IRC log for #koha, 2012-10-30

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00:00 rangi[…]ricane-sandy.html
00:04 eythian darn it, got a little sunburnt at lunch
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00:06 ibeardslee! .. LIVE Hurricane Sandy Coverage - The Weather Channel
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00:57 jcamins_away As of right now, the weather here is fairly quiet. We're all alive and unharmed.
00:57 * jcamins_away leaves again.
00:58 rangi good to hear, some amazing photos of flooding
00:58 rangi mostly atlantic city and manhattan
00:59 eythian
01:00 rangi heh
01:23 drojf from the sound of that they are all underwater already. the design of the player isn't helping either[…]ion=cwp&ctid=1855
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01:37 Zeki Hi
01:37 wahanui hola, Zeki
01:38 Zeki Hi Wahanui,
01:39 Zeki I have a problem with "Stage MARC records for import". I cannot import any MARC records
01:39 Zeki My koha installation is new one
01:39 Zeki version 3.8.6 on Ubuntu server
01:39 Zeki everything looks fine
01:41 Zeki I can add(import) any catalog (book)from Z39.50 Search
01:42 Zeki however when I want to use "Stage MARC records for import" tools I cant import anything
01:42 Zeki Stage MARC records for import does nothing
01:42 Zeki no progress bar
01:43 Zeki so anyone can tell me what can be problem with my Koha?
01:45 Zeki any expert around ?
01:46 eythian
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01:47 rangi hey wizzyrea
01:47 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
01:47 * wizzyrea giggles
01:47 wizzyrea hi there
01:47 rangi Zeki: hmm no sorry, i haven't seen that problem before
01:48 rangi Zeki: you could try the bulkmarcimport script from the command line
01:48 Zeki yeah
01:48 eythian hi wizzyrea, slept in today?
01:49 wizzyrea hmm a little bit, but we were down in central by 10ish for an appointment :)
01:49 eythian ah right
01:49 rangi your pc just arrived
01:49 wizzyrea oooOOOooo
01:49 eythian like, literally just then
01:49 wizzyrea haha!
01:50 Zeki can I ask you a few more things,  Rangi?
01:50 rangi Zeki: misc/migration_tools/ is where it lives
01:53 Zeki thanks for that
01:54 Zeki I want to check with you about "System preferences" setting
01:54 Zeki is there any place related "Stage MARC records for import" in "System preferences" setting?
01:55 Zeki because I am very new in Koha
01:55 Zeki so Maybe I didnt do right setting
01:55 rangi only match points and that wouldnt affect the behaviour you are seeing
01:57 Zeki maybe wrong setting does not allow me to use "Stage MARC records for import" tools to import MARC records
01:57 rangi no
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02:01 Zeki I am using default setting
02:01 eythian then it should work fine. You should have a look in your logs, they may tell you what is going wrong.
02:02 Zeki While Web Installar I choose all the optional setting inculinding saple data, marc framework etc..
02:07 Zeki which part of logs
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02:09 Zeki because when I check log viewer under tools
02:09 Zeki I dont see any error related Stage MARC records for import
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02:10 Zeki so is there any other place to check logs beside "log viwer under tools?
02:11 eythian Zeki: the system logs in /var/log/koha
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02:18 Zeki Ethian,
02:19 Zeki [Tue Oct 30 10:09:52 2012] [error] [client] [Tue Oct 30 10:09:52 2012] Problem = a value of 1 has been passed to param without key at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 187., referer:[…]/tools/
02:20 Zeki is showing this error log only for today?
02:20 Zeki I tried a few times "Stage MARC records for import" tools
02:21 eythian It has a datestamp on the left of the log message, you can use that to see what date the error was generated, and hence what your log file contains.
02:21 Zeki but looks there are not any log about it
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02:22 Zeki first I check the log I found last log
02:22 Zeki then I went to tools "Stage MARC records for import" and do import
02:23 Zeki and then I check the logs
02:23 Zeki but no new line in log file
02:24 eythian OK. I'm not sure then.
02:25 Zeki look like not adding error inside log file
02:25 Zeki yeah
02:25 Zeki is there any other place i can check it
02:26 Zeki related "Stage MARC records for import"
02:26 tcohen @query solr
02:26 huginn tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , User should be able to determine the number of search results per page (OPAC)
02:26 huginn tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7174 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authentication rewriting
02:26 huginn tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7013 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, In Discussion , required format is not enforced for authorized values
02:26 eythian Zeki: not really
02:26 huginn tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer
02:26 huginn tcohen: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
02:32 Zeki Eythian, do you know any running koha demo site that I can try "Stage MARC records for import"?
