IRC log for #koha, 2012-10-31

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00:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
00:06 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (1:00 AM CET on October 31, 2012). Conditions: Partial Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
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01:27 eythian wahanui: zippy
01:27 wahanui eythian: excuse me?
01:28 rangi yowie?
01:28 eythian wahanui: yow
01:28 wahanui Being a BALD HERO is almost as FESTIVE as a TATTOOED KNOCKWURST.
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01:38 wizzyrea I... I don't even know where to begin with that.
01:39 rangi did i show you this one
01:39 rangi @quote get 221
01:39 huginn rangi: Quote #221: "I used to be sane like you, until I took a MARC data to the knee" (added by chrisc at 09:28 PM, October 23, 2012)
01:42 wizzyrea looooool
01:42 wizzyrea we really need a little screen that does nothing but randomly show quotes from the channel :P
01:42 wizzyrea i'd be giggling all day.
01:43 rangi oh yes when we build our dashboard app for the koha team here, we can make it do that
01:43 rangi @quote random
01:43 huginn rangi: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009)
01:44 wizzyrea *giggles*
01:44 bag :)
01:50 rangi @quote random
01:50 huginn rangi: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009)
01:51 wizzyrea @quote random
01:51 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
01:51 wizzyrea keke
01:51 wizzyrea 123?
01:51 wahanui 123 is probably the authid. $9 is the subfield marker.
01:51 wizzyrea ooh no
01:51 wizzyrea forget 123
01:51 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot 123
01:51 wizzyrea 123 is <reply> "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder"
01:52 wizzyrea 123?
01:52 wahanui "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder"
02:35 rangi @quote random
02:35 huginn rangi: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
02:35 wizzyrea screw aspirin - go straight for the oxycontin.
02:36 rangi heh
02:36 wizzyrea ;)
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03:02 schnydszch i'm trying out help please. I'm running this script / -v --conf=cloud-sample.conf. I'm getting this error: Uncaught exception from user code: Unable to read configuration file: cloud-sample.conf
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03:03 schnydszch what could be wrong? I have koha 3.8.4 installed in debian 6.0
03:04 eythian It's saying that it can't read the configuration file "cloud-sample.conf"
03:05 schnydszch do i have to chmod it?
03:05 schnydszch or there's something i need to change in the script?
03:05 eythian I have no idea. Does the file exist, can it read it?
03:05 eythian it's saying it can't so maybe it can't.
03:05 schnydszch yes it exist
03:06 eythian first question?
03:06 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
03:06 eythian no wahanui, first question is <reply>"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
03:06 wahanui okay, eythian.
03:06 schnydszch i want the subject cloud feature work
03:07 rangi do you use unimarc?
03:07 schnydszch marc21
03:08 rangi i suspect the config is not readable, or not in the format it expects then
03:09 schnydszch the last time i had a subject cloud i can't remember what script put it there, maybe the cloud diminished when i run cleanup_database
03:09 rangi you arent thinking of the tag cloud eh?
03:09 schnydszch -rwxrwxrwx 1 koha koha   358 Oct 31 10:54 cloud-sample.conf
03:10 schnydszch -rwxrwxrwx 1 koha koha   358 Oct 31 10:54 cloud-sample.conf    that's what i get when i ls -l it
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06:04 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
06:43 * magnuse waves
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06:51 francharb hi
06:51 wahanui what's up, francharb
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07:15 alex_a bonjour tout le monde
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07:33 julian_m hi
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07:39 Maxie2012 Hello!
07:39 Maxie2012 Can anyone out there help me with a LAMP installation in VirtualBox?
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07:42 Maxie2012 I've managed to download the package from the Turnkey Linux site and ran the package in VirtualBox, but it's prompting me to install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record and I'm not sure if I should say Yes...
07:44 Maxie2012 I installed VirtualBox on my desktop PC running Windows 7 and this being the FIRST time for me installing VirtualBox, Linux and Koha, am worried that if I say Yes, it will cause a problem with my Windows access.
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07:44 Maxie2012 Can anyone help...??
