Time  Nick         Message
23:56 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Playing around with Coce #code4lib #KohaILS http://t.co/nSHpRNXFbo"
22:58 gmcharlt     tcohen: thanks
22:58 tcohen       gmcharlt: your post about perl 5.10 is really nice
22:22 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing
22:22 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests
22:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1344: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1344/
22:00 tcohen       a warning? set the framework to the default? both?
21:59 tcohen       what would the best possible behaviour in such scenario be?
21:59 tcohen       this is what Koha shows if an invalid framework code is passed to addbiblio http://snag.gy/eMdLl.jpg
21:43 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
21:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #50: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/50/
21:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
21:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #4: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/4/
21:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:41 * tcohen     has just realized he doesn't usually take the help into account when submitting patches...
21:40 tcohen       patch sent
21:35 tcohen       thanks
21:35 jcamins      Works for me.
21:34 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing
21:33 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests
21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/24/
21:33 tcohen       "Click 'New from Z39.50' (optionally, you can choose a framework to which import the record by clicking the caret on the right)"
21:30 tcohen       i'm trying to describe this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=20082 on the help page
21:30 jcamins      Caret.
21:30 tcohen       how do you call the arrow pointing down on a drop down?
21:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #49: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/49/
21:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: FIXED)
21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add path to did you mean
21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:28 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #346: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/346/
21:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #346 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:26 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
21:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #3: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/3/
21:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:22 pianohacker  bye all
21:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1344 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 8 days 7 hr ago)
21:10 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10497 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
21:10 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, P3, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings
21:10 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
21:10 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail
21:10 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present
21:10 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 6553 - Parentheses in Corporate author break tracings
21:10 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin
21:10 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin
21:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #169: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/169/
20:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
20:48 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b874f7d63894693c9c3f2a3d93ee119bc3b01486>
20:30 oleonard     Welp, see you later #koha.
20:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #169 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:05 pianohacker  an hour spent saying words like "oh shoot" and "dernit" I'm sure
20:05 bag          the final page count is 106 pages on a B_type of Thompson's Group F (that's the quick version of the title)
20:04 bag          I think she's got it now - only took her like an hour and half :)
20:04 bag          not sure - but I know she will figure it out
20:03 jcamins      bag: can she keep the figures on the pages she wants by adjusting the tolerance or badness at the same time as adjusting fancyhdr? I did that once or twice.
20:01 druthb       They have to have one last opportunity to annoy you…besides the bills.  That lasts forever.
20:01 bag          it's a common thing here
20:00 bag          yeah I think the grad division gets their kicks out of it
20:00 jcamins      bag: I've actually heard of a lot of candidates who encountered problems due to margins after getting their thesis/dissertation approved.
20:00 * drojf      would like to add something useful but latex is really long ago
20:00 druthb       yeah, that'll be no fun to fix.
19:57 bag          the problem with moving them is it throws a few of her diagrams out of whack - which is way more important than the page numbers
19:56 bag          my comment was - tell them to get longer paper :)
19:56 oleonard     "I have to crane my neck way down just to see them!"
19:56 bag          which is easy to fix in Word - but not in Latex
19:56 jcamins      Ha! I was going to guess the margin was wrong.
19:55 bag          the page numbers are too low on the page
19:55 bag          so druthb get this - Sonja is all the way down with her disseration and the profs have signed off on it - but the grad division has one little problem
19:55 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "@sanorsuzanne remember ... don't print the #KohaILS manual :) it's updated way too often online to keep up with in print ;)"
19:55 bag          you are welcome - I have plenty of more dumb things :)
19:54 druthb       bag++  #I needed a chuckle.
19:54 * druthb     chuckles at bag.
19:52 bag          koha++
19:52 bag          whoops
19:52 huginn`      bag: downloading the Perl source
19:52 bag          @kohails++
19:52 bag          ha that's a pretty good twitter feed
19:47 drojf        signing off+adding a test. thanks!
19:47 cait         gmcharlt++
19:47 drojf        gmcharlt++
19:43 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @SanOrSuzanne: "Best thing about migrating to #KohaILS? Removing 7 binders worth of manuals for the previous ILS from my office. #buhbye @ByWaterSolution"
19:40 oleonard     khall++ # for doing signoffs today
18:51 jcamins      That might only work in certain browsers, or something like that.
