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| 00:27 |
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wizzyrea |
get the popcorn is <reply> http://i.imgur.com/p3cHE.gif |
| 00:27 |
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wizzyrea |
get the popcorn |
| 00:27 |
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wahanui |
http://i.imgur.com/p3cHE.gif |
| 00:27 |
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wizzyrea |
yuss. |
| 00:41 |
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| 01:37 |
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druthb |
aw, nuts. http://googlereader.blogspot.c[…]oogle-reader.html |
| 01:40 |
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drojf |
druthb: in case you are getting a key to use google translate with pootle, could you get the key for apertium too please? |
| 01:40 |
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druthb |
okie dokie. :) |
| 01:40 |
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drojf |
yay \o/ |
| 02:15 |
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| 02:18 |
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wajasu |
whilst setting up overdue notices (koha v10.2) i historically have "The Library" <thelibrary thehost.org> in KohaAdminEmailAddress and that works. |
| 02:18 |
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wajasu |
but my mails have thelibrarythehost.org |
| 02:19 |
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wajasu |
so i looked at overdue notices.pl and see branchemail and i have that filled in as thelibrarythehost.org so that is being used instead. |
| 02:20 |
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wajasu |
one issue is the web page doesn't seem to handle double quotes for the KohaadminEmailAddress |
| 02:20 |
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wizzyrea |
10.2? |
| 02:21 |
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wajasu |
yes |
| 02:21 |
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wizzyrea |
3.10.2? |
| 02:21 |
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wahanui |
i think 3.10.2 is released on the same date right? |
| 02:21 |
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wajasu |
yeah. |
| 02:21 |
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wizzyrea |
phew, I was confused there for a minute :) |
| 02:22 |
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wajasu |
another issue is I noticed my template contains the branchemail. and since I put "The Library" <thelibararythehost.org> the template substitution gobbled up the part in <> |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I have never known anyone to put in anything other than a bare email address in KohaAdminEmailAddress |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I think you're the first. |
| 02:23 |
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wajasu |
:) |
| 02:23 |
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wizzyrea |
the first I know of, anyway |
| 02:24 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm actually not surprised that it doesn't work. |
| 02:24 |
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jcamins |
It's not supposed to work. |
| 02:24 |
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jcamins |
That'd be pretty cool, but it definitely is a space for e-mail address. |
| 02:25 |
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wajasu |
since the branchemail is taken and my librarian wants emails sent with the "The Library" showing, AND would want the thelibrarythehost.org showing too, i am stuck. |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 02:25 |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 02:25 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 02:26 |
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jcamins |
A patch could make that work easily enough. |
| 02:26 |
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| 02:27 |
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wajasu |
yeah. |
| 02:27 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, if you want your particular 123 addressed, you'd better be prepared to send a patch :) |
| 02:27 |
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jcamins |
It's just that's not how the feature has been supposed to work. |
| 02:27 |
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FCCAP |
hello all, is there anyone around who might be able to answer a quick question? |
| 02:27 |
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* wizzyrea |
looks around |
| 02:27 |
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jcamins |
And if you want it in in 3.12, the patch needs to be submitted by the end of the day Friday. |
| 02:27 |
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jcamins |
ask? |
| 02:27 |
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wahanui |
Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 02:27 |
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wizzyrea |
sure. |
| 02:27 |
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FCCAP |
lol, can do, each IRC is a bit different on protocol is all... |
| 02:28 |
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wajasu |
i'll just have them clear the branchemail and type it in iterally inthe notice. and let overduenotice pick up the KohaAdminEmailAddress. |
| 02:28 |
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wizzyrea |
works if you only have one branch. :P |
| 02:28 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: and that's even easier. :) |
| 02:28 |
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wizzyrea |
FCCAP: we're the friendly sort of IRC |
| 02:29 |
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FCCAP |
I'm looking at setting this up for a church, my question is this, they have a paid linux based webhoster, would it be possible to run this on that, or is it an application that requires an nix executable to be run on server. I only ask because the church is very small (prob 150 books) and not a lot of a funds for a dedicated computer. |
| 02:29 |
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jcamins |
Probably not possible. |
| 02:29 |
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FCCAP |
I like the friendly type, it's right up my ally. |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
probably not possible :( but - you might consider one of the live cd's |
| 02:30 |
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FCCAP |
I host my site on the same hoster system so I thought about looking into it tonight to see if it would be something I could setup as a test, but I thought I would check with the experts before I go thru the steps |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
for that it would take really very extremely modest hardware |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
150 books is eensy |
| 02:30 |
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wajasu |
i did fix bug 2249, but its not really a priority. |
| 02:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2249 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED REMIND, Error in barcodesGenerator.pl |
| 02:30 |
|
wajasu |
whoops |
| 02:31 |
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wajasu |
bug 2499 |
| 02:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Improvement on text wrapping algorithm needed |
| 02:32 |
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FCCAP |
well, the system that is there would most likely handle it, the only concern I have is the memory, it's currently only got 512MB ram, but a potentially bigger concern would be that the librarian is somewhere nearing her 70's and I'm not sure introducing her to linux (even for browsing would be something that would be feasible) |
| 02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
have you looked at the demos at all? |
| 02:32 |
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jcamins |
You don't necessarily need root access, but you do need the ability to run non-PHP/Perl/whatever software. |
| 02:32 |
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wajasu |
if there was a bug you really need signed off by friday, tell me. i think i am up for 1 or two. |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
anything feature-y |
| 02:33 |
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FCCAP |
ok so that does answer that then, it's not something that would be strictly a web based with a mysql database access that I could configure that way. |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 6739 |
| 02:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6739 major, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Needs Signoff , expired patrons not blocked from opac actions |
| 02:34 |
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| 02:34 |
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wizzyrea |
wb kathryn |
| 02:34 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 9811 |
| 02:34 |
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FCCAP |
one more quick question, are there any issues with basic automatic bar code scanners that I should be on the lookout for? I have to admit, my experience in ILS has been 4 years with Polaris ILS in a Public Library and Evergreen ILS as IT Admin |
| 02:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons search improvements |
| 02:34 |
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kathryn |
:) it's not a sign that I've finished... |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
nope, if you can scan into a text box, it will work with koha |
| 02:37 |
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FCCAP |
excellent, I like the compatibility....thank you all kindly. If I can convince the Church to go with this, I'll get it all setup, and then I look forward to being an active member of the community to help out others as well. You all are def of the kind IRC folk. I need to get my proposal written up for them now. |
| 02:37 |
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wizzyrea |
good luck :) |
| 02:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
live cd? |
| 02:37 |
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wahanui |
live cd is not always recommendable or available on sourceforge can i use it? |
| 02:37 |
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wizzyrea |
erm, not helpful wahanui. |
| 02:37 |
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wizzyrea |
forget live cd |
| 02:37 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot live cd |
| 02:37 |
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FCCAP |
I didn't really find any specs listed, is there a min or recommended mem requirement? The current system is an Athlon 2000+ with 512, I know that will support debian, but what about the ILS? |
| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
you know, for the size you've got, probably 1 gig would be better, but it should work on 512. |
| 02:38 |
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FCCAP |
yea I'm not real big on live cds unless it's just something to run as a temp thing, maybe a demo or something |
| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
might be tight though. |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
tight and/or slower than you might like. |
| 02:39 |
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FCCAP |
ok I'll give it a shot with the 512, and then in 2 weeks I'll be getting the rest of my gear down here (just moved 16 hours away), and I'll have plenty of memory to upgrade if needed |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
also, I'd go with the packages for your install |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
much easier than a tarball |
| 02:39 |
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FCCAP |
well this church has an average age of like 65+ so slower might be better, we are in central florida, so it's mainly comprised of Snow Birdds |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 02:40 |
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FCCAP |
oh yea GIT, would be my install method |
| 02:40 |
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FCCAP |
thank you all again for the advice and guidance, I look forward to our next meeting. |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
hm, i'd still probably go with packages for production and use git for your development box >.> |
| 02:40 |
|
* wizzyrea |
sighs |
| 02:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
bugs is also http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 02:41 |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
| 02:41 |
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wizzyrea |
bugs? |
| 02:41 |
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wahanui |
bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
new release is http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
new release? |
| 02:42 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that new release is http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
forget new release |
| 02:42 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot new release |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
new release is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
new release? |
| 02:42 |
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wahanui |
http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ter-a-new-release |
| 02:42 |
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wizzyrea |
yep. |
| 02:45 |
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wizzyrea |
using git instead of packages for production is <reply> http://media.tumblr.com/2f97c6[…]kuTgjp1qz4rgp.gif |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
the most common incoming request is <reply> http://i.imgur.com/ldAL5.gif |
| 02:59 |
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BobB |
wizzyrea lol |
| 02:59 |
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BobB |
how'd you get that photo of our sys admin? |
| 02:59 |
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BobB |
:0 |
| 03:00 |
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trea |
ha |
| 03:03 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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| 04:11 |
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wajasu |
does that add course reserves need more signoff? |
| 04:11 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 04:12 |
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* jcamins |
leaves. |
| 04:12 |
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* wajasu |
leaves |
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cait |
morning |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:16 |
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magnuse |
wow, i sure got the voting thing wrong... |
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| 07:33 |
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drojf |
good morning |
| 07:35 |
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wizzyrea |
mornin |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
i thought it was this morning too magnuse |
| 07:36 |
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| 07:36 |
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wizzyrea |
what the meeting? |
| 07:36 |
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wahanui |
the meeting is at 6, so I need to leave in about two and a half hours. |
| 07:36 |
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rangi |
the voting |
| 07:36 |
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wahanui |
the voting is broken https://landfill.bugzilla.org/[…]#v40_feat_vot_ext |
| 07:37 |
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magnuse |
ah, not just me being confused then ;-) |
| 07:37 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget the meeting |
| 07:37 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot meeting |
| 07:37 |
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wizzyrea |
forget the voting |
| 07:37 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot voting |
| 07:38 |
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drojf |
so i am not crazy, i thought that too |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
or we are all crazy... |
| 07:39 |
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drojf |
mass hysteria |
| 07:39 |
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magnuse |
eeeek |
| 07:39 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 07:39 |
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magnuse |
so wizzyrea moves to nz and immediately there is a drought? |
| 07:39 |
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wizzyrea |
ikr. |
| 07:40 |
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wizzyrea |
and massive snow storms in kansas. |
| 07:43 |
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magnuse |
ooh, even more spooky |
| 07:43 |
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drojf |
