IRC log for #koha, 2013-06-24

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00:02 jcamins Oh, yes! I've been wanting the web services! :D
00:02 jcamins :D
00:02 jcamins ... but I can't remember why.
00:03 wizzyrea for git bz maybe?
00:03 rangi or you signoff tool thingy
00:03 jcamins rangi: oh, right! Automated reporting.
00:04 jcamins "I started testing this, and here's what I found: ..."
00:04 rangi right
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00:40 dcook wb tcohen
00:40 dcook For anyone interested in metathesauri, taxonomies, medical taxonomies, and maybe even data visualizations:
00:41 dcook‎
00:41 dcook[…]sualizer/
00:43 dcook Might be useful to anyone with medical library clients (or any interest in developing biomedical information systems)
00:43 dcook There are even some Perl modules out there :p
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01:23 druthb o/
01:25 dcook \o
01:25 cjh o/*\o
01:32 druthb :)
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02:37 eythian 3.12.01 packages published.
02:38 dcook Sweet. Now I can try upgrading a package install for the first time :D
02:38 dcook I seem to remember there was something funny with the Plugin paths in the Apache config...
02:38 eythian it'll be a little bit anti-climactic I'm afraid.
02:38 dcook Would these packages fix that or does that need to be done manually?
02:39 eythian I dunno, I don't think it does anything with plugins. There is a patch about this I need to look at.
02:39 eythian However, if you've changed something in /etc it won't undo your changes.
02:43 dcook So the package upgrade updates all the source code, but I suppose any other code/files generated through koha-create wouldn't be affected
02:43 dcook Which I suppose would probably just be the apache config in etc?
02:44 wizzyrea and koha-conf
02:44 wizzyrea well anything in /etc/koha/sites/name
02:44 eythian dcook: well yes, but also /etc is considered special by dpkg
02:45 dcook Cool beans
02:45 dcook Thanks for the info :)
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02:50 tcohen hi eythian
02:50 eythian hello
02:52 tcohen so packages for 3.12.1 are ready?
02:52 tcohen I forgot to email you about that. sorry!
02:52 eythian yeah, I uploaded them about 15 minutes ago
02:54 tcohen yay koha-common upgraded :-D
03:02 tcohen bug 9890 eythian
03:02 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9890 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Fix the new plugin system for package installs
03:02 eythian ah yeah
03:03 tcohen i also would like to note bug 8773, not the patch itself (which I reworked based on the problem you found)
03:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
03:03 tcohen but the inclusion of an /etc/default/koha-common file
03:04 eythian oh, that plugin patch is really simple.
03:04 tcohen (with its init script modification
03:04 tcohen )
03:05 eythian 3.10.07 packages published
03:06 tcohen bye #koha, gotta get some sleep
03:06 eythian later
03:11 eythian is git-bz not working for anyone else?
03:11 eythian I get a big dump of information about being a suspicious person.
03:11 wizzyrea ohhh did the bugzilla upgrade break it?
03:12 eythian quite possibly
03:13 eythian it looks like there's some CSRF protection introduced that's upsetting things
03:13 rangi i can live with that :)
03:13 rangi we were doing half arsed screen scraping crud anyway
03:14 * jcamins will not submit any patches that aren't getting paid for specifically without git-bz.
03:14 eythian isn't there an API for this sort of thing?
03:14 rangi yep
03:14 rangi 2
03:14 rangi jsonrpc and xmlrpc
03:15 eythian and they allow attachements?
03:15 eythian because we should use them, if so.
03:15 eythian or it might be a simple enough fix to make sure we get the right token from somewhere and pass taht along
03:15 rangi[…]ml#add_attachment
03:16 rangi[…]ml#add_attachment  <-- the current version
03:17 rangi i had to hack bugzilla to turn the token check off last major upgrade
03:17 rangi im not super keen on doing that again
03:18 eythian could be a fun little project to learn both interacting with git and with bugzilla.
03:18 rangi < #    check_token_data($token, 'create_attachment', 'index.cgi') if $token;
03:18 rangi ---
03:18 rangi >     check_token_data($token, 'create_attachment', 'index.cgi') if $token;
03:19 rangi if someone promises to go clean up bugzilla if/when we get messed up with a malicious attachment ... i can comment that out again
03:20 rangi otherwise fixing git-bz seems a much better idea
03:21 eythian I suspect though that the time saved by being able to use bugzilla overall is significant greater than the time spent cleaning up attachments due to the disabled token check.
03:21 eythian s/use bugzilla/use git bz/
03:21 rangi your volunteering then?
03:21 wizzyrea get the popcorn
03:21 wahanui
03:23 eythian my other alternative is to wait until you get annoyed at tedious manual attaching and just do it anyway, I don't think I have any patches to attach for a while :)
03:24 rangi its not just bad attachements, its anything you can change from that attachments.cgi page
03:25 cjh wizzyrea: living dangerously.
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03:32 dcook Lunch time...
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03:57 Oak kia ora #koha
04:07 JDatTeTakere Kia ora
04:18 dcook wheezy?
04:18 wahanui i heard wheezy was testing
04:18 dcook wheezy?
04:18 wahanui i heard wheezy was testing
04:19 eythian dcook: having an asthma attack?
04:19 dcook Just a little bit
04:19 dcook According to[…]on_Debian_Squeeze, Wheezy is supported now? No need to manually install a different tinymce?