18:51 pianohacker  I like undef though
18:50 pianohacker  fair enough
18:50 jcamins      pianohacker: I think I've seen (undef, val), actually. That said, I always use idx and val.
18:49 pianohacker  jcamins: Yes, but then you need to refer to the actual value with this, which can get hairy fast
18:49 jcamins      pianohacker: if you don't need it, you can leave it out.
18:49 pianohacker  I realized quite belatedly that _ is not a good idea :)
18:49 oleonard     No
18:49 pianohacker  oleonard: Do you have any sort of convention for what to call the i (or index) parameter passed to a $.each function if you don't need it for anything?
18:46 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
18:46 * oleonard   puts his patch for Bug 7257 into a time machine and sends it back to November 2011
18:45 oleonard     You too tcohen
18:45 tcohen       bye #koha, have a nice weekend
18:45 * cait       agrees
18:44 tcohen       heh
18:44 * oleonard   is sure IE would think of a way to mess that up
18:44 tcohen       put no javascript or css on plain HTML4 and you're almost there :-P
18:43 cait         :)
18:42 wahanui      gmcharlt: excuse me?
18:42 gmcharlt     wahanui: complete cross-browser compatibility?  I really question that! ;)
18:42 maximep      :p
18:41 wahanui      anything is possible with enough development work :)
18:41 maximep      or anything
18:41 maximep      can't say we ever tested it in ie10 :P
18:40 oleonard     Probably because of some stupid CSS necessary to accommodate older versions :P
18:39 oleonard     Cart and Lists buttons look like crap.
18:39 oleonard     Oh, the prog theme OPAC is broken in IE10? Nice.
18:36 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50
18:36 tcohen       bug 10678
18:23 tcohen       you're right about that
18:22 oleonard     I often get something to look the way I want it before I even get it to work. It helps me know if I've got the workflow corrrect
18:22 tcohen       )
18:22 tcohen       added a parameter to PopupZ3950 (framework
18:22 tcohen       kidding, submitting the patch
18:22 oleonard     :)
18:21 tcohen       it doesn't work, but looks good
18:21 tcohen       thanks
18:21 oleonard     Looks good
18:20 tcohen       http://snag.gy/gRebC.jpg
18:19 * oleonard   waves
18:19 tcohen       oleonard around?
18:15 druthb       thought so.
18:15 cait         yeah, and one of the good sites of living alone
18:15 wahanui      garlic is useful for keeping away vampires.
18:15 druthb       wahanui:  garlic?
18:15 druthb       oop.   garlic?
18:15 druthb       garlic is useful for keeping away vampires.
18:14 cait         k thx :)
18:13 jcamins      Yup.
18:13 cait         you leave the terragon in in small pieces i guess?
18:12 cait         :)
18:12 jcamins      We add garlic to everything.
18:12 cait         that sounds sgood
18:12 jcamins      Oh, and I'd add garlic.
18:12 cait         that sounds easy
18:12 jcamins      Half stick of butter per lb of gnocchi.
18:12 cait         ah ok
18:12 jcamins      I just melt the butter, add the herbs, boil for a bit, and then pour over the gnocchi.
18:11 cait         cooking with butter is not something i do often
18:11 cait         how do you make a butter sauce?
18:10 cait         i got butter
18:10 cait         hmm
18:10 jcamins      I'd probably make a butter sauce with it.
18:09 jcamins      cait: hmm.
18:09 cait         jcamins: more hints?
18:07 cait         i have gnocchi :)
18:07 drojf        Artemisia dracunculus sounds much more attractive
18:07 jcamins      But I thought you didn't have potatoes?
18:07 jcamins      It would.
18:07 cait         would it work with gnocchi?
18:06 cait         and i get potatos next week with the veggy box
18:06 cait         i neither have fish nor potatos right now
18:06 drojf        Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot.
18:06 jcamins      Or apply to fish.
18:06 jcamins      Or make a salad dressing.
18:06 jcamins      cait: put it on thinly-sliced potatoes and bake them.
18:05 jcamins      druthb: ah.
18:05 druthb       Terragon, jcamins.
18:05 jcamins      I have no idea what estragon is.