woah a huge piece of ice just fell from the roof and passed my window. yay sunshine |
| 07:43 |
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magnuse |
maybe you could spend a summer holiday here in norway some time? ;-) |
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| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 07:45 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 2.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
gah! |
| 07:46 |
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sophie_m |
yep, as you say ;-) |
| 07:46 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 07:46 |
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wahanui |
privet, alex_a |
| 07:46 |
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* magnuse |
makes a note of bringing his skis to the hackfest |
| 07:46 |
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sophie_m |
but it should be better this WE magnuse |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 07:47 |
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| 07:47 |
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wizzyrea |
what do you need snow? |
| 07:48 |
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wizzyrea |
or less of it. |
| 07:48 |
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* magnuse |
has plenty of snow now |
| 07:48 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:48 |
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* magnuse |
was hoping to find spring on the shores of the mediteranean |
| 07:48 |
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wizzyrea |
oh I know what the problem is - moving to NZ drastically reduced my carbon footprint, so my lack of CO2 output is totally throwing off the global climate. That must be it. |
| 07:49 |
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wizzyrea |
</nonsense> |
| 07:49 |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: that sure sounds like scientific explanation! |
| 07:49 |
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wizzyrea |
of course that was probably offset by the plane ride I took to get here in the first place. |
| 07:50 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 07:51 |
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magnuse |
how is your nz carbon fottprint smaller than your us one, wizzyrea? |
| 07:51 |
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wizzyrea |
no cars, more walking, less trash, more recycling |
| 07:51 |
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wizzyrea |
less stuff. |
| 07:52 |
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wizzyrea |
more locally produced food (< 300km-ish) |
| 07:52 |
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wizzyrea |
(some comes much further, but a lot more is local, especially seasonal vegetables) |
| 07:55 |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: yay! |
| 07:55 |
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magnuse |
nz++ |
| 07:56 |
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* magnuse |
starts looking for an alternative to google reader |
| 07:56 |
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wizzyrea |
awful. Really irritated about it. |
| 07:57 |
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drojf |
somehow i read that everywhere i go. you're all slaves to google :P |
| 07:58 |
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magnuse |
guilty! |
| 07:58 |
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wizzyrea |
meh, it's a product I've used for years, and like. |
| 07:58 |
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* magnuse |
too |
| 07:58 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm tempted to go all hipster on you and say I used it before it was cool. |
| 07:58 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 07:58 |
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drojf |
»look, that centralized service of that spying corporation. how can something like that suddenly shutdown?« :P |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
its one of the few ones that didnt track you, hence why they are killing it |
| 07:59 |
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drojf |
rangi: ah, that makes sense |
| 07:59 |
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magnuse |
anyone know a good, free software, web-based alternative? |
| 08:00 |
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* magnuse |
starts dreaming of a collaborative feed reader for library people, again |
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drojf |
rangi++ |
| 08:05 |
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rangi |
http://selfoss.aditu.de/ |
| 08:05 |
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rangi |
disclaimer never actually tried it |
| 08:05 |
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rangi |
but it is gplv3 |
| 08:06 |
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wizzyrea |
hm that looks interesting |
| 08:06 |
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rangi |
yup |
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magnuse |
yeah, that sounds promising |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
the name even sounds like some place in norway :-) |
| 08:09 |
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drojf |
heh true |
| 08:10 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:10 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 08:10 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:11 |
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drojf |
just 21° more. that's nothing |
| 08:11 |
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drojf |
i got sun :) |
| 08:11 |
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drojf |
as long as i don't leave the house it seems like a nice spring day here |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 08:14 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
boo |
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drojf |
:) |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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drojf |
hi christophe_c |
| 08:20 |
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drojf |
guten morgen cait |
| 08:20 |
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cait |
good morning drojf |
| 08:20 |
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cait |
christophe_c: how is the weather project? |
| 08:22 |
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christophe_c |
hello drjf cait |
| 08:24 |
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christophe_c |
cait windy today but by the way sunny ;-) |
| 08:24 |
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cait |
good :) work some more on it :) |
| 08:24 |
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cait |
@wunder marseille |
| 08:25 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:27 |
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christophe_c |
yep cait I am working on it ;-) |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
christophe_c: that's not so warm.... but I had lots of snow the last 3 days... so i won't complain |
| 08:27 |
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asaurat |
actually, the forecasts predict a very rainy week :p |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
get inside and work!! |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 08:28 |
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asaurat |
hehe |
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cait |
rangi: tsk. |
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cait |
:) |
| 08:28 |
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christophe_c |
you know cait, yesterday afternoon => 14° but with the wind the temp. drops |
| 08:28 |
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cait |
@wunder leipzig |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Willi-Bredel-Strabe DE, Leipzig, Germany is -7.2°C (9:03 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.3°C (9:25 AM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
ugh |
| 08:29 |
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asaurat |
http://www.tameteo.com/meteo_M[…]LFML-1-26127.html |
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drojf |
strabe :D |
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cait |
drojf: huh? |
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drojf |
(09:26:04) huginn: cait: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Willi-Bredel-Strabe |
| 08:33 |
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drojf |
it does the ß>B>b thing |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
interesitng |
| 08:34 |
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wizzyrea |
oh hey, europeans - bug 9745 |
| 08:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382 |
| 08:35 |
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wizzyrea |
just don't want it to get missed. |
| 08:35 |
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wizzyrea |
before release |
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wizzyrea |
because I don't want to be responsible for nuking your translated strings :P |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
it's on my list indeed |
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cait |
drojf: could you sign off maybe? |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: will probably not go to the cricket tomorrow, looks like england will bat all day, and i dont want to pay $43 to watch them bat |
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* magnuse |
does not want rangi to go all batty |
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* cait |
read bat and was thinking dadadadadada batman! |
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rangi |
heh |
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* wizzyrea |
totally doesn't understand cricket but believes you when you say it would be a suboptimal experience |
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* wizzyrea |
is keen to learn tho |
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drojf |
cait1: no signing off for me, got other problems to solve, sorry |
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rangi |
yep, we can go to one that will have a bit more happening and costs a bit less as a good learning one |
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cait1 |
hm sorry |
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cait1 |
got kicked out |
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cait1 |
guess my batman comment was lost too? |
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drojf |
the apertium channel talks in complete computerlinguist gibberish <3 |
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rangi |
nope saw that |
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wizzyrea |
nope, I laughed |
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cait1 |
drojf: that's ok - was just hoping to speed it up :) |
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cait1 |
drojf: you have strange taste :) |
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cait1 |
t |
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tanzi |
hi im trying to edit the view of addbooks.pl .I want to add an <a href ..> to this view. where should i edit? |
| 08:56 |
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tanzi |
i opened addbooks.tmpl |
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cait1 |
hi Viktor :) |
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tanzi |
couldnt find where to edit |
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tanzi |
new to TMPL usage |
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tanzi |
have some perl knowledge |
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tanzi |
Please help.. |
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tanzi |
hi cait1 can u help me |
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cait1 |
tanzi: what exactly do you want to do? |
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wizzyrea |
you want to look in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/ |
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wizzyrea |
you should find an addbooks.tt |
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* cait1 |
hands drojf frog pills |
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cait1 |
we were discussing terry pratchett earlier |
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wizzyrea |
that's where you'll put you <a href="...">link</a> |
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cait1 |
ook |
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rangi |
you shouldnt be seeing .tmpl files |
| 08:59 |
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rangi |
what version of koha tanzi? |
| 08:59 |
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wizzyrea |
right only tt |
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cait1 |
as bugzila don't want to open for me... could someone tell me abut bug 9711 - lookng for the information if it should work with xslt or normal view |
| 09:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9711 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPACPopupAuthorsSearch ugly in CSSR |
| 09:00 |
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tanzi |
Koha version: 3.02.06.000 |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
same place but addbooks.tmpl |
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wizzyrea |
and where on the page are you trying to stick it? |
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* wizzyrea |
missed the "I opened that" |
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Viktor |
hi cait1 |
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cait1 |
ah never midn - I think I got bugzilla open now |
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wizzyrea |
cait: it doesn't say |
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wizzyrea |
afaict |
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tanzi |
actually i want to set my custom framework as default |
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rangi |
thats a pretty old version of Koha |
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tanzi |
when i add |
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cait1 |
wizzyrea: hm. I will try normal view |
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cait1 |
can't see anything happen in xslt |
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rangi |
hi paul_p |
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cait1 |
hi paul_p |
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tanzi |
is it possible to upgrade my koha to the recent stable version by keeping the older version as it is |
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rangi |
?? |
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tanzi |
i want to upgrade without any damage to the code and the db |
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rangi |
so you want to change it without anything changing? the answer then is no |
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tanzi |
i will backup my db |
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wizzyrea |
always a good plan |
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tanzi |
but how to backup the code? |
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tanzi |
it is not as simple like backing up one single directory |
| 09:07 |
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tanzi |
i am not sure where th koha code is distributed.. |
| 09:07 |
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tanzi |
in the filesystem |
| 09:07 |
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tanzi |
is everythig in the /usr/share/koha? |
| 09:07 |
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tanzi |
when i search for keyword koha i find this |
| 09:08 |
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tanzi |
i am correct? |
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tanzi |
hey.. |
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tanzi |
anybody there? |
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cait1 |
Joubu: around? |
| 09:12 |
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tanzi |
anybody there to tell me which directory to backup my installed koha code in Debian 6 before upgrading to a newer version |
| 09:12 |
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tanzi |
of koha |
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drojf |
tanzi: have you made local changes to your koha? or do you mean your koha data in general? |
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drojf |
to backup the data in general, you would save the sql, not the koha code |
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drojf |
if you have local changes in the codebase you are on your own |
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slef |
tanzi: depends how you installed it. |
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tanzi |
