IRC log for #koha, 2013-08-02

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00:00 dcook La langue de bois...neat phrase
00:05 pianohacker jcamins: something that may be relevant to your bug: the intended behavior of the transparent message is that it disappears upon keypress or mouse movement, but only after a delay. If things are close enough together, there's a bug that could cause that behavior not to work
00:05 pianohacker Good night, all
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02:00 dcook \o tcohen
02:01 dcook Twitter is great. I had never heard of Apache Derby before...
02:01 tcohen dcook o/
02:01 * jcamins imagines a roller derby-style web browser event.
02:01 tcohen small footprint / java ? WTF?
02:01 dcook P.S. @aestivus's styling and XSLTs were all done by the librarian there
02:02 * dcook wishes more librarians were like @aestivus
02:07 tcohen night jcamins, dcook
02:07 dcook night tcohen
02:11 wizzyrea does anyone have really good notes about authority matching?
02:11 jcamins Nope.
02:11 jcamins Or, at least, I don't.
02:11 wizzyrea hrm
02:11 dcook Nopes
02:11 dcook That reminds me of something I was thinking of recently though...
02:12 dcook What do you mean when you refer to authority matching?
02:14 wizzyrea sorry I think I meant merging authorities - but I think I got what I needed out of the manual
02:15 wizzyrea well I know I do
02:15 wizzyrea so forget I asked. ;
02:15 wizzyrea ;)
02:15 dcook Not at all. I'm curious now!
02:15 dcook Because I was thinking recently about merging authorities :p
02:15 dcook There's stuff in the manual about that?\
02:15 jcamins dcook: different kind of merging.
02:15 dcook Mmm
02:16 jcamins Merging multiple authority records is implemented by bug 5202.
02:16 dcook I gotcha
02:16 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records
02:16 dcook Oh?
02:16 jcamins What Koha calls authority merging is actually "updating bibs when the authority changes."
02:16 dcook Awesome!!!
02:16 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook
02:16 dcook Yeah, I remember the first time I figured that out
02:16 dcook There was some hair pulling out I think ;)
02:17 wizzyrea they probably mean what you just linked jcamins
02:17 dcook Althoug you can use the script manually to merge authorities, me thinks
02:17 jcamins dcook: you can, if you have command line access.
02:17 dcook Although I think it's just a 1 -> 1 relationship
02:17 dcook This looks like you could merge many into one?
02:18 dcook Oh wait, nvm
02:19 dcook jcamins++
02:20 dcook I was just saying the other day how something like this should exist
02:21 dcook I suppose doing multiple merges at once would be more difficult, but this would certainly help a lot
02:21 dcook This looks like a proper merge
02:21 dcook I suppose I was thinking of "mark X number of records, and redirect their connections to Y authority record"
02:22 dcook redirect = re-map
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02:29 mrx Hi, is there a way to access 2nd value of 020 field in a Marc record? E.g if one 020 field contains 13 digit ISBN and the other 020 field contain 10 digit code, how to access 2nd 020 value? Whenever I try to fetch 020 field it always returns the 1st value
02:37 bgkriegel mrx: are you using ExtractValue()?
02:43 mrx no, I'm using something like GetMarcBiblio(fetchrow_hashref())->field("020")
02:44 jcamins mrx: retrieve it into a list, and then address the second.
02:47 mrx oh ok, thanks jcamins
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03:37 dcook Hmm, any advice on how to build classes in Koha?
03:42 dcook Hmm Class::Accessor looks like it has a constructor with it..
03:47 dcook Class::Accessor it is
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04:11 cait mornin
04:12 dcook hey ya cait
04:13 cait hi dcook :)
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05:58 * kf waves
05:58 dcook That was fast :p
05:58 kf it was not a long way :)
06:00 kf papa++
06:01 * magnuse waves
06:01 magnuse dcook: talking of classes, have you seen the work being done on DBIx::Class?
