| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:12 |
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dcook |
Downside of touchscreens... |
| 00:13 |
|
dcook |
Trying to input passwords that you only remember through muscle memory is a real pain... |
| 00:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
oy. |
| 00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
the NSA isn't on furlough. |
| 00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
NSA is still operational. |
| 00:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
They are considered "essential" |
| 00:19 |
|
dcook |
The military is also still being paid |
| 00:36 |
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| 01:13 |
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banana |
Aaron O. - online? |
| 01:13 |
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dcook |
... |
| 02:05 |
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* dcook |
pokes Xchat |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
Be good. |
| 02:08 |
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| 02:26 |
|
* eythian |
now wonders who Aaron O. is. |
| 02:27 |
|
rangi |
hmm? |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
<banana> Aaron O. - online? |
| 02:28 |
|
rangi |
ahh :) |
| 02:28 |
|
* wizzyrea |
wonders who banana is |
| 02:29 |
|
jcamins |
rambutan |
| 02:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah |
| 02:32 |
|
rangi |
hmm tweetbot is broken again |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
nah, it's a glitch in the matrix |
| 02:41 |
|
tcohen |
how can I administer some eye drops to my cat Florencio? |
| 02:42 |
|
jcamins |
tcohen: sedative? |
| 02:42 |
|
jcamins |
Chain mail? |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Two person team? |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
One person wrap him in a towel and hold him close to their body |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Person two hold eye dropper and eyelids |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
put the cat in a pillowcase |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
head out |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
or |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
use the binder clip trick |
| 02:43 |
|
dcook |
Binder clip trick? That sounds horrible |
| 02:43 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, yeah, the binder clip trick is a good one. |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t1XPYVbsSo |
| 02:45 |
|
tcohen |
i guess the two person team should work |
| 02:45 |
|
dcook |
That is horrifying...yet intriguing... |
| 02:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol. |
| 02:46 |
|
tcohen |
florencio doesn't surrender to the clip trick |
| 02:46 |
|
tcohen |
(not always) |
| 02:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
mom cats carry their babies like that, kitties know to go limp when pinched in that way |
| 02:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
florencio is a good name for a cat |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
Admittedly, I haven't had to use eye droppers, but we usually wrap Starbuck in a towel to incapacitate his limbs, then that person holding the towel holds him close and the other person gives him meds |
| 02:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think, if it worked well on your cat, the amount of time that the clip is on probably is less irritating for the cat than the procedure being administered. |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, good point, wizzyrea |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
Starbuck is a little stress ball... |
| 02:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
I had a cat with poor rear end hygiene, to wash her rear we had to put the front end in a pillowcase |
| 02:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
so she couldn't see the water. |
| 02:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
and that seemed to go fine. |
| 02:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
since you need front end access though, that wouldn't work for you |
| 02:49 |
|
tcohen |
i've just read that some people suggest to do it from behind, gently moving his head up |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
We used something similar when giving pills |
| 02:52 |
|
dcook |
Plus the towel for good measure :p |
| 02:52 |
|
dcook |
Did the vet give you any tips? |
| 02:53 |
|
tcohen |
they told us to use a towel |
| 02:53 |
|
rangi |
someone tweet something else |
| 02:53 |
|
rangi |
im bored of that highlighting all the time |
| 02:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol. |
| 03:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
there you go. |
| 03:02 |
|
dcook |
! |
| 03:02 |
|
dcook |
That's awesome! |
| 03:02 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea++ |
| 03:02 |
|
* dcook |
would be keen to hear more about that |
| 03:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
bug 10944 >.> needs signoff even! |
| 03:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Mixed content warnings in opac results and detail with Amazon images on https |
| 03:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
and that doesn't fix it in the user pages, I'm getting ready to do that work now |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
Hmm... |
| 03:05 |
|
dcook |
How long ago did we start using "using_https"? |
| 03:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
i think it is not in 3.8 |
| 03:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
3.10 probably |
| 03:05 |
|
dcook |
Tabarnac.. |
| 03:06 |
|
dcook |
I imagine that one might be sandboxable though.. |
| 03:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
if the sandboxen use https |
| 03:06 |
|
dcook |
Right, that would make a difference |
| 03:06 |
|
dcook |
Durr |
| 03:07 |
|
dcook |
Ah, but you give good instructions |
| 03:09 |
|
dcook |
On that note, I should grab lunch |
| 03:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
ping mtj |
| 03:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
question for anyone really |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
is there a preference on ssl images, that we use using_https or simply replace standard content with https content where we can |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
afaik there is no harm in calling an https image in a page that isn't secured |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
and you'll avoid the mixed content warnings (and get the lock) if you *are* using ssl... |
| 03:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
the fixes are easier if we don't have to check for using_https - I don't mind either way |
| 03:49 |
|
dcook |
That's probably an eythian question |
| 03:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I asked him :) |
| 03:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
I wanted to know if there were generally opinions about this |
| 03:50 |
|
dcook |
As far as I know, there's no reason not to use the images via SSL |
| 03:50 |
|
dcook |
I think the speed might be diminished a little bit but probably not by much |
| 03:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
speed is the only thing I could think of |
| 03:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
ff23 greatly increases the amount of checking firefox does on such things |
| 03:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
re: http images/things in https pages. |
| 03:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
(of course people who are up to date are running 24 now) |
| 03:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
i am honestly surprised that we don't see more complaints |
| 03:53 |
|
eythian |
I'm not sure how many people routinely deploy https |
| 03:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
maybe a lot of people just set the exceptions and/or live with a broken web |
| 03:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
IE trains people to do that. |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Or don't use https |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
IE...*shudders* |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, gnome3 doesn't look right on the laptop... |
| 03:58 |
|
dcook |
Nowhere near as fancy as my desktop at home.. |
| 03:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
video drivers? |
| 03:59 |
|
* dcook |
thinks so |
| 03:59 |
|
dcook |
It says it's the "fallback" experience |
| 03:59 |
|
dcook |
Which is probably why it looks more like gnome2 |
| 04:00 |
|
dcook |
I had the same thing happen on the VM I have on this desktop at work |
| 04:04 |
|
dcook |
Oh well. Maybe I'll play around when I'm bored at the airport. |
| 04:04 |
|
dcook |
Hmm the Google snippet for git.koha-community.org says git.koha.org |
| 04:05 |
|
dcook |
As the title |
| 04:10 |
|
eythian |
how odd |
| 04:11 |
|
rangi |
mtj: your bot is broked |
| 04:12 |
|
dcook |
Only 24 minutes to fly from Vancouver to Victoria... |
| 04:12 |
|
* dcook |
goes and actually has lunch this time |
| 04:12 |
|
jcamins |
Didn't dcook say he was going to have lunch several hours ago, back when it was still a reasonable hour for me to go to bed? |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 04:27 |
|
eythian |
@later tell mtj your twitterbot is bust |
| 04:27 |
|
huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:34 |
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| 04:34 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:54 |
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| 04:59 |
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* dcook |
hopes that jcamins is sleeping by now |
| 05:00 |
|
dcook |
tweetbot_, I think you're a bit of a broken record, eh? |
| 05:14 |
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| 06:12 |
|
* dcook |
wonders if someone should just kick that bot... |
| 06:15 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:16 |
|
dcook |
hey ya magnuse :) |
| 06:16 |
|
* dcook |
didn't realize it was already that time of day ;) |
| 06:17 |
|
dcook |
I ended up downloading Virtualbox and installing Wheezy on the laptop |
| 06:17 |
|
dcook |
Just need to download git bz, gitify, install Koha, and I'll be all ready :D |
| 06:22 |
|
magnuse |
hiya dcook |
| 06:22 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
| 06:23 |
|
dcook |
I love that moment when you want to follow someone on Twitter and then you realize that you've actually been following them for ages :p |
| 06:24 |
|
magnuse |
hehe, sounds familiar |
| 06:27 |
|
* magnuse |
needs a new main pc |
| 06:28 |
|
dcook |
Needs or wants? :p |
| 06:29 |
|
magnuse |
needs! definitely |
| 06:29 |
|
* dcook |
wants a fancy new monitor for his home pc...although he rarely uses it... |
| 06:29 |
|
dcook |
Maybe another laptop to increase the number of computers in the house |
| 06:29 |
