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chris: you see all that talk about SMS's on nzoss? |
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nod |
School Management Sytems that is |
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chris |
nod: my brain is pretty fried, ill try to catch up tomorrow |
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Steven |
hi...anybody there? |
| 01:40 |
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Steven |
i m using Koha2.9 |
| 01:41 |
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Steven |
how come my Koha system didnt calculate overdue fine autimatically....eventhrough i have done the setting for issuing rules and there is 1 book is overdue |
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Steven |
can anybody help me |
| 01:47 |
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Steven |
anybody there |
| 01:48 |
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chilts |
sorry Steven, I can't help ... there are others around though (but remember, irc is a non-interactive messaging system, people might be away or busy) :) |
| 01:48 |
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chilts |
someone will answer if they can :) |
| 01:50 |
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Steven |
thzx |
| 01:50 |
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Steven |
you have this problem? |
| 01:52 |
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chilts |
not to my knowledge, though I do know that 2.9 is an older version of the software, there are newer versions which you might want to try |
| 01:55 |
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Steven |
i know....just tat my college is running under Windows platform |
| 02:10 |
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Steven |
anyone can guide me on fines running scripts |
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chris_n2 |
gmcharlt: sorry, my question was regarding the search url's given above |
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Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:37 |
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Amit |
morning #koha |
| 03:43 |
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masonj |
hiya amit |
| 03:43 |
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Amit |
heya mason |
| 03:44 |
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masonj |
long time no chat, how is everything over there? |
| 03:44 |
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masonj |
busy with much koha stuff? |
| 03:44 |
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Amit |
mason: yes after long time everything is fine here |
| 03:44 |
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masonj |
i have just started playing with koha3 on a debian AMD64 dual-core box |
| 03:45 |
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masonj |
you have already done this AMD64, yes? |
| 03:45 |
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masonj |
1 year ago, even? |
| 03:45 |
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Amit |
yes i have already done on 64bit OS |
| 03:46 |
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Amit |
on centos |
| 03:46 |
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masonj |
centos AMD64? |
| 03:46 |
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Amit |
no Centos 64 bit OS |
| 03:46 |
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Amit |
not on AMD64 |
| 03:46 |
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Amit |
what about koha performance with AMD64 |
| 03:48 |
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masonj |
aaah... |
| 03:48 |
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masonj |
CentOS-5 x86_64 (AMD64 and Intel EMT64) architectures. |
| 03:49 |
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masonj |
centos x86_64 = debian AMD64 |
| 03:49 |
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Amit |
Intel |
| 03:49 |
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Amit |
ok |
| 03:51 |
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masonj |
i have not started benchmarking 32bit and 64bit systems yet |
| 03:51 |
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Amit |
ok |
| 03:51 |
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masonj |
im curious to see if there are any performance improvements to 64bit koha |
| 03:52 |
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masonj |
i will get back to you with my results ;) |
| 03:54 |
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masonj |
fyi: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ |
| 03:54 |
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Amit |
k |
| 03:57 |
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richard |
hey masonj and Amit |
| 03:57 |
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masonj |
heya richard |
| 03:57 |
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richard |
how long have had koha set up on the AMD64 box? |
| 03:57 |
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masonj |
bout 2 days ;) |
| 03:58 |
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richard |
:) |
| 03:58 |
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masonj |
twas a *very* easy setup tho |
| 03:58 |
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si |
hlt has been on amd64 koha for a while |
| 03:59 |
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masonj |
i was expecting to compile the yaz/zebra stuff myself at least, but no.. |
| 03:59 |
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si |
lets you address more RAM, and they have > 4GB RAM on their servers |
| 04:01 |
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masonj |
i wanna see what the difference is between a 32bit-PAE install, and a AMD64 install |
| 04:01 |
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masonj |
performance wise... which i can actually do now :) |
| 04:03 |
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Amit |
heya richard |
| 04:04 |
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Amit |
heya si |
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brendan |
night #koha |
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brendan |
:) |
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Steven |
anybody there? |
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Steven |
nybody |
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Steven |
anybody |
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Amit |
hi steven |
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Steven |
cant help me |
| 06:12 |
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Steven |
can u? |
| 06:12 |
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Steven |
