| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:36 |
|
tcohen |
night #koha |
| 06:42 |
|
rangi |
this ask idea site is interesting, but who do they propose is going to do the answering? |
| 06:43 |
|
magnuse |
rangi: you ;-) |
| 06:43 |
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rangi |
heh, unlikely :) |
| 06:44 |
|
rangi |
i dont have time to monitor yet another thing :) |
| 06:44 |
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* magnuse |
suspected as much :-) |
| 06:44 |
|
rangi |
i suspect it will end up a wasteland of unanswered questions |
| 06:44 |
|
rangi |
or a bunch of wrongly answered questions |
| 06:45 |
|
rangi |
like |
| 06:45 |
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rangi |
sudo rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 06:45 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 06:46 |
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rangi |
but i might be wrong, they should try it and see, but not with a .koha-community.org until it was proved useful |
| 06:46 |
|
magnuse |
good idea |
| 06:46 |
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gmcharlt |
if it a builds an FAQ, great |
| 06:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
if it splits the discuss or results in folks say "no, dummy, ask your question _here_", not so much |
| 06:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
rangi: I'd disagree with you on one point -- if the experiment gets made (and I think it should be explicitly done, if it all, only as an experiment), it ought to be on a koha-community.org subdomain |
| 06:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
first, to encourage people to think of k-c.org as the place to go or jump off from for help |
| 06:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
second, based on the experience with the libraries stackexchange, that hosting it elsewhere is all but guaranteed to ensure that it will be a wasteland |
| 07:01 |
|
rangi |
im more of the, i dont want a pile of bad answers to be associated with koha-community.org |
| 07:02 |
|
rangi |
because i think its 90% chance of being bad and non existant answers |
| 07:02 |
|
rangi |
if i thought it might work, id want it associated |
| 07:06 |
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gmcharlt |
that almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, though |
| 07:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
mind you, I'm not volunteering to set one up |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 07:09 |
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gmcharlt |
I'm not sure that there's any basis to this other than a gut feeling, but I feel like stackexchange-like sites just about need a bigger pool of folks willing to answer quesitions to be useful than a mailing list does |
| 07:09 |
|
rangi |
exactly |
| 07:09 |
|
rangi |
much bigger |
| 07:10 |
|
rangi |
without people spending a lot of time rating answers too |
| 07:10 |
|
rangi |
you end up with a lot of searchable bad advice |
| 07:10 |
|
rangi |
the only reason stackexchange is useful |
| 07:11 |
|
rangi |
is because bad answers get rated down |
| 07:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
and the occassional good-but-non-consensus answer, no doubt |
| 07:11 |
|
rangi |
ye |
| 07:11 |
|
rangi |
p |
| 07:13 |
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gmcharlt |
on the other hand, other than making things more bulletproof (which, of course, would be a Good Thing), there's got to be a better way to deal with the perennial questions other than variations on RTFM |
| 07:13 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 07:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
which tends to be a common failure mode of a lot of experienced folks on the mailing lists |
| 07:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
the other common one being simply not responding to those at all |
| 07:14 |
|
rangi |
i feel like 90% of the questions |
| 07:15 |
|
rangi |
should be directed to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxh[…]epermissions.html |
| 07:15 |
|
rangi |
seriously |
| 07:16 |
|
rangi |
if you dont understand file permissions and/or cron .. don't run a server |
| 07:16 |
|
rangi |
helping them is actually not helping them |
| 07:16 |
|
rangi |
unless you are willing to spend a couple of weeks teaching them the basics of a posix system |
| 07:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
but I enjoy that! also, I love that the walls in my room are so cushiony! |
| 07:17 |
|
rangi |
becaus otherwsie be it 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year from now, they will either be pwnd, have a disk die, or trashed their system in some other way |
| 07:18 |
|
rangi |
its a problem i dont have a good solution to |
| 07:19 |
|
rangi |
LUGs seem to have disappeared |
| 07:20 |
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| 07:23 |
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gmcharlt |
the irony of all this is that Koha has never been easier to install |
| 07:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 07:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
maybe that's the problem |
| 07:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
:) |
| 07:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
anyway, time to wander off to bed |
| 07:32 |
|
rangi |
i think thats part of it, the koha barrier is really low, which means inexperienced users are trying it :) |
| 07:32 |
|
rangi |
sleep well |
| 08:13 |
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| 09:42 |