04:21 eythian yeah
04:21 eythian that's why it says that :)
04:21 dcook Sweet :)
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05:41 eythian arg why won't you link, authorities‽ Why‽
05:41 cait dunno?
05:42 dcook Not enough black magic?
05:42 eythian oh, hi there cait
05:42 cait hi eythian :)
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05:52 * magnuse waves
05:52 dcook hey cait and magnuse :)
05:53 magnuse hiya dcook
06:10 * cait waves
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06:28 eythian ah hah! Authorities aren't working because I'd forgotten to put the patch to make them work into the branch, and someone had upgraded. Doh.
06:31 dcook Not enough black magic!
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06:31 eythian yep
06:31 marcelr morning #koha
06:31 dcook afternoon, marcelr
06:31 marcelr :)
06:33 cait hi marcelr and dcook
06:33 dcook hey cait
06:34 marcelr hi cait
06:34 * cait looks outside and doubts she will get to work dry
06:34 marcelr real summer?
06:34 dcook It's been raining quite a bit here as well...massive flash floods back in Canada as well
06:34 dcook Apocalypse much?
06:36 eythian yeah, we have people with power still out from Thursday.
06:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.5°C (8:35 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:39 dcook eythian: Ouch...
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06:44 cait bbiab
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06:54 eythian > Number of headings linked:              9333
06:54 eythian that's more like it
06:54 dcook \o/
06:54 magnuse @wunder boo
06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
06:54 magnuse w00t!
06:55 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:55 magnuse moahahaha!
06:55 eythian @wunder nzwn
06:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
06:55 eythian hrm
06:56 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
06:56 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 13.0°C (4:30 PM EST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
06:56 magnuse our summer, your winter ;-)
06:57 dcook Relatively speaking, I suppose it's not so bad
06:57 dcook When it was our summer, your winter was a little colder...
06:57 dcook It's weird having a winter birthday now though
06:57 dcook I was always a fan of summer birthdays
06:58 eythian but christmas at winter is a silly idea.
06:58 dcook Mmm, most definitely
06:58 eythian christmas is when you go to the beach and have a barbeque.
06:59 dcook I've heard of a few Christmases here that were even too hot for that
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07:00 magnuse hehe
07:01 dcook GNOME 3 Failed to Load. Unfortunately GNOME 3 failed to start properly and started in the fallback mode. This most likely means your system (graphics hardawre or driver) is not capable of delivering the full GNOME 3 experience.
07:01 dcook :(
07:01 magnuse ouch
07:02 dcook Fallback mode still looks pretty nice :p
07:02 magnuse yay
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07:03 gaetan_B hello
07:03 dcook hey gaetan_B
07:03 wahanui well, gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
07:04 dcook Will have to look at installing 3.12.01 tomorrow on the new VM :)
07:05 * magnuse will upgrade his customers to 3.12.1 pretty soon if things look ok with it
07:06 eythian wish we could run more people on plain stock Koha, it'd make things easier.
07:07 magnuse it certainly does
07:07 magnuse can't you force them?
07:07 dcook eythian: Meeee too
07:08 magnuse "oh, someone changed something in koha so we can no longer run with customizations"
07:08 dcook hehe
07:08 magnuse "sorry abuot that, but that is how it is now"
07:08 eythian magnuse: unfortunately no. Usually we have their patches in the "going in to koha" process, but sometimes they're silly specific customisations or weirdo template changes.
07:09 magnuse i know the feeling, in a small scale way
07:09 magnuse i have been lucky to be able to run official packages for the last ~1 year, though
07:09 * dcook needs to increase the "going in to koha" process list
07:10 dcook That's great, magnuse :)
07:10 eythian that's pretty nice.
07:11 magnuse some of my customers are really impressed when i send out the monthly "upgrade starts now" email, and then 10 minutes later the "upgrade done" message :-)
07:11 eythian heh
07:12 magnuse (that's a tribute to the packages of course, not related to my being lucky)
07:12 dcook eythian++
07:12 magnuse some have a 2 day downtime for (major) upgrades with their old ils
07:12 magnuse liw++
07:12 magnuse packages++
07:13 magnuse and eythian++ of course
07:13 eythian yeah, I've heard some horror stories with other systems.
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07:13 magnuse yup
07:14 magnuse and of course having local clients is a major pain when it comes to upgrading!
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07:18 reiveune hello
07:18 wahanui hola, reiveune
07:18 eythian magnuse: also they invariably look ugly.
07:18 magnuse too true!
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07:38 eythian was just about to hit "send" on a big writeup about why something isn't possible. Then worked out a really easy way to make it possible. That was close.
07:38 dcook hehe
07:38 dcook Yeah, I was getting to a similar point today
07:38 dcook Thought about making a browser extension instead, but Mozilla never emailed me (or it got caught in some spam filter)
07:38 dcook So I tried something else, and it's working pretty much exactly as I would like it to :)
07:39 eythian cool
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07:40 dcook Hmm, except I'm thinking now it wasn't Mozilla and that there might be an issue with the mail server..
07:41 dcook Or not...:S
07:43 cjh eythian: wow, you were almost wrong.
07:43 eythian cjh: I know! It was a close call!
07:43 cjh glad you came through in the end though.
07:44 eythian I wouldn't want to start something I can't finish.
07:45 dcook Speaking of starting things...
07:45 dcook cjh: I'm totally thinking of actually using koha-gitify sometime soon...ish
07:45 cjh using it, like, for real?