|
magnuse |
i'm wasting too much time waiting for this one to figure things out |
| 06:30 |
|
dcook |
Time for a new computer! :D |
| 06:30 |
|
dcook |
On a related note, are you going to Kohacon, magnuse? |
| 06:30 |
|
dcook |
I noticed you're a sponsor but I couldn't remember if you were coming |
| 06:30 |
|
magnuse |
no, i get to stay at home |
| 06:30 |
|
magnuse |
but i have sposnsored a little, yes |
| 06:31 |
|
magnuse |
so y'all gotta have fun on my behalf :-) |
| 06:31 |
|
* dcook |
thinks Norway should host Kohacon15 *nod* *nod* |
| 06:31 |
|
dcook |
I'll...do something on your behalf |
| 06:31 |
|
dcook |
I was going to say have a beer, but you don't like beer, right? |
| 06:32 |
|
magnuse |
ooh, you know me well :-) |
| 06:32 |
|
magnuse |
maybe not 15, but 18 perhaps? |
| 06:32 |
|
dcook |
I might have papers scattered on my desk but my brain is a fortress! |
| 06:33 |
|
* dcook |
wonders what version of Koha will exist in 2018 |
| 06:33 |
|
dcook |
5 years...it might have wings by then |
| 06:33 |
|
* dcook |
wishes someone would've recorded people's predictions for the year 2000 |
| 06:33 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
| 06:35 |
|
magnuse |
it's weird how i'm always thinking "how could people ever use koha without this new feature?" |
| 06:36 |
|
magnuse |
wow http://www.mymodernmet.com/pro[…]rees-slope-point/ |
| 06:36 |
|
magnuse |
nz++ |
| 06:36 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 06:36 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, sometimes I wish that all of our libraries were up on 3.12 |
| 06:39 |
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| 06:39 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:45 |
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dcook |
salut reiveune |
| 06:45 |
|
dcook |
magnuse: That's wild! |
| 06:46 |
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reiveune |
salut dcook kathryn magnuse :) |
| 06:47 |
|
magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
| 06:47 |
|
rangi |
https://www.blippex.org/ |
| 06:47 |
|
rangi |
interesting |
| 06:47 |
|
wahanui |
i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 06:47 |
|
magnuse |
hm, for some reason my fingers expect xchat to do tab-complete on the word bonjour... |
| 06:47 |
|
dcook |
rangi: Is that the search engine that is getting a lot of press? |
| 06:48 |
|
* dcook |
seems to remember reading something this morning.. |
| 06:49 |
|
magnuse |
um interesting results for "koha" |
| 06:50 |
|
rangi |
dcook: http://catalyst.net.nz/node/23581 |
| 06:51 |
|
rangi |
magnuse: it learns from what people with the plugin visits |
| 06:51 |
|
dcook |
I was wondering how it was going to track dwell time |
| 06:51 |
|
dcook |
rangi: What am I looking for on this page? |
| 06:53 |
|
rangi |
if you did the postgres course |
| 06:53 |
|
rangi |
you could follow it with |
| 06:53 |
|
rangi |
https://kiwicon.org/ |
| 06:55 |
|
dcook |
Sounds cool, but I'll still be in Vancouver |
| 06:55 |
|
dcook |
Thanks for the links and the thought though :) |
| 06:56 |
|
dcook |
11 Nov will be flight hangover rather than Kiwicon hangover ;) |
| 06:56 |
|
rangi |
no worries, ill send you the link when we do the january/feb ones |
| 06:56 |
|
dcook |
Awesome. That would be great :) |
| 06:57 |
|
dcook |
The wife and I have been talking about taking a trip over to Wellington |
| 06:57 |
|
dcook |
Well, maybe NZ in general, but I have a special interest in Wellington, of course |
| 06:58 |
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| 06:59 |
|
* magnuse |
recommends nz of all his heart |
| 07:01 |
|
dcook |
It's so close! |
| 07:01 |
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| 07:01 |
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magnuse |
not for me, sadly |
| 07:01 |
|
gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:01 |
|
magnuse |
hiya gaetan_B |
| 07:02 |
|
dcook |
bonjour alex_a et gaetan_B |
| 07:02 |
|
dcook |
You're much closer to Europe though, magnuse :p |
| 07:03 |
|
magnuse |
yeah, that is true. marseille, for example ;-) |
| 07:04 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 07:04 |
|
huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 |
|
magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 07:04 |
|
huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:05 |
|
dcook |
hehe, yep |
| 07:05 |
|
dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 07:05 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 25.7°C (5:05 PM EST on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:05 |
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| 07:05 |
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dcook |
When does it usually snow in Bodo? |
| 07:06 |
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| 07:07 |
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magnuse |
it can be quite unpredictable |
| 07:07 |
|
magnuse |
last winter the snow came kind of early, maybe in november? |
| 07:07 |
|
magnuse |
but the last winters before that there was almost no snow before xmas |
| 07:08 |
|
magnuse |
so january, february, march are the most snowy months, i guess |
| 07:09 |
|
dcook |
Really? |
| 07:09 |
|
wahanui |
Really is off now |
| 07:09 |
|
dcook |
Intriguing... |
| 07:09 |
|
dcook |
That doesn't sound too bad at all |
| 07:09 |
|
* dcook |
thinks it's snowy in Canada 13 months of the year |
| 07:10 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
| 07:10 |
|
dcook |
@wunder reno, nevada |
| 07:10 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 12.4°C (12:00 AM PDT on October 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:10 |
|
magnuse |
we can have 6 months of snow, though |
| 07:10 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, maybe it is more similar than I think |
| 07:11 |
|
magnuse |
since we are on the coast, it's normal for the temperature to vary wildly from -10C to +10C through the winter |
| 07:14 |
|
magnuse |
everythin you ever wanted to know about the weather statistics for Bodø, but was afraid to ask: http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/[…]8/statistics.html |
| 07:16 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 07:19 |
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* dcook |
wishes that Canadians understood metric better |
| 07:19 |
|
dcook |
All I know is that those temperatures look pretty nice |
| 07:19 |
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magnuse |
yeah, not too bad |
| 07:19 |
|
magnuse |
thanks to the gulf stream |
| 07:23 |
|
samueld |
hi everybody |
| 07:28 |
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magnuse |
hiya samueld |
| 07:35 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:49 |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf |
| 07:54 |
|
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tweetbot_ was kicked by rangi: come back when you are fixed |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
| 08:01 |
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dcook |
Yay rangi! |
| 08:06 |
|
kf |
hi dcook |
| 08:09 |
|
dcook |
hey kf :) |
| 08:09 |
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dcook |
Hmm, apparently I have 84 people from grad school on my FB... |
| 08:10 |
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* dcook |
swears he didn't talk to that many different people during that time |
| 08:10 |
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kf |
so why did you befriend them? |
| 08:12 |
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magnuse |
it's fun? |
| 08:13 |
|
dcook |
Seemed like the thing to do at the time? |
| 08:13 |
|
dcook |
Everyone else was doing it? :p |
| 08:13 |
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kf |
aha |
| 08:13 |
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kf |
I think I don't have to say more ;) |
| 08:21 |
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rangi |
hmm i cant think of anything worse |
| 08:21 |
|
rangi |
how about instead of becoming the marc experts, we use the fact LOC is down, to move on |
| 08:22 |
|
rangi |
(re list email) |
| 08:23 |
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kf |
hmwhich one? |
| 08:24 |
|
rangi |
the main list |
| 08:24 |
|
wahanui |
i heard the main list was at http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 08:25 |
|
kf |
aah |
| 08:25 |
|
kf |
well first you pretend to be the experts an dmean well, and then you kill it |
| 08:25 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 08:25 |
|
kf |
i thought it worked like that? |
| 08:27 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, there really isn't much to be gained by becoming marc experts |
| 08:27 |
|
dcook |
Or rather... |
| 08:27 |
|
dcook |
Nothing to be gained by becoming a marc authority |
| 08:28 |
|
dcook |
Same thing, different silo |
| 08:28 |
|
dcook |
As an aside, "promise them beer, and they will come". |
| 08:29 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 08:29 |
|
* dcook |
tries to imagine a metadata schema that uses beer as an acronym |
| 08:49 |
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magnuse |
anyone attending the hackfest will be able to hear a bit about how to leave marc behind and emrace current technology |
| 08:52 |
|
magnuse |
Bibliographic Encoding and Encryption for Re-use |
| 08:55 |
|
dcook |
Nice, magnuse! |
| 08:55 |
|
dcook |
I like it ;) |
| 08:55 |
|
kf |
:) |
| 09:14 |
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| 09:24 |
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rangi |
magnuse: so we gpg encrypt each record ? :) |
| 09:24 |
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mtj |
oops, sorry about the tweetbot going crazy before everyone |
| 09:25 |
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rangi |
magnuse: actually if we could come up with another e ... gpg signing would be pretty sweet |
| 09:25 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 09:26 |
|
magnuse |
Exchange? |
| 09:27 |
|
rangi |
hmm |
| 09:28 |
|
rangi |
how about |
| 09:29 |
|
rangi |
Borrowers Encoded and Encrypt Records |
| 09:29 |
|
rangi |
Encrypted even |
| 09:29 |
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magnuse |
ooh, now we're talking |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
i'd like that |
| 09:29 |
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rangi |
where we store borrowers data encrypted with their gpg key so only they can see it |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
guess our data privacy person woudl too |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
hm ah right |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
not sure how that would work :) |
| 09:33 |
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rangi |
well it could just be as simple as we never send it to them without encrypting it first |
| 09:33 |
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rangi |
since drojf has already done that |
