins      We're SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT.
20:08 rangi        i hope they didnt actually turn it off
20:08 jcamins      wizzyrea: I don't think you understand this.
20:08 rangi        totally
20:08 wizzyrea     seeing what happens when the staff isn't there to keep it running would be a better indicator of the necessity of money to run the service than shutting it down.
20:07 wahanui      i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:07 cait         interesting
20:07 wizzyrea     or put on a placeholder
20:07 cait         ah different system here
20:07 wizzyrea     the idea that they actually turned off the web sites
20:07 wizzyrea     kek
20:07 rangi        no one is being paid to turn it off
20:07 wizzyrea     they missed that cable in the switch room.
20:06 rangi        yep
20:06 wizzyrea     yea it's up
20:06 cait         but i have no idea how to explain it in english
20:06 rangi        all last night
20:06 cait         ah different here
20:06 * wizzyrea   tests it
20:06 wizzyrea     the z target?
20:06 rangi        was working for me
20:06 rambutan     sorry wizzyrea, LoC is closed
20:05 wizzyrea     speaking of... need to test LoC ztarget now.
20:05 rangi        confidence and supply agreements
20:05 rambutan     what I think should happen in cases like this is that political parties are immendiately dissolved until a totally clean budget is passed
20:04 wizzyrea     ^^^^^
20:04 rangi        well if they cant do their jobs, then gtfo and let someone who can in
20:04 wizzyrea     BURN IT ALL
20:04 rambutan     gee, talk about a tsunami approach!
20:04 oleonard     Hard to imagine our politicians enacting a rule which could end up getting themselves fired.
20:04 cait         not sure here
20:04 rangi        same here
20:03 wizzyrea     this seems sensible to me
20:03 wizzyrea     maybe australia? if this happens there it triggers immediate dissolution of the government and full re-elections
20:03 cait         i guess people find it hard to imagine that here
20:03 cait         yes
20:02 rambutan     for our governmental issues?
20:02 * wizzyrea   finds her "go maple leafs" shirt
20:02 wizzyrea     ugh I know.
20:02 cait         wizzyrea: US making all the news here tody
20:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions
20:00 * cait       goes to test bug 9044 next
19:08 wahanui      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
19:08 wizzyrea     the fox?
19:08 wizzyrea     hehe
19:05 cait1        heh
18:56 wahanui      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
18:56 rangi        what does the fox say?
18:53 tcohen       bbl, bye #koha
18:46 * tcohen     goes find a bigger luggage
18:45 rangi        bbiab
18:45 rangi        yep
18:45 tcohen       its in a desert, right? wide temprerature amplitude
18:45 rangi        everything in the signoff queue applies
18:45 cait1        hmm
18:44 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 17.3°C (11:15 AM PDT on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
18:44 rangi        @wunder reno,nv
18:43 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (3:00 PM ART on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
18:43 tcohen       @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:39 cait1        brr
18:39 cait1        looks like you win
18:39 huginn       cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.3°C (8:35 PM CEST on October 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
18:39 cait1        @wunder Konstanz
18:39 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:38 rangi        @wunder nzwn
18:38 cait1        oh
18:38 huginn       cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
18:38 cait1        @wunder wellington
18:38 rangi        morning
18:38 cait1        morning rangi
18:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7791 critical, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
18:37 rangi        bug 7791
18:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 710$a with 710$b (subordinate unit) present shows wrong (XSLT)
18:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on
18:34 tcohen       bug 10905 and bug 10957
17:59 reiveune     bye
17:19 huginn       mtompset: Karma for "cookies" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
17:19 mtompset     @karma cookies
17:19 mtompset     cookies++
16:56 cait         i cleaned my cookies - now i can see pending orders again :D
16:55 cait         yay :)
16:54 mtompset     uh oh... poor dcook, breaking things.
16:52 cait         that broke it
16:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, CLOSED FIXED, Remove old javascript from Parcel
16:52 cait         bug 9130
16:52 cait         iiinteresting
16:50 oleonard     mtompset: issues
16:48 chris_n      stupid administration
16:47 cait         hm i am going to do a git bisect... wish me luck
16:47 mtompset     what table shows checkouts.
16:46 mtompset     I should get around to signing off those things I'd say I'd try signing off on. :)
16:38 tcohen       mtompset: maybe some gov's offices are closed?
16:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch
16:37 tcohen       eythian: did u see the fixed patch for bug 10624?
16:37 mtompset     How?
16:36 mtompset     Why does the government shutdown affect you, jcamins?
16:34 cait         Joubu: still around?
16:25 jcamins      cait: yeah, somehow...
16:25 oleonard     You're not allowed to route around the damage until you have been ideologically transformed by it.
16:25 cait         can you?
16:24 * jcamins    routes around the damage.
16:24 jcamins      Curse you government shutdown, you get in the way of my work!
16:21 masoud       got onto the web installer...
16:17 masoud       pheww..... thanks a lot guys...
16:17 masoud       i get the staff login....