07:46 magnuse as long as you are inside virtualbox you are safe
07:46 magnuse it's asking to install grub in the *virtual* machine, not in your *real* machine
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07:47 reiveune hello
07:47 Maxie2012 oh ok...I kinda assumed that from what I managed to read in the various web sites, but just wanted to make sure...thanks!
07:49 Maxie2012 Another silly I right then to understand that once I complete the LAMP installation, each time I want to run Debian/Koha, I need to get VirtualBox up and running and Start there?
07:56 magnuse Maxie2012: correct. first run virtualbox, then start the virtual machine you want from within virtualbox
07:56 magnuse (you can have lots of virtual machines set up, if you want)
07:59 cait morning #koha
08:00 Maxie2012 So this means I could test Koha on different versions of Linux as well by creating different virtual machines...yes?
08:02 Maxie2012 The next big question for me is how do I start the installation of Koha...I'm assuming I have to do it within Debian...
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08:03 gaetan_B hello
08:04 cait Maxie2012: Debian will be the easiest way t do it
08:05 cait Maxie2012: or Ubuntu
08:05 cait and yes, you can have different machines, you can save them and you can make snapshopts you can go back to if you mess something up
08:05 cait virtual machines are good for learning
08:07 mtompset Greetings, magnuse and cait.
08:07 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B.
08:08 magnuse hiya mtompset cait et al
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08:09 haze_misi hi
08:10 haze_misi hello my name is haze, i'm a new koha user
08:10 cait hi haze
08:11 magnuse @later tell jcamins: if you could take a look at Bug 8805 that would be super cool!
08:11 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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08:11 magnuse welcome to the community haze :-)
08:12 vinz3g hola
08:13 vinz3g muy buenos días
08:14 vinz3g hello
08:14 wahanui que tal, vinz3g
08:14 vinz3g acabao install Koha
08:14 vinz3g and is working well
08:14 vinz3g I have only one problem
08:15 vinz3g and is that the only way I can connect as a client is from the server
08:15 vinz3g but not from another machine
08:15 vinz3g from another machine I can only connect as user
08:16 vinz3g on the local machine, the domain works
08:17 vinz3g but from another computer I can only connect with http://192.168.1. *
08:18 mtompset vinz3g: It's an apache configuration issue.
08:18 mtompset Your other computer, is it a windows machine?
08:18 vinz3g one
08:18 vinz3g one
08:18 vinz3g yes
08:18 mtompset It could be a DNS issue too.
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08:19 mtompset Explaining networking problems is a difficult task.
08:19 vinz3g Yes, I understand
08:20 mtompset I'm not an expert at it, but basically... you need to edit your c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file the same way you changed the /etc/hosts on your koha machine.
08:20 paul_p good morning #koha
08:21 vinz3g But that would change it on all my computers
08:21 mtompset Right...
08:21 mtompset that's the problem.
08:21 vinz3g ?
08:21 mtompset that's why it is a larger DNS issue.
08:21 vinz3g :(
08:22 mtompset your machines are all on the same network off a router.
08:22 vinz3g one
08:22 mtompset the router probably goes to your ISP.
08:22 mtompset one?
08:22 wahanui one is, like, developeed by a worldwide community of developers, the other by liblime
08:23 mtompset wahanui: forget one.
08:23 wahanui mtompset: I forgot one
08:24 mtompset vinz3g: What do you mean by one?
08:24 mtompset You really should talk to your network administrator or system administrator for help.
08:29 mtompset See, and your koha machine is INSIDE the router's network, but the internet is OUTSIDE the router's network. And your hosting provider (godaddy), doesn't know about that URL, since I can't access it from here.
08:29 vinz3g hello
08:29 wahanui what's up, vinz3g
08:29 vinz3g sorry
08:29 vinz3g was examining the configuration
08:30 vinz3g the server and client are on the same subnet
08:31 mtompset Right, but there's no DNS machine that knows it, which is why you have to manually edit the hosts file.
08:31 vinz3g but I'm also within a domain
08:31 vinz3g
08:31 vinz3g host file and edit it
08:32 mtompset Sorry, but I don't think you know what you really have, or can't describe it in a way that I can help. Sorry.