07:45 dcook Well, real-ish
07:45 cjh heh
07:45 dcook I think my partner would kill me if I developed at home
07:45 dcook Hmm...
07:46 dcook But I did just set up a wheezy vm at work..
07:46 dcook So maybe once I get 3.12.01 up, I'll start using koha-gitify for my development at work
07:46 dcook Mhm, I like this idea
07:47 cjh :D
07:47 * cjh still has to write better documentation for it
07:47 dcook I can quiz you as I go, and we can write some improvements :)
07:47 dcook Iirc, it's pretty lightweight, isn't it?
07:47 cjh heh
07:47 cjh yeah, just a single command to run.
07:48 cjh but currently it only has perldoc and it is poorly written :)
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07:48 cjh and a big github 'welcome, here is what you need to do' thing is prettier and more user friendly.
07:48 christophe_c hello #koha
07:48 cjh hi christophe_c
07:48 christophe_c hi cjh
07:48 dcook I'll grab a copy of "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" and we'll write something up ;)
07:49 cjh heh
07:49 dcook All right, I must run along now
07:49 dcook Birthday supper ^_^
07:49 cjh cya, ohhh your birthday?
07:49 dcook Yep :)
07:49 cjh happy birthday dcook! I got you a ++ dcook++
07:50 cjh enjoy dinner.
07:50 dcook Haha. Thanks, cjh :)
07:50 dcook Have a good night. Maybe we can look at gitify tomorrow or the next day if we're lucky
07:50 dcook night all
07:50 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
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07:55 drojf good morning #koha
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07:57 rangi eythian:[…]86dd59aa9925d09d2
07:57 eythian oh, cool. that's certainly worth cherrypicking across.
07:57 eythian OK, I'm done here. I'm going home.
07:57 eythian good night.
07:57 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, eythian.
07:58 eythian I know you will, wahanui.
07:58 wahanui eythian: excuse me?
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07:59 kf good morning #kolha
07:59 kf good morning #koha
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08:08 rangi[…]fs/heads/fishsoup
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08:11 rangi if git bz isnt working for you, you need to upgrade to that version
08:12 kf oooh did you fix t already?
08:13 kf rangi++
08:14 magnuse hiya kf and rangi
08:14 kf hi magnuse :)
08:14 rangi found where someone had fixed it
08:14 kf close enough :)
08:15 rangi i also found a fix for that utf8 thing
08:15 kf oh nice!
08:15 kf did it work?
08:15 rangi yep
08:16 rangi theres a patch too
08:17 magnuse fishsoup?
08:17 rangi[…]115c07110aaec1957
08:21 rangi magnuse: if you get the fishsoup brnach from
08:21 rangi it works without needing to disable bugzillas security
08:21 magnuse sounds good
08:21 magnuse i was just wondering about the name ;-)
08:22 magnuse hm, sometimes you really do want to see the marc for the items too, not just the nice table...
08:25 rangi yep
08:30 magnuse @wunder boo
08:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
08:30 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:30 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
08:30 magnuse hah! ;-)
08:30 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:30 magnuse pfff ;-)
08:31 magnuse and hiya wizzyrea
08:31 kf @wunder Konstanz
08:31 wizzyrea 20 is about perfect :)
08:31 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.1°C (10:30 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:31 kf we are back to cold fromsuper hot :)
08:31 rangi @wunder nzwn
08:31 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:31 wizzyrea hiyas
08:31 rangi like hell its 9
08:32 wizzyrea dunno it was clear this morning and google now told me it was raining.
08:32 wizzyrea not having a lot of confidence in the weather this week
08:33 rangi yeah
08:33 wizzyrea i blame oracle.
08:34 kf oracle--
08:36 wizzyrea
08:36 wizzyrea seems more likely
08:37 wizzyrea
08:37 wizzyrea I just think that's cool. :P
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08:54 magnuse[…]hour_by_hour.html : 5 degrees round about now
08:55 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.3°C (10:43 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
08:55 drojf 20° in bodø? wow :)
08:59 kf moin drojf
08:59 kf @wunder konstanz
08:59 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.4°C (10:55 AM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:59 drojf hi kf
08:59 drojf autum already?
08:59 drojf autumn even
09:00 drojf tcohen++
09:00 drojf bgkriegel++
09:02 magnuse drojf: yup, it's hot up here ;-)
09:06 drojf magnuse: so the snow is finally melting? *hides*
09:07 magnuse drojf: it's mostly long gone
09:07 drojf i know, just kidding ;)
09:08 magnuse we had a super hot couple of weeks at the end of may/beginning of june - most of it went then, even high up in the mountains
09:08 magnuse :-)
09:12 drojf cjh++
09:13 drojf all new kohas covered ;)
09:13 magnuse hehe
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09:13 magnuse yeah, awesome to see that the new rmaints are not skipping any beats
09:14 kf drojf: the rain is back
09:14 drojf kf: you can keep it :)
09:44 magnuse rangi++ for signing off bug 10240
09:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10240 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Offline circulation using HTML5 and IndexedDB
09:45 rangi the nice thing is it doesnt break anything :)
09:46 kf :)
09:48 magnuse yup
09:49 magnuse i started testing it, but didn't have time to finnish, i saw some things that could be improved - i'll add them to the bug for possible future improvements :-)
09:52 drojf it's a cool feature! i wanted to test it too but did not have time so far
10:11 magnuse hiya khall
10:12 kf is it only me or is finding time for anything getting more and more difficult this year? :(
10:13 rangi magnuse: you didn't finnish cos you are norwegian :)
10:14 magnuse rangi: ?