ok then while upgrading ,will the new db be compatible with the newer one so that i be able to import older data to the upgraded db |
| 09:20 |
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tanzi |
i mean will the new db is compatible with older db structure? |
| 09:20 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, it should work |
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slef |
tanzi: yes, as long as you run the upgrade script(s), it will change the older db to the new one. |
| 09:20 |
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slef |
or actually, I think it may prompt you on first admin login, as long as you're upgrading from a version after 3.4 |
| 09:21 |
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cait1 |
tanzi: koha will upgrade the db structure for you |
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wizzyrea |
no, 3.2 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: as in, after 3.4.0 |
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wizzyrea |
as in, he's running 3.2 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait1 |
slef: why would it not prompt before? didn't it always? |
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slef |
wizzyrea: oic. Will need to run the items converter too. |
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cait1 |
like always since I can remember - which is 3.2 alpha or so :) |
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wizzyrea |
yeap |
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slef |
cait1: it doesn't run the items converter does it? |
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wizzyrea |
newp |
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wizzyrea |
not automatically. |
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cait1 |
not automatically |
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cait1 |
heh |
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cait1 |
never. |
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wizzyrea |
WINNING |
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slef |
wizzyrea: the kiwish lessons are working, then? |
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rangi |
the packages do |
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rangi |
so there |
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wahanui |
i guess so there is no way we can enable it I think |
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cait1 |
rangi: I think they prompt - but you have to run |
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cait1 |
them |
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rangi |
nope |
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* wizzyrea |
has always said yeap and newp :P |
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* slef |
gets into the longest argument with git about a QA |
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* wizzyrea |
sympathises |
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cait1 |
hm. |
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Joubu |
cait1: hello |
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tanzi |
ok thank you, that was my first useful IRC, thankyou all, by4now tk core of koah :-) |
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wizzyrea |
we tend it every day ;) |
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tanzi |
c u all again |
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wizzyrea |
good luck |
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* slef |
junks the QA |
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* slef |
tries to do the mental gymnastics to rebase it |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 9103 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9103 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref |
| 09:48 |
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cait1 |
Joubu: sorry... on at train. I wanted to ask you about 9711 - but probably won#t make much sense to try and figure that out right now with bad internet connection |
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cait1 |
but looking at anothe of your bugs now :) |
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Joubu |
cait1: yep I saw your comment, I will try to provide a better test plan |
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cait1 |
Joubu: I am sorry - not trying to be difficult there - just really couldn't get it to show up |
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cait1 |
must be missing osmething |
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cait1 |
I tried normal and xslt and made sure the pref was turned on |
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tanzi |
hi |
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tanzi |
i ve come with another doubt ;-) |
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tanzi |
i want to know whether i could print the result of my search output. |
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tanzi |
itried to add my search output to a list and print it, but when i add to list i can add it only page by page to a list. |
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tanzi |
Any help for printing the search list,please |
| 10:04 |
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cait1 |
tanzi: maybe try exporting it into one of the provided formats |
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cait1 |
or use a csv profile -b ut that feature is only available in versions 3.6+ I think |
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slef |
"PTFS Europe have also just added an inter-library loan capability to Koha." Anyone know about that? I'm not spotting it in git log. |
| 10:47 |
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slef |
bug 7317 is also pretty idle |
| 10:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sarah, ASSIGNED , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC |
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drojf |
slef: they wouldn't accidentally have added that to this similar named system by that similar named company? |
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slef |
drojf: I simply don't know. The above is from a seminar advert sent to UK librarians. |
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slef |
wondering if/how to respond |
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cait1 |
slef: interesting. |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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drojf |
interesting indeed |
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cait1 |
@wunder Kontanz |
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huginn |
cait1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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slef |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (12:00 PM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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slef |
@wunder EGYM |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Flick's, Weeting, United Kingdom is 5.1°C (11:00 AM GMT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
Flick's Weeting - is that where they shot 'A Bug's Life' |
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slef |
wizzyrea: EGYM should be RAF Marham. Not sure why wunder doesn't like it. |
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wizzyrea |
still, not so bad at 5 - perhaps a bit cold for march. |
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slef |
@wunder EGYD |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is 4.0°C (10:50 AM GMT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
wizzyrea: 5 with a windchill of 5 = 0 |
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wizzyrea |
boo wind. |
| 11:14 |
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wizzyrea |
though I'm rather becoming affectionate towards wind. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: lot of it about here. Few hills. |
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slef |
@wunder EGSF |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Yaxley, Peterborough, United Kingdom is 7.8°C (11:14 AM GMT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
@wunder EGCL |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Gedney Hill, Spalding, United Kingdom is 4.3°C (11:01 AM GMT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
that's the nearest station |
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slef |
I rarely remember the code, though. |
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cait1 |
wizzyrea: why are you awake? :) |
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slef |
@wunder EGBV |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
just because I guess |
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slef |
@wunder EGBT |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Potterspury, Towcester, United Kingdom is 4.8°C (11:13 AM GMT on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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slef |
That's some way from EGBT, but bizarrely exactly where I was looking for. |
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* magnuse |
would be interested to know more about the ill capabilities |
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cait1 |
wizzyrea: go to sleep! ;) |
| 11:27 |
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cait1 |
bbl all |
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magnuse |
slef: there is branch in their repo: https://github.com/PTFS-Europe[…]tree/3.8.ptfs_ILL |
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wizzyrea |
it's still crackly it's so new |
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slef |
magnuse: groan. So they've developed it for koha, but not bothered to add it to koha. |
| 11:30 |
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wizzyrea |
..yet |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yet. But still advertise that they have. |
| 11:31 |
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magnuse |
and they have until tomorrow to get it into 3.12... |
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wizzyrea |
kek. |
| 11:32 |
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magnuse |
and it looks like it is based on 3.8... |
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slef |
magnuse: oooh, maybe I should reply and point that out. |
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drojf |
slef: please do |
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wizzyrea |
it's 2 versions behind at this point - f they only finished it a month ago that kind of explains that. |
| 11:32 |
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slef |
magnuse: yeah, but one commit talks about fixes for 3.10, so it might not be as straightforward as that. |
| 11:33 |
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magnuse |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like they have code in there from as recently as 3 months ago |
| 11:33 |
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magnuse |
i just looked at the name of the branch |
| 11:33 |
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magnuse |
yeah 3.8.8 |
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wizzyrea |
db updates stop at 3.8.7 |
| 11:36 |
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wizzyrea |
oh wait never mind there's the 3.8.8 |
| 11:36 |
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wizzyrea |
further down than I was lookin :) |
| 11:37 |
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magnuse |
and there is lots of stuff that is just new, so getting it up-to-date with master might not be that hard |
| 11:38 |
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drojf |
so, get started. that's gonne be a long day :P |
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* magnuse |
has other fish to fry |
| 11:40 |
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drojf |
fishpizza fryday? :) |
| 11:43 |
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slef |
drojf: kebabs |
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magnuse |
drojf: nooo, don't mess with the pizza! |
| 11:44 |
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drojf |
there was a fish kebab near my old flat. it smelled horrible, i never tried it |
| 11:44 |
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drojf |
fish kebab place, not one kebab :) |
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magnuse |
lol! |
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slef |
wahanui: kebabs? |
| 11:50 |
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wahanui |
are so awesomely delicious they will make grown men weep. |
| 11:50 |
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slef |
furry |
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drojf |
lol |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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wizzyrea |
running from git in production? |
| 12:03 |
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wizzyrea |
hm. |
| 12:04 |
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wizzyrea |
http://myjetpack.tumblr.com/po[…]out-in-late-april |
| 12:04 |
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wizzyrea |
http://i1.wp.com/laughingsquid[…]?resize=500%2C317 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry the 2nd |
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* magnuse |
used to run from git in production |
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* Dyrcona |
runs from git in production. |
| 12:13 |
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Dyrcona |
But that's a different software. |
| 12:14 |
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drojf |
what i picture when i read this is: »OMG, it's git in production, let's run!« |
| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: isn't it a bit late for you? |
| 12:15 |
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tcohen |
maybe its the 3.10.x branch from git |
| 12:15 |
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wizzyrea |
mmm yep |
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jcamins |
And I thought I saw a PR from ByWater about PTFS Europe's ILL code at some point. |
| 12:16 |
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wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]e=player_embedded |
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jcamins |
Myshkin just came running over and jumped on my lap when I turned on that video. |
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wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]e=player_embedded |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea, what are you doing up? |
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wizzyrea |
causing trouble, wreaking havoc |
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wizzyrea |
also, good morning |
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oleonard |
Hi :) |
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jcamins |
Myshkin just acted out the penguin falling off a cliff. |
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wizzyrea |
hahaha |
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* cait |
waves |
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* oleonard |
waves back to cait and cait1 |
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cait1 |
... running out of battery soon too :( |
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jcamins |
cait++ # for finding longstanding bugs in the authority linker |
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cait1 |
jcamins: oups |
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cait1 |
found a power outlet |
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cait1 |
:) |
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cait1 |
jcamins: do you have a patch ready for my latest complaints? :) |
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cait1 |
because I am about to start testing on a new bug right now :) |
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jcamins |
I do. |
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cait1 |
oh yay |
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jcamins |
Writing a commit message now. |
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jcamins |
Actually, you found longstanding bugs in SimpleSearch *and* in the authority linker. |
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cait1 |
cool |
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jcamins |
Also one new bug. |
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cait1 |
ah |
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cait1 |
that was the linker thing I noticed? |
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cait1 |
I thought it was my weird data again :) |
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jcamins |
The linker thing was longstanding. |
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jcamins |
It is. |
