Time Nick Message 00:00 dcook La langue de bois...neat phrase 00:05 pianohacker jcamins: something that may be relevant to your bug: the intended behavior of the transparent message is that it disappears upon keypress or mouse movement, but only after a delay. If things are close enough together, there's a bug that could cause that behavior not to work 00:05 pianohacker Good night, all 00:16 tweetbot [off] twitter: @aestivus: "My new library system went live, FINALLY. http://t.co/jlLTVjLNNa #KohaILS" 02:00 dcook \o tcohen 02:01 dcook Twitter is great. I had never heard of Apache Derby before... 02:01 tcohen dcook o/ 02:01 * jcamins imagines a roller derby-style web browser event. 02:01 tcohen small footprint / java ? WTF? 02:01 dcook P.S. @aestivus's styling and XSLTs were all done by the librarian there 02:02 * dcook wishes more librarians were like @aestivus 02:07 tcohen night jcamins, dcook 02:07 dcook night tcohen 02:11 wizzyrea does anyone have really good notes about authority matching? 02:11 jcamins Nope. 02:11 jcamins Or, at least, I don't. 02:11 wizzyrea hrm 02:11 dcook Nopes 02:11 dcook That reminds me of something I was thinking of recently though... 02:12 dcook What do you mean when you refer to authority matching? 02:14 wizzyrea sorry I think I meant merging authorities - but I think I got what I needed out of the manual 02:15 wizzyrea well I know I do 02:15 wizzyrea so forget I asked. ; 02:15 wizzyrea ;) 02:15 dcook Not at all. I'm curious now! 02:15 dcook Because I was thinking recently about merging authorities :p 02:15 dcook There's stuff in the manual about that?\ 02:15 jcamins dcook: different kind of merging. 02:15 dcook Mmm 02:16 jcamins Merging multiple authority records is implemented by bug 5202. 02:16 dcook I gotcha 02:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records 02:16 dcook Oh? 02:16 jcamins What Koha calls authority merging is actually "updating bibs when the authority changes." 02:16 dcook Awesome!!! 02:16 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook 02:16 dcook Yeah, I remember the first time I figured that out 02:16 dcook There was some hair pulling out I think ;) 02:17 wizzyrea they probably mean what you just linked jcamins 02:17 dcook Althoug you can use the merge_authorities.pl script manually to merge authorities, me thinks 02:17 jcamins dcook: you can, if you have command line access. 02:17 dcook Although I think it's just a 1 -> 1 relationship 02:17 dcook This looks like you could merge many into one? 02:18 dcook Oh wait, nvm 02:19 dcook jcamins++ 02:20 dcook I was just saying the other day how something like this should exist 02:21 dcook I suppose doing multiple merges at once would be more difficult, but this would certainly help a lot 02:21 dcook This looks like a proper merge 02:21 dcook I suppose I was thinking of "mark X number of records, and redirect their connections to Y authority record" 02:22 dcook redirect = re-map 02:29 mrx Hi, is there a way to access 2nd value of 020 field in a Marc record? E.g if one 020 field contains 13 digit ISBN and the other 020 field contain 10 digit code, how to access 2nd 020 value? Whenever I try to fetch 020 field it always returns the 1st value 02:37 bgkriegel mrx: are you using ExtractValue()? 02:43 mrx no, I'm using something like GetMarcBiblio(fetchrow_hashref())->field("020") 02:44 jcamins mrx: retrieve it into a list, and then address the second. 02:47 mrx oh ok, thanks jcamins 03:37 dcook Hmm, any advice on how to build classes in Koha? 03:42 dcook Hmm Class::Accessor looks like it has a constructor with it.. 03:47 dcook Class::Accessor it is 04:11 cait mornin 04:12 dcook hey ya cait 04:13 cait hi dcook :) 05:58 * kf waves 05:58 dcook That was fast :p 05:58 kf it was not a long way :) 06:00 kf papa++ 06:01 * magnuse waves 06:01 magnuse dcook: talking of classes, have you seen the work being done on DBIx::Class? 06:02 magnuse bug 8798 06:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, In Discussion , Add the use of DBIx::Class 06:02 kf oh good point magnuse 06:04 dcook Mmm, not recently 06:04 dcook I looked at it a while ago though 06:05 * dcook takes another look 06:07 magnuse there is something about DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS gmcharlt said he would be looking into 06:08 dcook Yeah, I was just reading that part 06:08 dcook Hmm 06:08 dcook DBIx::Class does look like it would be useful 06:11 dcook I suppose in that case...I would still create a new object...but use the DBIx::Class object during my own construction... 