18:05 druthb       hm..  "Estragon is one of the two main characters from Samuel Beckett's _Waiting for Godot_."
18:05 drojf        a nice vodka estragon
18:04 drojf        cait!
18:04 cait         druthb! drojf!
18:04 drojf        druthb!
18:04 cait         any suggestions what to do with it almighty #koha?
18:04 druthb       drojf!
18:04 cait         I've got fresh estragon
18:04 druthb       cait!
18:04 * cait       waves
17:38 * kf         waves goodbye
17:37 rambutan     I go home.
17:36 kf           thx druthb
17:36 druthb       kf, go home!
17:36 wahanui      druthb: what?
17:36 druthb       hush, wahanui.
17:36 wahanui      kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
17:36 druthb       kf?
17:36 kf           why is noone sending me home?
17:36 kf           you all are always trying to send me to bed
17:35 kf           lol
17:33 tcohen       hh
17:30 jcamins      "... the thrilling new standard by the makers of PQF and CCL."
17:30 oleonard     That makes sense to me
17:29 tcohen       "New from Z39.50" ?
17:23 oleonard     http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/components.html#buttonDropdowns
17:21 tcohen       thanks
17:21 wahanui      i guess addbiblio.pl is a tangled mess, and every time we touch it we break something.
17:21 oleonard     addbiblio.pl
17:20 tcohen       oleonard: can you point me to a split button example currently used in Koha?
17:20 * tcohen     sees they are not completely related topics :-/
17:19 tcohen       if you're creating a new one, you shouldnt
17:19 tcohen       if you are editing a record, it is understandable that you are prompted to confirm
17:18 jcamins      Ah.
17:18 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Confirm overlay prompt always appears on creating record from Z39.50
17:18 jcamins      bug 9742?
17:18 tcohen       and might be a better workaround for bug 9742
17:17 tcohen       it would make cataloging from z39.50 two clicks faster
17:17 tcohen       i like that
17:16 oleonard     tcohen: Maybe a split button, so that if you want you can just click the main part of the button to use the default?
17:16 tcohen       (and even change the wording to something like "New from Z39.50 search")
17:15 tcohen       oleonard, what do u think of making the "Z39.50 search" button (on the first cataloging page) a dropdown to choose the desired framework?
17:15 druthb       hm.  That didn't work, either.
17:15 druthb       git checkout druthb; git reset—hard 2013-08-02 15:59:59
17:14 oleonard     I must not be in the right git repository
17:13 oleonard     git checkout oleonardtimeline; git reset --hard 2013-08-02 05:00:00
17:12 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn`.
17:12 huginn`      druthb: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011)
17:12 druthb       @quote random
17:09 gmcharlt     er, SC, not NC
17:08 gmcharlt     what's veddy-veddy interesting though, is that while I have found a Goodwin Community center in North Charleston, NC ... its street address and phone number are cmopletely different
17:07 oleonard     Yeah I found that too
17:07 gmcharlt     oleonard: what's weird is that most of the (relatively few) references I'm finding to them are about how they've contributed links for other websites
16:54 jcamins      oleonard: they're not a 501(c)(3) or incorporated in Ohio under any name that includes "Goodwin."
16:53 oleonard     My curiosity may yet convince me to do so
16:51 jcamins      oleonard: respond and ask that for their exact address and phone number?
16:50 * oleonard   pulls off another sheet of tin foil and offers it to gmcharlt
16:49 gmcharlt     oleonard: yeah, upon looking at it and trying (and failing) to Google what city or even state they're in ... it does look off to me too
16:45 jcamins      gmcharlt: that's why I'm encouraging him to use a different communication technology.
16:45 jcamins      Let me try that again.
16:45 jcamins      gmcharlt: whoops, I never finished typing my response to you.
16:43 jcamins      gmcharlt: oleonard probably. It's a community center for the people who go to the church it's attached to.
16:43 oleonard     s/their/they're, sorry.
16:43 oleonard     Does a place like this really not mention what town their in, and list their address as "372 Main Street – 627–9025"
16:42 gmcharlt     jcamins: oleonard already talks to himself too much in channel... ;)
16:42 * jcamins    chortles.
16:42 jcamins      oleonard: call your local library and see if they're for real?
16:41 oleonard     Do I need to lay off the tin foil hats?