i m wondering how come my koha 2.9 didnt generate the overdue fine automatically... |
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Steven |
i m wondering how come my koha 2.9 didnt generate the overdue fine automatically... |
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Topic for #koha is now Next Community meeting 2nd Feb 2010 at 1900 UTC |
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brendan |
hi |
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chris_n |
wb #koha |
| 20:46 |
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chris |
:) |
| 20:46 |
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chris_n |
heya chris |
| 20:46 |
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chris_n |
feeling any better? |
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brendan |
heya chris |
| 20:47 |
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chris |
a bit, still pretty crappy, but getting better |
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pianohacker |
Hello again oceania |
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* chris_n |
munges through C4::Search |
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chris_n |
complaining bitterly as I go |
| 20:48 |
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pianohacker |
no other way to do it, that's a grubby module |
| 20:48 |
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chris_n |
chris: you up to a question? |
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wizzyrea |
Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers |
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* walter |
hangs out in #koha for a little |
| 20:51 |
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moodaepo |
wizzyrea++ |
| 20:51 |
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walter |
not something i do very often |
| 20:51 |
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wizzyrea |
it's a shame really |
| 20:51 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 20:51 |
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brendan |
hi walter |
| 20:51 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea++ |
| 20:51 |
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chris_n |
hi walter |
| 20:51 |
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walter |
hey brendan and everyone |
| 20:51 |
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gmcharlt |
hi walter |
| 20:51 |
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wizzyrea |
what'd I do? |
| 20:52 |
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chris_n |
@quote add <wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers |
| 20:52 |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 20:52 |
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walter |
i'm usually hanging out in #kete and #katipo, of course |
| 20:52 |
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wizzyrea |
Oh THAT |
| 20:52 |
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chris_n |
wow, sorry munin |
| 20:53 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers |
| 20:53 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #52 added. |
| 20:53 |
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chris |
chris_n: yep whats up? |
| 20:53 |
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jwagner |
So nice to have everyone back :-) |
| 20:53 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (12:46 PM PST on January 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:54 |
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chris_n |
chris: C4::Search... about line 1099 |
| 20:54 |
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chris |
yep |
| 20:54 |
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chris_n |
you submitted a patch that commented out $query =~ s/:/=/g; |
| 20:55 |
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chris_n |
this causes a bunch of links in opac-detail.pl to break |
| 20:55 |
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chris_n |
so |
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chris_n |
$query =~ s/(?<=(ti|au|pb|su|an|kw|mc)):/=/g; |
| 20:55 |
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chris_n |
appears to be a more tolerable workaround |
| 20:55 |
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chris |
that's better |
| 20:55 |
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chris |
yup |
| 20:55 |
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chris_n |
do you see any problem if I submit that change? |
| 20:56 |
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* chris_n |
thinks it is preferable to the many code changes required otherwise |
| 20:56 |
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gmcharlt |
still breaks a lot of stuff |
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| 20:56 |
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chris |
nope, that seems like a much nicer one, the original problem broke any searches that had : in them |
| 20:56 |
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chris_n |
and the query parser ought to be fixed |
| 20:56 |
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gmcharlt |
as any other ccl indexes that people may have built permalinks off of would still be broken |
| 20:56 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: but less stuff than before :-) |
| 20:56 |
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chris |
yeah, the whole C4/Search is slated for a rewrite |
| 20:57 |
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jwagner |
chris or chris_n, is this going to solve the problem of searching for a title like 3:10 to Yuma? (can't search if it has the colon in it)? |
| 20:57 |
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chris |
jwagner: it fixed that |
| 20:57 |
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chris_n |
I'm not sure I've caught all of the limit operators or not |
| 20:57 |
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jwagner |
YEAH!!!!! |
| 20:57 |
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chris |
but it broke other stuff |
| 20:57 |
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chris |
the other stuff is what we are trying to fix |
| 20:57 |
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jwagner |
Oh, well, win some/lose some.... |
| 20:58 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: do you agree that this is a less havoc-wreaking fix then the former? |
| 20:58 |
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jwagner |
But the _end result_ is going to be a fix for the 3:10 type search, right? (she said hopefully) |
| 20:58 |
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chris |
yep |
| 20:58 |
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jwagner |
to quote wizzyrea: Squeeeeeee |