08:32 mtompset That URL doesn't exist either.
08:34 vinz3g sorry were examples
08:34 vinz3g I am within an intranet
08:34 vinz3g not be seen
08:34 mtompset Okay, but who set up the intranet?
08:34 mtompset They should be able to solve your problem.
08:35 vinz3g corporate intranet is
08:35 vinz3g translated okay?
08:35 mtompset Then you need to talk with your corporate intranet folks.
08:35 vinz3g ok
08:36 vinz3g then it is a DNS issue
08:36 mtompset The problem is the IP address needs to be recognized by a DNS entry. If the intranet has a DNS server, they'll add an entry, and it will just start to work for you.
08:36 mtompset If it doesn't, then they'll tell you to edit files (or they'll do it themselves)
08:37 mtompset Either way, they know the network. So they can help solve the problem.
08:37 vinz3g
08:37 vinz3g sorry
08:38 vinz3g
08:38 vinz3g hosts file is
08:39 mtompset Wait a second...
08:40 mtompset I got a timeout on the ip address in that file.
08:41 vinz3g
08:41 mtompset But assuming that is external, then it really is a DNS problem.
08:41 vinz3g the address is not visible on the Internet only intranet
08:42 mtompset What instructions did you follow to install it?
08:42 mtompset install Koha...
08:42 vinz3g[…]_Modules_and_Site
08:42 Maxie2012 Hi magnuse
08:43 Maxie2012 Apologies, but I'm back with more questions I'm afraid...
08:43 mtompset Hmmm... tcohen isn't around.
08:44 mtompset Yes, you definitely need to talk with your network people.
08:44 mtompset If you followed the instructions and got through the web install using lynx...
08:44 vinz3g
08:44 mtompset Then your koha issues are totally apache and networking issues, not koha issues.
08:45 vinz3g the problems seem to Koha
08:45 vinz3g but apache
08:45 vinz3g :(
08:46 mtompset Network people who run the website ( should be able to help you.
08:46 Maxie2012 I've managed to complete the LAMP installation (I think...!), and I have the link that gerundio recommended for the Koha package ([…]n_Debian_Squeeze), but what do I do next to install Koha?
08:46 Maxie2012 Can anybody out there give me a hint...?
08:46 mtompset have you added repository?
08:47 mtompset Maxie2012: have you added the repository?
08:48 * mtompset looks at Maxie2012 waiting for an answer.
08:49 mtompset What steps have you done beyond installing debian, Maxie2012?
08:49 paul_p wow... why there's no traffic in NYC airports :[…]_1291021231_n.jpg !!!!
08:49 mtompset Because of hurricane sandy.
08:50 Maxie2012 Sorry...was trying to read the Installing Koha 3.8...
08:50 paul_p mtompset = I know, just pointing this astonishing picture !
08:50 vinz3g can not access the administrator interface through the IP? enabling any port?
08:51 mtompset vinz3g... the package instructions are written for a Named Virtual Host configuration, because many people let the public search online and put holds on books.
08:52 mtompset If you are familiar with apache, you can change it to a port-based configuration, but that is something best left to network and system administrators.
08:53 * magnuse tries to clear up some misunderstandings about koha packaging in the sec4lib list
08:53 mtompset sec4lib?
08:54 magnuse sec4lib is
08:54 rangi yeah, that guy seems a bit of an uninformed fudster
08:54 magnuse yup
08:54 magnuse hope i didn't obfuscate things further
08:54 cait ah, no open archive :(
08:55 magnuse yeah, top secret, i guess :-)
08:55 vinz3g well no way, I'm a little tired. Tomorrow I hope to find the formula for log-greetings.
08:59 Maxie2012 To answer your question, I haven't done anything other than installing the LAMP stack from the TurnkeyLinux website, and I'm in the Debian environment...its showing me Debian/Linux 6.0 lamp tty1, lamp login:
08:59 Maxie2012 I managed to login using the root access
08:59 Maxie2012 but I don't know what to do next...:(
08:59 mtompset okay... the instructions tell you what to do...
09:00 vinz3g greetings and thanks!
09:00 mtompset Sorry I couldn't help more, vinz3g.