16:41 oleonard     Would someone have created a whole fake site to make their "helpful suggestion" sound legit?
16:40 oleonard     Whenever I get an email from someone suggesting I add a link to our web site I'm suspicious about their motives. The latest one is from this domain, which I'm not entirely convinced isn't a fake site: http://www.goodwincc.org/
16:33 * gmcharlt   shivers
16:32 gmcharlt     oleonard: I dare not speak of our experience on that other side...
16:31 JesseM       :)
16:30 * oleonard   hopes all those folks weren't probed by aliens while they were gone.
16:30 oleonard     *whew*
16:22 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
16:22 oleonard     Need to know whether I should be mad at myself for letting that work in progress disappear from my computer and my memory.
16:22 oleonard     Did I have a work in progress for Bug 7257 resulting in that screenshot, or did I just mock it up?
16:08 tcohen       yes, it would mean the list plus ask
15:59 jcamins      Argh. I keep losing count of pages.
15:58 jcamins      tcohen: from my point of view, the main problem is that I am not following any additional fora.
15:57 tcohen       (duplicate questions, etc)
15:57 tcohen       the main problem is maintenance of course
15:56 jcamins      oleonard: at least the proposal is for a system that isn't identical to one we already have.
15:56 oleonard     What do you mean?
15:55 jcamins      oleonard: StackExchange != mailing list, so I think this is progress.
15:54 oleonard     We've moved on from Google Groups to StackExchange I see...
15:36 kf           yay!
15:35 tcohen       kf++
15:18 kf           bigbrovar_: filing a bug might be good - or trying the mailng list. maybe supply screenshots and example records
15:12 kf           but it's not related to the tag cloud
15:12 kf           you could give it a test run
15:12 kf           it kind of works a bit for marc21
15:12 kf           what is labelled cloud int hte prefs will need a scrpit
15:12 kf           tcohen: there are 2 clouds
15:04 nengard      ??
15:01 tcohen       no cloud or browser field/subfield defined : nothing to do
15:01 nengard      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/opacenhancedcontent.html#opactagging
15:01 nengard      the cloud should be there
15:01 nengard      if you have tags enabled and you have some tags on titles
15:00 nengard      it's automatic
15:00 tcohen       how can i generate the tag cloud?
15:00 nengard      the authorities cloud is a french only thing as far as i know so i don't have an answer on that
15:00 nengard      if you have it enabled in the sys prefs
15:00 nengard      tag cloud should be
14:59 wahanui      nengard is fast
14:59 tcohen       nengard?
14:59 tcohen       are tag and and authorities cloud usable out of the box?
14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description
14:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items
14:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #345: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/345/
14:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #345 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update search group description
14:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update multiple copies to multiple items
14:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #2: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/2/
14:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:37 bigbrovar_   from the docs the matching rule seems straight forward.. if it finds a match for say issn .. add ignore the records, add the items.. issn exist in imported marc as it does in the koha database.. why report 0 records with at least one match?
14:35 bigbrovar_   so depressed right now.. i have already spent like close to 72 (cummulative) hours on this.. and I just can't figure what is wrong.
14:32 bigbrovar_   and yes I did ran koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library (numerous times )
14:31 bigbrovar_   3rd day trying to figure out why issn matching rule of the marc stage import doesn't work. I have gone through each and every record to ensure the issn of the records in koha matches with the mrc file to be imported and the match.. after all said and done.. I just can't figure out what I could be doing wrong. I am so tempted to file a bug (running 3-12 debian squeeze packages)
14:29 jeffkelly    I am acutally on a seperate device...and I'm not typing it all out..
14:25 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
14:25 magnuse      paste?
14:25 magnuse      jeffkelly: try pasting your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/something
14:22 jeffkelly    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
14:22 kf           intra... not sure then - which instructions did you use?
14:21 kf           oh hm
14:21 kf           try 8080
14:21 kf           80 is opac
14:20 jeffkelly    we tried setting it up exactly as the instructions say...so http://library-intra.myDNSname.org:80
14:19 kf           only opac gives maintenance, staff never does
14:18 kf           jeffkelly: what is the url you are trying?
14:13 jeffkelly    Hmm, as far as I can tell...everything looks alright and we are trying to access the staff client.  Is there anything else specific we can try?