06:11 dcook Rather than a hashref from the DB 06:11 dcook Although that almost seems counter-intuitive 06:11 dcook Actually, it does seem counter-intuitive 06:12 dcook But maybe my design is bad and it certainly isn't the norm... 06:12 dcook Eventually used the source for Class::Accessor as inspiration for how to make my own constructor then used it to make the accessors 06:12 kf why not use class:accessor? 06:13 dcook I am, but I needed to over-ride its basic constuctor 06:13 dcook So that I could put in the HTTP::OAI::Harvester object as one of its properties 06:14 kf interesting 06:14 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad 06:15 kf koha has a spinelabel css 06:15 kf but it can't be edited frm the system prefrences? 06:15 dcook Not sure? 06:15 * dcook has GetRecord and ListRecords working so far. Just 4 more verbs to go... 06:19 * magnuse cheers dcook on 06:19 dcook Thanks magnuse :) 06:20 dcook At first, I figured that we'd just need ListRecords, but that makes a lot of assumptions 06:20 * kf cheers too :) 06:20 dcook Best to make an interface that allows the use of all 6 verbs me thinks 06:21 dcook Although maybe I should dial it back soon and look at doing the transformations and inserting into Koha.. 06:21 dcook Damned scope creep... 06:21 magnuse hehe 06:22 dcook I want to have something in place for Kohacon... 06:22 dcook Still a little ways away I suppose 06:22 dcook I should be documenting this so I can speak about it better 06:22 * dcook will just stand and scroll through IRC logs for his presentation 06:22 dcook That could work, right? 06:22 dcook ;) 06:23 kf totally :) 06:23 magnuse sure! 06:24 dcook I like your positivity ;) 06:24 kf we are supportive 06:27 dcook kf++ 06:27 dcook magnuse++ 06:27 dcook 3 verbs down 3 to go 06:27 dcook I should make lunch 06:27 dcook Seeing that it's 4:27pm 06:27 dcook It's too bright for this time of day...which is great...means spring/summer approach :D 06:28 magnuse heh 06:29 magnuse interesting time for lunch... ;-) 06:32 dcook I have a tendency to focus and forget about regular human things :p 06:53 kf grr 06:53 kf itemcallnumber doesn't want to print! 06:53 dcook Hmm 06:53 dcook It might be because of the name 06:53 dcook I've had that issue before 06:55 dcook Hmm, or maybe I'm crazy 06:55 dcook Nvm 06:55 dcook My issue was someone tried "callnumber" rather than "itemcallnumber", I think 06:55 kf i have itemcallnumber 06:55 kf and 953o 07:08 christophe_c hello #koha 07:08 dcook salut christophe_c, lds 07:09 christophe_c bonjour dcook ;-) 07:12 lds bonjour/hello #koha 07:23 dcook Hmm, looks like my dev VM is broken... 07:23 dcook Ooops 07:23 dcook Or...it suddenly started working... 07:28 dcook All right. Home time. 07:28 dcook Bonne journée/soirée 07:35 kf hm label creator is barely translated 07:35 kf lots of issues there :( 07:39 gaetan_B hello 07:39 wahanui privet, gaetan_B 07:43 kf opachiddenitems-- 08:17 magnuse kf: 953o and itemcallnumber? shouldn't that be 952? 08:17 kf typo here but not there 08:17 kf but right now fighting a different thing 08:21 * magnuse cheers kf on in her battles 08:23 kf bug 10676 08:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10676 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OpacHiddenItems not working for restricted 08:24 magnuse http://schema.koha-community.org/ says "Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012" - is that correct? and if it is, who can update it? 08:30 kf hm rangi maybe? 08:38 magnuse yeah, sounds familiar 09:45 magnuse wahanui: forget next gbsd 09:45 wahanui magnuse: I forgot next gbsd 09:45 magnuse next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-09_Global_bug_squashing_day 09:45 magnuse next gbsd? 09:45 wahanui rumour has it next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-09_Global_bug_squashing_day 09:45 kf yay :) 09:49 tweetbot [off] twitter: @libriotech: "There's going to be a #KohaILS Global bug squashing day one week from now! http://t.co/1XO7FEq4UM" 09:51 kf KOHA? 09:51 wahanui KOHA is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 09:58 magnuse koha? 09:58 wahanui i heard koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 10:25 magnuse i want HTTPS for my customers - can anyone recommend a good CA for wildcard SSL certificates? 12:23 oleonard Hi #koha 12:30 tcohen hi #koha 12:30 tcohen jcamins: on bug 5202 you note problems with authorities frameworks 12:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records 12:51 oleonard Oh yay wizzyrea updated the Bootstrap OPAC demo to the latest version! 