02:32 Zeki becuase I found these web sites"[…]ha_Demo_Databases"
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02:33 eythian well try one of them then
02:33 Zeki I tried them but no luck
02:33 rangi are you sure your file is marcdata?
02:33 eythian what browser are you using?
02:33 Zeki same things
02:33 eythian also that, yes
02:33 Zeki cannot import
02:33 Zeki I use IE
02:33 rangi marcdump filename | less
02:33 eythian don't use IE
02:34 eythian it is a stupid and bad browser
02:34 rangi try firefox or chrome
02:34 Zeki yeah
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02:36 Brooke o/
02:37 rangi hi Brooke
02:37 Brooke howdy
02:38 * Brooke posits that maybe, just maybe, the sokdam about rain wasn't what to embroider after all...
02:39 Zeki Thank you so much  Rangi,
02:39 Brooke anyone see nengard?
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02:39 Zeki the problem related IE
02:39 Brooke @seen nengard
02:40 huginn Brooke: nengard was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <nengard> thanks oleonard
02:40 rangi Brooke: earlier, they have no power at the moment tho, so wont see them again til that is back on
02:40 Brooke harrumph
02:40 Zeki Google Chrome is fine
02:40 Zeki Stage MARC records for import is working
02:40 Zeki now
02:40 Zeki can important MARC Records
02:41 Zeki can import MARC Records
02:41 eythian Zeki: and tell your friends to not use IE.
02:42 Zeki sure
02:43 Zeki It is so strange IE browser problem
02:44 eythian It's not really, IE is not a good browser.
02:44 Zeki I thought it was related my koha setting
02:44 eythian Koha doesn't claim that it's supported in the staff client because it's too buggy to be reliable.
02:44 Zeki I didnt think IE can cause this type problem.
02:46 Zeki Thank Eythian
02:46 eythian It causes many problems.
02:47 Zeki yeah
02:47 ibeardslee two irc channels on two different servers with IE problems
02:47 Brooke it must be an IRC problem. ;)
02:48 tcohen rangi, do u remeber what release would include solr indexing (at least experimental)?
02:49 rangi 3.10
02:52 Zeki Thanks you so much for now
02:52 Zeki I need to leave and import some MARC record my koha now
02:53 Brooke good luck
02:53 Zeki :)
02:53 Zeki thanks
02:57 jcamins_away tcohen: if you use solr you can't use authorities at all.
02:57 jcamins_away Still power in Forest Hills.
02:57 Brooke hey hey, the city boy has powah!
02:57 Brooke (figured since ye were still online.)
02:57 jcamins_away Yup.
02:57 jcamins_away Well, my shell is on a server at sea level in Brooklyn.
02:58 jcamins_away Kind of a miracle it's still up.
02:58 * Brooke touches wood.
02:58 tcohen jcamins_away, hope everything goes smooth there
02:58 wizzyrea oh yes phew I was worrying about you jcamins, some crazy photos coming out of new york
02:59 Brooke have you considered the Kon Tiki?
02:59 wizzyrea and atlantic city is under water?
02:59 Brooke my home state is Trashed. Like worse than after my Prom trashed.
02:59 jcamins_away wizzyrea: yeah, so they say.
02:59 wizzyrea crikey
02:59 * jcamins_away heads to bed.
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03:02 Brooke hey oak
03:02 Oak hey!! Brooke
03:02 * Oak waves
03:04 Brooke Mr. Oak, we could use you to tie down some of the hay about here...
03:04 Oak did you read Far From the Madding Crowd?
03:04 Oak :)
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03:56 wizzyrea @later tell kf could you pass this around to your friends?[…]ria-state-student missing gal from Kansas, supposedly "went to Germany" and got lost there.
03:56 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
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05:14 vkm hello i am using 3.6.4 but hold limit is not working through setting user circulation limit by default it picks limit from system preference
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06:35 * magnuse waves
06:37 rangi heya magnuse
06:37 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
06:38 magnuse yay!
06:38 magnuse hiya rangi
06:39 * magnuse checks up on how the us is doing
06:40 rangi very messily
06:40 magnuse wow, not too good
06:40 rangi nope
06:46 cjh :(
06:49 magnuse gonna take some time to tidy up after that...