06:02 magnuse bug 8798
06:02 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, In Discussion , Add the use of DBIx::Class
06:02 kf oh good point magnuse
06:04 dcook Mmm, not recently
06:04 dcook I looked at it a while ago though
06:05 * dcook takes another look
06:07 magnuse there is something about DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS gmcharlt said he would be looking into
06:08 dcook Yeah, I was just reading that part
06:08 dcook Hmm
06:08 dcook DBIx::Class does look like it would be useful
06:11 dcook I suppose in that case...I would still create a new object...but use the DBIx::Class object during my own construction...
06:11 dcook Rather than a hashref from the DB
06:11 dcook Although that almost seems counter-intuitive
06:11 dcook Actually, it does seem counter-intuitive
06:12 dcook But maybe my design is bad and it certainly isn't the norm...
06:12 dcook Eventually used the source for Class::Accessor as inspiration for how to make my own constructor then used it to make the accessors
06:12 kf why not use class:accessor?
06:13 dcook I am, but I needed to over-ride its basic constuctor
06:13 dcook So that I could put in the HTTP::OAI::Harvester object as one of its properties
06:14 kf interesting
06:14 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:15 kf koha has a spinelabel css
06:15 kf but it can't be edited frm the system prefrences?
06:15 dcook Not sure?
06:15 * dcook has GetRecord and ListRecords working so far. Just 4 more verbs to go...
06:19 * magnuse cheers dcook on
06:19 dcook Thanks magnuse :)
06:20 dcook At first, I figured that we'd just need ListRecords, but that makes a lot of assumptions
06:20 * kf cheers too :)
06:20 dcook Best to make an interface that allows the use of all 6 verbs me thinks
06:21 dcook Although maybe I should dial it back soon and look at doing the transformations and inserting into Koha..
06:21 dcook Damned scope creep...
06:21 magnuse hehe
06:22 dcook I want to have something in place for Kohacon...
06:22 dcook Still a little ways away I suppose
06:22 dcook I should be documenting this so I can speak about it better
06:22 * dcook will just stand and scroll through IRC logs for his presentation
06:22 dcook That could work, right?
06:22 dcook ;)
06:23 kf totally :)
06:23 magnuse sure!
06:24 dcook I like your positivity ;)
06:24 kf we are supportive
06:27 dcook kf++
06:27 dcook magnuse++
06:27 dcook 3 verbs down 3 to go
06:27 dcook I should make lunch
06:27 dcook Seeing that it's 4:27pm
06:27 dcook It's too bright for this time of day...which is great...means spring/summer approach :D
06:28 magnuse heh
06:29 magnuse interesting time for lunch... ;-)
06:32 dcook I have a tendency to focus and forget about regular human things :p
06:53 kf grr
06:53 kf itemcallnumber doesn't want to print!
06:53 dcook Hmm
06:53 dcook It might be because of the name
06:53 dcook I've had that issue before
06:55 dcook Hmm, or maybe I'm crazy
06:55 dcook Nvm
06:55 dcook My issue was someone tried "callnumber" rather than "itemcallnumber", I think
06:55 kf i have itemcallnumber
06:55 kf and 953o
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07:08 christophe_c hello #koha
07:08 dcook salut christophe_c, lds
07:09 christophe_c bonjour dcook ;-)
07:12 lds bonjour/hello #koha
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07:23 dcook Hmm, looks like my dev VM is broken...
07:23 dcook Ooops
07:23 dcook suddenly started working...
07:28 dcook All right. Home time.
07:28 dcook Bonne journée/soirée
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07:35 kf hm label creator is barely translated
07:35 kf lots of issues there :(
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07:39 gaetan_B hello
07:39 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
07:43 kf opachiddenitems--
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08:17 magnuse kf: 953o and itemcallnumber? shouldn't that be 952?