16:17 masoud       worked after modifying my /etc/hosts
16:16 masoud       thanks @jcamins....
16:13 masoud       let me play around with /etc/hosts
16:13 masoud       ok ...
16:13 jcamins      You'll have to configure library-intra to point to the correct place.
16:12 masoud       this is a standalone install...
16:12 jcamins      masoud: okay, there's your problem.
16:11 masoud       says unknown host
16:10 jcamins      masoud: does `ping library-intra` work?
16:06 masoud       no probs, @oleonard.... thanks a lot...
16:05 oleonard     Sorry masoud, I don't know what to suggest next. Maybe someone else has an idea.
15:59 masoud       DOMAIN="" INTRAPORT="80" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" DEFAULTSQL="" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21" ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en"
15:56 wahanui      i heard paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org
15:56 oleonard     paste?
15:56 oleonard     masoud: Maybe you could try pasting the contents of /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
15:54 kivilahtio__ I like wahanui
15:52 wahanui      oleonard is making me cry!
15:52 oleonard     Shut up wahanui
15:51 wahanui      no it's not.
15:51 oleonard     Yes, that's right.
15:51 masoud       but then i figured that i could run on the chromium browser as well
15:51 masoud       installed lynx ....
15:51 masoud       till the instruction on lynx
15:50 oleonard     masoud: How far into the instructions did you get?
15:49 masoud       chromium throws an error "This webpage is not available"
15:48 oleonard     What about going to http://library-intra ?
15:47 masoud       library
15:47 rambutan     really, didn't know that
15:47 oleonard     masoud: What is your instance name?
15:47 oleonard     rambutan: This is a package install, so unless masoud defined a different intranet port by hand I don't think that will work.
15:47 masoud       i get a 404
15:46 rambutan     masoud: what happens when you do: http://127.0.0.1:8080
15:45 masoud       for which parameter in the koha-sites.conf?
15:44 oleonard     A specific URL is exactly what you should have defined in koha-sites.conf
15:44 masoud       or is it always http://localhost?
15:43 masoud       thanks, @oleonard.... is there a direct way of accessing the staff site.... say by way of a specific url?
15:42 oleonard     masoud: I don't know what to suggest. All I know is that I have followed those instructions and installed successfully. I would think about what steps you might have done differently from the instructions.
15:41 jcamins      kivilahtio__: we don't really use BZ test cases at present.
15:40 masoud       but when I do a dnsdomainname in the Ubuntu terminal, I get nothing
15:39 masoud       lemme try once more
15:38 masoud       tried that as well as .myDNSname.org
15:38 oleonard     masoud: You can put a made-up domain in koha-sites.conf if you're doing a local test installation
15:37 masoud       left the domain as ""
15:36 masoud       yes i did...
15:36 masoud       before I install for my friends library
15:36 oleonard     masoud: Did you edit koha-sites.conf as described in those instructions?
15:36 masoud       on a standalone one
15:36 masoud       i am currently testin it out
15:36 kivilahtio__ http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_new_case.cgi?product=Koha&bug=6113
15:36 kivilahtio__ like this link
15:36 masoud       don't have a domain name
15:36 kivilahtio__ so is there any standard for the "create test case" in bugzilla? Or is it enough testing if I have a test script attached in the patch?
15:35 oleonard     masoud: Did you define a domain name in koha-sites.conf?
15:35 kivilahtio__ anyway now got the one-commit-patch to bugzilla
15:34 kivilahtio__ luckily I made backups of the changes I did today, otherwise... The whole git repo got blasted under my rebases and undos and whatnot
15:34 masoud       did sudo apt-get install
15:34 masoud       went about the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
15:34 oleonard     You have to access the staff interface to complete installation
15:34 masoud       not sure if I am naive....
15:33 oleonard     You're arriving at the public interface rather than the staff interface
15:33 oleonard     masoud: What method did you use to install Koha?
15:31 masoud       with 1 GB RAM
15:31 masoud       am running a virtualbox Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
15:31 masoud       any pointers would be great
15:31 masoud       Tried googling but it didn't help
15:30 masoud       "System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance."
15:30 masoud       But I get the following error on http://localhost
15:30 masoud       I am trying to setup my library
15:29 masoud       I just finished installing Koha on Ubuntu
15:29 wahanui      que tal, masoud
15:29 masoud       Hi
15:27 kf           bye all
15:26 jcamins      kivilahtio__: ^^
15:26 wahanui      git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
15:26 jcamins      git-bz?
15:26 jcamins      git-bz
15:26 jcamins      kivilahtio__: ^^
15:26 wahanui      i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
15:26 jcamins      git?
15:24 kf           hm maybe wrong phrase... but it gets really easy
15:24 kf           after a while
15:24 kf           it gets to be your second nature
15:24 * kf         too
15:20 oleonard     I'm not a hardcore Linux geek, but with some experience I'm a happy command-line git user
15:20 oleonard     I don't find I have a need for GUI tools
15:17 kivilahtio__ I mean the GUI tools
15:17 kivilahtio__ I guess nothing works with git-bz
15:16 kivilahtio__ do you use hard-core terminal for your git needs? or are the graphical git tools suitable for our use?