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cait1 |
*sigh* |
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jcamins |
However, there is a situation where weird data can crash the linker. |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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cait1 |
guess the data is good for something then... good for testing |
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cait1 |
not sure i really deserve that karma |
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cait1 |
Joubu: still around? |
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jcamins |
Myshkin has learned that if he starts gagging like he's going to vomit he gets attention. |
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cait1 |
jcamins: and you hurry up - we are on our way into the black forrest with bad internet connectiona nd lots of tunnels ;) |
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jcamins |
This is not a trick I approve of. |
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cait1 |
lol |
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jcamins |
Attached. |
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cait1 |
that was fast :) |
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cait1 |
waiting for my database right now.... loading dump after testing the renewal patch |
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* cait1 |
gives myshkin some attention |
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tcohen |
we could add to the crowdfund the task of extending coverage of unit tests |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that would be excellent. |
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magnuse |
i think we need a wiki page for brainstorming... |
| 12:54 |
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oleonard |
All the crowdfunding dollars are going now to funding a Google Reader replacement :P |
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cait1 |
lol |
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jcamins |
oleonard: hehe. |
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cait1 |
in koha? ;) |
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magnuse |
heh |
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magnuse |
yeah, gotta have a feed reader in koha |
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magnuse |
then an email client |
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cait1 |
jcamins: did you notice we reached the 6th qa follow-up? :P |
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oleonard |
Then a WYSIWYG HTML editor |
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jcamins |
Facebook just told me that I am a failure because I have 259 friends and my wife has 500-something and my brother almost 1000. |
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cait1 |
LOL |
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jcamins |
cait1: it's because I write 1-line QA follow-ups. |
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cait1 |
facebook still thinks I am norwegian |
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cait1 |
becuase one out of my 4 friends is |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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cait1 |
the ads are amusing |
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cait1 |
jcamins: so i am supposed to try running the linker again, right? |
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Joubu |
cait1: yep, i'm back |
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cait1 |
for athe authorpop thing - xslt or normal view? |
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cait1 |
because I only get a by line and never ever an additional authors line in current master and I have subjects in 689 |
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jcamins |
cait1: yes please. |
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jcamins |
689? |
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cait1 |
jcamins: will try without first and see if my manually linked one works now |
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jcamins |
cait1: yeah, I'd like to try both. |
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cait1 |
jcamins: germany decided to put subject chain subjects there |
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cait1 |
not going to argue with you about that :) |
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cait1 |
first test looks good |
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jcamins |
Oh, those crazy Germans. |
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cait1 |
i am testing with a saint - it shoud just work, right? :) |
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Joubu |
ssh koha-qa.local |
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cait1 |
benedictus de nursia |
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Joubu |
oops |
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cait1 |
:) |
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* cait1 |
sends Joubu cookies |
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Joubu |
thanks :) |
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cait1 |
jcamins: manually linked authority works nicely |
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cait1 |
checking the linker now |
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jcamins |
Pasword: |
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* jcamins |
waits for Joubu to enter his password. :P |
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cait1 |
ah |
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cait1 |
interesting |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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cait1 |
it does something now,but it doesn't look so promising |
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jcamins |
Probably not so good. |
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Joubu |
jcamins: simply "toto" :) |
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cait1 |
oAuth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Match-heading Bib-1 |
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jcamins |
cait1: on every record? |
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cait1 |
weird data? |
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cait1 |
it looks like |
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cait1 |
I don't see anything else |
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jcamins |
I usually get that about a half dozen times when I run the linker, not every time. |
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cait1 |
well for the first 1500 it seems pretty much that |
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cait1 |
werid data? |
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jcamins |
Hrm. I suspect it may be. |
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cait1 |
i am runnign with -v -l now |
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jcamins |
Oh, I just thought a problem with my patch... |
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cait1 |
hm still running |
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jcamins |
You're going to get warnings. |
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cait1 |
hm? |
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cait1 |
you found one you mean? |
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jcamins |
About trying to compare undefined variables. |
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jcamins |
*thought of |
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cait1 |
so I can stop the complaining script for now? :) |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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cait1 |
ok |
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* cait1 |
waits |
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* jcamins |
messes around with his data so it will look like cait's. |
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cait1 |
:P |
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cait1 |
you got my data |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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cait1 |
you could just use that for your testing :) |
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jcamins |
I just remembered that. |
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cait1 |
heh |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha... |
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cait1 |
uhoh |
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cait1 |
if you want you can give me a new patch without the linker patch |
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cait1 |
part |
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cait1 |
because i am about to pass qa on the query parser |
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jcamins |
You bet! |
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cait1 |
but if you fixed the linker in another bug... I woudl be grateful of course :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
I think I may have a fix... |
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cait1 |
cool |
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cait1 |
I will revert the last patch then? |
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jcamins |
I'll split the last patch, first. |
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cait1 |
hm |
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jcamins |
Wait... yeah, just revert the last patch and I'll squash my new fix together. |
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cait1 |
*confused* :) |
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jcamins |
So, yes. Revert the last patch, and look at something else while I'm confirming my fix against your data. |
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jcamins |
Which is weird. :P |
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cait1 |
ok :) |
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cait1 |
I won't apologize for my data |
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cait1 |
it has lots of useful information. |
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cait1 |
we are in heidelberg now :) |
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cait1 |
@wunder Heidelberg |
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cait1 |
and the snow is gone and we got sun! |
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huginn |
cait1: Error: No such location could be found. |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Crowdfunding |
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cait1 |
huginn: tsk. |
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huginn |
cait1: downloading the Perl source |
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cait1 |
tcohen++ :) |
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cait1 |
@wunder Heidelberg, Germany |
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huginn |
cait1: The current temperature in Heidelberg, Germany is 2.0°C (2:12 PM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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cait1 |
getting warmertoo :) |
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magnuse |
tcohen++ - you beat me to it :-) (and i took the liberty of unindenting the list) |
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cait1 |
Joubu: you tested today on master? |
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Joubu |
cait1: 9711 ? |
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cait1 |
yep |
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Joubu |
no, I tested on my old local branch |
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Joubu |
I will rebase it |
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cait1 |
Joubu: never mind :) |
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cait1 |
normal view!! |
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wahanui |
normal view is ok now |
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cait1 |
I am looking at a really ugly detail page now :) |
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Joubu |
cait1: cool :) |
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cait1 |
... and now it's pretty :) |
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cait1 |
I will switch templates and the pref and if it's ok it's passed q |
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cait1 |
a |
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tcohen |
bgkriegel's patch for bug 9610 *should* make it into 3.12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9610 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Spanish translation of MARC21 default bibliographic framework |
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oleonard |
Would the need for a fix for Bug 7518 be eliminated by approval of Bug 9239? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , searches with quotation marks don't work |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
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jcamins |
oleonard: not necessarily. |
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jcamins |
I'd probably push 7518 anyway, even though it's a no-op. |
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oleonard |
no-op? |
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datadoctor |
Good morning! |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it won't do much. |
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jcamins |
However, when QP is disabled, it could be of use to someone. |
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tcohen |
can someone point me to an explanation of the assertion "Plack needs persistence"? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: Plack is a persistent environment. |
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jcamins |
It loads the code ocne. |
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jcamins |
*once |
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jcamins |
That's the entire point. |
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* tcohen |
is trying to process your response |
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jcamins |
Basically Plack compiles all the Perl code when it is started (or when something is first called), and keeps the compiled form in RAM. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, still don't get the relation with persistence |
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jcamins |
That's what persistence is. |
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jcamins |
The code and variables persist. |
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jcamins |
What are you thinking of when you say "persistence"? |
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jcamins |
I suspect probably the problem is that you're thinking of something else when you hear "persistence." |
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tcohen |
I wasthinking of a persistence layer, which could be provided by an ORM |
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jcamins |
That's something else. |
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tcohen |
not "dealing with the fact that code is loaded just once and as variables persist in time we need to take care of it" |
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jcamins |
Closely related, but when we talk about persistence being required for Plack, we're talking about variables and code. |
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cait |
hmpf |
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tcohen |
thanks jcamins for the clarificatio, i'm going to think of some example scenarios to get the whole idea |
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cait |
jcamins: any news? |
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jcamins |
cait: I may have found a bug. |
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cait |
oh ok |
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cait |
finding them is good |
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jcamins |
I'm checking now. |
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jcamins |
I have a suspicion that our Zebra config may be wrong, and have always been wrong. |
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cait |
I would not be totaly surprised |
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cait |
in which area? |
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jcamins |
I think Match-heading may be defined wrong. |
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jcamins |
And since I copied the definition from Match, that means Match is wrong, and since Match is just another name for Heading... |
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cait |
investiage and letme know |
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cait |