08:17 kf typo here but not there
08:17 kf but right now fighting a different thing
08:21 * magnuse cheers kf on in her battles
08:23 kf bug 10676
08:23 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10676 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OpacHiddenItems not working for restricted
08:24 magnuse says "Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012" - is that correct? and if it is, who can update it?
08:30 kf hm rangi maybe?
08:38 magnuse yeah, sounds familiar
09:45 magnuse wahanui: forget next gbsd
09:45 wahanui magnuse: I forgot next gbsd
09:45 magnuse next gbsd is[…]bug_squashing_day
09:45 magnuse next gbsd?
09:45 wahanui rumour has it next gbsd is[…]bug_squashing_day
09:45 kf yay :)
09:51 kf KOHA?
09:51 wahanui KOHA is a free software ils see for more info
09:58 magnuse koha?
09:58 wahanui i heard koha was a free software ils see for more info
10:25 magnuse i want HTTPS for my customers - can anyone recommend a good CA for wildcard SSL certificates?
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12:23 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:30 tcohen hi #koha
12:30 tcohen jcamins: on bug 5202 you note problems with authorities frameworks
12:30 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records
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12:51 oleonard Oh yay wizzyrea updated the Bootstrap OPAC demo to the latest version!
12:51 oleonard
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12:51 oleonard Gotta figure out why the cart shows an empty count bubble when it first starts up.
13:00 magnuse oh my, that does look good, oleonard
13:05 jcamins oleonard: it's missing a #basketcount span:empty CSS declaration.
13:05 oleonard Thanks magnuse. I think it's getting close to being usable.
13:06 magnuse oleonard: yay!
13:08 magnuse i hope it gets into master sooner rather than later, so we can "accidentally discover" any bugs and missing things before pi
13:10 oleonard I'm still unsure how to handle multiple controls like this:
13:10 oleonard Should some be hidden? Should they be grouped into menus?
13:11 jcamins I think the list stuff should be hidden until someone taps it.
13:11 jcamins Unless that's a list view, in which case there should be a title.
13:11 oleonard That's the view of a list's contents
13:11 jcamins Okay. Never mind.
13:11 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
13:13 oleonard I wonder if we should even offer bulk actions at that screen size.
13:16 jcamins Possibly not.
13:22 oleonard We'll need to be able to add a "delete from this list" button for each item in a list (something we should have anyway)
13:22 oleonard I wonder if there is a bug for that
13:24 oleonard Bug 7257. Good job, past self.
13:24 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
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13:34 tcohen quick poll: who's working on fixing reserves?
13:35 tcohen @search reserves
13:35 huginn` tcohen: There were no matching configuration variables.
13:35 tcohen @query reserves
13:35 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2927 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Saving on enter
13:35 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checking out on-hold item to someone else replaces item-level hold with next available
13:35 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2898 normal, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , C4::Letters::parseletter kills performance in notice jobs
13:35 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5800 normal, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Hold Policy "home library only" incompatible with CircControl "patron home library"
13:35 huginn` tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3054 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds/reserves accountlines record contains NULL itemnumber
13:37 jeffkelly Hello!  We are trying to install Koha on Ubuntu server at our school, with very little experience.  We followed the instructions as per[…]ubuntu_-_packages but once we try to access for the web installation we receive the message: System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator.
13:38 jeffkelly Has anyone experienced such an issue?  Suggestions?
13:38 jcamins jeffkelly: yes. You probably need to configure your DNS.
13:38 jcamins Or change your virtual host to match your DNS.
13:38 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
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13:39 jcamins That happens when you are accessing the OPAC instead of the staff client.
13:40 magnuse yeah, try to get tp the staff client, where you can run through the web part of the install process
13:40 jcamins The virtual hosts are configured in /etc/apache2/sites-available/[instancename]
13:41 jeffkelly I see.  I will double check our DNS and virtual host, as well as making sure we are trying to access staff vs opac.  Thanks!
13:43 kf_away tcohen: that shoudl give youan answer :(
14:00 magnuse @wunder boo
14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse @wunder marseille
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14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 32.0°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse gah!