09:00 vinz3g no, is excellent
09:00 vinz3g thank you!
09:00 vinz3g :)
09:01 Maxie2012 Can anyone help...please...?
09:01 vinz3g anyway in the previous version if you could
09:01 magnuse mtompset++
09:01 vinz3g if does not work try with the other
09:01 vinz3g Now if we are
09:02 mtompset Maxie2012: What instructions do you have in front of you?
09:02 Maxie2012 I basically have a black screen with a prompt...
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09:03 mtompset The URL... don't you have the web page of instructions open in another window?
09:04 mtompset You said you had the url from gerundio.
09:04 mtompset Debian?
09:04 wahanui Debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
09:04 mtompset packages?
09:04 wahanui packages is, like, at
09:04 Maxie2012 oh sorry....yes, I have the Koha 3.8 on Debian Squeeze in front of me
09:05 Maxie2012 I used the link I mentioned earlier...[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
09:06 mtompset Yes.
09:06 mtompset The link I just triggered goes to the same wiki page.
09:06 Maxie2012 oh ok!
09:07 Maxie2012 So I need to log into root to do the installation right?
09:07 mtompset Follow the instructions there. If you aren't familiar with how to edit a file in Debian, that is not something I can explain.
09:07 mtompset I would avoid it, myself.
09:07 mtompset The instructions generally have "sudo" where you need root access.
09:08 mtompset Or implied by the command being used.
09:13 Maxie2012 Ok, I'm looking at the To use section where it recommends the Stable Version 3.8 release and it is telling me to add a squeeze main to a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list this an example of a file in Debian that you mention?
09:14 mtompset You'll notice that a link before the Stable Version section is a "handy walkthrough"
09:15 mtompset That may help make sense of some of the instructions.
09:16 * mtompset waves, "I'm off."
09:16 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), everyone.
09:17 Maxie2012 ah yes
09:21 Maxie2012 Thanks mtompset!
09:51 Oak anyone know if nicole and her family are okay?
09:55 magnuse @last seen nengard
09:55 huginn magnuse: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
09:55 magnuse @seen nengard
09:55 huginn magnuse: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 day, 16 hours, 43 minutes, and 1 second ago: <nengard> thanks oleonard
09:55 Oak hmm
09:56 Oak where is she[…]uation-zones.html in yellow, orange or pink?
09:56 Oak i mean her residence
10:01 magnuse hm, not sure
10:04 Oak jcamins_away, also in NY?
10:04 * Oak wonders who else is from NY
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10:05 slef sekjal moved, no?
10:05 magnuse Oak: lots of people ;-)
10:05 Oak :) we should pray for their safety then. prayers do work.
10:06 slef do magic spells too. They work just as well. ;)
10:06 Oak but then again. lot of thousand times worse things happening around the world and no one cares. hm. this is the world we live in.
10:07 Oak well, me go now.
10:07 slef hey it's halloween, magic seems as appropriate
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12:16 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:24 * cait-m waves
12:29 cait-m @wunder konstanz
12:29 huginn cait-m: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.3°C (1:25 PM CET on October 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
12:30 cait-m @wunder reutlingen
12:30 huginn cait-m: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 13.1°C (1:29 PM CET on October 31, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
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12:32 oleonard Hi cait-m, jcamins_1way
12:35 jcamins Much better.
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12:43 oleonard How's the weather jcamins and nengard?
12:43 * oleonard takes heart from your electronic presence
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12:46 nengard weather is fine ? but power still out at home
12:47 jcamins oleonard: the weather is fine.
12:47 jcamins Power never went out here, but the main internet connection to the server I use for IRC is under water.
12:47 jcamins A lot of water.
12:48 jcamins It took a day to reroute over the backup connection.
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12:50 tcohen morning #koha
12:50 slef jcamins: Internet can cope with a nuclear strike. Not floods.
12:51 jcamins slef: the problem was just the last leg.
12:53 * jcamins contemplates French toast.
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12:53 cait-m hi jcamins
12:54 gmcharlt good morning
12:55 cait-m hi gmcharlt
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12:57 jcamins I think I'll make French toast.