|
cait |
good morning #koha |
| 10:45 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 10:45 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.0°C (12:40 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:24 |
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jcamins |
What should I make for breakfast that involves lychee? |
| 12:24 |
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| 12:25 |
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cait |
hm |
| 12:25 |
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cait |
that's a hard one |
| 12:25 |
|
cait |
why not just eat them fresh together with some toast? |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
No bread for toast. |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
Oh, and one additional requirement: |
| 12:26 |
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jcamins |
I don't want to have to have the oven on for more than a half hour. |
| 12:41 |
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| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
cait: I made lychee crumble. |
| 15:05 |
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jcamins |
I highly recommend it. |
| 15:13 |
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cait |
:) |
| 15:27 |
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| 18:14 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #170 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 18:30 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.7°C (8:30 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
| 18:30 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 27.0°C (8:30 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:36 |
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druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
| 18:36 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 35.3°C (1:35 PM CDT on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:37 |
|
cait |
! |
| 18:40 |
|
druthb |
yep. pretty toasty out here. |
| 18:47 |
|
cait |
@quote random |
| 18:47 |
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huginn` |
cait: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 06:23 PM, September 16, 2009) |
| 18:47 |
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| 18:47 |
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druthb |
drojf! |
| 18:48 |
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drojf |
druthb! :) |
| 18:48 |
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drojf |
#koha! |
| 18:52 |
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| 18:53 |
|
cait |
drojf! |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #170: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/170/ |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10510 - OPAC's renew selected link has glitchy icon |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10029 - CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10428: undefined check in add additem.pl |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10346 - "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items" |
| 18:54 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10510 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OPAC's renew selected link has glitchy icon |
| 18:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Marc Veron: Bug 5894: Display all titles when confirming copy of items from cart to list |
| 18:54 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10029 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve |
| 18:54 |
|
drojf |
cait! |
| 18:54 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10428 trivial, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , undefined check in add additem.pl |
| 18:54 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10346 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items" |
| 18:54 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5894 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Adding multiple items from a cart to a list shows only the first title |
| 19:00 |
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| 19:07 |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
| 19:07 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 26.6°C (9:07 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:09 |
|
tcohen |
hi cait |
| 19:09 |
|
cait |
hi tcohen :) |
| 19:12 |
|
bgkriegel |
hi all |
| 19:13 |
|
bgkriegel |
cait: after 9902, we need 10088? |
| 19:25 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: hm i had looked at rangi's last comment |
| 19:25 |
|
cait |
and assumed we didn't |
| 19:25 |
|
cait |
but maybe i was wrong |
| 19:26 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel++ |
| 19:27 |
|
bgkriegel |
I think that if we put 9902 then the problem from 10088 arises |
| 19:27 |
|
cait |
that might be |
| 19:27 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 19:27 |
|
cait |
i will test if 10088 applies |
| 19:27 |
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bgkriegel |
it applies |
| 19:28 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 19:28 |
|
cait |
it fixes staged ordering? |
| 19:29 |
|
bgkriegel |
i'm trying to test it |
| 19:30 |
|
cait |
me too |
| 19:33 |
|
cait |
bug 10088 |
| 19:33 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, software error when filling a basket with staged record |
| 19:33 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: seems ok to me |
| 19:33 |
|
cait |
with the patch applied |
| 19:34 |
|
cait |
m acqcreateitem was not set for creating items |