14:00 magnuse @wunder konstanz
14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.2°C (3:15 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse gah!
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14:03 kf gah.
14:11 gaetan_B bye !
14:13 jeffkelly Hmm, as far as I can tell...everything looks alright and we are trying to access the staff client.  Is there anything else specific we can try?
14:18 kf jeffkelly: what is the url you are trying?
14:19 kf only opac gives maintenance, staff never does
14:20 jeffkelly we tried setting it up exactly as the instructions
14:21 kf 80 is opac
14:21 kf try 8080
14:21 kf oh hm
14:22 kf intra... not sure then - which instructions did you use?
14:22 jeffkelly[…]ubuntu_-_packages
14:25 magnuse jeffkelly: try pasting your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/something
14:25 magnuse paste?
14:25 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty!
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14:29 jeffkelly I am acutally on a seperate device...and I'm not typing it all out..
14:31 bigbrovar_ 3rd day trying to figure out why issn matching rule of the marc stage import doesn't work. I have gone through each and every record to ensure the issn of the records in koha matches with the mrc file to be imported and the match.. after all said and done.. I just can't figure out what I could be doing wrong. I am so tempted to file a bug (running 3-12 debian squeeze packages)
14:32 bigbrovar_ and yes I did ran koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library (numerous times )
14:35 bigbrovar_ so depressed right now.. i have already spent like close to 72 (cummulative) hours on this.. and I just can't figure what is wrong.
14:37 bigbrovar_ from the docs the matching rule seems straight forward.. if it finds a match for say issn .. add ignore the records, add the items.. issn exist in imported marc as it does in the koha database.. why report 0 records with at least one match?
14:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #2: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Docs_3.12.x/2/
14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items
14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description
14:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #345 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #345: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/345/
14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items
14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description
14:59 tcohen are tag and and authorities cloud usable out of the box?
14:59 tcohen nengard?
14:59 wahanui nengard is fast
15:00 nengard tag cloud should be
15:00 nengard if you have it enabled in the sys prefs
15:00 nengard the authorities cloud is a french only thing as far as i know so i don't have an answer on that
15:00 tcohen how can i generate the tag cloud?
15:00 nengard it's automatic
15:01 nengard if you have tags enabled and you have some tags on titles
15:01 nengard the cloud should be there
15:01 nengard http://manual.koha-community.o[…].html#opactagging
15:01 tcohen no cloud or browser field/subfield defined : nothing to do
15:04 nengard ??
15:12 kf tcohen: there are 2 clouds
15:12 kf what is labelled cloud int hte prefs will need a scrpit
15:12 kf it kind of works a bit for marc21
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15:12 kf you could give it a test run
15:12 kf but it's not related to the tag cloud
15:18 kf bigbrovar_: filing a bug might be good - or trying the mailng list. maybe supply screenshots and example records
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15:35 tcohen kf++
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15:36 kf yay!
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15:54 oleonard We've moved on from Google Groups to StackExchange I see...
15:55 jcamins oleonard: StackExchange != mailing list, so I think this is progress.
15:56 oleonard What do you mean?
15:56 jcamins oleonard: at least the proposal is for a system that isn't identical to one we already have.
15:57 tcohen the main problem is maintenance of course
15:57 tcohen (duplicate questions, etc)
15:58 jcamins tcohen: from my point of view, the main problem is that I am not following any additional fora.
15:59 jcamins Argh. I keep losing count of pages.
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16:08 tcohen yes, it would mean the list plus ask
16:22 oleonard Did I have a work in progress for Bug 7257 resulting in that screenshot, or did I just mock it up?
16:22 oleonard Need to know whether I should be mad at myself for letting that work in progress disappear from my computer and my memory.
16:22 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
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16:30 oleonard *whew*
16:30 * oleonard hopes all those folks weren't probed by aliens while they were gone.