12:57 oleonard Your fighting spirit is a model for all.
12:58 cait-m lol?
12:59 cait-m hi oleonard too  :-)
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13:22 * slef tries to get MARC21 out of a Koha sandbox
13:27 slef "0 item records found and staged"
13:27 * slef reads the raw file
13:30 slef it's right, there are no item records
13:30 * slef tries again
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13:59 oleonard Tried to run on my test system to delete old patrons, got gateway time-out.
13:59 oleonard That doesn't bode well
14:23 libsysguy heh
14:24 libsysguy is there a cli script for that oleonard?
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14:33 oleonard Not as far as I can tell libsysguy
14:34 libsysguy maybe not, I always hope there is but seldom expect it lol
14:34 oleonard I tried running the SELECT SQL directly and it has been thinking for 10 minutes
14:38 libsysguy geez, what else do you have going on that box
14:38 oleonard It's my desktop VM
14:39 libsysguy well you should stop the cat videos then :p
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15:14 chris_n heya cait
15:16 cait hi #koha
15:21 cait hi chris_n :)
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16:02 jcamins paul_p: around?
16:03 paul_p jcamins yep
16:03 jcamins paul_p: how did you get error pages working under Plack?
16:03 paul_p (good morning to you)
16:03 jcamins Afternoon -- barely -- now. :)
16:03 paul_p jcamins what do you mean ?
16:04 paul_p jcamins (I think you're right about Cache not working with Plack = I made some tests with memcache, and saw no differences on SQL with and without memcache)
16:04 jcamins paul_p: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.[…]-bin/koha/invalid
16:04 jcamins That's what I get instead of a 404.
16:05 jcamins Yeah, making Koha::Cache work with Plack is on my to-do list.
16:05 paul_p http://lecannet:8080/cgi-bin/koha/blabla show me a standard 404 page (with all the menus, and the "an error has occured" in the middle
16:05 paul_p jcamins = I just used dobrica configuration on the wiki
16:06 paul_p nothing specific
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16:06 jcamins Really?
16:06 jcamins When I had drojf test, his installation didn't handle error pages either.
16:07 jcamins Are you connecting directly to Plack?
16:11 * oleonard wonders if we will reach Bug # 9000 today
16:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9000 was not found.
16:13 reiveune bye
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16:30 paul_p jcamins = have you read my mail "Koha 3.10, sign-off request & question" ?
16:30 paul_p I think/suggest we branch 3.10.x now
16:32 jcamins paul_p: that makes sense to me, provided -- as I said -- that we're pushing everything to master first.
16:33 paul_p jcamins = I know, maybe you should answer on koha-devel, so someone (chris ?) will make the branch and assign permissions
16:38 jcamins paul_p: will do.
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16:51 mib_xdrsq5 hi everybody¡
16:52 mib_xdrsq5 how can I do, changing system preferences, to dont show biblios that do not has items, at opac?
16:54 jcamins I don't think Koha does that.
16:55 talljoy what about 942$n
16:55 jcamins tcohen: don't suppose you have a passel of chronological authorities handy?
16:55 jcamins talljoy: that requires changing each record though, I think.
16:55 talljoy yes it would.
16:55 tcohen passel?
16:55 jcamins tcohen: a couple. Or a bunch.
16:56 jcamins I may have spelled it wrong.
16:56 tcohen sort of dataset for testing?
16:56 talljoy mib_xdrsq5: you would have to update each bib record with 942$n=1 and then set the syspref to supress  and reindex
16:56 mib_xdrsq5 uuu, I have to change each record? It's no practical
16:56 jcamins "Passel" is just a word for an indeterminate number of things.
16:56 jcamins tcohen: actually, let me check.
16:56 jcamins I just realized that I have a new test dataset that may include some chronological terms.
16:57 jcamins Nope. I do not.
16:57 jcamins tcohen: so, yes, a test dataset would be very helpful.
17:05 tcohen how can i provide you with the example?
17:05 tcohen a dump fo the auth_headers table?
17:06 jcamins tcohen: just a few binary MARC records would work.