06:51 rangi yeah, quite a while
06:53 * magnuse tries to imagine the consequences of sea water in the subway system
06:53 rangi and the substations for power
06:53 magnuse yeah
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07:41 julian_m hello
07:41 wahanui hello, julian_m
07:42 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:42 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:42 magnuse @wunder boo
07:42 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
07:46 rangi @wunder nzwn
07:46 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
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07:49 reiveune hello
07:51 alex_a bonjour
07:51 rangi hi julian_m, alex_a and reiveune
07:51 alex_a hi rangi
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07:55 magnuse bonjour biblibre - cold office today?
07:55 magnuse kia ora cait!
07:56 cait hi magnuse
07:56 julian_m hello rangi, magnuse and cait
07:56 julian_m magnuse, yes very cold :)
07:57 cait @wunder marseille
07:57 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:57 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:57 magnuse @wunder Konstanz
07:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.2°C (8:55 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:57 magnuse ooh, colder than here!
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07:59 cait hi julian_m
07:59 cait and all
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08:10 gaetan_B hello
08:10 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
08:17 clrh_ hello
08:17 wahanui salut, clrh_
08:19 paul_p good morning #koha
08:20 cait hi paul_p
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09:03 vkm please let me know how to setup cronjob to rebuild index completely once in a day (at night)
09:55 magnuse go students!
09:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #919 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:56 cait go students :)
10:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT <[…]92a75d3c25e702982> / Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records <[…]05fd26ca4b8908e31> / Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date <[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co
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10:01 slef @later tell oleonard No, I don't use Mollom. :) Our last surviving drupal client lags behind our wordpress ones, but is a similar mix of, Spam rules and human moderation.
10:01 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
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10:10 vkm maxreserves in system preference means? in Hold
10:14 slef eythian: Bug 8982 for you, patch coming
10:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8982 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create rejects --database option
10:16 slef Changes submitted for bug 8982
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10:58 cait jcamins!
10:58 wahanui somebody said jcamins was RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search.
10:58 jcamins Hello.
10:58 cait jcamins: how are you doing?
10:58 jcamins My server in Brooklyn is down, but we have power in Forest Hills.
10:58 cait oh good
10:59 cait well not for the server in brooklyn, but glad you got power
11:00 gerundio jcamins,
11:00 gerundio :)
11:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #919: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/919/
11:03 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8961: Fix typo in offline circ help
11:03 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8749 - Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.*.packages
11:03 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
11:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8961 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/module​s/help/offline_circ/
11:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
11:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT
11:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8749 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.packages and ubuntu.12.04.packages
11:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8966 critical, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
11:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
11:06 magnuse unstable?!?
11:06 wahanui somebody said unstable was sid
11:06 magnuse yeah, sort of, wahanui
11:06 wahanui magnuse: i'm not following you...
11:06 magnuse good!
11:11 jcamins magnuse: possibly OCLC is down.
11:11 magnuse yeah, looks like t/db_dependent/XISBN.t is the culprit
11:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #920 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #918 1 day 15 hr ago)
11:26 * magnuse discovers t/db_dependent/lib/
11:27 cait what does it do? :)
11:28 magnuse dunno, not been changed much since 2008
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11:33 cait oh and jcamins is gone again
11:35 magnuse hiya jwagner - hanging in there?
11:36 jwagner I got off pretty lightly -- amazingly, I never lost power for more than a minute or two.  A lot of damage in this area, but the folks further north got the worst of it.
11:36 magnuse and the worst is over now?
11:37 jwagner We're still expecting a fair amount of rain and wind all day, but not nearly as bad as yesterday and last night.  Biggest concern here now is flooding.
11:37 magnuse ah yes
11:37 jwagner Some trees could still come down (and take my power), but it's less likely now.
11:37 jwagner Of course, I haven't ventured outside yet....
11:38 magnuse be careful!
11:39 jwagner It's great to be able to work from home :-) If nothing else, I don't have to try driving in this mess.
11:39 magnuse working_from_home++ :-)
11:39 jwagner I'll probably try going in tomorrow -- cabin fever sets in after a while.
11:39 magnuse hehe
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12:05 H1070 Hey koha
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12:06 H1070 does annyone knows here where i can find information to configure the mail (my mail in the opac does not work)
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12:06 jwagner jcamins, you've survived so far?
12:06 jcamins jwagner: yeah. We have power and everything.