14:11 gaetan_B     bye !
14:03 kf           gah.
14:00 magnuse      gah!
14:00 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.2°C (3:15 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse      @wunder konstanz
14:00 magnuse      gah!
14:00 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 32.0°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse      @wunder marseille
14:00 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on August 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
14:00 magnuse      @wunder boo
13:43 kf_away      tcohen: that shoudl give youan answer :(
13:41 jeffkelly    I see.  I will double check our DNS and virtual host, as well as making sure we are trying to access staff vs opac.  Thanks!
13:40 jcamins      The virtual hosts are configured in /etc/apache2/sites-available/[instancename]
13:40 magnuse      yeah, try to get tp the staff client, where you can run through the web part of the install process
13:39 jcamins      That happens when you are accessing the OPAC instead of the staff client.
13:38 wahanui      jcamins: that doesn't look right
13:38 jcamins      Or change your virtual host to match your DNS.
13:38 jcamins      jeffkelly: yes. You probably need to configure your DNS.
13:38 jeffkelly    Has anyone experienced such an issue?  Suggestions?
13:37 jeffkelly    Hello!  We are trying to install Koha on Ubuntu server at our school, with very little experience.  We followed the instructions as per http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages but once we try to access for the web installation we receive the message: System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator.
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3054 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds/reserves accountlines record contains NULL itemnumber
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5800 normal, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Hold Policy "home library only" incompatible with CircControl "patron home library"
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2898 normal, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , C4::Letters::parseletter kills performance in notice jobs
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checking out on-hold item to someone else replaces item-level hold with next available
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2927 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Saving on enter
13:35 tcohen       @query reserves
13:35 huginn`      tcohen: There were no matching configuration variables.
13:35 tcohen       @search reserves
13:34 tcohen       quick poll: who's working on fixing reserves?
13:24 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
13:24 oleonard     Bug 7257. Good job, past self.
13:22 oleonard     I wonder if there is a bug for that
13:22 oleonard     We'll need to be able to add a "delete from this list" button for each item in a list (something we should have anyway)
13:16 jcamins      Possibly not.
13:13 oleonard     I wonder if we should even offer bulk actions at that screen size.
13:11 wahanui      Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
13:11 jcamins      Okay. Never mind.
13:11 oleonard     That's the view of a list's contents
13:11 jcamins      Unless that's a list view, in which case there should be a title.
13:11 jcamins      I think the list stuff should be hidden until someone taps it.
13:10 oleonard     Should some be hidden? Should they be grouped into menus?
13:10 oleonard     I'm still unsure how to handle multiple controls like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/aijBMmWR
13:08 magnuse      i hope it gets into master sooner rather than later, so we can "accidentally discover" any bugs and missing things before pi
13:06 magnuse      oleonard: yay!
13:05 oleonard     Thanks magnuse. I think it's getting close to being usable.
13:05 jcamins      oleonard: it's missing a #basketcount span:empty CSS declaration.
13:00 magnuse      oh my, that does look good, oleonard
12:53 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "@aestivus Woo hoo! Congrats #KohaILS"
12:51 oleonard     Gotta figure out why the cart shows an empty count bubble when it first starts up.
12:51 oleonard     http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/
12:51 oleonard     Oh yay wizzyrea updated the Bootstrap OPAC demo to the latest version!
12:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records
12:30 tcohen       jcamins: on bug 5202 you note problems with authorities frameworks
12:30 tcohen       hi #koha
12:23 oleonard     Hi #koha
10:25 magnuse      i want HTTPS for my customers - can anyone recommend a good CA for wildcard SSL certificates?
09:58 wahanui      i heard koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
09:58 magnuse      koha?
09:51 wahanui      KOHA is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
09:51 kf           KOHA?
09:49 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @libriotech: "There's going to be a #KohaILS Global bug squashing day one week from now! http://t.co/1XO7FEq4UM"
09:45 kf           yay :)
09:45 wahanui      rumour has it next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-09_Global_bug_squashing_day
09:45 magnuse      next gbsd?
09:45 magnuse      next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-09_Global_bug_squashing_day
09:45 wahanui      magnuse: I forgot next gbsd
09:45 magnuse      wahanui: forget next gbsd
08:38 magnuse      yeah, sounds familiar
08:30 kf           hm rangi maybe?