12:51 oleonard http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ 12:51 oleonard Gotta figure out why the cart shows an empty count bubble when it first starts up. 12:53 tweetbot [off] twitter: @nengard: "@aestivus Woo hoo! Congrats #KohaILS" 13:00 magnuse oh my, that does look good, oleonard 13:05 jcamins oleonard: it's missing a #basketcount span:empty CSS declaration. 13:05 oleonard Thanks magnuse. I think it's getting close to being usable. 13:06 magnuse oleonard: yay! 13:08 magnuse i hope it gets into master sooner rather than later, so we can "accidentally discover" any bugs and missing things before pi 13:10 oleonard I'm still unsure how to handle multiple controls like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/aijBMmWR 13:10 oleonard Should some be hidden? Should they be grouped into menus? 13:11 jcamins I think the list stuff should be hidden until someone taps it. 13:11 jcamins Unless that's a list view, in which case there should be a title. 13:11 oleonard That's the view of a list's contents 13:11 jcamins Okay. Never mind. 13:11 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 13:13 oleonard I wonder if we should even offer bulk actions at that screen size. 13:16 jcamins Possibly not. 13:22 oleonard We'll need to be able to add a "delete from this list" button for each item in a list (something we should have anyway) 13:22 oleonard I wonder if there is a bug for that 13:24 oleonard Bug 7257. Good job, past self. 13:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list 13:34 tcohen quick poll: who's working on fixing reserves? 13:35 tcohen @search reserves 13:35 huginn` tcohen: There were no matching configuration variables. 13:35 tcohen @query reserves 13:35 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2927 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Saving on enter 13:35 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checking out on-hold item to someone else replaces item-level hold with next available 13:35 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2898 normal, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , C4::Letters::parseletter kills performance in notice jobs 13:35 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5800 normal, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Hold Policy "home library only" incompatible with CircControl "patron home library" 13:35 huginn` tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3054 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds/reserves accountlines record contains NULL itemnumber 13:37 jeffkelly Hello! We are trying to install Koha on Ubuntu server at our school, with very little experience. We followed the instructions as per http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages but once we try to access for the web installation we receive the message: System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator. 13:38 jeffkelly Has anyone experienced such an issue? Suggestions? 13:38 jcamins jeffkelly: yes. You probably need to configure your DNS. 13:38 jcamins Or change your virtual host to match your DNS. 13:38 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right 13:39 jcamins That happens when you are accessing the OPAC instead of the staff client. 13:40 magnuse yeah, try to get tp the staff client, where you can run through the web part of the install process 13:40 jcamins The virtual hosts are configured in /etc/apache2/sites-available/[instancename] 13:41 jeffkelly I see. I will double check our DNS and virtual host, as well as making sure we are trying to access staff vs opac. Thanks! 13:43 kf_away tcohen: that shoudl give youan answer :( 14:00 magnuse @wunder boo 14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 14:00 magnuse @wunder marseille 14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 32.0°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 14:00 magnuse gah! 14:00 magnuse @wunder konstanz 14:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.2°C (3:15 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 14:00 magnuse gah! 14:03 kf gah. 14:11 gaetan_B bye ! 14:13 jeffkelly Hmm, as far as I can tell...everything looks alright and we are trying to access the staff client. Is there anything else specific we can try? 14:18 kf jeffkelly: what is the url you are trying? 14:19 kf only opac gives maintenance, staff never does 14:20 jeffkelly we tried setting it up exactly as the instructions say...so http://library-intra.myDNSname.org:80 14:21 kf 80 is opac 14:21 kf try 8080 14:21 kf oh hm 14:22 kf intra... not sure then - which instructions did you use? 14:22 jeffkelly http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 14:25 magnuse jeffkelly: try pasting your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/something 14:25 magnuse paste? 