12:07 libsysguy jcamins you're alive!
12:07 jcamins The streets are a sight, though.
12:07 libsysguy i guess you're further north
12:07 jcamins Yeah.
12:07 H1070 :Oo ny i presume
12:07 libsysguy H1070 you should just configure postfix or exim etc
12:07 jcamins And we're on high ground.
12:08 H1070 thx  i look into that :)
12:09 jcamins jwagner: is the DC transit system still functioning?
12:09 libsysguy after that is done you should set up notices: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]6/en/notices.html
12:09 jwagner I think they're keeping it shut down again today.
12:10 jwagner Probably smart -- there's flooding in some of the Metro tunnels, and a lot of the streets are full of downed trees.
12:10 jcamins Yeah.
12:10 jwagner There were some pretty bad pics from NY on the Post's web site.
12:11 jcamins NYC transit has been pretty well decimated.
12:11 jcamins We won't be getting into Manhattan at any point this week, I think.
12:11 jwagner Which side of town are you on? I forget.
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12:11 jcamins All the tunnels we would need to get in are flooded out, I think.
12:11 jcamins We're in Forest Hills, Queens.
12:12 jwagner North/east side, if I remember my geography?
12:12 jcamins Yeah.
12:12 libsysguy Queens...
12:12 jcamins We're probably in line with 100th St in Manhattan.
12:12 * libsysguy shudders
12:13 jwagner Is LaGuardia up that direction?
12:13 jcamins Whoah.
12:13 jcamins Talk about lucky.
12:13 jcamins My next door neighbors are without power.
12:13 cait ohwow
12:13 jwagner in the same building?
12:14 jcamins Next building over.
12:14 oleonard We get an early snow thanks to Sandy, but nothing is sticking yet
12:15 jcamins If you were to go from Manhattan to LGA then just follow the main highway into Queens, you would pass about three blocks away from us.
12:15 jwagner I haven't been anywhere but mid-town Manhattan for years, I forget where things are....
12:18 jcamins jwagner: we're not far from[…]&t=m&z=13&iwloc=A
12:18 jcamins Wow. That was a horrible URL.
12:19 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
12:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #920: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/920/
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12:20 oleonard New York is like Middle Earth to me. I've heard so much about it in books and movies, but I've never been there.
12:20 jcamins oleonard: hehe. You should come visit some time.
12:20 tcohen morning #koha
12:21 oleonard Sounds exciting right now jcamins, I'll just pop over.
12:22 jwagner I haven't been there in years -- is the Strand bookstore still going strong?
12:23 paul_p good morning americans from the north and from the south !
12:23 tcohen good morning paul_p
12:23 libsysguy morning paul_p
12:23 paul_p oleonard = really, you've been to Marseille but never to NY ?
12:23 paul_p tcohen libsysguy = my morning *was* not so good because still no heat in our office :(((
12:24 cait paul_p: have you seen all the big cities in france yet? and bare in mind france is a bit smaller than US :)
12:24 oleonard It's true :) And Paris, and Berlin, and Prague, and Vienna, and Venice... but not New York!
12:24 cait wow, quite a round trip through europe :)
12:24 libsysguy paul_p do you have a coat?
12:24 cait you have been to Vienna but not to Konstanz? :P
12:25 oleonard It was, sadly, many years ago now
12:25 paul_p libsysguy yep. and some underwear I usually don't wear in Marseille. So i'm fine in fact ;-)
12:26 libsysguy hehe paul_p has thermal undies
12:26 paul_p libsysguy but as i'm french, i'm complaining ;-)
12:26 * libsysguy wasn't going to say anything
12:26 * libsysguy was going to suggest a smoke and some wine
12:26 libsysguy :p
12:26 paul_p libsysguy yes, but you thought of it so loudly that I heard it :D
12:27 jcamins jwagner: yeah, Strand remains a New York institution.
12:27 paul_p libsysguy (I almost never drink alcohol, and don't smoke either)
12:27 jwagner Any bookstore that advertises 18 miles of books is MY kind of place....
12:27 libsysguy paul_p I was sure that would change after you were RM for KOha ong enough
12:28 paul_p libsysguy hehe... maybe jcamins took the ball quickly enough :D
12:28 libsysguy we'll see, you still have to make it to November
12:31 libsysguy paul_p what part of france are you in?