15:15 kivilahtio__ git is hard :(
14:54 oleonard     vfernandes: I don' t know much more than that. Are you asking because Zebra is not ignoring something it should?
14:54 oleonard     vfernandes: You don't define stopwords in Koha if you're using Zebra.
14:43 vfernandes   how to define stopwords in 3.10?
14:43 vfernandes   hi again...
14:37 kivilahtio__ oleonard: OK, I'l look into that
14:37 kivilahtio__ oleonard: I am VERY new to git
14:37 oleonard     git rebase -i [origin/master]
14:37 oleonard     kivilahtio__: You can use an interactive rebase to squash them together
14:36 kivilahtio__ oleonard: they don't need to, but I separated the test cases to a separate commit, but I can merge the other 4
14:36 oleonard     Do your 5 commits need to be separate? Can you squash them into one?
14:36 kivilahtio__ do I need to merge my commits into one big commit? or can I somehow attach the whole branch?
14:35 kivilahtio__ OK I got the git bz working, but how do I send my 5 commits inside branch bug_6113 to bugzilla. Using git bz 6113 <Commit_hash> just overwrites my attachements in bugzilla as their commit description header is the same
14:32 oleonard     In the US the Google Doodle is celebrating the anniversary of Yosemite National Park, which will be closed because of the shutdown.
14:31 tcohen       i hope the same
14:30 oleonard     The last time this happened (almost 20 years ago) it didn't end well for the conservatives. I hope history repeats itself.
14:29 oleonard     ..party won't blink
14:29 oleonard     Hopefully the "liberal"
14:29 oleonard     tcohen: No, the conservative party will just make everyone suffer for a while
14:28 tcohen       [off] will the US get bankrupt?
14:27 tcohen       [off] wtf
14:26 oleonard     Oh nice, it deletes the item and biblio record even if the hold is marked waiting
14:18 kf           oleonard: maybe we need to make sure it uses the right sub to cancel the reserve instead of just deleting it
14:18 oleonard     Yes
14:18 kf           oleonard: is that item batch delete?
14:18 kf           [off] http://loc.gov
14:17 oleonard     Looks like the script checks for  allocated holds but nothing else if I understand it correctly
14:17 kf           sounds like a bug
14:17 kf           oleonard: ew.
14:07 oleonard     Not in master either.
14:04 oleonard     In 3.10.x anyway it doesn't look like they're moved to oldreserves
14:01 oleonard     anyone know off the top of their heads what happens to holds on items which are batch-deleted?
13:45 kivilahtio__ kf: Ok, thanks. I try to gz this branch to bugzilla then
13:45 kf           that shoudl also have worked
13:45 kf           there is a test bug somewhere if you want to test
13:44 kf           ok :)
13:44 kivilahtio__ hmm, I didn't    "git checkout -b bug_xxxx origin/master"   instead i did "git checkout -b Bug_6113"    and hacked away
13:43 kivilahtio__ kf: I'll let you know what happens :)
13:43 kivilahtio__ kf: now I need to understand this git bz.
13:42 kivilahtio__ kf: ok, so I have a branch named Bug_6113, which has several commits, each commit start with the bugzilla header.
13:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
13:42 oleonard     *cough* Bug 10309 *cough*
13:40 kf           for really big developments there have been branches on mostly personal or company repos in the past - but normally it works with patches on the bug
13:39 kf           I or someone else from the QA team will get your patches from there after they are signed off :)
13:39 kivilahtio__ interesting. I forget what I read.
13:38 magnuse      oops
13:38 samueld      Qa6DrtPH
13:38 wahanui      patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
13:38 kf           patch workflow?
13:38 kf           arg wahanui.
13:38 wahanui      git bz is, like, git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git
13:38 kf           git bz?
13:38 kf           take a look at git bz?
13:38 kf           it's all done via bugzilla
13:38 kf           you don't push
13:37 kivilahtio__ kf: yeah I got the workflow but where do I push for QA?
13:37 kf           a step by step test plan is what is expected, best in the commit message
13:37 kf           then if the tester says it's ok, qa does tet, and then the RM might push it ;)
13:37 kf           you create your patches and put them on a bug, then switch the status to "needs signoff" and a tester will take a look
13:36 kf           kivilahtio__: noone can push to master apart from the RM
13:36 kivilahtio__ Any guidelines for that?
13:36 kivilahtio__ And how do I define tests in bugzilla?
13:35 kivilahtio__ so who do I send mail to to be able to push to master?
13:33 mtompset     qa++
13:20 huginn       oleonard: Karma for "qa" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4.
13:20 oleonard     @karma qa
13:18 magnuse      qa++ always!
13:18 oleonard     QA++
13:18 oleonard     Joubu++
13:18 oleonard     kf++
13:10 oleonard     mtompset: Also: Try running chatzilla standalone with xulrunner
13:10 oleonard     Hopefully an improvement mtompset: http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/10/01/memshrink-progress-week-117-120/
13:08 mtompset     Silly Firefox update.