10:15 magnuse kf: yup, time is definitely in short supply this year - must be global warming or summat
10:15 kf excuse?
10:15 wahanui kf: The server at (port 666) appears to be down.
10:15 kf excuse?
10:15 wahanui kf: The server at (port 666) appears to be down.
10:15 kf excuse?
10:15 wahanui kf: The server at (port 666) appears to be down.
10:15 kf hm the excuses are broken.
10:15 rangi 21:49 < magnuse> i started testing it, but didn't have time to finnish,
10:15 kf lol
10:16 rangi bad pun :)
10:16 kf really really bad
10:16 magnuse finnish/finish?
10:17 rangi yep finish
10:17 khall morning all!
10:18 kf hi khall
10:18 rangi magnuse: you typoed finish as finnish .. so i made some pun about you being norwegian
10:18 drojf kf: yes, time for things is well hidden somewhere.
10:19 khall rangi: any idea why I can't view commit diffs on bugzilla anymore? was that function disabled for some reason?
10:19 magnuse rangi: tee hee :-)
10:19 khall i should say patch diffs that is
10:20 rangi ?
10:20 khall mornin kf ; )
10:20 kf i think he means bugzilla
10:20 kf :)
10:20 khall yeah
10:20 khall for example:[…]_bug.cgi?id=10240
10:20 huginn Bug 10240: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Offline circulation using HTML5 and IndexedDB
10:21 rangi dunno
10:21 khall the patch only has a "details" link and a "splinter review" link now, no way to see the diff
10:21 rangi i never ever used it
10:21 rangi just click on the link itself it shows you the patch, which is the diff
10:21 kf khall: the splinter review will show it
10:21 khall I use it constantly ; ) Everytime I submit a patch I check the diff
10:22 rangi the patch is a diff
10:22 khall kf: the splinter review isn't nearly as nice to work with
10:22 rangi[…]ment.cgi?id=16826
10:22 khall rangi: yes, but I really like the side by side color coded layout of the bz diff viewer
10:22 rangi splinter does exactly that
10:22 kf yep
10:22 kf khall: what are you missing in splinter?
10:22 rangi just click all files
10:23 * kf was going to suggest that :)
10:23 khall yeah, I guess if I choose "all files" is does, but that still doesn't explain why the diff link has disappeared!
10:23 kf bz update :)
10:23 kf we got new nice features and they may have changed something else i guess
10:23 khall kf: are you saying bugzilla removed it in a software update?
10:24 kf i dunno
10:24 khall who hanldes the day to day administration of
10:24 rangi me
10:24 rangi its running 4.4
10:24 khall : )=
10:24 khall did you update it over the weekend?
10:26 khall rangi: ^
10:26 rangi yes like kf said, bz update
10:27 * magnuse wanders off to lunch, and to look for any easy signoffs
10:27 kf yay
10:28 kf khall: I think as rangi didn't deactivate it it must be achange from the update
10:28 kf but it's not so bad as we stlil can see the patch fiel and have the splinter review for the colored diff :)
10:28 khall The feature is call "Patch Viewer" and it looks like it depends on the perl module PatchReader version 0.9.4
10:28 khall it's still in there
10:28 khall it wasn't removed!
10:29 khall rangi: do you think you could go in the bz administration and enable Patch Viewer?
10:29 rangi i didnt disable it
10:29 rangi there is nothing to enable
10:30 khall rangi: can you check the version of PatchReader that is installed? Perhaps it's too old and that disabled the feature automatically
10:30 rangi ill look
10:31 khall thanks!
10:33 rangi try that
10:34 kf but doesn't it look the same as splinter?
10:36 magnuse maybe not when you view it on 9 or 12 screens? ;-)
10:37 kf noone has.... oh rght.
10:37 kf :P
10:49 khall magnuse: I think my desk would collapse under the weight ; )
10:49 magnuse of 12?
10:50 khall I think my current desk is barely supporting the six I've got!
10:51 kf maybe mount them on the wall
10:51 kf above the 6
10:54 magnuse better not take any chances - a screen avalanche is probably not a good thing to get buried under :-)
11:00 khall magnuse: that is a most terrifying thought ; )
11:02 kf that would be some heavy code and bugs
11:05 marcelr anyone having problems with attaching a patch with git bz ?? i do at least.. ;)
11:07 marcelr something with an update?
11:10 kf marcelr: make sure you have the newest git bz
11:10 kf from the fishsoup branch in the koha repository
11:10 kf git bz got an update and rangi fxed our branch for git bz
11:11 kf i mean bugzilla got an update... and you will need a newer version of git bz too
11:15 khall rangi: The diff link is back! Thanks!
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11:16 khall however, it appears that I cannot upload patchs with git bz. Is anyone else having this issue?
11:16 magnuse khall: read back about 5 lines ;-)
11:17 khall lol, how'd I miss that! ; )
11:17 magnuse hehe
11:18 * khall isn't really awake yet it seems.
11:30 * magnuse just used the fishsoup branch to attach a patch (which worked), but was not asked to obsolete old patches etc - is that to be expected?
11:31 magnuse kf: i just signed off bug 10379 - should it be set to passed qa, since eythian wrote it for the packages?
11:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10379 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , koha-rebuild-zebra gets noisy if no instances are defined
11:31 jcamins Yes. It automatically obsoletes the patches.
11:32 magnuse jcamins: no, the old patch was not obsoleted automatically
11:32 jcamins In that case, no, not expected.