12:31 libsysguy my relatives from Sweden were curious
12:31 paul_p libsysguy Marseille, south -mediterranean coast
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12:31 libsysguy gotcha
12:32 libsysguy I shall pass that along ;)
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13:45 gmcharlt good morning
13:46 oleonard Hi gmcharlt
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14:08 rjune I'm trying to add an item without a MARC record or entry in LoC. My problem is record 100. As memory(and documentation) say 100 [012] are the fields I should be adding / editing, but The MARC editor won't let me add those fields. Am I missing something, or do I have to create the MARC record by hand, then import it?
14:08 cait rjune: the 100 is for the author
14:09 cait they are supposed to be linked to an authority
14:09 cait using the plugin at the end ofthe field
14:09 cait if you don't want to use authorities, you can reconfigure koha to not use them, that's descrbed in the manual I think
14:09 cait authorities?
14:09 cait manual?
14:09 wahanui manual is at
14:10 rjune cait, coincidentally, It's the author of the book I want to add.
14:10 cait yes, the system at themoment requiers you to addan authority record for the author firt
14:10 cait if you don't want to use authorities, then you can deactivate that
14:11 cait faqs?
14:11 cait faq?
14:11 wahanui faq is probably found at
14:12 libsysguy libsysguy?
14:12 wahanui rumour has it libsysguy is dealing with infinity when dealing with spansets
14:12 libsysguy aww what happened to the one that wizzyrea gave me :'(
14:12 cait libsysguy?
14:12 wahanui libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer
14:12 cait that one? :)
14:12 libsysguy yeah!!
14:13 cait :)
14:13 cait cait?
14:13 wahanui you are probably qam, not your secretary
14:13 cait um ok
14:14 cait kf?
14:14 wahanui well, kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
14:15 libsysguy heh cait is qam and kf is a holds expert
14:15 cait well one is true the other not
14:15 * libsysguy wishes I was a holds expert
14:15 libsysguy then I could solve some of the holds problems :p
14:16 cait yeah, i wish that too :)
14:16 cait for you to be a holds expert
14:16 libsysguy hehe
14:16 cait but that would be mean, you would probably go crazy sooner or later
14:16 cait it's just too much for a human midn
14:16 libsysguy I am already crazy
14:16 libsysguy but I feel the rabbit hole goes deeper with holds
14:16 cait oh alright then, go ahead
14:20 rjune adding an authority?
14:20 rjune authority?
14:20 rjune apparently the bot ignores me.
14:20 cait I am not sure I am up to explaining the use of authorities in english :)
14:20 rjune wahanui, hello?
14:20 wahanui hello are u there?
14:20 cait try faq?
14:20 rjune faq?
14:20 wahanui well, faq is found at
14:20 cait there is a point about authorities with the chapter in the manual
14:21 rjune cool. I'll read up on that.
14:21 rjune has been a while since I've been involved with libraries
14:22 cait authorities will enable some nice features in the next release
14:22 cait maybe think about it some before you make a decision
14:23 cait but it's also work to maintain them
14:23 rjune mostly been simple. because mostly has been in LoC.
14:23 cait you don't get authorities when downloading form z29.50
14:24 rjune It seems I have a book that isn't in any of the z3950 searches
14:24 cait but the fields are filled in and koha may generate some basic authority on its own
14:24 rjune then why haven't I had to deal with author records before?
14:24 rjune that is probably it then.
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14:36 bryce Are there browser recommendations for koha 3.8?
14:37 bryce Web browser that is.
14:37 oleonard Anything but Internet Explorer
14:37 bryce That's what I thought.
14:37 bryce Is this documented anywhere?
14:37 oleonard Hm, I'm not sure
14:38 oleonard It should work in IE, just not be as pretty
14:39 bryce We can't add barcodes to a label batch in IE using the copy paste method.
14:39 bryce Works in Firefox fine.
14:39 oleonard Which IE?
14:39 wahanui Which IE are we bashing today?
14:40 bryce IE8
14:40 bryce Didn't work in 7 eaither.
14:40 bryce either
14:40 jcamins The labels module doesn't work in IE<9, and possibly not IE9 either.
14:40 rjune cait, thanks again for you r help.
14:41 bryce Thanks for the info though. I'll pass it on.
14:41 oleonard Is there a bug for that jcamins?
14:41 jcamins oleonard: somewhere.
14:42 jcamins I'm pretty sure I recall chris_n indicating that he would not be fixing it.