| 09:33 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 09:34 |
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kf |
right, sounds good... but ithink it still needs a sign off |
| 09:34 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 09:35 |
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rangi |
i was plannign to qa it, so would like someone else to sign off |
| 09:35 |
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rangi |
ive signed off too many that i now cant qa |
| 09:35 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
rangi: makes sense, i know the problem |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
i think i woud like to discuss an idea for module maintainers again |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
thinking about sip and ldap especially |
| 09:37 |
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kf |
but for 3.16 |
| 09:37 |
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kf |
or 4 |
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kf |
hm maybe unimarc |
| 09:39 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 09:40 |
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rangi |
right sleep time |
| 09:40 |
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kf |
night rangi |
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liw |
sleep well, rangi |
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dcook |
night rangi |
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* dcook |
should head off as well.. |
| 09:44 |
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magnuse |
maybe normarc? |
| 09:48 |
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Oak |
@later tell Brooke https://soundcloud.com/cityand[…]our-the-hurry-and |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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Oak |
@later tell cait https://soundcloud.com/cityand[…]our-the-hurry-and |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:49 |
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Oak |
rangi++ |
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dcook |
City and Colour \o/ |
| 09:49 |
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dcook |
Dallas Green has the voice of an angel... |
| 09:49 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Ok, I should go too |
| 09:49 |
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dcook |
Night all |
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wahanui |
goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
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paxed |
Arggh. |
| 09:56 |
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paxed |
looks like accidentally uploaded the fr-FR translation file to pootle instead of fi-FI ... |
| 10:00 |
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paxed |
now how do i cancel all those suggested translations? i dodn't see any way other than manually going through all of them. which is just impossible. |
| 10:03 |
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kf |
let me take a look |
| 10:04 |
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kf |
hm |
| 10:04 |
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kf |
it looks like there are only 29 suggestions for 3.12? |
| 10:05 |
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kf |
paxed: not sure i see the problem, maybe write an email to the koha-translate mailing list |
| 10:07 |
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paxed |
i guess there wasn't more than that then, and i went through those and removed the french ones. |
| 10:08 |
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paxed |
also: this is my first time actually using pootle. and i'm not liking it... but at least it's better than the launchpad translation system. |
| 10:09 |
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kf |
i guess it's a question of available options |
| 10:09 |
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kf |
web based translation systems are not a huge market |
| 10:10 |
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kf |
and Pootle is still being developed and quite ok |
| 10:17 |
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paxed |
i'm a commandline guy. i hate most of web 2.0 stuff |
| 10:33 |
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kivilahtio__ |
I agree with paxed regarding the translation tools. Pootle is for non-technical people, but the way Koha deals with some translation strings is just beyond non-technical capabilities. Or can a non-technical translator really translate Koha without looking into code? |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
I think so |
| 10:38 |
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kivilahtio__ |
bug 7376 |
| 10:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in |
| 10:38 |
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kf |
lots of the translators are not programmers |
| 10:38 |
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kivilahtio__ |
is paul_p working in this? |
| 10:38 |
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kivilahtio__ |
knock knock paul_p |
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kf |
maybe tr ysending an email if you get no reaction here - not sure how much he is around right now |
| 10:38 |
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* paul_p |
awakes :D |
| 10:38 |
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kivilahtio__ |
paul_p: wow I thought you are travelling the world! |
| 10:39 |
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kivilahtio__ |
paul_p: commented that bug, I would like to extend the bug |
| 10:39 |
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paul_p |
kivilahtio__ nope, I was in Rome yesterday & monday, but now I'm back. |
| 10:39 |
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kivilahtio__ |
paul_p: just asking so I am not stepping your toes |
| 10:39 |
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paul_p |
yikes, this bug fall in a pit... |
| 10:39 |
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paul_p |
I'll assign it to joubu now |
| 10:40 |
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kivilahtio__ |
actually I have some urgent stuff with data migration as well, but just curious if this is moving forward? |
| 10:41 |
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kivilahtio__ |
paul_p: this bug is a tricky one for sure :) |
| 10:42 |
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paul_p |
kivilahtio__ nope, because I "lost" this bug (and don't have a minute to dedicate to it). So I assign it to jonathan, he'll have a look |
| 10:42 |
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paul_p |
kivilahtio__ yes, it's a tricky one. |
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* kf |
waves to JDatTeTakere |
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paxed |
kf: unlikely. for example, non-coders have no idea what "%%" in the translation string means. (or at least i saw a comment in the finnish translation about "missing two s from %%" ...) |
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* magnuse |
has never had to look at code to do translations |
| 11:35 |
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magnuse |
weird characters like %? just copy them over |
| 11:39 |
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paxed |
well, norwegian is a germanic language, ... |
| 11:40 |
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paxed |
need to change the word order in the sentence? don't see how a non-coder can do that without trial and error. |
| 11:41 |
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magnuse |
ah yes, that might be a headache |
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paxed |
also, agglutination. |
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kivilahtio__ |
I wonder how they did it Arabics? |
| 11:44 |
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kivilahtio__ |
...with Arabics |
| 11:46 |
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jcamins |
I'm sure there are some strings that didn't translate well, but for well-chosen strings, you just have to translate "around" the %s. |
| 11:46 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Sorry kf...so busy working on my KohaCon13 paper that I didn't notice your wave. |
| 11:50 |
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kf |
JDatTeTakere: shouldn't you be sleeping? :) |
| 11:51 |
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kf |
JDatTeTakere: looking forward to meet you soon - we arrive on the same day . well almost, i will be there quite late |
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magnuse |
hey, i want to meet JDatTeTakere too! ;-) |
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Betimi |
Can I ask a question ? |
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paxed |
jcamins: if only it was translating "around" the %s - but i'm irritated how actual TT code gets inserted as %s, or even worse, as actual translatable text... |
| 11:54 |
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jcamins |
paxed: yeah, that's annoying, but I think not nearly as common as the %s's. |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
sometimes something slips |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
most likely bad constructs int he templates |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
feel free to send patches |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
I like the %s - they allow me to change the word order/grammar |
| 11:56 |
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Betimi |
Why I can't delete 2 records from catalog |
| 11:56 |
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Betimi |
even when I click them it doesnt open |
| 11:56 |
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Betimi |
it shows an error |
| 11:56 |
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kf |
your indexes are probably out of date |
| 11:57 |
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Betimi |
runtime error: file /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slimUtils.xsl line 76 element param xsltApplyXSLTTemplate: A potential infinite template recursion was detected. You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250). |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
check if your rebuild_zebra is running regularly or try to reindex |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
oh |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
not sure about this error |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
you can try turning off the xslt view to get a look at those records |
| 11:57 |
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Betimi |
index is working because when I deleted other things from catalog they dont show more in search |
| 11:57 |
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kf |