11:32 magnuse gah
11:33 jcamins At least, not expected by me.
11:35 kf maybe someone could take a look?
11:35 kf because I can't right now
11:35 kf magnuse: you did -e and it didn't give you the lines?
11:35 * jcamins isn't.
11:35 magnuse ah, sorry forgot the -e
11:36 * magnuse should do this more often...
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11:48 marcelr kf: thanks, it works again; why fishsoup btw?
11:48 kf i think that is because of the website of the original author
11:49 jcamins Yup.
11:49 kf
11:49 marcelr ok
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12:22 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:33 tcohen_ morning #koha !
12:35 oleonard Hi tcohen_
12:36 oleonard Dear my library: Please do not delete the circulation staff login while I am on vacation. Thanks.
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12:40 tcohen that was rude oleonard, who did that?
12:41 oleonard Someone who should have known better.
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12:49 tcohen oleonard: did u read my email on bootstrap for the search box?
12:49 oleonard I've been out for a week, so I'm not caught up. I saw it but haven't considered it carefully.
12:50 tcohen alright
12:50 gaetan_B bye !
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13:05 tcohen oleonard:
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13:09 kf hi oleonard - welcome back :)
13:09 * kf offers oleonard the cookie jar - need some?
13:10 oleonard Just the coffee for now, thanks :)
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13:11 tcohen hu kf
13:11 tcohen s/u/i/
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13:14 * druthb pouts.  kf didn't offer the cookie jar to meeeeeee
13:15 kf oh my
13:15 kf druthb: you are a big girl, you can just go and get it and you didn't have your circ staff account deleted :P
13:16 oleonard :D
13:18 tcohen how was your vacation oleonard?
13:18 * druthb goes "Hmpf!"  . . .   and then goes to get a cookie.
13:19 tcohen did u enjoy it? had time to have some rest?
13:19 kf hi tcohen :)
13:21 tcohen hi kf
13:21 oleonard I had a very nice vacation. Went to the beach with my family.
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13:32 kf oleonard: beach sounds nice :)
13:44 magnuse @wunder boo
13:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:45 druthb @wunder 77098
13:45 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 29.4°C (8:44 AM CDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
13:45 druthb Much cooler today than over the weekend; only headed to 34 today.
13:46 jcamins @wunder 11375
13:46 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 27.7°C (9:05 AM EDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 6 PM EDT Tuesday...
13:46 druthb My thermometer on the patio recorded 39C yesterday.
13:46 jcamins Going up to 32 or 33 here.
13:46 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:46 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 26.1°C (9:21 AM EDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
13:47 oleonard I guess I can complain about the heat here only to magnuse
13:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:47 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 6.0°C (10:00 AM ART on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
13:50 magnuse oleonard: :-)
14:01 gmcharlt tcohen++
14:01 gmcharlt bgkriegel++
14:01 gmcharlt cjh++
14:01 tcohen oh, thanks!
14:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9890: fix plugin handling by koha-create and koha-create-dirs <[…]87efaf275e536f953>
14:05 kf tcohen++ bgkriegel++ cjh++ indeed :)
14:07 magnuse tcohen++ bgkriegel++ cjh++ too!
14:13 nengard kf one more question about importing :) where does the match bit go?
14:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #1267 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:13 nengard is this right?
14:13 nengard perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/ --match 1 -file /home/nengard/ol1.mrc
14:13 nengard or this:
14:13 nengard perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/ --match=1 -file /home/nengard/ol1.mrc
14:14 kf nengard: not totally sure - we are using it as cron, but my coworker takes care of setting this up
14:14 kf have you tried it?
14:15 nengard nope, didn't want to screw anything up
14:15 nengard :_
14:15 nengard :)
14:15 kf i would just try it with 1-2 records
14:15 kf then you will quickly see if it works and can still kick them out easily
14:15 kf but i can garantee that it does work - because else all our libraries would be quite unhappy :)
14:16 nengard hehe
14:27 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "trying to match records on import via the command line with no luck ... ideas?" (24 lines) at
14:40 kf hm nengard - why are you using bulkmarkimport?
14:40 kf perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_​tools/bulkmarcimport.-file /home/nengard/kohaclone/oss.mrc --match 1
14:40 kf you should call with your params :)
14:40 nengard oh ... cause that's what i used to import them the first time
14:41 nengard thought we were still using the same file - it too had a --match value
14:41 kf the method I described is using the and commit script
14:41 kf ah, never used that
14:41 kf we use the other 2 scripts
14:41 nengard http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html
14:41 nengard okay!
14:42 kf i think in that case your match should be the field 020/022 not 1, but i haven't used that
14:42 jcamins For what it's worth, I never use bulkmarcimport for anything with matching, because it's not designed for that.
14:44 jcamins @wunder 11375
14:44 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 31.0°C (10:35 AM EDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 6 PM EDT Tuesday...
14:45 nengard kf - i used your method
14:47 nengard and it worked
14:47 nengard it did overlay
14:47 nengard so now to try and do this with a big big file
14:48 kf cool :)
14:51 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "Final import results - for those curious" (42 lines) at
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15:03 druthb Just sayin'.
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15:14 reiveune bye
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15:18 jcamins We have ModOrderItem and ModItemOrder.
15:18 jcamins I don't even want to know what the difference is.