17:06 jcamins However, I just created a record, and will test it.
17:06 jcamins Because actually all I need is to know that the field is being indexed correctly.
17:06 jcamins I don't have to know that my authority record makes sense.
17:06 tcohen 148$a is the field
17:07 tcohen 20th century
17:07 tcohen ?
17:09 * chris_n discovers dropped patches :(
17:09 chris_n http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ruary/011159.html
17:09 chris_n http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ruary/011160.html
17:10 jcamins Okay, record is indexed and Zebra is started.
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17:13 jcamins tcohen: your patch works perfectly. :)
17:13 tcohen our ligrarians already knew heh
17:14 tcohen glad to hear it's been tested
17:15 * jcamins wasn't concerned that it wouldn't work.
17:15 tcohen :-D
17:17 * jcamins thinks was an excellent idea.
17:17 jcamins magnuse: may I please have some NORMARC records?
17:20 tcohen jcamins,
17:21 jcamins t/db_dependent/
17:21 jcamins No more massacring your database for unit tests.
17:25 oleonard chris_n: Because they were never attached to bugs?
17:26 chris_n oleonard: probably so
17:27 chris_n not to fear, though; I'll have to do it again and so will have a chance to redeem myself :-)
17:33 oleonard We've come a long way, as a project, in making our procedures more rigorous. Good on us.
17:37 jcamins paul_p: what do you call French toast in France?
17:38 paul_p jcamins = I fear i don't know :\
17:38 jcamins Wikipedia saves the day! Pain perdu.
17:39 oleonard Lost bread?
17:39 paul_p oleonard yep, "lost bread"
17:39 paul_p because it's made with old bread, that you would trash otherwise
17:40 jcamins paul_p: are you sure it isn't called that because if you walk away without finishing it, someone else will eat it? :)
17:41 rambutan :)
17:43 * tcohen thinks the more he reads DSpace documentation, the more he love koha-comunity's people
17:43 jcamins tcohen: I've looked at DSpace several times.
17:44 jcamins I've hated it each and every time.
17:44 oleonard I can't seem to trigger Bug 8942. Anyone know how? I thought it affected how the datepicker works, but it seems to work fine.
17:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Translation process breaks javascript in
17:44 tcohen i kind of understood it, but the lack of documentation on such abstract tool that needs to be configured too much to make it work...
17:49 oleonard Oh I see it now, duh.
17:55 chris_n oleonard: rigorous_procedures++
17:57 jcamins oleonard: yes.
17:57 jcamins We hit 9000.
17:58 oleonard Oh, and the answer to that is: legacy.
17:58 jcamins tcohen: didn't you write a patch to remove zebraqueue_daemon?
17:58 tcohen yeah, but also adds  init scripts to ru nthe tamil's one
17:58 tcohen bug 8519
17:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
17:59 jcamins tcohen: hm. We should split that into two.
17:59 tcohen its actually two patches if i recall
17:59 jcamins Hm.
18:00 tcohen you could push both patches, no one will notice :-P
18:00 jcamins Would you mind if I reorganized the changes between your two patches so that we can get rid of zebraqueue posthaste?
18:00 * jcamins dials in for a conference call.
18:00 tcohen of course
18:00 tcohen (i don't mind)
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18:13 * oleonard cuts out early
18:13 rangi Morning
18:13 wahanui Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:14 oleonard See ya #koha
18:14 rangi Cya
18:20 chris_n g'morning rangi
18:22 rangi Hey there you survive the storm ok?
18:31 chris_n rangi: what we got of it; the worst for us this time was 25-35mph winds
18:31 chris_n my parents (in VA) had a vehicle totaled by a falling tree
18:31 chris_n other's had it far worse judging by the pics coming out of the north
18:33 rangi Yeah seems like a lot of damage
18:34 chris_n *others* rather
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18:36 rangi Bug 8960
18:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8960 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Typo 'Carnumber list' in
18:37 nengard ??
18:37 tcohen morning rangi
18:37 rangi Hey tcohen
18:38 jcamins @later tell magnuse If you had a couple dozen NORMARC records I could use as a sample that'd be super-keen.