14:42 * oleonard doesn't see it in the browser compatibility bugs list
14:43 jcamins Check the Tools module?
14:45 * oleonard gets depressed about how many bugs there are
14:51 * cait sends cookies to oleonard
15:07 magnuse rangi just showed us that we are moving in the rght direction, remember? ;-)
15:15 * oleonard moves two more bugs in the right direction
15:16 magnuse oleonard++
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15:24 * magnuse moves bug 2832 in the right direction
15:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Make alphabet localizable
15:24 oleonard magnuse++
15:24 magnuse yay!
15:26 magnuse still 38 *bugs* that need signoff (and 73 enh)
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15:44 magnuse still a few hours left to climb on the monthly scoreboard for october!
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15:52 rambutan @seen jcamins
15:52 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <jcamins> Check the Tools module?
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16:09 oleonard for the second time this week I have been sent a Word document in which someone has formatted text into columns by using the spacebar
16:09 magnuse wooho spaces++ ;-)
16:09 magnuse tables are for geeks
16:10 magnuse spaces are the new black
16:10 oleonard Makes it very hard to cut and paste >:(
16:10 cait oleonard: i feel with you
16:10 cait oleonard: what i found helpful is copying into an editor
16:10 cait and removing all the doubled up spaces with regex
16:11 cait oleonard: but I had to create html form the word things anyway, so probably not what you want to do... ah ignore me. my brain is on vacation today.
16:11 oleonard As it should be cait, it is vacation time
16:12 cait but...
16:21 rambutan oleonard: sed and awk
16:22 oleonard I'd prefer to sit and squawk :P
16:22 rambutan hehe
16:22 rambutan that's funny. you should get bonus points for that
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16:44 oleonard chris_n like proper indentation and has four exclamation points to show it!
16:44 oleonard <!-- PLEASE MAINTAIN PROPER INDENTATION!!!!  -->
16:44 cait heh
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17:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8980 - Untranslatable strings in <[…]d22224c66956c6f33> / Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox <[…]dfe302c6603614c77> / Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates <http://git.koha-co
17:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #921 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
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18:19 oleonard If anyone has access to IE for testing, it would be nice to get Bug 7687 into 3.10
18:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
18:22 cait I could try much later - have to boot into windows on the computer and working on some things right now
18:23 * oleonard apologizes for asking people to use IE even briefly
18:23 jcamins As you should!
18:25 bag I don't even think I have IE on my computer
18:25 bag I have to fire up VMs to get to it
18:25 jcamins bag: ditto.
18:27 rangi I can't even do that sorry
18:27 rangi No windows license
18:29 cait am I the outcast now for still having it? it came with the laptop....
18:30 rangi That's why I got my zareason cos it didn't hehe
18:30 jcamins cait: I may actually buy a license for Windows 8 at some point.
18:30 oleonard No cait, I'm the outcast for still using Windows every day at work
18:30 oleonard (although I suspect Windows 8 will be the last straw for me)
18:31 cait oleonard: i do that too, if it helps
18:31 cait I mean... you are not alone in your despair
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18:32 rangi Luckily we would need to ask a directors permission... It's pretty much the opposite hehe
18:33 jcamins rangi: the CEO of my company is happy to provide Windows to those who needs it, but can't abide it, personally.
18:33 jcamins s/needs/need/
18:34 rangi wizzyrea's machine arrived yesterday its Ubuntu precise I think
18:34 cait :)
18:34 cait what did she get?
18:34 jcamins Ubuntu is growing on me.
18:34 oleonard When is her first day rangi?
18:34 cait jcamins: heh
18:34 gmcharlt jcamins: it would be bad to have a heated argument with your company's CEO, methinks ;)
18:34 gmcharlt especially for you
18:34 rangi Precise makes a good desktop
18:34 jcamins I hated it at first, but once I had removed all the crap it installed, it works pretty well.
18:35 rangi Yep
18:35 jcamins Though I just can't abide Unity.
18:35 rangi Not next Monday but the one after
18:35 jcamins gmcharlt: true.
18:35 rangi I run xmonad
18:35 * gmcharlt is not a fan of the tabletification of desktop UIs
18:36 rangi Never actually used unity yet
18:36 jcamins I tried xmonad for a while.
18:37 jcamins I discovered it doesn't work so well on a laptop.