which version are you using? |
| 11:58 |
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Betimi |
3.12 |
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paxed |
kf: again, you'd have to be a coder to know how the TT code works. |
| 12:00 |
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paxed |
(and having the placeholder comment as "%1$s: END" doesn't help at all, when the IF/whatever isn't included...) |
| 12:00 |
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Betimi |
kf: Can I remove them if I disable xslt |
| 12:01 |
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kf |
i think so, the display should work then |
| 12:03 |
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Betimi |
how I disable it ? |
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magnuse |
Betimi: search for "xslt" in the systempreferences |
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JDatTeTakere |
Sleeping? It's only 1.18am :-) |
| 12:19 |
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JDatTeTakere |
I'm looking forward to meeting KF and magnuse in equal amounts. No fighting over the newbie. |
| 12:19 |
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magnuse |
but i'm not going to reno... |
| 12:19 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: you're going to KohaCon?!? |
| 12:19 |
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jcamins |
Aww. |
| 12:19 |
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jcamins |
That's what I thought. |
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magnuse |
ok, i'll stop whining about it now |
| 12:20 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Oh...you'll have to come to NZ then magnuse |
| 12:20 |
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* jcamins |
is disappointed. |
| 12:20 |
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kf |
magnuse was in nz :) |
| 12:21 |
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JDatTeTakere |
When - for the KohaCon in Wellington? |
| 12:21 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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* kf |
met magnuse there for the first time :) |
| 12:21 |
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magnuse |
and i'd be very happy to go there again! |
| 12:21 |
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* kf |
too |
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magnuse |
that is true |
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magnuse |
almost 3 years ago now |
| 12:21 |
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magnuse |
wow |
| 12:21 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Come and visit Te Takere...we just had our vist birthday. |
| 12:21 |
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magnuse |
more or less on the day 3.2 was unleashed |
| 12:22 |
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JDatTeTakere |
First! Must need to be asleep. |
| 12:22 |
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* magnuse |
would love to see te takere |
| 12:22 |
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kf |
yeah, another kohacon in nz? :) |
| 12:22 |
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* magnuse |
even helped pay for it, a little bit ;-) |
| 12:22 |
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JDatTeTakere |
I'll bring photos might be able to do a show and tell for those who are interested. |
| 12:22 |
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magnuse |
kohacon_in_nz++ |
| 12:22 |
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JDatTeTakere |
Which bit did you help pay for Magnuse? ;-) |
| 12:22 |
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kf |
JDatTeTakere: that woudl be quite nice - we saw the library in levin and stand in front of one of the branches I think |
| 12:24 |
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JDatTeTakere |
What was the ground floor of the old Levin Library is now the Youth Space. Through a bright yellow door is the rest of Te Takere. It's massive and very, very beautiful. |
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JDatTeTakere |
Of course, I'm a little biased. |
| 12:24 |
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magnuse |
JDatTeTakere: probably about 1 litre of concrete somewhere :-) |
| 12:25 |
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JDatTeTakere |
That must make you almost a NZ landowner magnuse |
| 12:26 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 12:26 |
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JDatTeTakere |
My cats are misbehaving - I think they want me to go to bed. Fun talking to you guys. KF we should have breakfast on the 14th...or maybe lunch, depending on jetlag. |
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kf |
:) |
| 12:39 |
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blou |
C4 ? |
| 12:39 |
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wahanui |
C4 is a high explosive :-) or "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)" |
| 12:40 |
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blou |
Koha ? |
| 12:40 |
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wahanui |
i heard Koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 12:40 |
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blou |
:) |
| 12:40 |
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kf |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 12:40 |
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wahanui |
:) |
| 12:40 |
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blou |
well, that helged |
| 12:40 |
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blou |
helped |
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* kf |
tries wishing very hard for oleonard |
| 12:41 |
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blou |
Holà #koha |
| 12:41 |
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kf |
oleonard? |
| 12:41 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 12:41 |
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kf |
oleonard? |
| 12:41 |
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wahanui |
oleonard is probably not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 12:41 |
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kf |
oleonard? |
| 12:41 |
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wahanui |
oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 12:41 |
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magnuse |
let's all wish really hard! |
| 12:45 |
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blou |
Anyone (beside wahanui) that could point me to some philosophical discussion/document regarding the difference between C4:: and Koha:: |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
koha namespace? |
| 12:45 |
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blou |
Might be a bit early for N-A koha# to discuss philosophy before coffee |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
blou: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha_Namespace_RFC and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]amespace_QA_Rules |
| 12:45 |
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blou |
thank you! |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 12:46 |
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jcamins |
That first one has almost no basis in reality. |
| 12:46 |
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jcamins |
coding guidelines? |
| 12:46 |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 12:49 |
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blou |
Lot of direction toward Koha:: and the way to modify it, but no explanation on C4. I know it's the "original", but do we |
| 12:49 |
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blou |
1) try to make it disappear |
| 12:49 |
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blou |
2) leave it at peace |
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blou |
3) it's ok to add stuff in it. |
| 12:50 |
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blou |
The Calendar "class" really started the confusion... :) |
| 12:51 |
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blou |
... the questionning. |
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kf |
blou: where there is already a module, like Koha::Dates use that I woudl say |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
if you add a new module, do it in Koha |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
ideally |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
and else you can still add to C4 - what do you want to do? |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
(and that's how i understand it, but jared might disagree :) ) |
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jcamins |
Koha:: should be used whenever possible, but code going into Koha:: should not have any dependencies on code in C4:: (other than C4::Context, C4::Boolean, and C4::Debug). |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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banana |
morning tcohen |
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tcohen |
banana? |
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rambuten |
banana is my fallback nick at home |
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rambuten |
I'm logged on as rambutan at work, so I can't get that nick (I'm still at home eating cereal) |
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blou |
kf, jcamins: thanks! Exactly the info/direction I was looking for. |
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tcohen |
=D |
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blou |
Newbie, naive and uninformed question: No commit to the master in past 5 days. Any bug on my git, or some Dev freeze? |
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blou |
I _always_ suspect my environment, but this time I haven't touched anything, I'm sure of it! :) |
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jcamins |
The RM has been busy with other things. |
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blou |
ha! thanks jcamins! So that goes in the Newbie and uninformed categories then... :) |
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kivilahtio__ |
blou: Good thing you asked that question. It was verry helpful for me as well. |
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tcohen |
do we use variables within templates? |
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jcamins |
Sometimes. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: "used for/see from" entries shouldn't point to a search, right? |
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tcohen |
(plain text only) |
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jcamins |
That's correct. |
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tcohen |