13:07 mtompset     Greetings again, #koha.
13:04 kivilahtio__ jcamins: I give up! :)
13:03 Joubu        kf: Hi!
13:02 kivilahtio__ jcamins: from Zebra?
13:02 kivilahtio__ jcamins: So there is no way to fetch the exact record if i know the biblionumber?
13:02 kivilahtio__ jcamins: ok this zebra thing is a pain
12:59 kf           Joubu: around? :)
12:57 jcamins      I believe that works, though I'm not sure I have tried.
12:56 jcamins      You can use Test::Deep.
12:56 kivilahtio__ jcamins: well I feel the tests wouldnt be so accurate. No better way to make sure marc records match than compare them character to character?
12:55 jcamins      If you can avoid any tests requiring Zebra, I recommend that route.
12:55 jcamins      But be aware that testing Zebra is kinda unpleasant.
12:55 kivilahtio__ thanks
12:55 kivilahtio__ jcamins: figures :D
12:55 jcamins      kivilahtio__: take a look at t/db_dependent/Search.t.
12:55 kivilahtio__ would like to compare those results. Are they comparable? Any ideas how to compare the sameness of bibliographic records?
12:54 kivilahtio__ any idea how I can get the MARCXML back from zebra which I added using C4::Biblio::AddBiblio?
12:54 kivilahtio__ I am writing test cases for my patch
12:48 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard. :)
12:48 mtompset     tcohen! Good morning. :)
12:45 tcohen       morning #koha
12:18 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:15 Oak          later guys
12:02 magnuse      Barrc1: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2013-September/039810.html
12:00 magnuse      Barrc1: is it similar to the issue eythian brought up on the mailing list?
11:41 vfernandes   thanks kf
11:40 jcamins      Barrc1: yeah, I had a feeling.
11:40 vfernandes   renewal period is empty :D
11:40 vfernandes   omg!
11:38 kf           and check there is a correct renewal period set in your circulation matrix
11:38 Barrc1       apache requests, as opposed to other types!
11:38 kf           check usedaysmode or similar for how the renewal date is calculated
11:38 kf           or the circulation conditions
11:38 Barrc1       The IP of the end users
11:38 Barrc1       yes, all the requests originate from the same source IP
11:38 kf           your systempreferences
11:37 kf           yes
11:37 vfernandes   kf any idea why this is happening?
11:37 Barrc1       I was thinking if there was something in Koha spawning these but it is starting to look like a remote issue - caused by users or user requests
11:37 jcamins      Exact same URL?
11:36 Barrc1       yeah, all the same, all with the exact same timestamp, down to ms - so strange
11:35 vfernandes   the checkout calculates the due date correctly, but when I renew the due_date is the same as the renew date (today)
11:35 jcamins      I guess you have access logs, so the first question is whether the incoming IP is exactly the same.
11:35 wahanui      the problem is probably it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
11:35 kf           vfernandes: what's the problem?
11:34 vfernandes   i'm having a problem with koha 3.12 renewals
11:34 Barrc1       Its a small enough setup. Virtual box with iptables running on it......nothing if front - unless the datacenter are doing something
11:34 vfernandes   hi :)
11:32 jcamins      I'm not suggesting you add one. I'm suggesting that the one you have is screwed up.
11:31 Barrc1       Yeah, looks like it might be something to try!
11:29 jcamins      Barrc1: I was thinking of a firewall in front of the server.
11:27 Barrc1       is that what you mean?
11:27 Barrc1       Is there a firewall on the box?
11:27 jcamins      Firewall?
11:26 Barrc1       jcamins: The strange thing is the timestamp is exactly the same for all connections
11:25 Barrc1       well, maybe multiple hundreds, rather than 1000's!
11:25 jcamins      Barrc1: impatient users.
11:25 Barrc1       After the crash the kern log shows 1000s of connection being initiated at the same time then, theny Mysql splats!
11:25 Barrc1       kivilahtio_: Yep, I will do. Just thought some might have an quick idea!
11:24 kf           Barrc1: could it be users? double clicking trying again and again?
11:23 kivilahtio__ Barrc1: wow that is a big guestion. Maybe you should ask the mailing list?
11:22 Barrc1       opac-search.pl too..........outside of an attack!
11:22 Barrc1       Would anyone have any idea why a Koha instance would spawn multiple opac-user.pl sessions, enough to crash a server!?
11:14 mtompset     sophie_m: Actually, I was thinking that perhaps I should look into the reindexing method that tcohen has been pushing.
11:13 sophie_m     mtompset : we've got a script to avoid multiple rebuild_zebra running in the case you describe
11:10 mtompset     If there are too many records in the table, I suspect that the 5 minute interval for reindexing ends up clobbering the former instance attempting to reindex.
11:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, CLOSED FIXED, Checking if DB records are properly indexed
11:09 mtompset     By deleting everything from the zebraqueue table, and restarting the script in bug 6566, our indexing is slowly rebuilding.
