IRC log for #koha, 2013-06-23

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00:05 cjh something really odd is going on with these translation files
00:05 cjh bgkriegel has emailed me a tar of them, I cped them over, added, committed, made a patch
00:06 cjh and then trying to apply them to 3.8.x the patch faals
00:06 cjh really odd behavior.
00:09 cjh so I can apply the translations myself but bgkriegel cannot sign off, diffing his patch against mine they are the same (other than author/date)
00:11 cjh not sure how to proceed, I can use my manually created commit but I cannot share it as a patch.
00:11 jcamins cjh: that _is_ bizarre.
00:11 cjh bgkriegel: I can push it to 3.8.x and have you look at it, but you wont be able to sign off as you cant push
00:11 cjh jcamins: very
00:11 cjh it could be something to do with character encoding
00:12 cjh so I can push my manual changes which are possibly broken, or we can skip translation updated for this release.
00:12 cjh I feel the latter is safer
00:12 bgkriegel me too
00:12 jcamins Agreed.
00:12 cjh good enough for me, 3.8.14 will not have translation updates.
00:13 bgkriegel :(
00:13 cjh we can get it next month, we will have more time to wrestle with it
00:13 bgkriegel ok
00:13 cjh my money is on encoding and/or funky characters screwing up the patch format.
00:15 bgkriegel I'll try to find those beasts
00:15 cjh I could write a script to add each file and try patch & apply to find the bad ones.
00:16 cjh but that will have to be a bit later, exam study takes priority atm.
00:27 jcamins What's the exam on?
00:28 mtompset Oh shoot! a bracketing problem in Auth.
00:29 mtompset (my work, not anything anyone else is doing)
00:29 cjh jcamins: I have 2, programming languages (haskell and prolog) and user interfaces (god knows)
00:30 mtompset *whew* just my junk line I forgot to delete. :)
00:30 cjh and lunch is ready :)
00:32 jcamins Ooh! Learned you a Haskell!
00:33 cjh indeed I did :)
00:33 cjh also a great book.
00:33 jcamins Never actually read it.
00:33 jcamins Perhaps I should.
00:33 jcamins On the other hand, perhaps I'd find myself switching from Node.js to Haskell for Biblionarrator before I've even rewritten Biblionarrator in Node.
00:33 cjh it was quite a fun language to learn, and we then used it to make some toy programming languages :)
00:34 cjh heh
00:43 mtompset no lisp? ;)
00:52 cjh sadly no, plan to learn one of them one day, havent had the chance yet
00:55 mtompset What about ADA?
00:55 mtompset Sorry, just recalling those ancient university days of mine. ;)
00:56 cjh heh no, my degree only really covered java, haskell and prolog, and a tiny amount of python and c.
00:56 cjh pushed 3.8.14 and tags
00:56 mtompset What is your degree in?
00:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #325 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:56 cjh computer science
00:57 mtompset what university?
00:57 bgkriegel cjh++
00:57 cjh mtompset: victoria university of wellington
00:57 cjh bgkriegel: so next is rolling a tarball and agreeing on a time to send an email/blog post?
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00:59 bgkriegel just do the tarball, scp it , prepare your mail and send it
00:59 bgkriegel I tried the install before sending the email, just in case
00:59 mtompset *sigh* Is OpenIDP down for anyone else? Does anyone else here use it?
01:00 cjh bgkriegel: scp the tarball to where?
01:01 bgkriegel oh, rangi said: "scp releases/koha-3.10.06.tar.gz*"
01:02 bgkriegel but I don't know if he made a user for you
01:02 cjh doesnt seem like it, tried chris and chrish
01:02 cjh oh well I can email it and deal with scp later
01:02 bgkriegel ok
01:03 jcamins If you put it somewhere web accessible, I can copy it over.
01:03 jcamins If you send out an e-mail, you'll get responses almost immediately complaining that the release isn't there.
01:03 cjh ty, have to make and test first :)
01:03 cjh heh
01:03 * cjh has never made a tarball before
01:05 cjh oh, awesome
01:06 jcamins That's very old, I think.
01:06 jcamins I use
01:32 * mtompset grumbles about how his test for his saml related patch has stalled due to being non-responsive.
01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #325: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/325/
01:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Hall: Database update for 3.8.14 release
01:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Hall: Update release notes for 3.8.14 release
01:34 cjh thank you jenkins_koha
01:39 * mtompset claps.
01:39 cjh have to send the email still
01:40 mtompset Progress still. :)
01:40 mtompset It is your first release, correct?
01:40 cjh assuming I get it out, yes :)
01:48 cjh jcamins: just uploading it somewhere you can get at it.
01:48 jcamins Ta.
01:53 cjh jcamins:
01:53 cjh should contain everything you need, ty
01:53 cjh I should have gzipped, oops
01:54 cjh doing that now :)
01:54 jcamins No need.
01:54 jcamins Already downloaded.
01:54 cjh and it made no difference to size, contents already gzipped.
01:54 cjh awesome.
01:54 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh
01:54 jcamins 5.79 MB/s is really nice.
01:55 jcamins Whoah. 7.9 MB/s upstream!