I am going to tackle some smaller things until then and as long as internt connection permits |
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jcamins |
Sounds good. :) |
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* oleonard |
petitions chris_n to remove saved/shared Bugzilla searches for 3.2.x and 3.4.x |
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tcohen |
(reverse-i-search)`koha-qa.': ~/git/koha-qa-test/koha-qa.pl -c 1 -v 3 |
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tcohen |
oops :-S |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell bag I found this in my comment spam today, and though you might find this amusing: "bag is sheer novelty, so buy it on pure emotion if it speaks to you." |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: Sounds like something that sloganizer would come up with. |
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gmcharlt |
to my surprise, I'm inordinately fond of seeking out the "treasures" in comment spam feeds |
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magnuse |
gotta have a hobby :-) |
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tcohen |
refactoring happens to be boring |
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jcamins |
tcohen: it does indeed. |
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magnuse |
kia ora Viktor |
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* cait |
likes to tidy up things... but she is a librarian after all |
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Viktor |
kia ora magnuse |
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Viktor |
(Looking up what I just said :) |
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magnuse |
Viktor: still time to get a signoff or two into 3.12, or even a bugfix :-) |
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tcohen |
jcamins, I'll remove oldRecord from ModZebra as is only used for NoZebra |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
tcohen++ |
| 14:36 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: it's a maori greeting :-) |
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Viktor |
magnuse I would like that, but there's always to much other stuff going on :/ But - the workshop this week gave some good input on ideas that are easy to implement. Like mouseover text that would be helpful. I might be able to make that happen as a start :) |
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Viktor |
magnuse phew :) |
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magnuse |
Viktor: that would be cool! but remember that the deadline for new features in 3.12 is tomorrow, while bugs can be fixed for another month or so :-) |
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Viktor |
magnuse: Will shoot for 3.14 then. Sorry I missed the meeting here yesterday. |
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Viktor |
magnuse: They actually came up with quite a few ideas on how to streamline the workflow in the staff interface. |
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oleonard |
Viktor: Look at the Bootstrap options if you're looking to add tooltips, popovers, etc. |
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Viktor |
oleonard: Will look into that - thanks! But as of now I don't even know what it means :) |
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oleonard |
http://twitter.github.com/boot[…]p/javascript.html |
| 14:42 |
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oleonard |
Viktor: Feel free to file enhancement bugs for things you think would be improvements even if you don't have time now to send fixes |
| 14:43 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that's a really good idea! |
| 14:44 |
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oleonard |
Joubu: I'm confused about which page gave you an error when you tested Bug 9466 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9466 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on saved reports page |
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Viktor |
oleonard magnuse: So that would enable me to make customizations without changing the community code? |
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oleonard |
Viktor: If what you're talking about are improvements they should be made to community code |
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Viktor |
oleonard magnuse: While also making it possible to integrate it into the main code if the community likes what we come up with? |
| 14:45 |
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magnuse |
the community generally likes good ideas :-) |
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magnuse |
Viktor: "that would enable me" - what do yu mean by "that"? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: directly on reports/guided_reports.pl |
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Viktor |
magnuse : That = using bootstrap to add stuff without having to mod the .pm files |
| 14:47 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: js/datatables.js (which contains the dt_add_type_uk_dates js function) is loaded on condition |
| 14:48 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: l.30 should be [% IF (dateformat == 'metric' and saved1) %] |
| 14:49 |
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Joubu |
else the an undefined function is called |
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Viktor |
magnuse: The easiest fix they want is a mouseover for the tabs of the search-box with the keyboard shortcuts for that tab. If it's already there we were'nt able to trig that mouseover-event. |
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Viktor |
magnuse: Another one is moving the box with a patrons loans, holds etc to the top of the "patron details" page. They need that information all the time and have to scroll to see it. |
| 14:51 |
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Viktor |
magnuse: simple enough stuff. Just changing how stuff is displayed - but adds a lot of speed to their workflow. |
| 14:51 |
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magnuse |
nice |
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magnuse |
Viktor: i think with jquery you can fix things without changing code. with bootstrap it would more have to chenge the code |
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Viktor |
magnuse: Aha. |
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Viktor |
Think I'll write RFCs for these things and provide a starting point that people can improve on. I know how to write the code in HTML/CSS, but not what the best way is to make Koha output it :) |
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drojf |
if it is "drastic" layout changes i guess it is nothing that will go into the code because people will say "oh no that thing has always been down there and now it is up there, oh my god why?" |
| 14:55 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: if it's just changing js and html, it should be just a question of changing the templates |
| 14:55 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: seen this? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'this', magnuse |
| 14:57 |
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oleonard |
Got it Joubu, thanks |
| 14:57 |
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Viktor |
Thanks magnuse - had forgotten about it! |
| 14:58 |
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Viktor |
drojf You have a point there. |
| 14:58 |
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magnuse |
drojf, Viktor: the way to get around that is to regulate the new layout with a syspref... |
| 14:59 |
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Viktor |
drojf - But I still think I'll try to suggest the thing I think more people might benefit from. I'm a little hesitant to do a lot of DOM-modding after a page is loaded. |
| 14:59 |
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drojf |
magnuse: true, but that might eventually lead to a lot of sysprefs for moving fields around. |
| 15:00 |
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magnuse |
drojf: sure |
| 15:00 |
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drojf |
(not trying to talk you out of it, i like layout improvements a lot) |
| 15:00 |
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Viktor |
magnuse Might side with drojf there. |
| 15:00 |
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drojf |
just my experience that a lot of people turn mad if something moves a few pixels away :D |
| 15:00 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 15:01 |
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Viktor |
:-) Recognize that yes... |
| 15:01 |
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Viktor |
magnuse drojf But how do you feel about adding sysprefs for adding customizations that are specifically for sweden? |
| 15:02 |
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magnuse |
btw, i completely agree that it seems awkward to have the checkouts at the bottom of the patron details page! :-) |
| 15:02 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: good question. not possible to make them more general? |
| 15:02 |
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Viktor |
It is, in't it? Especially since you have a "patron summary card" up at the left anyway. |
| 15:02 |
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jcamins |
What makes them "specifically for Sweden"? |
| 15:02 |
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drojf |
Viktor: it is nothing that is inherently swedish |
| 15:02 |
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drojf |
yes |
| 15:02 |
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drojf |
that ;) |
| 15:03 |
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magnuse |
are you thinking about the validating swedish "person numbers" thing? |
| 15:03 |
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drojf |
THAT would be very swedish |
| 15:03 |
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Viktor |
jcmins : Stuff like date formats, address formats, cover image vendors, syncing records with our national library, syncing patron addresses with our goverment database. |
| 15:03 |
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drojf |
a koha account for everyone, together with the person number :D |
| 15:03 |
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Viktor |
magnuse Oh - and that too! |
| 15:04 |
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magnuse |
person number = social security number, according to google translate |
| 15:04 |
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Viktor |
Or could it be done with some sort of "custom settings file" that you could download? |
| 15:05 |
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Viktor |
magnuse Yep it should translate to that. But it is a bit different from country to country I think. |
| 15:05 |
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drojf |
Viktor: those are little things in a lot of different places and i think it should just go into main koha, like the other date forms, cover image sources etc |
| 15:05 |
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magnuse |
when you set up the web installer to work for swedish you can have it load "swedish" syspref settings |
| 15:05 |
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drojf |
not sure what the government stuff is supposed to do :) |
| 15:06 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i'd say get it all in there as long as it doesn't trip others up |
| 15:06 |
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Viktor |
magnuse - Having "settings for sweden" to chose during install would be glorious. |
| 15:06 |
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drojf |
that would be an installer thing to do after you put all the other stuff in the regular places i think |
| 15:07 |
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Viktor |
drojf magnuse : I think you guys just sorted this out. We'll get everything in the main code and add a "enable settings for sweden" choice. |
| 15:07 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: here are the "norwegian settings" that you can choose when you run the web installer for norwegian: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9db53125;hb=HEAD |
| 15:07 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: yeah, in general, i think that is the way to go |
| 15:07 |
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drojf |
i agree. we saved sweden! |
| 15:07 |
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drojf |
:P |
| 15:08 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 15:08 |
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Viktor |
:D |
| 15:10 |
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Viktor |
Going away to blog a bit about our little interaction here :) |
| 15:10 |
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magnuse |
Viktor++ |
| 15:11 |
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* magnuse |
shields his eyes from the light coming from the lightbulbs above Viktor's head |
| 15:11 |
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Viktor-away |
:) :) |
| 15:12 |
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gmcharlt |
lightbugs++ |
| 15:12 |
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gmcharlt |
er, NEED MORE COFFEE |
| 15:12 |
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gmcharlt |
lightbulbs++ |
| 15:12 |
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oleonard |
lightningbugs++ |
| 15:15 |
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magnuse |
lightbugs are probably easier to solve than hardbugs |
| 15:16 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <magnuse> lightbugs are probably easier to solve than hardbugs |
| 15:16 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #237 added. |
| 15:17 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 15:20 |
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magnuse |
if anyone is curious about what sorts of other things Viktor is pondering, i can recommend running this through google translate: http://blogg.regionhalland.se/[…]ch-att-hoppas-pa/ |
| 15:20 |
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magnuse |
s/pondering/pondering adding to koha/ |
| 15:27 |
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tcohen |
how relevant is the file installer/data/Pg/kohastructure.sql ? |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: not. |
| 15:27 |
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tcohen |
(is it even maintained?) |
| 15:28 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 15:28 |
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oleonard |
Viktor-away: Bug 7843. At least there's a bug for it :) |
| 15:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7843 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Create RSS for OPAC news |
| 15:30 |
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drojf |
»Koppling till MTM (Gamla TPB)«. i thought that meant the pirate bay :/ |
| 15:30 |
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Viktor |
drojf We have two TPB - One from the government with loads of audio-books as mp3 (Daisy). And the other one :) |
| 15:31 |
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Viktor |
Neither one is legal for people in general to download from. |
| 15:31 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 15:31 |
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drojf |
d'oh |
| 15:31 |
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Viktor |
I'm working on cleaning up the text from google translate. But only got like 25% through before having to do other stuff. |
| 15:32 |
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magnuse |
other_stuff_to_do-- ;-) |
| 15:32 |
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Viktor |
But - there is now a blogpost at http://blogg.regionhalland.se/[…]tings-for-sweden/ about our little chat. Thanks for all the help :) |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: do you have any patches in Koha yet? |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
If not, you have two months for fixing a bug. :) |
| 15:33 |
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jcamins |
(and you can be a committer for 3.12:) |
| 15:34 |
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oleonard |
And sign-offs, don't forget those! |
| 15:34 |
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Viktor |
jcamins - No. Well - I've had magnuse do the stuff I can't. Which he does very well :) But I'm hoping to get at least a or something in there one day. A bug might be the thing :) |
| 15:34 |
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jcamins |
Yes, lots of opportunity for signoffs! |
| 15:34 |
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magnuse |
yep! |
| 15:35 |
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Viktor |
Will look into that - but not promising anything until it's done :) |
| 15:35 |