16:31 JesseM :)
16:32 gmcharlt oleonard: I dare not speak of our experience on that other side...
16:33 * gmcharlt shivers
16:40 oleonard Whenever I get an email from someone suggesting I add a link to our web site I'm suspicious about their motives. The latest one is from this domain, which I'm not entirely convinced isn't a fake site:
16:41 oleonard Would someone have created a whole fake site to make their "helpful suggestion" sound legit?
16:41 oleonard Do I need to lay off the tin foil hats?
16:42 jcamins oleonard: call your local library and see if they're for real?
16:42 * jcamins chortles.
16:42 gmcharlt jcamins: oleonard already talks to himself too much in channel... ;)
16:43 oleonard Does a place like this really not mention what town their in, and list their address as "372 Main Street – 627–9025"
16:43 oleonard s/their/they're, sorry.
16:43 jcamins gmcharlt: oleonard probably. It's a community center for the people who go to the church it's attached to.
16:45 jcamins gmcharlt: whoops, I never finished typing my response to you.
16:45 jcamins Let me try that again.
16:45 jcamins gmcharlt: that's why I'm encouraging him to use a different communication technology.
16:49 gmcharlt oleonard: yeah, upon looking at it and trying (and failing) to Google what city or even state they're in ... it does look off to me too
16:50 * oleonard pulls off another sheet of tin foil and offers it to gmcharlt
16:51 jcamins oleonard: respond and ask that for their exact address and phone number?
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16:53 oleonard My curiosity may yet convince me to do so
16:54 jcamins oleonard: they're not a 501(c)(3) or incorporated in Ohio under any name that includes "Goodwin."
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17:07 gmcharlt oleonard: what's weird is that most of the (relatively few) references I'm finding to them are about how they've contributed links for other websites
17:07 oleonard Yeah I found that too
17:08 gmcharlt what's veddy-veddy interesting though, is that while I have found a Goodwin Community center in North Charleston, NC ... its street address and phone number are cmopletely different
17:09 gmcharlt er, SC, not NC
17:12 druthb @quote random
17:12 huginn` druthb: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011)
17:12 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
17:13 oleonard git checkout oleonardtimeline; git reset --hard 2013-08-02 05:00:00
17:14 oleonard I must not be in the right git repository
17:15 druthb git checkout druthb; git reset—hard 2013-08-02 15:59:59
17:15 druthb hm.  That didn't work, either.
17:15 tcohen oleonard, what do u think of making the "Z39.50 search" button (on the first cataloging page) a dropdown to choose the desired framework?
17:16 tcohen (and even change the wording to something like "New from Z39.50 search")
17:16 oleonard tcohen: Maybe a split button, so that if you want you can just click the main part of the button to use the default?
17:17 tcohen i like that
17:17 tcohen it would make cataloging from z39.50 two clicks faster
17:18 tcohen and might be a better workaround for bug 9742
17:18 jcamins bug 9742?
17:18 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9742 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Confirm overlay prompt always appears on creating record from Z39.50
17:18 jcamins Ah.
17:19 tcohen if you are editing a record, it is understandable that you are prompted to confirm
17:19 tcohen if you're creating a new one, you shouldnt
17:20 * tcohen sees they are not completely related topics :-/
17:20 tcohen oleonard: can you point me to a split button example currently used in Koha?
17:21 oleonard
17:21 wahanui i guess is a tangled mess, and every time we touch it we break something.
17:21 tcohen thanks
17:23 oleonard[…]l#buttonDropdowns
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17:29 tcohen "New from Z39.50" ?
17:30 oleonard That makes sense to me
17:30 jcamins "... the thrilling new standard by the makers of PQF and CCL."
17:33 tcohen hh
17:35 kf lol
17:36 kf you all are always trying to send me to bed
17:36 kf why is noone sending me home?
17:36 druthb kf?
17:36 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
17:36 druthb hush, wahanui.
17:36 wahanui druthb: what?