11:08 mtompset     I didn't have a permissions problem or a directory problem. My problem is we are running in VERY LOW MEMORY situation.
11:03 paxed        magnuse: i know, but i find it funny the translation contains Template Toolkit code.
11:00 kivilahtio__ rebuild_zebra.pl hen rebuilds then broken directory structure
10:59 kivilahtio__ hmm, removing all the directories under var/lib/zebradb/authorities && biblios  seems to have fixed my zebra issues regarding biblios not getting removed from zebra...
10:48 mtompset     Woo hoo! It continues to reindex properly as far as I can tell. YAY! In a few hours, my indexing nightmare will be gone.
10:39 magnuse      just copy it
10:33 paxed        ehheh. msgid "[% description |html %]"
10:09 paxed        it was a comment on the tool, not the process.
10:08 kf           you learn and improve all the time
10:08 kf           translation is an iterative process I think
10:06 paxed        lovely.
10:06 kf           i think many people ignore it or forget it
10:05 kf           it shows it with a red underline
10:01 paxed        i wonder if pootle makes it hard for translators to see if there's a space at the end of the string or not? i need to fix dozens and dozens or translated strings that do not have space at the end when the msgid has space.
09:58 kf           I just checked
09:58 kf           German umlauts display correctly on the cir ctab
09:57 kf           hm that's strange
09:51 paxed        kf: all the other prefs "panes" show the utf8 chars correctly
09:51 paxed        kf: http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/kohautf8.png
09:43 wahanui      search faq is http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
09:43 kf           search faq?
09:43 kf           there is also search faq?
09:43 kf           is there any error? when you run with -r?
09:43 kf           recommend even
09:43 kf           hm i would not recomment removing files
09:39 kivilahtio__ maybe removing /var/lib/zebradb/biblios will do the trick ;)
09:38 kivilahtio__ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b -a -v
09:37 kivilahtio__ hmm, I cannot clear my zebra database
09:36 kf           where do you see a problem?
09:36 kf           paxed: hm it works fine for me
09:21 paxed        hm. preferences.pl?tab=circulation  apparently can't do utf8
09:12 kivilahtio__ kf: dont sweat it, no rpoblem, you have been very kind as it is
09:12 kf           I am covered with QA currently... and my nrmal work
09:12 kf           I won't have any time I am afraid
09:11 kivilahtio__ kf: you can check it out later if you want
09:11 kivilahtio__ kf: well i can get my patch ready today
09:11 kivilahtio__ validate the biblioitemnumber and biblionumber in the C4-modules
09:11 kf           whta are you trying to do?
09:10 kivilahtio__ agreed :D
09:10 wahanui      libraries are the kings of overcomplication
09:10 kivilahtio__ or libraries?
09:10 kivilahtio__ do you have any validator utility classes?
07:53 kivilahtio__ magnuse: got that
07:53 magnuse      well, .pl and .pm have POD
07:52 magnuse      ...as far as i know
07:52 magnuse      .pl scripts have embedded POD, only the commands provided by the packages have separate man pages (maintained in docbook)
07:51 kivilahtio__ kf: my mistake
07:51 kivilahtio__ kf: Ah here in the end
07:51 wahanui      i guess manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
07:51 kf           manual?
07:51 kf           or do you mean something that was noted in the manual?
07:50 kf           so you would send a patch
07:50 kf           they are in the file I think
07:50 kivilahtio__ ok how do I change the documentation in Koha? Mainly interested in where the man files for bulkmarcimport.pl are?
07:49 paxed        8 bits can only store values in the range of 0-255, or if you use signed bit, -128 - 127   ...
07:49 kf           i am not going to deny that :)
07:49 kivilahtio__ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEOLPDOKdtY
07:48 kf           just saying, translating is boring
07:48 * magnuse    neither
07:48 kf           ok, i didn't get that one :)
07:48 kivilahtio__ lol
07:48 paxed        oh, i'm hoping to get underflow soon, i'm 8bit.
07:47 kf           we can try to help you, but if you are negative about it it won't get easier
07:47 magnuse      yeah, those are the easy ones
07:46 kf           just copy it
07:46 paxed        as an example.
07:46 paxed        msgid "%s %s (%s) %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s ["   <-- this is the reason i'm cranky.
07:45 rangi        you just like complaining?
07:45 paxed        i have no problem with the po-file format.
07:45 rangi        you mean the .po files?
07:43 magnuse      um, you should not have to look inside the files unless you make some mistake in matching up the %s's
07:42 paxed        the translation files are hostile. i can't imagine trying to translate those without any coding experience.
07:34 kf           i normally trnaslate with pootle and then use poedit to double check the files for errors
07:34 kf           i think i tmight be one of the filters
07:33 paxed        kf: what about those who use pootle, does that complain about missing %s too?
07:31 paxed        magnuse: ah, that helps. thanks.
07:30 magnuse      paxed: tried running with -v too?
07:29 kf           and most of the time it's multiple files
07:28 paxed        magnuse: git, manually.