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jcamins |
You can do it! |
| 15:35 |
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jcamins |
Yay Viktor1 |
| 15:35 |
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jcamins |
*! |
| 15:37 |
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Viktor |
I might bug you here about if I'm pushing the right butting if I actually do manage to get over the initial barrier and make a try (there is no try yes I know?) |
| 15:37 |
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Viktor |
LOL _button_ |
| 15:38 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: that's why we are here :-) |
| 15:38 |
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Viktor |
magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
the first thing to do for both signoff and writing patches is to get a dev-install up and running |
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tcohen |
INSTALL.fedora7 jcamins? |
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drojf |
Viktor++ # soon-to-be developer :) |
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magnuse |
Viktor: probably in a vm, unlesss you run debian/ubuntu (i seem to recall you wrote about running koha in a vm in the "is it good enough" report... and with the packages it has become a lot easier) |
| 15:40 |
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smeagol |
Hi..would anyone know why I'm getting this message on my SIP server? "Use of inherited AUTOLOAD for non-method ILS::Transaction::Checkin::dt_from_string() is deprecated at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Checkin.pm line 57." |
| 15:41 |
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Viktor |
magnuse Yep - I did run it in VirtualBox. Will have to reinstall on the new computer. |
| 15:41 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: cool. and it will be easier now than it was then :-) |
| 15:42 |
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Viktor |
drojf : I could title myself dev if we talk about HTML/CSS/Javascript and some Python/PHP/ASP. But it's been a while. And Koha-dev is still a long way to go. But I do want to learn. |
| 15:43 |
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drojf |
Viktor: that's all we ask ;) |
| 15:43 |
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drojf |
kidding, we don't ask anything |
| 15:43 |
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drojf |
but it would be cool! |
| 15:43 |
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Viktor |
drojf - Yes it would! Learning Perl would be great even if only to be able to understand more of what's going on. |
| 15:44 |
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Viktor |
drojf :) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: out of date, I think. |
| 15:44 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: and you don't have to learn Perl - there is plenty to do with templates, js, sample data, xslt etc etc |
| 15:45 |
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jcamins |
Lots and lots and lots. |
| 15:45 |
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jcamins |
However, we're all for people learning Perl. :) |
| 15:45 |
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magnuse |
yeah, sure! |
| 15:45 |
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magnuse |
perlpower to the people! |
| 15:45 |
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tcohen |
are stopwords from the NZ world? |
| 15:45 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yes they are. |
| 15:46 |
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Viktor |
magnuse jcamins: Good news! :) |
| 15:46 |
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* jcamins |
hums "A new Argentina, the voice of the Perl is heard..." |
| 15:46 |
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Viktor |
jcamins tcohen : Is it possible to add your own stop word list as a librarian? |
| 15:47 |
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drojf |
Viktor: you are doing the swedish translation with professional translators, right? |
| 15:47 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: no, because stopwords do not work at all. |
| 15:47 |
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magnuse |
yeah, forget stopwords :-) |
| 15:48 |
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Viktor |
drojf : Correct! We updated opac sv just recently. Are waiting for the funds to translate the staff interface. Should be here any day now, |
| 15:48 |
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drojf |
Viktor: in the end, will there be the translated files, or will there also be some kind of swedish_librarianese dictionary, glossary or whatever? |
| 15:48 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: ah, i thought that was already in progress... |
| 15:49 |
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tcohen |
git rm koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/admin/stopwords.tt |
| 15:49 |
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magnuse |
yeah, any stopwords related stuff is a leftover from NoZebra, i think? |
| 15:49 |
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Viktor |
magnuse: I have the company standy to start it. The funds that we recently got were for customizations, Pubsubhubbub, communication about the project, evaluation of the project and salaries for the people working with the project. |
| 15:50 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: ah |
| 15:50 |
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smeagol |
Hi..would anyone know why I'm getting this message on my SIP server? "Use of inherited AUTOLOAD for non-method ILS::Transaction::Checkin::dt_from_string() is deprecated at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Checkin.pm line 57." It was working the other day.. |
| 15:50 |
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Viktor |
drojf : Only translated files as we planned it. |
| 15:51 |
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Viktor |
drojf: But it sounds like a interesting idea. I guess you could pick apart the translation with some script magic and build your own dictionary(?) I don't know how complex it is to parse the .po files though. But it seems like a quite basic file format. |
| 15:51 |
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drojf |
Viktor: i suppose they will do something like that anyway to stay consistent, maybe you could ask to get it if it is possible (and does not add any cost)? |
| 15:51 |
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tcohen |
#koha, can you mention words that recall nozebra for you? |
| 15:52 |
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Viktor |
magnuse: Nozebra. Aha - understand. |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: "problem" |
| 15:52 |
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drojf |
Viktor: yeah i am beginning to think about a machine translation support thing with a librarianese dictionary |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
"nuisance" |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
"annoyance" |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
:P |
| 15:52 |
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tcohen |
c'mon |
| 15:53 |
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drojf |
Viktor: and if you would have a company that does one for your translation, i would already have one non-english version to play with ;) |
| 15:53 |
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Viktor |
drojf: Interesting thought. I've noticed there is a lot a "script leftovers" in the .po files. |
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cait |
hmpf back |
| 15:54 |
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Viktor |
drojf: Cleaning those up would be great, but "suggested translation" being generated would be even better. |
| 15:54 |
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magnuse |
was someone (rangi?) talking about pootle talking to google translate the other day, or did i dream it? |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: he was. |
| 15:54 |
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Viktor |
drojf: I'll look into it! |
| 15:54 |
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drojf |
magnuse: yes. but screw google. there is also apertium support |
| 15:54 |
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Viktor |
Hi cait |
| 15:54 |
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drojf |
Viktor: cool :) |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
drojf: apertium? |
| 15:54 |
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slef |
apertium++ |
| 15:54 |
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drojf |
foss translation tool. that might suddenly find its way into my thesis |
| 15:55 |
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drojf |
since i looked at it yesternight :D |
| 15:55 |
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slef |
I like it but its coverage is sadly patchy. |
| 15:55 |
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drojf |
slef: DIY |
| 15:55 |
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cait |
hi Viktor :) |
| 15:55 |
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slef |
drojf: what part of me looks like a linguist? |
| 15:56 |
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drojf |
slef: everyone is a linguist :) |
| 15:56 |
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Viktor |
A highlighting/indexing question - I've noticed when trying boolean operators that using 'or' works well but that Koha highlights the 'or' in the results. |
| 15:56 |
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drojf |
as a linguist, i should not be saying that |
| 15:56 |
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drojf |
:D |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: "or" doesn't actually work entirely, just as a head's up. |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
And, yeah, it's annoying. |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
bug 9239 starts fixing it. |
| 15:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 15:57 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 15:57 |
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slef |
jcamins: PTFS-Europe haven't been in touch with you about their inter-library loans thing, have they? |
| 15:57 |
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cait |
and we are getting really close now :) |
| 15:57 |
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jcamins |
slef: no, but I think ByWater had a PR about it? |
| 15:57 |
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Viktor |
jcamins : I see! We found that it seems like or is interpreted as "stuff I need to truncate search for" sometimes. |
| 15:57 |
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cait |
jcamins: hm might think about EDIFACT? |
| 15:58 |
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slef |
EDIFACT... one of two topics that make my heart sink |
| 15:58 |
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slef |
RFID being the other one |
| 15:58 |
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jcamins |
RFID? |
| 15:58 |
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wahanui |
i think RFID is all sep, what makes it hard is when the rfid system does retarded things that mean you need to decode the results |
| 15:58 |
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magnuse |
sep? |
| 15:59 |
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jcamins |
RFID shouldn't have much to do with Koha. |
| 15:59 |
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slef |
I've code for 3.0 or 3.2 for both of those, unpublishably tainted and no money to purge it. |
| 15:59 |
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slef |
jcamins: it depends if the staff systems need to drive the tagging hardware themselves. |
| 15:59 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: "or" has unusual precedence, so sometimes all it does is mess up truncation. |
| 15:59 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: petition granted |
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oleonard |
Thanks :) |
| 16:00 |
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cait |
jcamins: there is such a think as "full integration"... but it's noa fun thing to do |
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slef |
jcamins: if it's all speaking SIP or similar, no worries. |
| 16:00 |
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cait |
jcamins: rfid devices at the circ desk and telling them to what to do with the tags |
| 16:00 |
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tcohen |
how should I handle 1) table deletion 2) sysprefs deletion for the nz removal? |
| 16:01 |
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slef |
cait: yeah like block/unblock security |
| 16:01 |
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jcamins |
Eww. That sounds unpleasant. |
| 16:01 |
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cait |
yep |
| 16:01 |
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magnuse |
tcohen is planning to remove new zealand?!? |
| 16:01 |
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Viktor |
jcamins : Will the new parser mean that CCL is replaced as syntax for searches? Yay for fixing broken parsing! |
| 16:01 |
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cait |
that would be the most needed part I think |
| 16:01 |
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slef |
the RFID stuff did have a release, actually. |
| 16:01 |
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cait |
then write the barcode to the tag... etc. |
| 16:01 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: yes. |
| 16:01 |
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Viktor |
jcamins: ok. |
| 16:01 |
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cait |
slef: but the worst is probably dealing with multipart stuff |
| 16:02 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: though a follow-up will make it possible to change the operators to whatever you want. |
| 16:02 |
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jcamins |
or/and/not/etc. |
| 16:02 |
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slef |
cait: oh yeah, staff note is all you could do when we were doing it. |
| 16:02 |
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magnuse |
cait: plent of duct tape is the best way to deal with that! |
| 16:02 |
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cait |
heh |
| 16:02 |
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jcamins |
Or a staple gun. |
| 16:03 |
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magnuse |
hellz yez! |
| 16:03 |
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cait |
I can see that course you take is having some effect :) |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
Just attach all the parts to the patron, and next time they come in, they'll still be together. |
| 16:03 |
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Viktor |
jcamins: Sound good! Will the indexes also be affected - stuff like "ti:queen" ? |
| 16:03 |
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cait |
lol |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: no. |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
Well, sort of. |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
Viktor: that is, all the existing index names will remain the same. |
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jcamins |
But it'll be easy to change them, unlike the way it is now. |
| 16:04 |
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Viktor |
jcamins: I like it! |
| 16:04 |
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cait |
it is to like :) |
| 16:04 |
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magnuse |
search rewrite? |
| 16:04 |
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wahanui |
search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 16:04 |
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Viktor |
fait indeed! |
| 16:04 |
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cait |
feel free to give the bug a test run - I am testing right now, but the more we test the better :) |
| 16:04 |
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Viktor |
cait indeed |
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Viktor |
Have to run! Thanks for the help! |
| 16:04 |
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cait |
hm jcamins: we got to 11600 this time |
| 16:04 |
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jcamins |
cait: and failed? :( |
| 16:04 |
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cait |
yep |
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magnuse |
have fun Viktor! |
| 16:05 |
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cait |
some shiny new error - you know you want to fix it! |
| 16:05 |
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cait |