08:24 magnuse      http://schema.koha-community.org/ says "Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012" - is that correct? and if it is, who can update it?
08:23 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10676 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OpacHiddenItems not working for restricted
08:23 kf           bug 10676
08:21 * magnuse    cheers kf on in her battles
08:17 kf           but right now fighting a different thing
08:17 kf           typo here but not there
08:17 magnuse      kf: 953o and itemcallnumber? shouldn't that be 952?
07:43 kf           opachiddenitems--
07:39 wahanui      privet, gaetan_B
07:39 gaetan_B     hello
07:35 kf           lots of issues there :(
07:35 kf           hm label creator is barely translated
07:28 dcook        Bonne journée/soirée
07:28 dcook        All right. Home time.
07:23 dcook        Or...it suddenly started working...
07:23 dcook        Ooops
07:23 dcook        Hmm, looks like my dev VM is broken...
07:12 lds          bonjour/hello #koha
07:09 christophe_c bonjour dcook ;-)
07:08 dcook        salut christophe_c, lds
07:08 christophe_c hello #koha
06:55 kf           and 953o
06:55 kf           i have itemcallnumber
06:55 dcook        My issue was someone tried "callnumber" rather than "itemcallnumber", I think
06:55 dcook        Nvm
06:55 dcook        Hmm, or maybe I'm crazy
06:53 dcook        I've had that issue before
06:53 dcook        It might be because of the name
06:53 dcook        Hmm
06:53 kf           itemcallnumber doesn't want to print!
06:53 kf           grr
06:32 dcook        I have a tendency to focus and forget about regular human things :p
06:29 magnuse      interesting time for lunch... ;-)
06:28 magnuse      heh
06:27 dcook        It's too bright for this time of day...which is great...means spring/summer approach :D
06:27 dcook        Seeing that it's 4:27pm
06:27 dcook        I should make lunch
06:27 dcook        3 verbs down 3 to go
06:27 dcook        magnuse++
06:27 dcook        kf++
06:24 kf           we are supportive
06:24 dcook        I like your positivity ;)
06:23 magnuse      sure!
06:23 kf           totally :)
06:22 dcook        ;)
06:22 dcook        That could work, right?
06:22 * dcook      will just stand and scroll through IRC logs for his presentation
06:22 dcook        I should be documenting this so I can speak about it better
06:22 dcook        Still a little ways away I suppose
06:22 dcook        I want to have something in place for Kohacon...
06:21 magnuse      hehe
06:21 dcook        Damned scope creep...
06:21 dcook        Although maybe I should dial it back soon and look at doing the transformations and inserting into Koha..
06:20 dcook        Best to make an interface that allows the use of all 6 verbs me thinks
06:20 * kf         cheers too :)
06:20 dcook        At first, I figured that we'd just need ListRecords, but that makes a lot of assumptions
06:19 dcook        Thanks magnuse :)
06:19 * magnuse    cheers dcook on
06:15 * dcook      has GetRecord and ListRecords working so far. Just 4 more verbs to go...
06:15 dcook        Not sure?
06:15 kf           but it can't be edited frm the system prefrences?
06:15 kf           koha has a spinelabel css
06:14 wahanui      interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:14 kf           interesting
06:13 dcook        So that I could put in the HTTP::OAI::Harvester object as one of its properties
06:13 dcook        I am, but I needed to over-ride its basic constuctor
06:12 kf           why not use class:accessor?
06:12 dcook        Eventually used the source for Class::Accessor as inspiration for how to make my own constructor then used it to make the accessors
06:12 dcook        But maybe my design is bad and it certainly isn't the norm...
06:11 dcook        Actually, it does seem counter-intuitive
06:11 dcook        Although that almost seems counter-intuitive
06:11 dcook        Rather than a hashref from the DB
06:11 dcook        I suppose in that case...I would still create a new object...but use the DBIx::Class object during my own construction...
06:08 dcook        DBIx::Class does look like it would be useful
06:08 dcook        Hmm
06:08 dcook        Yeah, I was just reading that part
06:07 magnuse      there is something about DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS gmcharlt said he would be looking into
06:05 * dcook      takes another look
06:04 dcook        I looked at it a while ago though
06:04 dcook        Mmm, not recently
06:02 kf           oh good point magnuse
06:02 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, In Discussion , Add the use of DBIx::Class
06:02 magnuse      bug 8798
06:01 magnuse      dcook: talking of classes, have you seen the work being done on DBIx::Class?