| 19:36 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: yes, we need 10088 - i can reproduce the perl error |
| 19:37 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel++ |
| 19:43 |
|
bgkriegel |
cait++ |
| 19:43 |
|
bgkriegel |
ok, move on |
| 20:14 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #171 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
hm someon around who could test somethin in master for me? |
| 20:15 |
|
cait |
i have the problem that for my items the homebranch/holdingbranch/branch information does no longer show in the opac detail page |
| 20:16 |
|
bgkriegel |
Location? |
| 20:16 |
|
wahanui |
i guess Location is /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml |
| 20:17 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: the location column is always empty in my database |
| 20:18 |
|
cait |
it's rather puzzling, the marc view shows the branches nicely |
| 20:19 |
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bgkriegel |
strange, I can see it http://snag.gy/q8v2R.jpg |
| 20:20 |
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cait |
i wonder if one of the various related prefs is doing it |
| 20:21 |
|
cait |
i have the separate tab display activated |
| 20:21 |
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bgkriegel |
well, just trying to change one of them... and got an error |
| 20:21 |
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bgkriegel |
that one |
| 20:21 |
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wahanui |
i guess that one is down more often than up |
| 20:22 |
|
cait |
oh? |
| 20:23 |
|
cait |
what's the error? |
| 20:24 |
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bgkriegel |
a template error when saving OpacSeparateHoldings |
| 20:24 |
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bgkriegel |
OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch |
| 20:25 |
|
bgkriegel |
changing to separate/don't separete |
| 20:25 |
|
cait |
ah |
| 20:25 |
|
cait |
hm maybe that was the syspref editor? can you paste? |
| 20:25 |
|
bgkriegel |
yes |
| 20:26 |
|
bgkriegel |
paste? |
| 20:26 |
|
wahanui |
i think paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 20:26 |
|
bgkriegel |
http://paste.koha-community.org/155 |
| 20:28 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: the logs don't show anything suspicious - but my branches are stll not showing up :( |
| 20:28 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel: i think what you have is a bug in the syspref eidtor maybe |
| 20:28 |
|
cait |
it looks familiar |
| 20:29 |
|
bgkriegel |
you can change that syspref? |
| 20:29 |
|
cait |
ye |
| 20:29 |
|
cait |
ss |
| 20:29 |
|
cait |
but no change on the detail page |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
it shouldn't make a difference... but are you using xslt? |
| 20:30 |
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bgkriegel |
yes |
| 20:32 |
|
cait |
hmm i have an idea |
| 20:32 |
|
cait |
singlebranchmode was activated |
| 20:32 |
|
cait |
phew |
| 20:32 |
|
cait |
thx bgkriegel for testing |
| 20:33 |
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bgkriegel |
no problem :) |
| 20:33 |
|
cait |
got ma panicking a bit :) |
| 20:34 |
|
cait |
bgkriegel++ |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #171: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/171/ |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9113: fix handling of certain characters by item batch modification tool |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9533: batch item modification form now shows default field values only by request |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 9902 - item subfields not populating |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file. |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10384: fall back to normal authentication if LDAP server is not available |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Sonia LEMAIRE: Bug 9519: fix code for Italian language search limiter |
| 20:55 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9519: DBRev 3.10.09.001 |
| 20:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9113 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , batch modification removes + |
| 20:55 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9533 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batch item modification should ignore defaults |
| 20:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9902 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , item subfields not populating |
| 20:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, software error when filling a basket with staged record |
| 20:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10384 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when LDAP connexion fails |
| 20:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9519 trivial, P5 - low, ---, sonia.lemaire, Pushed to Stable , Wrong language code for Italian in the advanced search language limitations |
| 21:03 |
|
cait |
hm.... |
| 21:03 |
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* cait |
wonders if we could get some more opinions on 9811 |
| 21:03 |
|
cait |
bug 9811 |
| 21:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patrons search improvements |
| 21:03 |
|
* cait |
leaves that for the logs and the curious :) |
| 21:03 |
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bgkriegel |
hehe |
| 21:03 |
|
bgkriegel |
night cait |
| 21:20 |
|
bgkriegel |
bye |
| 23:29 |
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