loking for th erecord now |
| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
I already fixed that one. |
| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
I must've squashed it out. |
| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
Sorry! |
| 16:05 |
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* magnuse |
has some other fish to fry, in the kitchen |
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cait |
yum |
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cait |
have fun :) |
| 16:05 |
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cait |
and see ya monday! (love saying that) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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|
* drojf |
goes for a walk to sort out all these crazy ideas |
| 16:09 |
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cait |
:) |
| 16:09 |
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cait |
have fun too! |
| 16:09 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 16:11 |
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magnuse |
cait: see ya! :-) |
| 16:13 |
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slef |
the iceweasel Tools menu entry that let me log out of http auth has gone since I last used it - anyone know where? |
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cait |
not using iceweasel sorry |
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slef |
iceweasel is pretty much firefox without the non-free bits |
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slef |
ah found it, it's moved to the History menu |
| 16:21 |
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slef |
mjkaye helped me find it :) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
so how does git bz attach a range ? |
| 16:35 |
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cait |
15 patches.... |
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* jcamins |
heads into the city. |
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jcamins |
cait: I use git bz attach HEAD^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... git bz attach HEAD |
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jcamins |
That's not the correct way, it's just how I do it. |
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jcamins |
You can do something with tildes. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
nah, if it's good enough for the rm |
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cait |
and you wanted to go to the city. |
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cait |
hm into |
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cait |
argh |
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cait |
jcamins: you won't like this |
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cait |
QueryParser.t failed |
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cait |
@later tell jcamins take a look at the testing summary |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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ambz |
greetings to all |
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ambz |
i am planning to write a minor extension to customize koha for my needs... i was wondering if there are any documents or design doc or something like a code overview or walkthrough... |
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ambz |
i couldn't find one so far |
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ambz |
anyone here? |
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wahanui |
anyone here is probably familiarized with the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script? |
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tcohen |
hi ambz |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget anyone here |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot anyone here |
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ambz |
hi tcohen |
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ambz |
wow, the git stats indicate almost 8 million lines of perl code |
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ambz |
8-) |
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ambz |
i never imagined that the koha codebase would be so huge |
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ambz |
oh sorry, that includes lines of code in non pl files too |
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oleonard |
What are you wanting to customize ambz ? |
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ambz |
well, for cataloging, i want to be able to query oclc xisbn (the free oclc service) and display those results to the user |
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ambz |
Then if a user selects a particular record from the results, I want to convert that into MARC and put that into the catalog |
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ambz |
So I want an ISBN --> MARC import utility |
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oleonard |
I thought you had to pay to get MARC records from OCLC |
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ambz |
Of course, if the ISBN lookup fails, I have to fall back to z39.50 (which isn't likely to work since there aren't any good z39.50 servers in India) and then I fall back to creating a MARC record from scratch... does this sound right? |
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ambz |
Yes, you have to. But they offer an ISBN lookup for free. |
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ambz |
Example: http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webs[…]&fl=*&format=json |
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ambz |
I have to convert that JSON response to MARC... well as much as possible. |
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ambz |
I don't even need an API key to query the xisbn service :) |
| 17:14 |
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ambz |
Does this idea seem feasible? |
| 17:15 |
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oleonard |
No idea :) But if you want to start working on a contribution to Koha, this is required reading: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 17:15 |
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oleonard |
Also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eptance/Rejection |
| 17:18 |
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ambz |
cool |
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ambz |
is there a wiki or docs or anything to orient a new developer to the codebase? |
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oleonard |
Not that I know of, but browse around the wiki |
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ambz |
alright. thanks. |
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tcohen |
hi bgkriegel |
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bgkriegel |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, bgkriegel |
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bgkriegel |
thanks for the sign |
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bgkriegel |
hi wahanui |
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tcohen |
u r welcome, we are pleased @ koha-es to see your work get into master soon |
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bgkriegel |
with a bit of luck :) |
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jcamins |
ms_access-- |
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oleonard |
Wow, it's been a while since I had to say that, thankfully |
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jcamins |
Lucky you. |
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jcamins |
Right now I'm fixing a report that it spat out. |
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jcamins |
Step 1: globally remove tabs, which were used for all layout. |
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jcamins |
And while I'm at it, ms_word-- |
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jcamins |
I would like to indent the first line of all paragraphs. |
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jcamins |
I figured out how to do it. |
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jcamins |
Is this _really_ the program used by non-computer literate people for word processing? |
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drojf |
jcamins: it is, to make sure they never want to learn any other computer things after that |
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jcamins |
windows-- |
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drojf |
windows-- |
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drojf |
@karma windows |
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huginn |
drojf: Karma for "windows" has been increased 1 time and decreased 26 times for a total karma of -25. |
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drojf |
i bet the increase was for real windows in a building |
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drojf |
is there karma-blame? :) |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
logs? :) |
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cait |
@karma drojf |
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huginn |
cait: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 74 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 71. |
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drojf |
w00t |
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drojf |
i think all decreases were done by mtompset ^^ |
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tcohen |
if the world is free and open, why do we need windows and gates? (old joke) |
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drojf |
hehe |
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cait |
why did he decrease you? |
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drojf |
i think i did it with him once as a joke and immediately increased it again but he was not amused |
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oleonard |
Do not mock the power of the -- ! |
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magnuse |
@karma <! |
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huginn |
magnuse: Karma for "<!" has been increased 9 times and decreased 125 times for a total karma of -116. |
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drojf |
hehe |
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drojf |
poor <! |
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drojf |
<!++ |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
621509 |
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magnuse |
oops :-) |
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drojf |
<!++<! # fish to fry |
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drojf |
well, maybe it was fried already |
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magnuse |
it was, and it was nice |
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* drojf |
excitedly watches the jqueryparser race in his bugzilla inbox |
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jcamins |
drojf: hehe. |
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jcamins |
ms_access-- |
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jcamins |
It looks like it exported only a small portion of my data. |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins |
Confirmed. |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
:( |
| 18:21 |
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tcohen |
can anyone that hates NoZebra enough sign on bug 7440? I'm about to post a follow-up for updatedatabase.pl |
| 18:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed |
| 18:22 |
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drojf |
that poor nozebra. no place amongst the zebras, no place in koha |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
what happens to bugs opened for unmaintained releases like 3.2? |
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cait |
they go wontfix I would think |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
tcohen: check if it is still is a bug on master, if not, mark resolved fixed and say 'it works in master' |
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cait |
^^ |
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cait |
good morning rangi |
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tcohen |
thanks rangi, and good morning! |
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jcamins |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: bug wrangling! |
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tcohen |
oh, that, thanks |
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tcohen |
was looking for nozebra / stopwords related bugs |
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jcamins |
AAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!!! |
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jcamins |
ms_access-- |
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drojf |
kill it with fire? |
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jcamins |
drojf: funny you should mention that. |
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jcamins |
We decided a migration is in our near future. |
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* jcamins |
pounds his head on the desk. |
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drojf |
migration to a new desk? |
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* cait |
puts cookies in #koha to stop the quiet |
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trea |
huzzah |
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cait |
hah! |
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drojf |
yay |
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Guest1795 |
hi peeps |
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drojf |
hi Guest1795 |
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* wizzyrea |
waves again |
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drojf |
hi thewizzyreaformerlyknownasguest |
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cait |
drojf++ |
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drojf |
for making fun of wizzyrea? i can do that more often if it leads to karma |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you switch e-mails back and forth on a single repo? |
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wizzyrea |
naw, I should set my hope laptop up differently. But I don't see why you couldn't |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you could, it'd just be a nuisance. |
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wizzyrea |
to me or to anyone else? |
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jcamins |
You. |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't much mind a little nuisance. |
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jcamins |
You could have a bash alias that set it up, but that'd be yet another thing to try and remember. |
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samuel |
hi everybody |
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cjh |
samuel: good morning :) |
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cait |
hi samuel and cjh |
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cjh |
cait: good.. evening I guess for you |
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cait |
yep |
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samuel |
good evening for me too :-) |
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* cait |
waves at dpavlin |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian :) |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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eythian |
hmm, well over a month of no rain now. |
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wizzyrea |
sunday. Sunday. |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
supposed to rain sunday-tuesday |
| 21:28 |
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eythian |
which is annoying, as I have to spend most of Sunday standing outside :) |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
oops. |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
not that it requires much prodding to not do it, but I haven't even been doing laundry. |
| 21:28 |
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eythian |
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03[…]ex.html?hpt=hp_t2 <-- you people should visit us. |
| 21:28 |
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eythian |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
supposed to start in the afternoon though I guess |
| 21:30 |
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wizzyrea |
clouds are pretty today. |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
germany and switzerland rank high too - I guess YOU shoudl come visit :) |
| 21:32 |
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eythian |
cait: already have! |
| 21:32 |
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eythian |