07:28 kf           what would the file help you?
07:28 paxed        yes, i know. it could still say which file.
07:28 magnuse      ?
07:28 magnuse      paxed: which version and how are you running the translate script
07:28 kf           and you can search easily with that
07:28 kf           it will give you the string
07:28 paxed        the translation script doesn't tell which file it's doing.
07:27 kf           and output the string
07:27 kf           if you run thte translation scripts, it will also give you a warning
07:27 kf           if you use poedit it will give you ar warn on saving
07:27 wahanui      Send a patch!
07:27 rangi        be rangi
07:27 kf           hm that's not true
07:26 paxed        also, a missing %s in a translation string breaking a page completely, and not even giving any hint which translation string it is .... a big no-no in my book.
07:26 kf           maybe stop calling it 'this thing' in that case ;)
07:26 kivilahtio__ paxed: we will :)
07:25 kivilahtio__ good morning kf
07:24 paxed        kf: i'm just trying to translate this thing, no idea if we're going to use it.
07:24 magnuse      kia ora kf
07:23 kf           good morning #koha
07:23 kf           if you don't like it improve it ;)
07:17 paxed        *grmbl* translatable strings "There are ", "no libraries defined", "no patron categories defined"  that's just lovely.
07:08 wahanui      maybe is a momentaneous error
07:08 dcook        Maybe...
07:08 * dcook      is starting to get addicted enough to these endorphins that he might actually use the gym facilities at the Atlantis
07:08 dcook        All right. Gym time!
07:01 dcook        But I wouldn't use them
07:01 dcook        Maybe preserve biblionumbers from an old system in a local field
06:59 magnuse      and let me just say that preserving biblionumbers from an old system sounds like a bad idea
06:58 kivilahtio__ magnuse: good point
06:57 huginn       Oak: The operation succeeded.
06:57 Oak          @later tell mtompset http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24292-first-physical-evidence-of-why-youre-an-owl-or-a-lark.html
06:56 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
06:56 mtompset     I think I'm going to get more than 2 hours sleep. :)
06:56 Oak          okay mtompset :)
06:56 Oak          magnuse++
06:55 mtompset     Some place just outside of Ottawa with a bunch of old guys who like playing hockey.
06:55 magnuse      kivilahtio__: bug 9921 is about forcing the biblionumber into 001, not making what is in 001 be the biblionumber
06:54 dcook        Naturally, it's about hockey :p
06:54 dcook        magnuse: Looks like someone already has koha.ca
06:54 mtompset     vserver--
06:54 mtompset     Oak: Our VM environment doesn't let me touch /dev, even if I am root. I hate vserver!
06:53 dcook        magnuse++
06:53 kivilahtio__ then I can just make a dirty hack to get our biblinumber preserved
06:53 kivilahtio__ so someone is currently working on that bug?
06:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Patch doesn't apply , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber
06:53 kivilahtio__ see bug 9921
06:51 samueld      hi everybody
06:50 * magnuse    renews the koha.no domain
06:49 Oak          whole page preferably
06:49 Oak          mtompset, I have little knowledge of what you were doing earlier... but just thought it may help you or improve your understanding by reading this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Btrfs#Copy-On-Write_.28CoW.29
06:46 magnuse      khall had a moment of enlightenment and bolted from #koha? ;-)
06:43 huginn       cait: khall was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <khall> Ah, I see. Thanks!
06:43 cait         @seen khall
06:43 huginn       cait: khall_away was last seen in #koha 19 weeks, 0 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <khall_away> happy bday rangi!
06:43 cait         @seen khall_away
06:41 dcook        Windows is 20gb alone
06:40 dcook        83 gb used
06:40 dcook        Good lord...what's running on this beast..
06:40 dcook        Thanks for the reminder ;)
06:40 dcook        Hard drive size
06:39 magnuse      install ubuntu?
06:38 * dcook      stares at the Windows 8 start menu and tries to remember what he was trying to do
06:38 dcook        Indeed
06:37 mtompset     ^help but^help but love^?
06:36 dcook        rangi is like a cat. It might hiss and scratch at you, but you can't help but them :p
06:35 reiveune     hello
06:35 rangi        i totally judge people
06:34 cait         hehe not so bad
06:34 dcook        Good to know
06:33 mtompset     Seriously?! Such a judgmental crowd? :P
06:33 dcook        lol
06:33 cait         you might get glares bringing a windows machine to kohacon... ;)
06:33 mtompset     2GB netbook running 32-bit Ubuntu.
06:33 cait         dcook: make sure you turn the starting sound of windows off somehow...
06:32 mtompset     dcook: Welcome to my 11 months in the Philippines in 2012. :P
06:32 dcook        Even the VM I have on this desktop is pretty crap
06:32 dcook        And I don't think the memory is so hot on this laptop
06:31 dcook        Although I'm not sure how much hard drive space I have
06:30 dcook        But that's not a bad idea...