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15:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1267: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1267/
15:28 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9890: fix plugin handling by koha-create and koha-create-dirs
15:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9890 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Fix the new plugin system for package installs
15:28 kf tcohen++
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15:47 pianohacker wooohah, feedly is now completely self-hosted
15:49 jcamins pianohacker: Really? I'd thought it was a proprietary system. Nice to know I was wrong.
15:49 pianohacker oh. well. yes. But now it isn't dependent on google reader to back it
15:49 jcamins Oh.
15:50 pianohacker Which is mainly good to make sure it won't die next Monday, but also for Google knowing a tiny bit less about me :P
15:50 jcamins That's a good thing, because Google Reader is going to be gone in five days or so.
15:50 jcamins Oh, it's only the 24th?
15:50 * jcamins does a happy dance.
15:51 pianohacker I have at this point an hour-by-hour countdown to July 2nd at 10:30 AM, so these things are in very sharp focus :P
15:53 liw magnuse, thank you (highlight from hours ago), and yes, eythian needs most of the thanks these days, I can barely remember what the packages are like (since I don't actually use Koha myself in any way)
15:53 jcamins pianohacker: you hadn't switched to something else?
15:55 pianohacker countdown is for other reasons, I switched to feedly a month ago
15:55 jcamins Ah.
15:55 * pianohacker gets electronics for hearing implant then, is why
15:56 jcamins Yay!
16:03 jcamins @wunder 11375
16:03 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 32.8°C (11:50 AM EDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 6 PM EDT Tuesday...
16:03 * jcamins crosses his fingers and hopes that it stops getting warmer.
16:10 pianohacker amen to that, that's toasty for new york
16:10 tcohen jcamins, can u do me a favor? (a quick one, two giz bz commands)
16:10 jcamins tcohen: what's that?
16:10 wahanui it has been said that that is a good idea.
16:10 tcohen *please :-D*
16:10 tcohen could you apply 10431 and then in 10447 on top of it?
16:10 jcamins We have *got* to get a floor fan.
16:11 jcamins bug 10431
16:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Spanish Zebra language definition file
16:11 jcamins bug 10447
16:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10447 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , Language definitions for 'ru' and 'uk' are not available during install
16:11 jcamins Sure.
16:11 tcohen i want someone else to confirm the patch applies
16:11 jcamins Works fine for me.
16:12 tcohen great, will tell rangi to recheck
16:12 tcohen thanks
16:19 * tcohen hands jcamins one of these[…]l-Wind-Tunnel.jpg
16:19 jcamins tcohen: YES!
16:20 * druthb could use one of those; her hair dryer is just not efficient enough.
16:27 pianohacker A hair dryer that works before you can finish saying its name
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16:28 druthb iknorite?
16:29 druthb As long as my hair has gotten, it'd be a blessing.
16:29 druthb :P
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17:18 jcamins @wunder 11375
17:18 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 34.1°C (1:06 PM EDT on June 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 6 PM EDT Tuesday...
17:18 jcamins This is not "overcast" conditions. This is "torrential downpour" conditions.
17:21 pianohacker humidity seems a bit low for that :)
17:21 jcamins It does. This is *not* 44% humidity.
17:22 jcamins It's 144% humidity.
17:22 pianohacker heh
17:43 tcohen bz upgrade broke git-bz
17:43 jcamins tcohen: use the fishsoup branch.
17:43 tcohen what where?
17:44 jcamins has a fishsoup branch, which works with the new version of bugzilla.
17:45 tcohen hmmm, was using slef's gitorious repo
17:45 jcamins Yeah, that's out of date.
17:45 jcamins It didn't matter with the old version of bugzilla, but apparently it does now.
17:46 jcamins The fishsoup branch is much nicer anyway.
17:47 tcohen errrr
17:47 tcohen it cant' deal with UTF chars
17:47 tcohen in hte patch
17:48 jcamins In that case, apply whatever patch you have that fixes the problem.
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17:50 tcohen ok jcamins
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18:01 tcohen i attached the patch the old way jcamins, it wasnt that important anyway
18:03 jcamins Every patch that was in slef's branch is also in fishsoup, so you must have had an additional patch.
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18:04 tcohen maybe it was broken since the begining
18:04 tcohen don't remember last time we uploaded zebra char mappings with non ascii data
18:05 jcamins Oh, it definitely used to be broken.
18:05 jcamins You mentioned it being broken before, too.
18:05 jcamins I had figured you fixed it since you didn't mention it for a while.
18:06 tcohen heh, i wish i had fixed it
18:06 tcohen i hardly wrote python ever
18:08 tcohen bye #koha
18:09 jcamins oleonard: any suggestions how to style this:
18:10 jcamins I'm thinking I should figure out how to center it, improve the padding on the Save button, and give it a heading.
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18:27 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "oleonard, i tried to follow your post ( on how to change ebook links to icons - but i screwed up somewhere - got a sec to look" (69 lines) at
18:32 oleonard Hard to tell nengard since your demo page has unrelated JS errors
18:33 nengard you know what those are? I didn't do the JS so I'm kind of lost on this and wanted to make it pretty for ala
18:34 oleonard jcamins: It's very hard for me to understand the workflow from that screenshot
18:34 gmcharlt Happy Monday! -[…]dd418d3a441304cf7
18:34 oleonard nengard: Something about a cycle plugin
18:34 nengard oh okay that i can disable - phone back in a sec
18:36 cait hi gmcharlt :)
18:37 cait gmcharlt: that looks like an interesting bug
18:37 cait what's the story? :)
18:38 jcamins oleonard: the idea is you check the boxes on the invoices you want to merge, click the merge button, it brings up the merge dialog at the top, you choose one to merge, and then click the "Merge" button to merge them and view your nice new merged invoice.