when's this supposed to be used?: (Earlier heading) |
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jcamins |
I can never remember, but dbs has a mirror of the MARC format documentation. |
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jcamins |
http://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/marc/ |
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tcohen |
the template functions that show auth search results have a |
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tcohen |
UNLESS ( type=='seefrom' || type=='seealso' ) ... |
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tcohen |
add a span |
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tcohen |
with that sort of stuff |
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tcohen |
jcamins: i don't know what to search for in that site, i'm not used to authorities |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #125 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: look at the documentation for $w on the 5xx fields. |
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tcohen |
jcamins++ # for teaching tcohen |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10965: fix breakage when loading sample itemtypes during install <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]507a2672b0987d795> / Bug 10925: fix LDAP auth failing if DEBUG is enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]470f39ff9cf080d22> |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10949: restore ability to successfully print hold slips <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52db083e90ccc6ffe> |
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kf |
gmcharlt++ |
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* jcamins |
considers responding to the e-mail from Tom Hanstra and decides to let someone else. |
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* kf |
encourages jcamins to do it |
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* gmcharlt |
has saved jcamins from it |
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jcamins |
kf: it was never going to happen. |
| 14:53 |
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jcamins |
Because the enthusiasm I could muster was limited to "I use packages, and you should too." |
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tcohen |
yay, didn't know i could rearrange patch order during rebase / squash |
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tcohen |
rebase++ |
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gmcharlt |
http://tomayko.com/writings/the-thing-about-git (and grep for the comment about git rebase --interactive) |
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tcohen |
thanks gmcharlt for the pointer :-D |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
kf |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10967: fix minor POD error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a44789c7cadd0445e> |
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kf |
Joubu++ |
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kf |
# qaing offline circ |
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oleonard |
qa++ |
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kf |
:) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5645: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]055707b15b461d24b> |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #125: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/125/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 10925: fix LDAP auth failing if DEBUG is enabled |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10925 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , LDAP Auth fails if DEBUG is enable |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #126 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10948: make reference labels translatable in OPAC auth results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3a421f7ce08224f1> |
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tcohen |
hmm, gonna need to rebase 10691 because of that one jcamins :-/ |
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jcamins |
bug 10691 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list |
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jcamins |
Heh. Sorry. |
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kf |
jcamins: i know how you can make tcohen feel better about it - sign off! :) |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
Not now- I need to leave in a few minutes. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10806: make the staff benchmark script check authentication failure. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]533fa7b6b0f17e40b> |
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rambutan |
Tom Clancy died? |
| 15:52 |
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oleonard |
If you believe the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10[…]s-dies-at-66.html |
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rambutan |
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/us/tom-clancy-obit/ |
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kivilahtio__ |
wow, you have gone in great depths just to prevent migrating the primary keys! |
| 16:08 |
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kivilahtio__ |
....gone to great depths.... |
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kf |
I don't think that's koha specific... |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #126: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/126/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10965: fix breakage when loading sample itemtypes during install |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10949: restore ability to successfully print hold slips |
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jenkins_koha |
* Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10967: fix minor POD error |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 5645: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10948: make reference labels translatable in OPAC auth results |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10965 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Sample itemtypes can't load on new install |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10949 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , hold request not retrieved when printing hold slip |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10967 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , POD ERROR in acqui/booksellers.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10948 normal, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , Some strings in the authority result list turned out untranslatable |
| 16:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #127 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:11 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: Even when migrating patrons, my defined borrowernumber is ignored in C4::Members::AddMember and C4::SQLHelper::InsertInTable. I think it is deliberately left out, as there is code which deliberately removes it :) |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: But I got it fixed no less. It is an interesting journey inside the legacy C4 modules |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: But I just don't understand why primary keys shouldn't be migrated? |
| 16:12 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: nevermind that. It hopefully wont be an issue in the future |
| 16:12 |
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kf |
hm there are a lot of good presentations on migrating koha I think |
| 16:12 |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio__: Probably because one should let the database handle its own primary keys, since they are meant to be for "internal" use |
| 16:13 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: Migrating patrons and thei outstanding fines, circulations and reservations as well? |
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kf |
http://de.slideshare.net/druth[…]tionkudoscon-2011 |
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kf |
this is one of them |
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kf |
well more abut the basics |
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kf |
but we have migrated all thos ewithout any primary keys :) |
| 16:13 |
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kivilahtio__ |
I understand if you only migrate biblios and items inside the biblio record |
| 16:13 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: then maybe I am doing something horribly wrong |
| 16:14 |
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kf |
not sure if it's wrong, we are of different opinion there |
| 16:14 |
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kf |
we let koha handle it's own numbers, and prepare the data in a way that we can load it - it's a different approach |
| 16:15 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: ah using barcodes |
| 16:15 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: that is a pretty good idea. |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: I'll try doing that in my next phase. We had huge issues in calculating our barcodes from our legacy system, so maybe thats why I havent thought about that at all |
| 16:16 |
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kivilahtio__ |
but that was one great diashow |
| 16:17 |
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kf |
thre are more, pretty much evey kohavon the last 3 years i think |
| 16:18 |
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kivilahtio__ |
how about field 001 duplication? if our legacy system has analytic records linked in field 001 -> 773w, then field 001 has value of 4054. At some point new biblios try to share the old 001? |
| 16:19 |
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kivilahtio__ |
kf: so say we migrate 4050 biblios, when our librarian adds the 4054th biblio to the catalog, where does the field 001-number come from? |
| 16:21 |
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kf |
you could set it to the biblionumber, there is a patch for doing that |
| 16:21 |
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kf |
currently koha doesn't generate one |
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kf |
have to run! :) |
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drojf |
good evening #koha |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #127: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/127/ |
| 16:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 10806: make the staff benchmark script check authentication failure. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The staff benchmark script does not check authentication failure |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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tcohen |