14:25 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org 14:29 jeffkelly I am acutally on a seperate device...and I'm not typing it all out.. 14:31 bigbrovar_ 3rd day trying to figure out why issn matching rule of the marc stage import doesn't work. I have gone through each and every record to ensure the issn of the records in koha matches with the mrc file to be imported and the match.. after all said and done.. I just can't figure out what I could be doing wrong. I am so tempted to file a bug (running 3-12 debian squeeze packages) 14:32 bigbrovar_ and yes I did ran koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library (numerous times ) 14:35 bigbrovar_ so depressed right now.. i have already spent like close to 72 (cummulative) hours on this.. and I just can't figure what is wrong. 14:37 bigbrovar_ from the docs the matching rule seems straight forward.. if it finds a match for say issn .. add ignore the records, add the items.. issn exist in imported marc as it does in the koha database.. why report 0 records with at least one match? 14:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #2: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/2/ 14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items 14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description 14:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #345 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #345: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/345/ 14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items 14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description 14:59 tcohen are tag and and authorities cloud usable out of the box? 14:59 tcohen nengard? 14:59 wahanui nengard is fast 15:00 nengard tag cloud should be 15:00 nengard if you have it enabled in the sys prefs 15:00 nengard the authorities cloud is a french only thing as far as i know so i don't have an answer on that 15:00 tcohen how can i generate the tag cloud? 15:00 nengard it's automatic 15:01 nengard if you have tags enabled and you have some tags on titles 15:01 nengard the cloud should be there 15:01 nengard http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/opacenhancedcontent.html#opactagging 15:01 tcohen no cloud or browser field/subfield defined : nothing to do 15:04 nengard ?? 15:12 kf tcohen: there are 2 clouds 15:12 kf what is labelled cloud int hte prefs will need a scrpit 15:12 kf it kind of works a bit for marc21 15:12 kf you could give it a test run 15:12 kf but it's not related to the tag cloud 15:18 kf bigbrovar_: filing a bug might be good - or trying the mailng list. maybe supply screenshots and example records 15:35 tcohen kf++ 15:36 kf yay! 15:54 oleonard We've moved on from Google Groups to StackExchange I see... 15:55 jcamins oleonard: StackExchange != mailing list, so I think this is progress. 15:56 oleonard What do you mean? 15:56 jcamins oleonard: at least the proposal is for a system that isn't identical to one we already have. 15:57 tcohen the main problem is maintenance of course 15:57 tcohen (duplicate questions, etc) 15:58 jcamins tcohen: from my point of view, the main problem is that I am not following any additional fora. 15:59 jcamins Argh. I keep losing count of pages. 16:08 tcohen yes, it would mean the list plus ask 16:22 oleonard Did I have a work in progress for Bug 7257 resulting in that screenshot, or did I just mock it up? 16:22 oleonard Need to know whether I should be mad at myself for letting that work in progress disappear from my computer and my memory. 16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list 16:30 oleonard *whew* 16:30 * oleonard hopes all those folks weren't probed by aliens while they were gone. 16:31 JesseM :) 16:32 gmcharlt oleonard: I dare not speak of our experience on that other side... 16:33 * gmcharlt shivers 16:40 oleonard Whenever I get an email from someone suggesting I add a link to our web site I'm suspicious about their motives. The latest one is from this domain, which I'm not entirely convinced isn't a fake site: http://www.goodwincc.org/ 16:41 oleonard Would someone have created a whole fake site to make their "helpful suggestion" sound legit? 16:41 oleonard Do I need to lay off the tin foil hats? 16:42 jcamins oleonard: call your local library and see if they're for real? 16:42 * jcamins chortles. 