18:38 gmcharlt cait: scratching an itch; I needecd a way to purge cached MARC frameworks without bouncing memcached (and thereby also purging current auth sessions)
18:39 oleonard jcamins: Generally speaking we don't put a control related to selected items into a toolbar
18:39 jcamins Oh?
18:39 jcamins Where do we put that control?
18:39 gmcharlt this is a work around; longer term fix would be to either stop using Memoize::Memcached for GetMarcStructure or make sure cached framework gets invalidated  whenver the MARC frameworks are edited
18:40 oleonard jcamins: We don't have a really well established practice that spans many types of actions
18:41 oleonard The search results tools are one example
18:41 cait gmcharlt: ah, I see
18:41 cait is it very hard to do?
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18:42 jcamins I suppose I could just add a "Merge" link in the actions cell, and a "Remove" link to the merge table.
18:44 oleonard You could also follow the pattern set by the lists interface and put the merge button at the bottom of the list of invoices
18:45 jcamins Okay.
18:46 * jcamins can definitely do that.
18:47 gmcharlt cait: bug 10503 is also relevant
18:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10503 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , incorrect initialization parameters passed Memoize::Memcached
18:48 cait ah
18:48 cait aren't we using something else than memoize::memcached already ..somewhere?
18:49 cait the caching code is a bit over my head currently
18:49 jcamins Koha::Cache is more invalidation-friendly.
18:49 bag whoami
18:50 bag :P
18:50 jcamins Jean Valjean?!?
18:50 gmcharlt bag: at your age, if you don't know already ... ;)
18:50 oleonard Jackie Chan?
18:50 bag gmcharlt: you going to chicago?
18:50 gmcharlt bag: yep.  you?
18:50 bag yes yes I am
18:51 bag cool let's see if we can't talk for a bit - I'll try and stop by your booth
18:51 cait jcamins: aaah, that was it :)
18:53 gmcharlt jcamins: indeed; do you have any followups for 8089 in your queue, or do you think it's ready for another look now?
18:54 jcamins gmcharlt: nope. That was one of those things I was hoping to one day have time for, but that never happened.
18:56 gmcharlt jcamins: OK.  I'll target a fix for 10503 for stable series, and we'll see if we can get more Koha::Cache usage in place for 3.14
18:56 jcamins Makes sense.
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19:08 nengard_phone oleonard, okay i fixed the error, but the ebook stuff still is a little screwy
19:08 nengard_phone can you look again when you get a chance
19:09 jcamins oleonard: do we have a style that can make an <a> link look like a submit button?
19:09 jcamins I feel like we must, but I'm having trouble finding it.
19:10 oleonard I only recall the reverse: styling a button to look like a link.
19:12 jcamins oleonard: and we don't want to use Bootstrap-style buttons for this sort of action button?
19:13 oleonard We simply have no plan in place for it, or arguments made pro or con
19:14 nengard_phone oh wait .. think i found it
19:15 jcamins Well, argument pro would be that there is apparently no way to style a link like a button at present.
19:17 oleonard What I mean by plan is a plan for whether to or how to convert styling of other buttons in Koha to Bootstrap
19:17 nengard http://model.bywatersolutions.[…]d&limit=itype:EBK
19:18 oleonard We could certainly say "All new or changed pages should use a default Bootstrap style for all buttons." Not sure how others feel about it.
19:18 jcamins Ooh! I figured it out!
19:19 oleonard well done nengard
19:19 nengard :)
19:19 nengard now - i need to see if there is a bug for this
19:20 nengard but in master the tabs in the holding table aren't highlighted
19:20 nengard when selected
19:20 nengard also - oleonard do you know what might be causing the search bar at the top to lose the pulldowns: http://model.bywatersolutions.[…]%20open%20library
19:20 nengard is it more bad code of ours or a bug?
19:21 oleonard Firebug reports a problem with the jqTransform plugin, but I don't know what causes it
19:22 nengard that's not one of ours then
19:26 oleonard nengard: But it's a problem that doesn't affect master as far as I can tell
19:26 nengard hmmm
19:26 nengard okay
19:26 nengard let me pull more of our js out
19:27 oleonard It's ridiculous that the ccsr theme requires opaccolorstylesheet to be set to a specific value.
19:27 nengard hmmm ... well it's not that (the js or the colors.css)
19:28 jcamins Ah-ha! I figured it out!
19:28 rangi oleonard: there's an easy way to fix that
19:28 oleonard Finish my new theme and make the other ones go away?
19:28 jcamins I can make an a.submit tag look like button.submit.
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19:29 rangi yep
19:29 rangi be rangi
19:29 wahanui There's a bug for that
19:29 rangi be rangi
19:29 wahanui Send a patch!
19:29 rangi :)
19:29 nengard i found the bug (the tab focus one) bug 10496
19:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10496 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , opac tabs losing focus
19:33 rangi
19:35 jcamins Errr... what's a repl?
19:35 pianohacker read-eval-print-loop
19:36 jcamins Ah.
19:36 pianohacker What python/firebug/perl -de 1 give you
19:36 jcamins Got it. Nifty!