does this look better than default? http://snag.gy/FNBq5.jpg |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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cait |
how is the before? |
| 17:34 |
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tcohen |
"see also:" and "see from:" labels on each occurence |
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cait |
yes, this looks better :) |
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tcohen |
how about this one cait1? http://snag.gy/kQkYC.jpg |
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cait1 |
italic? nice :) |
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tcohen |
should it be capitalized? |
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cait1 |
not sure |
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tcohen |
bgkriegel, cait1: http://snag.gy/MhwLZ.jpg |
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bgkriegel |
super cool! |
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cait1 |
looks nice to me:) |
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cait1 |
:) |
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tcohen |
i'm definitely not good at describing library stuff in english (neither in spanish of course) |
| 18:55 |
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tcohen |
but i filled it at bug 10987 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10987 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Too many 'see also' and 'usedfor/see from' labels occurences |
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oleonard |
Re: Bug 10986, I wonder if one could periodically extract language information from all existing biblio records and build the limiters that way |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, ASSIGNED , Limit the list of languages in advanced search through system preferences |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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* oleonard |
glares at rambutan |
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cait1 |
what did he do? |
| 19:29 |
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oleonard |
Cheering for RDA on the mailing list is a punishable offense! |
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* cait1 |
goes to look and agrees |
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wizzyrea |
erm |
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* cait1 |
wonders if rda toolkits are down too |
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rambutan |
ME? |
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wahanui |
i heard rambutan was not from NZ |
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oleonard |
Aren't they run by ALA? They're not the government, they're just a helpful group who charges libraries to read a specification that librarians didn't write and which librarians don't want. |
| 19:34 |
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rambutan |
magnuse suggested it (didn't he?) |
| 19:34 |
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cait1 |
rambutan: nope |
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Topic for #koha is now Pizza thurs today! |
| 19:35 |
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cait1 |
oleonard: i don't care so much for the rules... but I strongly dislike it's not an open standard |
| 19:35 |
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rambutan |
Quote: "and embrace current technologies" |
| 19:35 |
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kathryn |
oopsoops! |
| 19:35 |
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kathryn |
ww topic change! |
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cait1 |
lol |
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kathryn |
morning everyone! |
| 19:35 |
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cait1 |
hi kathryn :) |
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kathryn |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
RDA isn't a technology, it's a cataloguing standard |
| 19:35 |
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kathryn |
pizza for everybody! |
| 19:36 |
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cait1 |
trying to save rambutaN? |
| 19:36 |
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cait1 |
mmh pizza |
| 19:36 |
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Topic for #koha is now QA sprint, run Forrest run! | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]-library-software |
| 19:36 |
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cait1 |
thx wizzyrea |
| 19:36 |
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oleonard |
kathryn can make promises, but getting pizza to me while it's still hot is a tall order |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
also, RDA isn't the technology (even if it were a technology) that magnuse was referring to |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
he's talking about the semantic web and linked data and a host of other things |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
that are actually new technologies. |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
newer* |
| 19:37 |
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pizza |
cold pizza is still good if it has lots of sauce |
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kathryn |
yea, oleonard, well actually if I knew everyone's address and local suppliers...but that would be my day over! |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
and it's only just begun! |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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kathryn |
:( |
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kathryn |
ah well rambutan, another day, there will be pizza |
| 19:51 |
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rambutan |
pizza and coffee |
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rambutan |
breakfast of champions |
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cait1 |
for me no coffee please, just the pizza |
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tcohen |
bgkriegel: http://www.sai.com.ar/bibliote[…]etin/O/bie103.htm |
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tcohen |
*hint: grep Koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
I have a question regarding plugin popup window behaviour. |
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mtompset |
If I use firefox with javascript disabled, the clicking the plugin icon does not popup a window. |
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tcohen |
seems reasonable |
| 20:06 |
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mtompset |
If I use IE with scripting disabled, the clicking the plugin icon DOES popup a window. |
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tcohen |
i'm pleased to see the Dude in kohadevreactions |
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tcohen |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]rogue-and-creates |
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mtompset |
Is there some setting I am missing in IE? |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins |
Well, at least the Unshelved people appreciate that their badges are absurd: http://www.unshelved.com/2013-10-2 |
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oleonard |
IE doesn't respect your "scripting disabled" setting mtompset? |
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mtompset |
Perhaps I should restart it then try... |
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mtompset |
oh right... the whole tabs thing doesn't work if I restart. |
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magnuse |
pizza? |
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wahanui |
i guess pizza is in the oven. |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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mtompset |
Yep... stuck with the "Loading" message in IE, but firefox loads. |
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oleonard |
What are you trying to do mtompset? |
| 20:11 |
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mtompset |
Why are browser behaviours so vastly different?! |
| 20:11 |
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mtompset |
I'm trying to test bug 6874. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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mtompset |
with and without javascript enabled. |
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mtompset |
I did trigger Julian's non-javascript code, but you have to turn it off in the middle of the process. |
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mtompset |
Which seems kind of pointless. |
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mtompset |
You are either going to have it on all the time, or off all the time. |
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mtompset |
most people aren't crazy enough to turn it on and off randomly in the middle of processing something. |
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mtompset |
I can't seem to get Julian's non-javascript code to trigger under firefox. |
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mtompset |
It is reasonable to assume that plugins require javascript on, right? |
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oleonard |
The whole staff client requires JS |
| 20:16 |
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bgkriegel |
tocohen: good! |
| 20:17 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: it does? Firefox with javascript disabled is functional for a lot of it. |
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oleonard |
Good. But it is not guaranteed to work. |
| 20:17 |
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mtompset |
Oops... |
| 20:17 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: and not look ugly. :) |
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* pianohacker |
ponders making the new editor functional without JS and giggles slightly unstably |
| 20:19 |
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cait1 |
pianohacker: an accessible one would be reallynice |
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mtompset |
pianohacker: Any sorts of tabbing requires javascript or lots of page duplication. :P |
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mtompset |
well, not duplication, but a page for each tab selected. |
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pianohacker |
20 lines of perl, ~1000 lines of JS? ehhhh |
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pianohacker |
no tabbing |
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pianohacker |
I will be _lynched_ if I add tabs to this |
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tcohen |
syntax highlighting pianohacker ? |