| 20:58 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 20:59 |
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chris |
it was pretty hugely broken, in that anything with a : couldnt be searched on |
| 20:59 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: it is, but none of our options are particularly good |
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wizzyrea |
!!! |
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wizzyrea |
my work here is done. |
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* wizzyrea |
has passed on her memes, and now has no reason to exist |
| 20:59 |
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jwagner |
Don't worry, I'll hand them right back. |
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* gmcharlt |
waggles finger at chris, though - breaking OPAC search links, though? |
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chris_n |
then I'll submit this fix and mark the other patch as deprecated |
| 21:01 |
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chris |
cool thanks, yeah that second patch (the quick comment out) was ill advised |
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chris |
that whole query parser is just a big mess |
| 21:04 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: who's lined up to redo C4::Search? |
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chris |
no one has been crazy enough to volunteer yet |
| 21:05 |
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cait |
hi all |
| 21:05 |
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chris |
im thinking it would be better split into 2 modules |
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chris |
one being the parser, another that does the search |
| 21:05 |
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gmcharlt |
s/lined up/silly enough to be standing around so that we can dragoon them into/ |
| 21:06 |
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gmcharlt |
+ possibly a URL rewriter to handle old style search links - I suspect that as part of rewriting the parser, we'll have to constrain the syntax it accepts a bit |
| 21:07 |
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chris |
yeah i think a tighter syntax that is more consistently parsed is the win |
| 21:07 |
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* chris_n |
runs out of the room screaming |
| 21:07 |
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chris |
heh |
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imp |
:D |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:08 |
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imp |
is there a formal definition of the /language/ the parser should be able to parse? |
| 21:08 |
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chris_n |
imp: all of them :-) |
| 21:08 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, there are several - CCL itself is ill-defined |
| 21:08 |
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gmcharlt |
there's CQL |
| 21:09 |
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gmcharlt |
there's the Google-style type syntax that most people *really* want |
| 21:12 |
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* imp |
wrote a parser for a programming language at the uni |
| 21:12 |
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cait |
swp? |
| 21:12 |
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imp |
but i never wrote anything big in perl |
| 21:13 |
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chris |
sounds like imp just volunteered to me |
| 21:13 |
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chris |
:) |
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cait |
poor imp |
| 21:13 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 21:13 |
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imp |
cait: nope, "programming languages and compilers", the practical exercise |
| 21:13 |
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jwagner |
I definitely heard that too! |
| 21:13 |
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cait |
he has to learn for an exam, dont help him to avoid it |
| 21:14 |
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imp |
cait: pssst ;) |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
;) |
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imp |
:D |
| 21:14 |
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chris_n |
in opac-search.pl: exactly what information is this line supposed to convey: Availability: Copies available: Jones Library (1), Jones Library (1), |
| 21:16 |
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gmcharlt |
branch (number items not checked out, lost, or missing) - although duplication is odd |
| 21:16 |
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chris_n |
exactly |
| 21:17 |
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chris_n |
the logic is out of sync with the display |
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chris_n |
searchResults counts each item available separately regardless of if it is a duplicate copy or not |
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* chris_n |
adds another item to the fix list of C4::Search |
| 21:19 |
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imp |
just remind me next week and i'll take a look if it's something possible to do for me |
| 21:20 |
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chris |
cool |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n: |
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hdl_laptop |
again, |
| 21:22 |
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hdl_laptop |
nahuel sent fixes for the C4/Search on 3.0 |
| 21:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
bug 3584 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3584 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Set a default index to search on. |
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hdl_laptop |
But it hard codes all the ccl rather than getting it from the ccl.properties files. |
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chris |
hi pmlozeau |
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pmlozeau |
hi chris |
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hdl_laptop |
sorry... was back reading logs. |
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pmlozeau |
finally learning and understanding how irc works |
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chris |
:) |
| 21:24 |
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pmlozeau |
yep total newb |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n: maybe this kind of thing is what you want to do. |
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hdl_laptop |
http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]0163ed9f87d0ab540 |