06:30 magnuse      ah
06:30 * magnuse    would definitely go the virtualbox route if he was tied to a windows box during the hackfest
06:30 dcook        I'm still going to want to have a hand in the kitchen back here :p
06:29 mtompset     If this is a windows box, why not VirtualBox and set up putty and a few other useful tools?
06:29 mtompset     Remote connection? Why do you need a remote connection?
06:28 dcook        The remote connection is pretty slow though
06:28 dcook        Yarp
06:28 magnuse      “From Librarian to Developer in 90 Minutes” - that sounds like fun!
06:28 mtompset     Won't you have a laptop brought with you?
06:27 mtompset     dcook: What do you mean "trying to figure out how..."?
06:26 magnuse      catalyst++
06:25 dcook        magnuse: I suppose that's an option
06:25 dcook        rangi: That sounds nice :)
06:25 dcook        hehe
06:25 rangi        dcook: opposite here, you have to get special permission (like you work on the QA or design team) to have a windows machine :)
06:24 dcook        Trying to figure out how I'm going to work at Kohacon..
06:24 magnuse      run linux off a usb?
06:24 dcook        Work laptop though
06:24 dcook        Yeah, I'm not digging the proprietary OSes so much these days
06:23 pastebot     "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "BAM! Zebra is working. :)" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
06:21 magnuse      hehe
06:20 rangi        you people and your proprietary OSes
06:17 mtompset     Added about 400+ records in 5 minutes, and then suddenly only 20+ records not done. :)
06:17 mtompset     YAY! I think it is working. I think it may limp to completion!
06:13 mtompset     cleared that up... let's see if I can get it to limp to completion now.
06:13 mtompset     okay... > 172K records in the zebraqueue.
06:06 mtompset     still bad, but better.
06:06 mtompset     8.1 is better.
06:06 cait         why would you do that to a laptop btw?
06:06 cait         i guess it's slow?
06:06 cait         heh
06:03 dcook        Wait, I don't wear a watch...
06:03 * dcook      looks at his watch
06:03 dcook        Oh...has my user finally been created?
06:03 * dcook      looks at the laptop
06:03 dcook        Windows 8 is horrible...
05:58 huginn       dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
05:58 dcook        @karma windows8
05:57 dcook        ...
05:56 huginn       dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
05:56 dcook        @karma windows8
05:55 huginn       dcook: Karma for "windows8" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
05:55 dcook        @karma windows8
05:49 Oak          welcome
05:49 cait         thank you
05:49 Oak          :)
05:49 cait         oh hi Oak :)
05:49 Oak          here, have some cookies.
05:49 * Oak        hugs cait
05:49 * Oak        waves back
05:43 magnuse      DELETE FROM zebraqueue;?
05:41 * magnuse    waves
05:22 mtompset     I mean empty?
05:22 mtompset     Is there a way to dump the zebraqueue?
05:20 mtompset     The problem is... there is no log that clearly states consistently, "Processed killed" or anything like that. :(
05:11 mtompset     Thankfully, this is the QA system.
05:11 mtompset     And I am hoping that my library colleagues will agree to moving the hosting from our painful 512MB VM to a much nicer 1GB VM elsewhere for less money. :)
05:10 mtompset     -- hello, Oak. :)
05:10 mtompset     So I have a partial reindex, but not full.
05:10 mtompset     because it adds about 13K more records, but then has been looping doing the same amount over and over.
05:09 mtompset     I suspect with a larger data set, even this script's zebra queue method is hitting that same problem.
05:08 mtompset     can't remember what that is called, but linux has a way of detecting something that is going to result in massive deadlock and it auto kills it.
05:08 mtompset     turns out the system is killing the process.
05:08 mtompset     barfs (as expected)
05:07 mtompset     koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library
05:07 mtompset     Ran the full reindex properly.
05:07 mtompset     via mysqldump.
05:07 mtompset     I got the data in... painfully long to do.
05:07 mtompset     512MB of ram with no swap space.
05:06 mtompset     larger data set.
05:06 mtompset     NOW...
05:06 mtompset     basically called the script -c -z, sleep 360, and then loop again. manually break when it doesn't add any more.
05:05 mtompset     I had to do a few passes to complete, but it worked.
05:05 mtompset     (on a smaller data set)
05:05 mtompset     -- which worked in the past.
05:05 mtompset     to insert records into the zebra queue.
05:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, CLOSED FIXED, Checking if DB records are properly indexed
05:05 mtompset     so then I use bug 6566
05:04 mtompset     so only partial reindex is done.
05:04 mtompset     it barfs.
05:04 mtompset     try the full reindex.
05:04 mtompset     looks good.
05:04 mtompset     ps aux | grep zebra
05:04 mtompset     so everything is running properly.
05:04 mtompset     okay... reboot server.
05:02 dcook        So at what stage isn't it reindexing?
05:01 mtompset     zebra isn't croaked.
05:01 Oak          hello mtompset
05:01 Oak          Ahoy dcook
05:00 dcook        I know you were mentioning it the other day, but does Zebra croak?
04:59 dcook        What's up?