17:36 druthb kf, go home!
17:36 kf thx druthb
17:37 rambutan I go home.
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17:38 * kf waves goodbye
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18:04 * cait waves
18:04 druthb cait!
18:04 cait I've got fresh estragon
18:04 druthb drojf!
18:04 cait any suggestions what to do with it almighty #koha?
18:04 drojf druthb!
18:04 cait druthb! drojf!
18:04 drojf cait!
18:05 drojf a nice vodka estragon
18:05 druthb hm..  "Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's _Waiting for Godot_."
18:05 jcamins I have no idea what estragon is.
18:05 druthb Terragon, jcamins.
18:05 jcamins druthb: ah.
18:06 jcamins cait: put it on thinly-sliced potatoes and bake them.
18:06 jcamins Or make a salad dressing.
18:06 jcamins Or apply to fish.
18:06 drojf Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot.
18:06 cait i neither have fish nor potatos right now
18:06 cait and i get potatos next week with the veggy box
18:07 cait would it work with gnocchi?
18:07 jcamins It would.
18:07 jcamins But I thought you didn't have potatoes?
18:07 drojf Artemisia dracunculus sounds much more attractive
18:07 cait i have gnocchi :)
18:09 cait jcamins: more hints?
18:09 jcamins cait: hmm.
18:10 jcamins I'd probably make a butter sauce with it.
18:10 cait hmm
18:10 cait i got butter
18:11 cait how do you make a butter sauce?
18:11 cait cooking with butter is not something i do often
18:12 jcamins I just melt the butter, add the herbs, boil for a bit, and then pour over the gnocchi.
18:12 cait ah ok
18:12 jcamins Half stick of butter per lb of gnocchi.
18:12 cait that sounds easy
18:12 jcamins Oh, and I'd add garlic.
18:12 cait that sounds sgood
18:12 jcamins We add garlic to everything.
18:12 cait :)
18:13 cait you leave the terragon in in small pieces i guess?
18:13 jcamins Yup.
18:14 cait k thx :)
18:15 druthb garlic is useful for keeping away vampires.
18:15 druthb oop.   garlic?
18:15 druthb wahanui:  garlic?
18:15 wahanui garlic is useful for keeping away vampires.
18:15 cait yeah, and one of the good sites of living alone
18:15 druthb thought so.
18:19 tcohen oleonard around?
18:19 * oleonard waves
18:20 tcohen
18:21 oleonard Looks good
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18:21 tcohen thanks
18:21 tcohen it doesn't work, but looks good
18:22 oleonard :)
18:22 tcohen kidding, submitting the patch
18:22 tcohen added a parameter to PopupZ3950 (framework
18:22 tcohen )
18:22 oleonard I often get something to look the way I want it before I even get it to work. It helps me know if I've got the workflow corrrect
18:23 tcohen you're right about that
18:36 tcohen bug 10678
18:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50
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18:39 oleonard Oh, the prog theme OPAC is broken in IE10? Nice.
18:39 oleonard Cart and Lists buttons look like crap.
18:40 oleonard Probably because of some stupid CSS necessary to accommodate older versions :P
18:41 maximep can't say we ever tested it in ie10 :P
18:41 maximep or anything
18:41 wahanui anything is possible with enough development work :)
18:42 maximep :p
18:42 gmcharlt wahanui: complete cross-browser compatibility?  I really question that! ;)
18:42 wahanui gmcharlt: excuse me?
18:43 cait :)
18:44 tcohen put no javascript or css on plain HTML4 and you're almost there :-P
18:44 * oleonard is sure IE would think of a way to mess that up
18:44 tcohen heh
18:45 * cait agrees
18:45 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend
18:45 oleonard You too tcohen
18:46 * oleonard puts his patch for Bug 7257 into a time machine and sends it back to November 2011
18:46 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
18:49 pianohacker oleonard: Do you have any sort of convention for what to call the i (or index) parameter passed to a $.each function if you don't need it for anything?