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hdl_laptop |
But indeed, C4::Search needs serious work |
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hdl_laptop |
getting facets and process of items for status out of the getRecords would be first step |
| 21:29 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: chris I am really really concerned about C4::Search. |
| 21:29 |
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hdl_laptop |
But redesign would be really really not trivial. |
| 21:30 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: yeah, redoing it is not an option for 3.2 - we'll have to keep the spit-and-bailing-wire going |
| 21:30 |
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hdl_laptop |
I can see two modules at least. Query and Engine with submodules. |
| 21:30 |
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gmcharlt |
but I agree that it would be nice to have it be a priority for 3.4 |
| 21:31 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: I would not even scare everyone out of 3.2 with such an idea ;) |
| 21:32 |
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hdl_laptop |
I think it would be good to be able to discuss such things with more ppl... |
| 21:32 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: possible could break it down further - QueryParser, Search, Search::Zebra, Search::NoZebra (if we must ;), Search::Solr, etc. + ResultsFormatter |
| 21:32 |
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chris |
yeah |
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jwagner |
hdl_laptop, hackfest or virtual hackfest? |
| 21:33 |
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chris |
monolithic_modules-- |
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hdl_laptop |
jwagner: should be organised with some virtual rooms. |
| 21:33 |
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hdl_laptop |
Circulation - Serials - items - Search engine. |
| 21:34 |
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jwagner |
There ought to be some way to schedule regular virtual hackfests. Not everyone is going to get to NZ for Kohacon, and any regional meetings aren't going to include everyone. |
| 21:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
And planned by order of priority |
| 21:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
and complexity |
| 21:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
I forgot DBIx::Class |
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hdl_laptop |
TT2..... |
| 21:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
Well days are only 24 hours ;) |
| 21:35 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: you forgot C4::TimeMachine |
| 21:35 |
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jwagner |
and C4::CloneDeveloper |
| 21:35 |
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cait |
hdl_laptop: yes, someone should rewrite that... need more hours |
| 21:35 |
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cait |
;) |
| 21:36 |
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chris |
c4::search is rapidly moving to my top priority for 3.4 |
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hdl_laptop |
jwagner: developer is one thing, brain somtimes seems to be other one ;) |
| 21:36 |
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imp |
just get everybody on a plane and let's travel with the sun -> more hours per day ;) |
| 21:36 |
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chris |
but the good thing is it isnt contigent on any of the other work |
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chris |
ok im going to get some more sleep, try to shake off this flu |
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hdl_laptop |
Well... speaking of TimeMachine.... My inner machine is going down for some rest see you ;) |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I encourage this |
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schuster |
Owen gone yet? |
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schuster |
catch him tomorrow... |
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schuster |
@later tell owen - can you look at bug 2930? Is this something that is a template change or??? It is an enhancement, but would seem to be fairly easy. |
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schuster: The operation succeeded. |
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Topic for #koha is now Next Community meeting 2nd Feb 2010 at 1900 UTC |
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chris |
lets hope telstraclear dont bust their routes again |
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and we're back |
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i was all set to send a ranty email to the list, bout TC... looks like i wont need to now |
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masonj: at least not for the next minute or so ;-) |
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maybe somebody should put the freenode channel here into the topic too? |
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or is the irc server really unreachable, even for the ones on the same network? |
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rhcl |
For US libraries needing a Koha server, or maybe even for vendors to suggest to library clients for a server to minimize costs... |
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this might be one option... http://www.techsoup.org/stock/[…]y_name=Sun&Page=1 |
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If you can work with Solaris 10 anyway. :) |
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imp |
rhcl: the hardware sounds great :) (and i guess it's loud as hell :D) |
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rhcl |
Well, I just ordered two. I'll let you know. :) But I have a server room that's already loud. |
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imp |
ok :D |
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rhcl |
But yea, the specs are pretty decent.... 8 GB of memory, dual SCSI drives, dual Opteron CPU's, DVD... |
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rhcl |
just need to add a data disk |
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my experience is, the older sun products are loud and at the lower frequency range, the new ones are /screaming/ more or less higher ;) |
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rhcl |
Well, nothing can be as bad as the old Compaq G1's and G2's. |
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imp |
dunno, never heard one :D |
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CGI899 |
hello all, We are doing our first import into koha and want to know about how long does it take to import the file into koha? |