04:59 mtompset     dcook: Yes.
04:59 * dcook      waves to Oak and ebegin
04:59 dcook        mtompset: Still having issues?
04:18 * Oak        waves
04:08 mtompset     I can't get my data reindexed. GRRRRRR.
04:03 dcook        But I've had enough people complain about 7 to say 7 :p
04:03 dcook        I think 7 is becomingn rarer...so you might be able to get away with 8
04:03 dcook        I think some people still use 6 but they're quite rare
04:02 * dcook      would suggest 7
04:00 wizzyrea     hey um. for new theme development, if one were going to do that, what version of IE would we want to support (lowest)
03:12 rambutan     s all
03:12 rambutan     that'
03:12 jcamins      Ah.
03:11 huginn       rambutan: The operation succeeded.
03:11 rambutan     @later tell jcamins Somehow when I'm logged on at home it holds the nick even after it's been kicked.
03:11 jcamins      rambutan: I'll be leaving in a few minutes, but what's up?
03:11 huginn       rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 50 minutes and 54 seconds ago: <jcamins> Heh.
03:11 rambutan     @seen jcamins
02:31 jeff         dbs++
02:31 * jeff       grins
02:29 dcook        Good work with both :)
02:29 dcook        dbs: I put two and two together after a little bit of perusing ;)
02:23 dbs          dcook: glad that the RDFa makes you happy; also, the LoC mirrors at http://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/ happen to be mine too :)
02:21 wizzyrea     well I know ok in bootstrap
02:21 wizzyrea     but I think ok in bootstrap
02:21 wizzyrea     right nav and bottom nav
02:21 wizzyrea     actually most of the new nav preferences are messed up in ccsr.
02:20 jcamins      Heh.
02:20 wizzyrea     meh it is.
02:19 jcamins      wizzyrea: if you're patching it for the customer's staging server yes, otherwise, meh.
02:17 wizzyrea     such as "opacnavright messes up login box in ccsr"
02:17 wizzyrea     in ccsr
02:17 wizzyrea     just wondering if I should be fixing bugs
02:17 wizzyrea     and is responsive in the same way
02:17 wizzyrea     the bootstrap one looks pretty much just like it
02:17 dcook        Oh? That didn't seem very long lived
02:16 wizzyrea     we are retiring ccsr in favor of bootstrap soon eh?
02:02 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml
02:02 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field
02:02 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search
02:02 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10879 normal, P5 - low, ---, pianohacker, NEW , OverDrive should check for OverDriveLibraryID before performing search
02:02 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add preference for naming OverDrive collection
02:02 rangi        @query overdrive
01:07 * dcook      notes that the time is only 11am in Sydney..
01:03 * dcook      pictures metalheads in tuxes holding wine glasses
01:03 dcook        wine wacken?
01:03 wizzyrea     beer wacken sounds less funny.
01:02 dcook        Yeah, I think it's beer
01:02 wizzyrea     that it is.
01:01 wahanui      i guess beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.
01:01 wizzyrea     beer?
01:01 * wizzyrea   tries to remember what the chemical alteration substance of choice is for metalheads.
01:01 eythian      Metal != Reggae
01:00 wizzyrea     suppose that gives a different meaning to weed wacken
01:00 eythian      Wacken is a place in Germany with a huge annual metal festival.
00:59 wahanui      yes. that is probably what we are doing now. if we have more patrons then it becomes tough.
00:59 wizzyrea     yes. that.
00:59 wizzyrea     whacker?
00:59 wizzyrea     i hope that means he's gotten out his weed wacker and fought his way out of the weeds.
00:56 jeff         made a customer happy. :-)
00:54 jcamins      jeff: what did they do this time?
00:44 jeff         gmcharlt++ esi++
00:07 dcook        Hmm, I like your way better ;)
00:07 dcook        Doesn't look like it, but that's pretty cool
00:07 rangi        :)
00:07 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
00:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
00:07 rangi        @query rdfa
00:07 dcook        bug 6594
00:07 rangi        im not sure if it got picked back
00:06 rangi        it will be in 3.14
00:06 dcook        Has that made it into a release or is just in master?
00:05 dcook        Progress is awesome
00:04 dcook        dbs++
00:04 rangi        dcook: its dbs, in here :)
00:04 jcamins      dbs++
00:03 dcook        Good one, dan scott. Wherever you are!
00:03 dcook        Well, maybe not killed...
00:03 dcook        I would've killed for RDFa on some government sites a few months ago
00:03 rangi        dcook: courtesy of dan scott
00:03 dcook        Sweet
00:03 jcamins      Yeah.
00:03 dcook        Courtesy of master XSLTs?
00:02 jcamins      http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?q=http%3A%2F%2Fkohadev.cpbibliography.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkoha%2Fopac-detail.pl%3Fbiblionumber%3D24433
00:01 jcamins      You'll need to try it on recent master.
00:01 jcamins      Cool, eh?
00:00 jcamins      Yeah.
00:00 dcook        http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets
00:00 dcook        ?