16:42 gmcharlt jcamins: oleonard already talks to himself too much in channel... ;) 16:43 oleonard Does a place like this really not mention what town their in, and list their address as "372 Main Street – 627–9025" 16:43 oleonard s/their/they're, sorry. 16:43 jcamins gmcharlt: oleonard probably. It's a community center for the people who go to the church it's attached to. 16:45 jcamins gmcharlt: whoops, I never finished typing my response to you. 16:45 jcamins Let me try that again. 16:45 jcamins gmcharlt: that's why I'm encouraging him to use a different communication technology. 16:49 gmcharlt oleonard: yeah, upon looking at it and trying (and failing) to Google what city or even state they're in ... it does look off to me too 16:50 * oleonard pulls off another sheet of tin foil and offers it to gmcharlt 16:51 jcamins oleonard: respond and ask that for their exact address and phone number? 16:53 oleonard My curiosity may yet convince me to do so 16:54 jcamins oleonard: they're not a 501(c)(3) or incorporated in Ohio under any name that includes "Goodwin." 17:07 gmcharlt oleonard: what's weird is that most of the (relatively few) references I'm finding to them are about how they've contributed links for other websites 17:07 oleonard Yeah I found that too 17:08 gmcharlt what's veddy-veddy interesting though, is that while I have found a Goodwin Community center in North Charleston, NC ... its street address and phone number are cmopletely different 17:09 gmcharlt er, SC, not NC 17:12 druthb @quote random 17:12 huginn` druthb: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011) 17:12 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 17:13 oleonard git checkout oleonardtimeline; git reset --hard 2013-08-02 05:00:00 17:14 oleonard I must not be in the right git repository 17:15 druthb git checkout druthb; git reset—hard 2013-08-02 15:59:59 17:15 druthb hm. That didn't work, either. 17:15 tcohen oleonard, what do u think of making the "Z39.50 search" button (on the first cataloging page) a dropdown to choose the desired framework? 17:16 tcohen (and even change the wording to something like "New from Z39.50 search") 17:16 oleonard tcohen: Maybe a split button, so that if you want you can just click the main part of the button to use the default? 17:17 tcohen i like that 17:17 tcohen it would make cataloging from z39.50 two clicks faster 17:18 tcohen and might be a better workaround for bug 9742 17:18 jcamins bug 9742? 17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Confirm overlay prompt always appears on creating record from Z39.50 17:18 jcamins Ah. 17:19 tcohen if you are editing a record, it is understandable that you are prompted to confirm 17:19 tcohen if you're creating a new one, you shouldnt 17:20 * tcohen sees they are not completely related topics :-/ 17:20 tcohen oleonard: can you point me to a split button example currently used in Koha? 17:21 oleonard addbiblio.pl 17:21 wahanui i guess addbiblio.pl is a tangled mess, and every time we touch it we break something. 17:21 tcohen thanks 17:23 oleonard http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/components.html#buttonDropdowns 17:29 tcohen "New from Z39.50" ? 17:30 oleonard That makes sense to me 17:30 jcamins "... the thrilling new standard by the makers of PQF and CCL." 17:33 tcohen hh 17:35 kf lol 17:36 kf you all are always trying to send me to bed 17:36 kf why is noone sending me home? 17:36 druthb kf? 17:36 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. 17:36 druthb hush, wahanui. 17:36 wahanui druthb: what? 17:36 druthb kf, go home! 17:36 kf thx druthb 17:37 rambutan I go home. 17:38 * kf waves goodbye 18:04 * cait waves 18:04 druthb cait! 18:04 cait I've got fresh estragon 18:04 druthb drojf! 18:04 cait any suggestions what to do with it almighty #koha? 18:04 drojf druthb! 18:04 cait druthb! drojf! 18:04 drojf cait! 18:05 drojf a nice vodka estragon 18:05 druthb hm.. "Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's _Waiting for Godot_." 18:05 jcamins I have no idea what estragon is. 18:05 druthb Terragon, jcamins. 18:05 jcamins druthb: ah. 18:06 jcamins cait: put it on thinly-sliced potatoes and bake them. 18:06 jcamins Or make a salad dressing. 18:06 jcamins Or apply to fish. 18:06 drojf Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot. 18:06 cait i neither have fish nor potatos right now 18:06 cait and i get potatos next week with the veggy box 18:07 cait would it work with gnocchi? 18:07 jcamins It would. 18:07 jcamins But I thought you didn't have potatoes? 18:07 drojf Artemisia dracunculus sounds much more attractive 18:07 cait i have gnocchi :) 18:09 cait jcamins: more hints? 