18:49 oleonard No
18:49 pianohacker I realized quite belatedly that _ is not a good idea :)
18:49 jcamins pianohacker: if you don't need it, you can leave it out.
18:49 pianohacker jcamins: Yes, but then you need to refer to the actual value with this, which can get hairy fast
18:50 jcamins pianohacker: I think I've seen (undef, val), actually. That said, I always use idx and val.
18:50 pianohacker fair enough
18:51 pianohacker I like undef though
18:51 jcamins That might only work in certain browsers, or something like that.
19:40 oleonard khall++ # for doing signoffs today
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19:47 drojf gmcharlt++
19:47 cait gmcharlt++
19:47 drojf signing off+adding a test. thanks!
19:52 bag ha that's a pretty good twitter feed
19:52 bag @kohails++
19:52 huginn` bag: downloading the Perl source
19:52 bag whoops
19:52 bag koha++
19:54 * druthb chuckles at bag.
19:54 druthb bag++  #I needed a chuckle.
19:55 bag you are welcome - I have plenty of more dumb things :)
19:55 bag so druthb get this - Sonja is all the way down with her disseration and the profs have signed off on it - but the grad division has one little problem
19:55 bag the page numbers are too low on the page
19:56 jcamins Ha! I was going to guess the margin was wrong.
19:56 bag which is easy to fix in Word - but not in Latex
19:56 oleonard "I have to crane my neck way down just to see them!"
19:56 bag my comment was - tell them to get longer paper :)
19:57 bag the problem with moving them is it throws a few of her diagrams out of whack - which is way more important than the page numbers
20:00 druthb yeah, that'll be no fun to fix.
20:00 * drojf would like to add something useful but latex is really long ago
20:00 jcamins bag: I've actually heard of a lot of candidates who encountered problems due to margins after getting their thesis/dissertation approved.
20:00 bag yeah I think the grad division gets their kicks out of it
20:01 bag it's a common thing here
20:01 druthb They have to have one last opportunity to annoy you…besides the bills.  That lasts forever.
20:03 jcamins bag: can she keep the figures on the pages she wants by adjusting the tolerance or badness at the same time as adjusting fancyhdr? I did that once or twice.
20:04 bag not sure - but I know she will figure it out
20:04 bag I think she's got it now - only took her like an hour and half :)
20:05 bag the final page count is 106 pages on a B_type of Thompson's Group F (that's the quick version of the title)
20:05 pianohacker an hour spent saying words like "oh shoot" and "dernit" I'm sure
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20:30 oleonard Welp, see you later #koha.
20:48 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests <[…]d93ee119bc3b01486>
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21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin
21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin
21:10 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
21:10 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 6553 - Parentheses in Corporate author break tracings
21:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present
21:10 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
21:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
21:10 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, P3, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings
21:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10497 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
21:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1344 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 8 days 7 hr ago)
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21:22 pianohacker bye all
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21:26 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
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21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
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21:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:30 tcohen how do you call the arrow pointing down on a drop down?
21:30 jcamins Caret.
21:30 tcohen i'm trying to describe this[…]ment.cgi?id=20082 on the help page
21:33 tcohen "Click 'New from Z39.50' (optionally, you can choose a framework to which import the record by clicking the caret on the right)"
21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/24/
21:33 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests
21:34 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing
21:35 jcamins Works for me.
21:35 tcohen thanks
21:40 tcohen patch sent
21:41 * tcohen has just realized he doesn't usually take the help into account when submitting patches...
21:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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21:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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21:43 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
21:59 tcohen this is what Koha shows if an invalid framework code is passed to addbiblio
21:59 tcohen what would the best possible behaviour in such scenario be?
22:00 tcohen a warning? set the framework to the default? both?
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22:22 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests
22:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing
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22:58 tcohen gmcharlt: your post about perl 5.10 is really nice
22:58 gmcharlt tcohen: thanks

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