| 20:36 |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: yeah, though most of the non-marc infrastructure is provided by the library I'm using |
| 20:36 |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: non-marc sounds wonderful. |
| 20:37 |
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pianohacker |
heh, not what I meant, but I wish :) |
| 20:37 |
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pianohacker |
non-marc-specific would be more accurate |
| 20:42 |
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pianohacker |
cait1: you saw followup on bug 10486, right? |
| 20:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
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cait1 |
it is not signed off |
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cait1 |
i saw it... but we are running out of time |
| 20:43 |
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cait1 |
hm i am probably not making much sense :) |
| 20:44 |
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pianohacker |
eh, bot liked it. Push that puppy! :) |
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rangi |
hehe the bot only checks it applies cleanly |
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wizzyrea |
i really appreciate the work rangi's done on that bot |
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cait1 |
yep it's a nice bot |
| 20:47 |
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wizzyrea |
so helpful to know if any given patch has actually recently applied |
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cait1 |
we should name it |
| 20:47 |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
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jcamins |
cait1: "Dotty"? |
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cait1 |
jcamins: ? |
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tcohen |
is bot subject to bribery? |
| 20:48 |
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jcamins |
For a name. |
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cait1 |
oh |
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cait1 |
why dotty? |
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pianohacker |
Hmm. Who's petter? I think we're on the same flight from denver :) |
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jcamins |
'Cause it's kind of like "Dobby" and kind of like "Bot." |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
dobby isn't a bad name actually |
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wizzyrea |
helpful house elf :) |
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rangi |
pianohacker: you should note that, he is from oslo public library |
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rangi |
they are doing some funky cool things |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
pianohacker: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]for_presentations |
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pianohacker |
okay, cool. Hopefully we're actually on the same flight, and find each other |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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jcamins |
Look for someone from Norway. |
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wizzyrea |
rangi: what would be a good maori name that implies helpfulness/care? |
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rangi |
unlikely that there are 2 flights that land at the same time from denver |
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pianohacker |
hmmmm. Really wish I were staying for the hackfest... |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: manaaki |
| 20:53 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ is what we should name our bot |
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rangi |
http://kupu.maori.nz/ShowKupu.aspx?kupu=224 |
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wizzyrea |
thanks :D |
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wizzyrea |
pronounced how it looks? |
| 20:54 |
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rangi |
mah nah key |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: my favorite response to that is "yes, if you pronounce things like they're Maori (or whatever language)." |
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wizzyrea |
that works for languages that use a latin alphabet I guess. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I've heard people use that for other alphabets, too. |
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* gmcharlt |
will rename the bot in exchange for a chocolate fish |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
mostly that question implies "are there any oddities in the pronunciation that would be different from the language we are having this conversation in" |
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* wizzyrea |
gives gmcharlt a chocolate fish |
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* wizzyrea |
makes a note to send some with rangi for the hackfest |
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* talljoy |
makes a note to look for rangi to bum some chocolate fish from. |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]tereo/manaaki.mp3 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
thanks :) |
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rangi |
oh and of course |
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rangi |
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]nd/tereo/koha.mp3 |
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rangi |
i expect you all to get it right at kohacon :) |
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wizzyrea |
be sure to get the emPHAsis on the right sylLAble |
| 21:06 |
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rangi |
after the south african corrected me on ubuntu on the eifl-foss webinar, i made a point of correcting him twice on koha |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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rangi |
2 can play that game buddy |
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wizzyrea |
oh what is the proper way |
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senator |
deb ee an |
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* senator |
resumes lurking |
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rangi |
heh |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fJF5UIS_hE |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
oo boon too |
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wizzyrea |
not uh bun too |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
or oo bun too |
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* wizzyrea |
notes it |
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wizzyrea |
also, don't name your software after your girlfriend. |
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coffee |
anyone aware of any Koreans planning to attend KC13? |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
ill make the bot run the tests, when i can get a nice way of doing that going, it wont be before kohacon though |
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eythian |
hi |
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rambutan |
hi eythian |
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rangi |
pianohacker: there is a free shuttle to the hotel, so you and petter should be able to catch the same one at least |
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pianohacker |
rangi: thanks, do you know if it runs that late? |
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rangi |
yup |
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pianohacker |
sweeeet |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
every 30 mins apparently |
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cait1 |
yep |
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cait1 |
15 and 45 |
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wahanui |
60 |
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pianohacker |
hahahaha |
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rangi |
http://www.atlantiscasino.com/[…]s-airport-shuttle |
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pianohacker |
3.14 and 2.718 |
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wahanui |
5.858 |
| 21:21 |
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wizzyrea |
1257 and 5953 |
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wahanui |
7210 |
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rangi |
runs from 4.30am until 12.14am |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
12.15 even |
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pianohacker |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
i guess you need to tip tho eh? |
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* rangi |
doesnt understand your funny customs :) |
| 21:22 |
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wizzyrea |
for that? I probably wouldn't |
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rangi |
i just walk round giving everyone money |
| 21:22 |
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rangi |
cos i have no idea what im doing |
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cait1 |
lol |
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cait1 |
we better keep an eye on you then |
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eythian |
qr code is <reply>https://lh6.googleusercontent.[…]10-no/JJ71iDv.gif |
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eythian |
wahanui: qr code is <reply>https://lh6.googleusercontent.[…]10-no/JJ71iDv.gif |
| 21:22 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, eythian. |
| 21:22 |
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wizzyrea |
restaurants, yes; bellhops, yes; drivers of hotel shuttles... probably not |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
ah ok |
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rangi |
unless they are cool and play good music in their shuttle? |
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cait1 |
heh |
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rambutan |
depends on if they help you load luggage |
| 21:23 |
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cait1 |
oh good point |
| 21:23 |
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wizzyrea |
mmm yes, agreed on that point |
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wizzyrea |
help meaning "pick it up for you" not "open the trunk" |
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rangi |
ah ok |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you don't need to tip drivers? |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
and yea, if they're cool and play good music, nobody will probably turn down a tip |
| 21:24 |
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jcamins |