18:09 jcamins cait: hmm. 18:10 jcamins I'd probably make a butter sauce with it. 18:10 cait hmm 18:10 cait i got butter 18:11 cait how do you make a butter sauce? 18:11 cait cooking with butter is not something i do often 18:12 jcamins I just melt the butter, add the herbs, boil for a bit, and then pour over the gnocchi. 18:12 cait ah ok 18:12 jcamins Half stick of butter per lb of gnocchi. 18:12 cait that sounds easy 18:12 jcamins Oh, and I'd add garlic. 18:12 cait that sounds sgood 18:12 jcamins We add garlic to everything. 18:12 cait :) 18:13 cait you leave the terragon in in small pieces i guess? 18:13 jcamins Yup. 18:14 cait k thx :) 18:15 druthb garlic is useful for keeping away vampires. 18:15 druthb oop. garlic? 18:15 druthb wahanui: garlic? 18:15 wahanui garlic is useful for keeping away vampires. 18:15 cait yeah, and one of the good sites of living alone 18:15 druthb thought so. 18:19 tcohen oleonard around? 18:19 * oleonard waves 18:20 tcohen http://snag.gy/gRebC.jpg 18:21 oleonard Looks good 18:21 tcohen thanks 18:21 tcohen it doesn't work, but looks good 18:22 oleonard :) 18:22 tcohen kidding, submitting the patch 18:22 tcohen added a parameter to PopupZ3950 (framework 18:22 tcohen ) 18:22 oleonard I often get something to look the way I want it before I even get it to work. It helps me know if I've got the workflow corrrect 18:23 tcohen you're right about that 18:36 tcohen bug 10678 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50 18:39 oleonard Oh, the prog theme OPAC is broken in IE10? Nice. 18:39 oleonard Cart and Lists buttons look like crap. 18:40 oleonard Probably because of some stupid CSS necessary to accommodate older versions :P 18:41 maximep can't say we ever tested it in ie10 :P 18:41 maximep or anything 18:41 wahanui anything is possible with enough development work :) 18:42 maximep :p 18:42 gmcharlt wahanui: complete cross-browser compatibility? I really question that! ;) 18:42 wahanui gmcharlt: excuse me? 18:43 cait :) 18:44 tcohen put no javascript or css on plain HTML4 and you're almost there :-P 18:44 * oleonard is sure IE would think of a way to mess that up 18:44 tcohen heh 18:45 * cait agrees 18:45 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend 18:45 oleonard You too tcohen 18:46 * oleonard puts his patch for Bug 7257 into a time machine and sends it back to November 2011 18:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list 18:49 pianohacker oleonard: Do you have any sort of convention for what to call the i (or index) parameter passed to a $.each function if you don't need it for anything? 18:49 oleonard No 18:49 pianohacker I realized quite belatedly that _ is not a good idea :) 18:49 jcamins pianohacker: if you don't need it, you can leave it out. 18:49 pianohacker jcamins: Yes, but then you need to refer to the actual value with this, which can get hairy fast 18:50 jcamins pianohacker: I think I've seen (undef, val), actually. That said, I always use idx and val. 18:50 pianohacker fair enough 18:51 pianohacker I like undef though 18:51 jcamins That might only work in certain browsers, or something like that. 19:40 oleonard khall++ # for doing signoffs today 19:43 tweetbot [off] twitter: @SanOrSuzanne: "Best thing about migrating to #KohaILS? Removing 7 binders worth of manuals for the previous ILS from my office. #buhbye @ByWaterSolution" 19:47 drojf gmcharlt++ 19:47 cait gmcharlt++ 19:47 drojf signing off+adding a test. thanks! 19:52 bag ha that's a pretty good twitter feed 19:52 bag @kohails++ 19:52 huginn` bag: downloading the Perl source 19:52 bag whoops 19:52 bag koha++ 19:54 * druthb chuckles at bag. 19:54 druthb bag++ #I needed a chuckle. 19:55 bag you are welcome - I have plenty of more dumb things :) 19:55 tweetbot [off] twitter: @nengard: "@sanorsuzanne remember ... don't print the #KohaILS manual :) it's updated way too often online to keep up with in print ;)" 19:55 bag so druthb get this - Sonja is all the way down with her disseration and the profs have signed off on it - but the grad division has one little problem 19:55 bag the page numbers are too low on the page 19:56 jcamins Ha! I was going to guess the margin was wrong. 19:56 bag which is easy to fix in Word - but not in Latex 19:56 oleonard "I have to crane my neck way down just to see them!" 19:56 bag my comment was - tell them to get longer paper :) 19:57 bag the problem with moving them is it throws a few of her diagrams out of whack - which is way more important than the page numbers 20:00 druthb yeah, that'll be no fun to fix. 20:00 * drojf would like to add something useful but latex is really long ago 20:00 jcamins bag: I've actually heard of a lot of candidates who encountered problems due to margins after getting their thesis/dissertation approved. 