19:36 rangi yep very handy
19:36 pianohacker rangi: Do you have a preferred Perl REPL? perl -de 1 works, but has lotsa quirks :)
19:37 rangi the carp::reply one works really well the 2 times ive used it
19:38 pianohacker hah okay
19:38 pianohacker rangi: oh! by the way. The patches for bug 10486 depend on the ones for 10320 . Developed from those as a starting point, apologies
19:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
19:39 rangi ahh right, no wonder it didnt apply
19:39 jcamins You know what's a great patch to QA? Bug 10274. That's a great patch to QA.
19:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10274 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , UT: Acquisition.t needs to create its own data
19:39 rangi is it using transations now?
19:39 jcamins Nope.
19:40 jcamins I guess it's pretty easy to use a transaction, though, isn't it? Start a transaction at the beginning, then roll back.
19:40 rangi yep
19:40 rangi then you dont need to do all the deleting at the end
19:40 rangi and if it fails in the middle
19:41 rangi you dont end up wiht undeleted stuff
19:41 jcamins Hm. In my follow-up on bug 10403 I actually test all the delete methods.
19:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
19:41 jcamins Well, some, anyway.
19:41 rangi ahh well thats good too
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19:42 rangi i wont halt it because its not using transactions, but for ones where we need to create some data to test with and then be sure its all gone at the end they work pretty well
19:42 rangi maybe we can do some workshops on db testing at kohacon
19:42 rangi theres mysql tap we could use too
19:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:43 rangi
19:43 rangi right i need to go make kids lunches now
19:43 jcamins Mmm.
19:43 jcamins Lunch.
19:43 jcamins What's for lunch?
19:43 jcamins And, I guess I need to make dinner in about twenty minutes.
19:46 mtompset Greetings, jcamins. :)
19:48 cait morning rangi :)
19:49 jcamins Hm.
19:50 mtompset Greetings, cait rangi. :)
19:50 jcamins Maybe I need to split the unit test into a separate bug.
19:50 jcamins Try and get that bug *first* then bug 10403 fixes a unit test.
19:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
19:50 mtompset And mark it with a see also, depends on, or something like that?
19:51 jcamins *get that bug in
19:51 jcamins *patch
19:51 jcamins *[correcting something else]
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20:07 mtompset Has anyone had time to tinker with the patch on bug 10454 and get a feeling if they like or dislike it? :)
20:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10454 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Duplicate card numbers may be generated
20:42 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period).
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20:56 drnoe hello #koha.  I have more indexing questions.  What are the differences between the different types of index names  (*:w ,  *: p ,  etc. ) used in biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl?  example: <z:index name="Author:w Author:p Corporate-name:w Name:w">   (<target_index>Author:w</target_index> <target_index>Author:p</target_index> in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml)
20:56 drnoe crap
20:57 drnoe Author: p  (though I fixed all those)
20:59 jcamins understanding zebra indexing?
20:59 wahanui understanding zebra indexing is[…]ng_Zebra_indexing
21:10 drnoe thanks jcamins, wahanui. I have been through that article and have not been able to glean the meaning of [indexname]:[letter]  I am sort of guessing that : p is somehow phrase. not sure about:w, though it seems most used.  The indexing article has examples from record.abs without trailing [index]:[letter].  biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl seems to use that format for every index.
21:10 jcamins zebra?
21:10 wahanui well, zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses
21:10 jcamins Hm.
21:11 jcamins Well, there's also Zebra documentation, somewhere.
21:11 jcamins wahanui: google zebra indexdata
21:11 wahanui jcamins: excuse me?
21:11 jcamins Aww.
21:11 jcamins @google zebra indexdata
21:11 huginn jcamins: Zebra | Index Data: <>; Zebra - User's Guide and Reference - Index Data: <>; Zebra - User's Guide and Reference - Index Data: <>; 3. Extended Zebra RPN Features - Index Data: <[…]ymodel-zebra.html>; Section 4, “Retrieval of Zebra internal record (1 more message)
21:11 pianohacker drnoe's a good guy, don't inflict indexdata documentation on him
21:11 jcamins Nice!
21:11 drnoe I looked at their site, but did not get far
21:12 jcamins I knew we had to have a bot that did that. :D
21:12 pianohacker though the google feature is cool
21:39 wizzyrea w is keyword
21:39 drnoe I went back again and searched for : p in all of zebra's docs and found (in "10.2 Charmap Files."  Nice table. I was looking for "index name" and all kinds of not helpful stuff
21:41 cait drnoe: maybe try with out the space?
21:41 cait :p
21:41 drnoe the space was just for the channel
21:41 cait um.. guess you did
21:41 cait yeah :) i see now why
21:42 drnoe :s is a special sort, not in the handy table
21:48 drnoe @google ":p"
21:48 huginn drnoe: 5. Investigating the content of the indexes - Index Data: <[…]ebra-indexes.html>; 3. DOM Record Model Configuration - Index Data: <[…]-domxml-conf.html>; Changelog - Index Data: <>; 2. Charmap Files - Index Data: < (2 more messages)
21:50 drnoe better yet...
21:50 drnoe @google (":w" ":p" ":s")
21:50 huginn drnoe: 3. DOM Record Model Configuration - Index Data: <[…]-domxml-conf.html>; Changelog - Index Data: <>; 2. DOM XML filter pipeline configuration - Index Data: <[…]xml-pipeline.html>; zebrasrv - Index Data: <>; 5. (2 more messages)
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22:41 eythian hi
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23:10 pianohacker good night
23:10 wahanui Don't go, pianohacker. Stay a while. Stay forever.
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