and we still win :) |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
again! ? :) |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -3.1°C (10:30 PM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:34 |
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cait |
@wunder Marseille |
| 21:34 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (10:00 PM CET on March 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:35 |
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eythian |
that's cold, I don't want to go to cold :) |
| 21:35 |
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trea |
schema? |
| 21:35 |
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wahanui |
schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 21:42 |
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* cait |
passes qa on bug 9239 |
| 21:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 21:43 |
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cait |
eythian: it will warm up soon! |
| 21:46 |
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* jcamins |
does a happy dance. |
| 21:49 |
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cait |
that's all? :) |
| 21:49 |
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jcamins |
cait: it's a very dramatic happy dance. |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
lol ok |
| 21:50 |
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jcamins |
I was just tap dancing on the ceiling, to the irritation of our upstairs neighbors. |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
lol |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
just remember to send that big bribe of fudge we agreed on ;) |
| 21:50 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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wizzyrea |
logs |
| 21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
logs? |
| 21:57 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 22:00 |
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indranil |
@wunder kolkata |
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huginn |
indranil: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 25.0°C (3:20 AM IST on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:03 |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-drought-declared <-- it is officially too dry here. |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
Is there a status we coudl use for bugs that are blocked by another? |
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jcamins |
cait: that's a good idea. |
| 22:04 |
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cait |
looking at 7703 right now, which is the oldest bug in the signed off queue |
| 22:04 |
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cait |
it depens on a bug that has failed qa |
| 22:07 |
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rangi |
i can make a BLOCKED status |
| 22:07 |
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jcamins |
Sounds good to me. |
| 22:08 |
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magnuse |
+1 |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
hows that? |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
+1 from me |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
let's try that |
| 22:11 |
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cait |
rangi: did you already do it? |
| 22:11 |
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rangi |
yep |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
don#t see it |
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cait |
th patch I am looking at is signed off |
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cait |
7703 |
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cait |
oh uch |
| 22:12 |
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cait |
it's 9336 sorry |
| 22:12 |
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cait |
but don't see the statusas an option there |
| 22:12 |
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wizzyrea |
refresh? |
| 22:13 |
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cait |
I did |
| 22:14 |
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cait |
do you see it on bug 9336? |
| 22:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Don't let un-holdable records prevent holdable records from being held in Intranet for multi-holds |
| 22:14 |
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* magnuse |
does not see it |
| 22:14 |
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* rangi |
does |
| 22:14 |
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rangi |
at the bottom after resolved |
| 22:14 |
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* magnuse |
sees it now |
| 22:14 |
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rangi |
try a shift-refresh just to make sure |
| 22:14 |
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magnuse |
yeah shift-refresh did it for me |
| 22:15 |
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cait |
now i see it :) |
| 22:15 |
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cait |
and used it |
| 22:16 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
yay bug 9239 passed qa |
| 22:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 22:18 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 22:18 |
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wizzyrea |
'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
confetti |
| 22:19 |
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magnuse |
woohoo |
| 22:20 |
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magnuse |
now comes the tricky bit - will jcamins push it? |
| 22:20 |
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wizzyrea |
HAHA oy. |
| 22:20 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 22:20 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 22:20 |
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jcamins |
Chances are good. |
| 22:20 |
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magnuse |
yay! ;-) |
| 22:20 |
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cjh |
oh awesome, Koha and Evergreen sharing! |
| 22:21 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that is cool! |
| 22:21 |
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wizzyrea |
hence the confetti :) |
| 22:21 |
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jcamins |
It'll be even cooler when QueryParser is split out into a separate CPAN module. |
| 22:21 |
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magnuse |
how easy will it be to share future enhencements? |
| 22:21 |
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magnuse |
ah, yeah, that will make sharing easier! |
| 22:21 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: once it's split into a separate CPAN module, easy. |
| 22:22 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 22:22 |
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magnuse |
anyone working on that? |
| 22:22 |
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* jcamins |
did it, but we're trying to get consensus on the Evergreen side about what they want to go into master, and then I'll update the code to that before publishing version 0.1. |
| 22:23 |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ bigtime! |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea, jcamins++ |
| 22:24 |
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magnuse |
oh btw jcamins, i meant to ask you: could you run some magic rm script to generate a list of bugs that have been pushed to master during your reign, as a reminder of things we might want to test during the hackfest, and maybe point out any you feel deserve extra attention? |
| 22:24 |
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magnuse |
that would be super cool |
| 22:24 |
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jcamins |
Sure. |
| 22:24 |
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magnuse |
if it's not too much work |
| 22:24 |
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jcamins |
It's not. |
| 22:24 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 22:28 |
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jcamins |
You could even do it, as practice for when you're RM for 3.16. :) |
| 22:28 |
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jcamins |
I'll just use the release notes script. |
| 22:29 |
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magnuse |
lol |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
rangi |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
splinter review |
| 22:29 |
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cait |
is fun |
| 22:30 |
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wizzyrea |
splinter review sounds like a spy movie |
| 22:30 |
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trea |
doesn't it |
| 22:30 |
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trea |
IN A WORLD.... |
| 22:30 |
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wizzyrea |
*snicker* |
| 22:30 |
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* wizzyrea |
totally heard the guy in her mind |
| 22:31 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: which script would that be? |
| 22:31 |
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* jcamins |
builds an entire release since he cleaned out all the stale release directories a few days ago. |
| 22:32 |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: is he actualy sitting next to you too? ;-) |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
:) |
| 22:32 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac0e6a825;hb=HEAD |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
ok - going to bed :) |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
magnuse: it's late for you too btw |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
:) |
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cjh |
heh |
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cait |
bye all and cya tomorrow! |
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| 22:33 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: ah, cool |
| 22:33 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, actually he is. Across the room, really. But I meant the guy who does the voice overs for movie trailers. |
| 22:34 |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: ;-) |
| 22:34 |
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wizzyrea |
why does the word movie look weird to me. |
| 22:35 |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: not sure i want to know ;-) |
| 22:35 |
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wizzyrea |
my computer just tried to spellcheck me on it!? |
| 22:35 |
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eythian |
it does that |
| 22:35 |
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eythian |
I've noticed that before too |
| 22:35 |
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wizzyrea |
wtf. |
| 22:36 |
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eythian |
I think that wherever the standard dictionaries are sourced from, they don't include that word |
| 22:36 |
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jcamins |
Movie? |
| 22:36 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
bizarre |
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wizzyrea |
movie |
| 22:37 |
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* wizzyrea |
adds it to the dictionary |
| 22:37 |
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wizzyrea |
there that's better. |
| 22:37 |
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jcamins |
I haven't built a full release in a while. |
| 22:38 |
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magnuse |
for me, the spell checker in ff used to not recognize the norwegian word for "some" - totally weird! |
| 22:39 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: good to get some practice, then? ;-) |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yeah. |
| 22:39 |
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jcamins |
I think my automatic installer is broken at the moment. |
| 22:43 |
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magnuse |
:-( |
| 22:48 |
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magnuse |
g'night/day #koha! |
| 22:50 |
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wizzyrea |
later magnuse |
| 22:55 |
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eythian |
wahanui: catalyst migration toolbox is at https://gitorious.org/+catalys[…]migration-toolbox |
| 22:55 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 22:57 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 22:57 |
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jcamins |
So it looks like it is no longer possible to automate logging into Koha. |
| 22:58 |
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eythian |
howso? |
| 22:58 |
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jcamins |
As of 3.10.0+, the submit button does not submit the form. |
| 22:58 |
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jcamins |
I guess maybe we use javascript to submit the form when the button is clicked? |
| 22:59 |
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wizzyrea |
or to check for double submits? |
| 23:00 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe? not like that would matter. |
| 23:00 |
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jcamins |
Seems like a pretty major accessibility issue. |
| 23:00 |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
| 23:02 |
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* jcamins |
will add a warning to his release script to note that installation cannot be tested on recent versions of Koha. |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
opac side too? |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
cos if so thats a major bug |
| 23:02 |
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eythian |
that does sound like a bad thing |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
rangi: I don't know, I haven't tried. |
| 23:03 |
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jcamins |
I have an empty database that I can't populate because the script won't submit. |
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| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
I would think not, because folks at Catalyst were testing the interface with a screen reader, and if the screen reader correctly interprets the regular login button, it must not be an issue. |
| 23:06 |
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wizzyrea |
yea I didn't observe julius having trouble with it |
| 23:07 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, based on how completely the submit button fails to do anything I am thinking it would be a problem for screen readers. |
| 23:07 |
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jcamins |
Actually... |
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jcamins |
I don't think the button is even showing up! |
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eythian |
jcamins: we all are the folks at catalyst :) |
| 23:08 |
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cjh |
IIRC when Julius was using forms he would always step through the elements, eventually on to the button, and then press the enter key (rather than pressing from within the input elements) |
| 23:08 |
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jcamins |
cjh: but that means he was able to locate the button. |
| 23:09 |
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cjh |
yes, and login. |
| 23:09 |
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cjh |
he tabs through the elements of the form. |
| 23:09 |
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cjh |
I have some notes from the session about problems encountered, I can double check that there wasn't anything about the login form. |
| 23:10 |
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jcamins |
So assuming my understanding of what this script does is correct, the problem is probably specific to the installer. |
| 23:10 |
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rangi |
ahh |
| 23:10 |
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rangi |
we wouldnt have tested that with the screen reader |
| 23:11 |
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jcamins |
Of course not. |
| 23:14 |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
| 23:14 |
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jcamins |
I tried to troubleshoot it. |
| 23:17 |
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jcamins |
Okay, updated release-tool.pl so it won't break the release process. |
| 23:17 |
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jcamins |
(where "it" = the fact that the webinstaller doesn't work) |
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jcamins |
So the current script in the release-tools repo exactly matches what I use. |
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