20:00 bag yeah I think the grad division gets their kicks out of it 20:01 bag it's a common thing here 20:01 druthb They have to have one last opportunity to annoy you…besides the bills. That lasts forever. 20:03 jcamins bag: can she keep the figures on the pages she wants by adjusting the tolerance or badness at the same time as adjusting fancyhdr? I did that once or twice. 20:04 bag not sure - but I know she will figure it out 20:04 bag I think she's got it now - only took her like an hour and half :) 20:05 bag the final page count is 106 pages on a B_type of Thompson's Group F (that's the quick version of the title) 20:05 pianohacker an hour spent saying words like "oh shoot" and "dernit" I'm sure 20:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #169 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:30 oleonard Welp, see you later #koha. 20:48 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b874f7d63894693c9c3f2a3d93ee119bc3b01486> 20:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 21:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #169: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/169/ 21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin 21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin 21:10 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield 21:10 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 6553 - Parentheses in Corporate author break tracings 21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present 21:10 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail 21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield 21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, P3, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings 21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10497 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail 21:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1344 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 8 days 7 hr ago) 21:22 pianohacker bye all 21:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #3: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/3/ 21:26 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #346 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #346: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/346/ 21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean 21:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: FIXED) 21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #49: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/49/ 21:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:30 tcohen how do you call the arrow pointing down on a drop down? 21:30 jcamins Caret. 21:30 tcohen i'm trying to describe this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=20082 on the help page 21:33 tcohen "Click 'New from Z39.50' (optionally, you can choose a framework to which import the record by clicking the caret on the right)" 21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/24/ 21:33 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests 21:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing 21:35 jcamins Works for me. 21:35 tcohen thanks 21:40 tcohen patch sent 21:41 * tcohen has just realized he doesn't usually take the help into account when submitting patches... 21:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #4: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/4/ 21:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean 21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #50: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/50/ 21:43 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean 21:59 tcohen this is what Koha shows if an invalid framework code is passed to addbiblio http://snag.gy/eMdLl.jpg 21:59 tcohen what would the best possible behaviour in such scenario be? 22:00 tcohen a warning? set the framework to the default? both? 22:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1344: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1344/ 22:22 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests 22:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing 22:58 tcohen gmcharlt: your post about perl 5.10 is really nice 22:58 gmcharlt tcohen: thanks 23:56 tweetbot [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Playing around with Coce #code4lib #KohaILS http://t.co/nSHpRNXFbo"