01:55 cjh nice
01:59 mtompset Those are approaching slow 100mbps NIC cards. That is very nice.
01:59 jcamins Uploaded.
02:00 cjh ty jcamins
02:00 cjh will send release email shortly.
02:00 cjh jcamins++
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02:06 cjh hi tcohen
02:07 tcohen hi cjh
02:11 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
02:11 mtompset Let stressed now that the release is out? :)
02:11 mtompset Less...
02:14 cjh and email sent
02:15 tcohen heh, indeed
02:15 tcohen the wine helped too :-P
02:22 tcohen wizzyrea: how to i render correctly the release notes?
02:22 tcohen verbatim output
02:22 jcamins tcohen: view the release notes on gitweb and copy and paste.
02:22 tcohen yes, I did that, but the release anouncement doesnt look fine
02:30 tcohen <pre>
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03:53 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
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20:38 wizzyrea hi tohen, I'm not sure I understand your question
20:38 wizzyrea also good morning
20:38 wizzyrea <time of day>
20:41 cait hi wizzyrea
21:00 cjh morning
21:02 cait hi cjh
21:02 * wizzyrea waves to cjh
21:11 cjh hello fellow kohaians
21:11 * cait feels ignored by wizzyrea :)
21:12 wizzyrea >.<  hi cait
21:12 cjh heh
21:12 wizzyrea sorry
21:14 cait heh
21:16 wizzyrea cjh did you get the release sorted out?
21:17 wizzyrea on download?
21:17 cjh well sorted out might be a bit strong, but it is released and up on the download site :)
21:17 cjh although I will need an account on bugs so I can scp it next time, jcamins helped me out.
21:20 cjh ohhhh maybe I am wrong, just saw the email from paul
21:20 cjh and replying :)
21:25 jcamins You mean my filters are still working? Yay!
21:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing (umbrella report) <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 6504] no way to ent
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22:44 eythian hi
22:44 wahanui kai ora, eythian
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23:37 jcamins I never thought I'd say this about Javascript... but I think I like node.js. At least when compared to PHP.
23:37 * dcook is intrigued
23:37 dcook Switching over to node.js for Biblionarrator?
23:37 jcamins Yep.
23:38 dcook Neato. I've been meaning to take a look at node.js. Now I have a reason :p
23:38 jcamins Excellent!
23:38 * jcamins adds dcook to the list of people who are going to be contributing to Biblionarrator.
23:39 dcook Sounds good to me.
23:39 jcamins I'm also switching to the graph database Titan.
23:39 dcook I seem to have dealt with the networking issues I was having last week, so home server is in a pretty good state at this point
23:39 jcamins Woohoo!
23:40 dcook Oooh. I've wanted to look at graph databases too...
23:40 jcamins Careful.
23:40 jcamins They will make your brain explode.
23:40 dcook Hmm, that would be suboptimal.
23:42 jcamins The next step in Biblionarrator development is for me to write unit tests for the REST APIs, and switch the REST APIs to Node.
23:42 dcook Sweet. Do you have any outlines for the project anywhere?
23:43 jcamins Not really. You know when I decided that was the next step?
23:43 dcook hehe
23:43 dcook I can imagine :p
23:43 jcamins Approximately 7 minutes ago, right before I announced I liked Node.
23:44 jcamins Well- thought I liked Node.
23:44 jcamins Which is good enough, because I know I hate PHP.
23:44 dcook Finally joined the rest of the fold, eh? :p
23:44 dcook What made you decide that?
23:44 * dcook is still indifferent
23:44 jcamins Oh, I've hated PHP all along.
23:45 jcamins I decided to change to node.js because I like what I'm reading about test frameworks.
23:45 dcook Mmm, I do remember you saying before that you hated all web scripting languages
23:45 rangi node isnt web
23:45 dcook I was referring to PHP, rangi
23:46 rangi php is bad for lots of reasons, but not really because you can use it for websites :)
23:46 dcook hehe
23:46 dcook Fair enough
23:46 rangi i mean i dislike a lot of languages
23:47 rangi but php is the only one id avoid using
23:47 rangi[…]al-of-bad-design/
23:47 dcook Aren't both Drupal and Moodle written in PHP?
23:47 jcamins I hadn't quite realized before that there were testing frameworks for other languages that seemed _good_.
23:47 dcook Yeah, I've read through that page a couple times, I think
23:47 rangi yep, thats why i dont work on those teams :)
23:48 dcook Makes sense
23:51 jcamins But I was astonished to discover just now that node.js has testing libraries for REST APIs with documentation that I can actually comprehend.
23:53 jcamins Probably if we had a proper PSGI application we could do unit tests for Koha easily, too.
23:53 jcamins (and I had never heard of such a thing before I stumbled across it)
23:56 rangi yep its easy to start moving script by script to proper psgi and not run under the psgi emulation
23:56 rangi its a much better solution that adding our everywhere :)
23:57 tcohen hi rangi, jcamins, dcook
23:57 dcook hey tcohen
23:58 rangi hi tcohen
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23:59 tcohen hmm, I had two irc clients running
23:59 rangi jcamins:[…]bservices_details
23:59 rangi (we are running 4.4 now)

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