18:37 rangi Oleonard: giving her some time to acclimatise
18:37 oleonard Understandable
18:38 cait I don't know, i got used to it
18:38 cait unity I mean
18:38 cait now I always move my mouse to the right side at work only to discover that no menu comes up
18:38 jcamins cait: just wait a little longer. :P
18:41 rangi Wellylibfast today
18:41 cait have fun :)
18:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE7-8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339>
18:42 rangi Still on bus for a little bit longer
18:42 oleonard huginn: What? That isn't true.
18:42 huginn oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
18:43 oleonard So huginn *will* tell you something needs signoff, but only if you... I don't know, all I did was edit the title.
18:43 rangi Heh
18:45 rangi Ok bbl
19:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #921: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/921/
19:03 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
19:03 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
19:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8980 - Untranslatable strings in
19:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8973 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
19:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Search RSS  feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
19:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8980 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in
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20:05 * wizzyrea waves
20:05 oleonard Yay, it's wizzyrea!
20:06 wizzyrea hey oleonard - how's the storm?
20:06 oleonard You're so far away I can barely see you
20:06 wizzyrea :)
20:06 cait hey wizzyrea :)
20:06 wizzyrea hi cait!
20:06 oleonard Lots of rain and some wind here, nothing to worry about yet
20:06 cait been stalking you on twitter and facebook - looks like all is going well :)
20:06 oleonard I hear other places in Ohio have power out but not here
20:07 rangi back
20:07 cait wb :)
20:07 wizzyrea so far so good :)
20:08 oleonard How was the flight?
20:08 wizzyrea it was good - "Fast"
20:08 wizzyrea where fast = no more than 2 hours between planes
20:09 oleonard Seat-back movies?
20:10 wizzyrea oh yes
20:10 wizzyrea airnz is awesome like that
20:10 wizzyrea power at every seat
20:13 wizzyrea spud slept for about 9 of the 13 hours
20:13 bag heya wizzyrea
20:13 wahanui wizzyrea is probably a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:13 wizzyrea i slept for maybe 4ish
20:13 wizzyrea hey bag
20:13 cait 13 hours is not a long flight ;)
20:13 cait ah, but that was not the total of all, right?
20:17 wizzyrea I think ours was 16 total in the air this time
20:17 wizzyrea the last time it was longer.
20:18 talljoy o/ wizzyrea
20:18 * oleonard waves goodbye for the evening
20:20 cait wizzyrea: bit more difficult from europe to nz, but 16 is still long
20:20 wizzyrea yea, the first time we had an 8 hour layover in sfo
20:20 wizzyrea that was... long
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21:15 rangi hmm
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21:18 rangi hey jcamins .. server still out?
21:18 jcamins rangi: yeah.
21:19 jcamins We encountered a problem with our DR systems.
21:19 jcamins The servers are actually back online.
21:19 rangi ssh
21:19 jcamins Connected to the Internet via our backup connections.
21:20 rangi and you can run screen and irssi from there if you want
21:20 jcamins Thanks!
21:21 jcamins Unfortunately, having two backup connections doesn't help if you have a static route set up.
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21:22 rangi yay
21:23 jcamins_ Ah.
21:23 jcamins_ Irssi is so much nicer to use.
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21:23 cait your server in brooklyn is back up?
21:24 jcamins cait: I'm using rangi's server for IRC.
21:24 cait ah :)
21:24 jcamins The power's back, but we have static routing, which means the two redundant internet connections are only used when the primary connection is up.
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21:30 eythian hi
21:31 cait hello
21:33 eythian slef: cool, hopefully will take a gander at it today
21:36 rangi[…]OTaUYqSW9Wpw2.gif
21:40 rangi  <-- a Koha library made the finalists
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21:41 jcamins Cool!
21:42 cait and totara and the academy too :)
21:43 rangi yep
21:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #219 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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22:33 eythian
22:35 rangi thats pretty amazing
22:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #219: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/219/
22:35 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8749 - Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.*.packages
22:35 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
22:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8749 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.packages and ubuntu.12.04.packages
22:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8966 critical, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
22:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #220 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:52 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:52 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.8°C (11:50 PM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
22:52 cait brr.
22:57 rambutan -0.8°C ?? What's with that? Should be autumn there, right?  +10°C or something?
22:57 cait well can be a bit colder in autumn
22:57 cait but that's quite cold
23:00 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on October 31, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
23:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #220: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/220/
23:13 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
23:13 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT
23:13 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
23:13 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
23:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
23:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8973 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
23:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Search RSS  feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
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