06:01 * magnuse    waves
06:00 kf           papa++
05:58 kf           it was not a long way :)
05:58 dcook        That was fast :p
05:58 * kf         waves
04:13 cait         hi dcook :)
04:12 dcook        hey ya cait
04:11 cait         mornin
03:47 dcook        Class::Accessor it is
03:42 dcook        Hmm Class::Accessor looks like it has a constructor with it..
03:37 dcook        Hmm, any advice on how to build classes in Koha?
02:47 mrx          oh ok, thanks jcamins
02:44 jcamins      mrx: retrieve it into a list, and then address the second.
02:43 mrx          no, I'm using something like GetMarcBiblio(fetchrow_hashref())->field("020")
02:37 bgkriegel    mrx: are you using ExtractValue()?
02:29 mrx          Hi, is there a way to access 2nd value of 020 field in a Marc record? E.g if one 020 field contains 13 digit ISBN and the other 020 field contain 10 digit code, how to access 2nd 020 value? Whenever I try to fetch 020 field it always returns the 1st value
02:22 dcook        redirect = re-map
02:21 dcook        I suppose I was thinking of "mark X number of records, and redirect their connections to Y authority record"
02:21 dcook        This looks like a proper merge
02:21 dcook        I suppose doing multiple merges at once would be more difficult, but this would certainly help a lot
02:20 dcook        I was just saying the other day how something like this should exist
02:19 dcook        jcamins++
02:18 dcook        Oh wait, nvm
02:17 dcook        This looks like you could merge many into one?
02:17 dcook        Although I think it's just a 1 -> 1 relationship
02:17 jcamins      dcook: you can, if you have command line access.
02:17 dcook        Althoug you can use the merge_authorities.pl script manually to merge authorities, me thinks
02:17 wizzyrea     they probably mean what you just linked jcamins
02:16 dcook        There was some hair pulling out I think ;)
02:16 dcook        Yeah, I remember the first time I figured that out
02:16 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook
02:16 dcook        Awesome!!!
02:16 jcamins      What Koha calls authority merging is actually "updating bibs when the authority changes."
02:16 dcook        Oh?
02:16 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records
02:16 dcook        I gotcha
02:16 jcamins      Merging multiple authority records is implemented by bug 5202.
02:15 dcook        Mmm
02:15 jcamins      dcook: different kind of merging.
02:15 dcook        There's stuff in the manual about that?\
02:15 dcook        Because I was thinking recently about merging authorities :p
02:15 dcook        Not at all. I'm curious now!
02:15 wizzyrea     ;)
02:15 wizzyrea     so forget I asked. ;
02:15 wizzyrea     well I know I do
02:14 wizzyrea     sorry I think I meant merging authorities - but I think I got what I needed out of the manual
02:12 dcook        What do you mean when you refer to authority matching?
02:11 dcook        That reminds me of something I was thinking of recently though...
02:11 dcook        Nopes
02:11 wizzyrea     hrm
02:11 jcamins      Or, at least, I don't.
02:11 jcamins      Nope.
02:11 wizzyrea     does anyone have really good notes about authority matching?
02:07 dcook        night tcohen
02:07 tcohen       night jcamins, dcook
02:02 * dcook      wishes more librarians were like @aestivus
02:01 dcook        P.S. @aestivus's styling and XSLTs were all done by the librarian there
02:01 tcohen       small footprint / java ? WTF?
02:01 * jcamins    imagines a roller derby-style web browser event.
02:01 tcohen       dcook o/
02:01 dcook        Twitter is great. I had never heard of Apache Derby before...
02:00 dcook        \o tcohen
00:16 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @aestivus: "My new library system went live, FINALLY. http://t.co/jlLTVjLNNa #KohaILS"
00:05 pianohacker  Good night, all
00:05 pianohacker  jcamins: something that may be relevant to your bug: the intended behavior of the transparent message is that it disappears upon keypress or mouse movement, but only after a delay. If things are close enough together, there's a bug that could cause that behavior not to work
00:00 dcook        La langue de bois...neat phrase