18:38 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:38 rangi My stop bbiab
18:39 jcamins tcohen: I'm going to change the bug number on the zebraqueue removal patch.
18:39 tcohen ok jcamins
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18:44 tcohen jcamins, if u remove those files in a separate patch/bug #, should I rewrite patches for 8519?
18:45 jcamins tcohen: I'm splitting them.
18:45 jcamins I'll post the signed-off patch for bug 8519, as well as the signed-off patch for the other bug.
18:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
18:45 tcohen ok, let me know if you need that i do smth
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18:50 rangi back
19:03 rangi 3.10.x is born
19:03 rangi[…]refs/heads/3.10.x
19:03 jcamins rangi++
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19:11 jcamins Exciting.
19:11 jcamins Phenomenal cosmic power!
19:11 rangi heh
19:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #922 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:12 jcamins I would like a unit test for docs/history.txt.
19:13 jcamins I'm not sure exactly how to do that.
19:13 rangi there kinda is
19:13 jcamins I guess load the file and confirm that every field is filled in.
19:14 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143
19:14 huginn Bug 7143: trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
19:14 rangi that patch there is useful
19:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases <[…]7208df9e6bc77b7d4>
19:16 jcamins Interesting.
19:16 wahanui it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:17 rangi huginn is kinda random in what commits he picks up
19:17 huginn rangi: downloading the Perl source
19:25 jcamins Well, folks. This is it. The moment you've all been waiting for.
19:26 jcamins The moment when I say "wait, I have to comment on bugzilla using my web browser or manually save the file? Seriously?"
19:30 jcamins I know. If I allow git-bz to prepopulate a message and status, that will not offend me.
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20:06 nengard i think i'm mostly done with the manual for 3.10 all that's left is the did you mean feature
20:06 nengard and my brain is way too tired to figure that out right now
20:07 nengard also there are probably images that need updating too .. but i'll find those as I poke around more and more
20:07 nengard or as people tell me about them :)
20:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #922: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/922/
20:22 jenkins_koha jcamins: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases
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21:12 jcamins If anyone has a moment, an additional sign off on bug 8846 would be much appreciated.
21:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8846 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , t/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t sneakily uses database
21:16 rangi the 2nd patch?
21:16 wahanui the 2nd patch is, like, just an optional 'really/long/path/to/a/dir/somewhere' tidy
21:16 rangi[…]ment.cgi?id=13158  <-- that one?
21:17 jcamins rangi: yup.
21:17 jcamins If you apply the first patch, the test will fail.
21:17 jcamins If you apply the second, it will pass again.
21:18 rangi righto i can test that
21:22 jcamins Is there some way to tell git that unless otherwise specified, I want all branches to be pushed under new/?
21:22 rangi possibly, but i dont know it
21:23 jcamins Well, it'll give me an error if I try to push to bug_whatever directly.
21:23 jcamins I think.
21:23 jcamins And if not, I'll make you fix it.
21:26 eythian hi
21:27 jcamins Hello.
21:27 rangi yep it should defintely block yo pushing to anything other than master, 3.8.x and new/*
21:27 eythian[…]74979/police1.jpg
21:29 jcamins eythian: no wonder you have such a low crime rate in NZ! Everyone's afraid of the police officers!
21:30 jcamins Okay... the test suite isn't passing.
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21:31 jcamins Missing a budget, and an item?
21:33 jcamins Does t/db_dependent/Serials.t fail spectacularly, generally?
21:38 eythian wahanui: cookies are
21:38 wahanui ...but cookies is the solution to everything Chris ;)...
21:38 wahanui ...but cookies are the solution to everything Chris ;)...
21:38 eythian wahanui: cookies are also
21:38 wahanui okay, eythian.
21:38 wahanui OK, eythian.
21:44 rangi hmm
21:44 rangi prove t/db_dependent/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t
21:45 rangi All tests successful.
21:45 rangi Files=1, Tests=6,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr  0.00 sys +  0.30 cusr  0.02 csys =  0.35 CPU)
21:45 rangi Result: PASS
21:45 rangi before patch
21:45 jcamins Before _both_ patches?