I mean, shuttle drivers. |
| 21:24 |
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* jcamins |
didn't know that. |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't ever observed this, but I'm from the uncultured midwest |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
too complicated!!! |
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rangi |
:) |
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jcamins |
I know nothing about tipping. |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
| 21:25 |
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cait1 |
i guess different for cabs |
| 21:25 |
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cait1 |
then for free hotel shuttles? |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
I could ask my friend who drove an airport shuttle for a while |
| 21:25 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, you tip cabs. |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
do you?! |
| 21:25 |
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wizzyrea |
really?! |
| 21:25 |
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wahanui |
really is off now |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
oh yeah you definitely do cabs |
| 21:25 |
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* wizzyrea |
is never going to new york ever. |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
well I've already been there |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
i know that one |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins |
I never take taxis for that reason. |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
but I didn't (fortunately) take any cabs. |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins |
Well, that and that they're just generally expensive. |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
i once caught one from teh bus station in toledo, to the hotel by the conference center |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
it cost about as much as my flight from nz |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
(i exaggerate slightly) |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
well after the conversion you're probably close. |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
(I exaggerate slightly) |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins |
I was talking to someone the other day who took a cab from DC to New York. |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
oh my lord. |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
wtf |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins |
I want to say the fair was... $700? |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
that seems less than I would have expected. That or it's closer than I think. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
DC and New York are incredibly close. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
Well... |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
maybe not "incredibly." |
| 21:28 |
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rangi |
yeah i rode the greyhound from nyc to washington dc |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
But I know people who commute. |
| 21:28 |
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rangi |
that was an experience |
| 21:29 |
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rangi |
http://web.archive.org/web/200[…]t/confprogram.php <-- what i was doing in toledo |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
| 21:30 |
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jcamins |
11674*4 |
| 21:30 |
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jcamins |
11674 * 4 |
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wahanui |
46696 |
| 21:31 |
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jcamins |
I wonder why wahanui requires spaces. |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
cait i've been meaning to ask you about your money on card report - it takes ages to run do you just cron/email that? |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
cait1 i guess ^^ |
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rambutan |
tan 30 |
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rambutan |
tan(30 radians) |
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cait1 |
wizzyrea: money on card? |
| 21:33 |
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cait1 |
wizzyrea: help my memory? |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
yep sec |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
hm |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
it's not slow on our small databases |
| 21:35 |
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cait1 |
i think it coudl be made faster maybe? |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect there are a gazillion accountlines entries in this particular database |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
no worries |
| 21:35 |
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cait1 |
sorry, not much help there i guess :( |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
is alright |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I think there are a couple other things that you tip for in New York but not in the rest of the country. |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
I can't remember what things, but I think there are some things. |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
it's rather optional to say, tip your hairdresser, they always give you the opportunity but it's not required. |
| 21:39 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: check to make sure it's using indicies properly? |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
really, if you thought your haircut was really good and you're walking out feeling like a million bucks, then yea a tip is probably worthy. |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
| 21:40 |
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eythian |
wahanui: tips are weird. |
| 21:40 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 22:01 |
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mtj |
hey wizzyrea, did you get your question to me answered, from yesterday? |
| 22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
oh it was aobut the tweet bot |
| 22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
he seemed stuck |
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mtj |
ah yep, sorry about that :/ |
| 22:07 |
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wizzyrea |
:) is np |
| 22:07 |
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mtj |
i'll test him outta channel for a few days, before i bring him back online... |
| 22:08 |
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wizzyrea |
twas kind of a busy twitter day for #kohails yesterday |
| 22:08 |
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jcamins |
mtj: what is the goal of tweetbot, btw? I only ever notice it when it's spamming the channel. |
| 22:09 |
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jcamins |
I presume it's doing something during the NZ day, when I'm not around. |
| 22:09 |
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mtj |
it queries twitter every 5-ish mins, and posts #kohails tweets to this channel |
| 22:10 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 22:11 |
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mtj |
its goal is to titilate and inform |
| 22:12 |
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mtj |
…but when my linode vm runs out of disk, it also drives people batshit :( |
| 22:12 |
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jcamins |
Heh. What else do you run on it? |
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eythian |
should put nagios checks on it :) |
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mtj |
yeah, i know know! |
| 22:14 |
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mtj |
i might fix it proper this time |
| 22:15 |
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jcamins |
Go for it! |
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mtj |
but pleease kick him quick, if he ever goes crazy again |
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wizzyrea |
ah ok |
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wizzyrea |
he'll not try to reconnect if kicked? |
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mtj |
sorry, i think i mean banned, not kicked |
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wizzyrea |
ah okies |
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edveal |
Does anyone know if Koha considers an item as "available" if it is available for pick to fill a hold and another patron wants to place it on hold, yet on shelf holds is off? Is that clear as mud? |
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rangi |
no idea, you'd have to test it to see :) |
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rangi |
id guess no |
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rangi |
because onshelf doesnt actually check its on the shelf |
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rangi |
it checks its not on loan |
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rangi |
and it wont be onloan if its just waiting |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
| 22:24 |
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wizzyrea |
waiting items are not on loan, and so show as availab.e |
| 22:24 |
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wizzyrea |
available* |
| 22:24 |
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wizzyrea |
onshelf holds would disallow further holds |
| 22:24 |
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wizzyrea |
(if it's off) |
| 22:24 |
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cait1 |
hm |
| 22:25 |
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edveal |
Thank you that was what I thought just wanted to verify. |
| 22:25 |
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wizzyrea |
it'll do that until it's checked out |
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wizzyrea |
a librarian can override that though, i think. |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell dcook https://soundcloud.com/soundre[…]ne-sound-remedyyy |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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dcook |
morning for realz this time? |
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mtompset |
Nope... it was evening still. :O |
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mtompset |
Oops. :P |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook. |
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* dcook |
looks outside |
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dcook |
'tis a bit gray |
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dcook |
hey ya |