21:45 rangi yes
21:45 jcamins Okay.
21:45 jcamins Then, yes, it would.
21:45 rangi applying first one now
21:45 jcamins I should have specified. It will work before the first patch.
21:45 jcamins Wait... it will?
21:46 rangi apparently
21:46 * jcamins thinks.
21:46 rangi fails after 1st patch
21:46 jcamins Oh! I see.
21:46 jcamins Right. I was expecting this.
21:47 rangi passes with both applied
21:47 jcamins I have a lot of spectacularly failing tests on master.
21:47 jcamins Woohoo!
21:47 jcamins HoldsQueue, for example.
21:49 jcamins Budgets.
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21:49 rangi yeah they all rely on data, and should be mocked instead i think
21:49 jcamins I installed all the sample data.
21:49 rangi or grab a copy of the db on jenkins
21:50 jcamins Oh, there was the problem.
21:50 rangi yep, they need more data that isint the sample, like budgets and circ rules
21:50 jcamins I had a budget.
21:50 jcamins Awesome.
21:50 jcamins All the Serials.t tests pass.
21:50 jcamins Unfortunately, it looks like every single SQL statement failed.
21:51 * jcamins speculates that the test isn't very good.
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21:53 jcamins Any idea why t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t plans 23 tests and runs 14?
21:54 jcamins Oh.
21:54 jcamins There should be ten label batches.
21:55 jcamins No.
21:55 jcamins Ten items.
22:01 rangi we cant return lists as rss can we?
22:01 jcamins I'm not sure.
22:01 jcamins Probably not.
22:02 rangi yeah doesnt look like it
22:04 jcamins Thanks for setting the patch back. git-bz can't set statuses backwards, so I always forget.
22:04 rangi no worries
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22:17 gml hello everyone
22:17 rangi hi gml
22:18 gml what's the default password for demo patrons? i've seen they have the same password hash in 'borrowers' table
22:18 rangi no idea
22:18 jcamins gml: they don't have any password.
22:18 jcamins It's a hash that doesn't match anything.
22:19 gml ok
22:20 gml thanks
22:23 jcamins Bug 8978 still needs to be pushed.
22:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8978 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha, Passed QA , Patron's dateexpiry is erroneously updated if dateexpiry in UnWantedField syspref
22:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #923 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8982' into 3.12-master <[…]dc63eecac191cf724> / Bug 8982 make koha-create accept --database option <[…]2d153306be10f72cb> / Bug 8707 - tags always say approved <[…]=f191782d9869582f
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22:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8978: Patron's dateexpiry erroneously updated when in UnwantedField <[…]23dc230fdd69ca2d7>
22:46 jcamins Yay! Everything that has passed QA has been pushed.
22:47 rangi sweet
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23:06 jcamins_away my $template = HTML::Template::Pro->new(filename => $intranetdir.'/scripts/misc/notifys/templates/'.%​actions->{$actiondate}->{$method}->{'template'}, die_on_bad_params => 0);
23:06 jcamins_away ^^ that means load the template in misc/notifys/templates, right?
23:07 rangi yep
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23:09 jcamins_away There is no other reference to notifys as it being anything other than a table.
23:10 rangi hmm
23:20 eythian hey, all tests passed in master with no patching needed. That hasn't happened for a while.
23:21 * eythian builds debs
23:21 rangi w00t
23:25 * eythian uploads new master packages, and goes for lunch.
23:27 rangi lunch sounds good
23:31 jcamins_away @later tell eythian a patch making the debian/changelog file on master kosher would be much appreciated. I can't figure out what the problem is.
23:31 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
23:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #923: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/923/
23:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8707 - tags always say approved
23:36 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 8982 make koha-create accept --database option
23:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8707 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tags always say approved
23:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8982 minor, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , koha-create rejects --database option
23:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #924 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #922 4 hr 26 min ago)
23:39 jcamins_away We have got to mock the daily quotes tests.
23:39 jcamins_away It goes unstable around midnight.
23:52 jcamins_away @later tell eythian Never mind about the changelog.
23:52 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
23:53 jcamins_away Why is libanyevent-http-perl required?
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