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Steven |
hi anyone there? |
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Steven |
i need some help |
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nod |
Steven: dont worry about asking to ask, just ask :) |
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nod |
you may not get an answer right away but ask it anyway |
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IrmaCalyx |
hi Steven - welcome to #Koha |
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IrmaCalyx |
You need some help? |
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Steven |
yaya |
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Steven |
can anybody tell me...how come the finies2.pl script cant run for koha2.2.9? |
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Steven |
fines2.pl |
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Steven |
i cant generate the overdue fine for my library |
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Steven |
or is it the fines2.pl script cant run under koha 2.2.9....? |
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IrmaCalyx |
I remember that the fines in 2.2.9 were buggy |
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IrmaCalyx |
Might you be able to upgrade to Koha 3.0? |
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owen |
Looks like something went wrong with the first two lines of updatedatabase.pl |
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ebegin |
hi #koha! |
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richard |
hi ebegin |
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richard |
looks like telstraclear have got their act together ..... maybe |
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ebegin |
Still having some problem with the irc server...? |
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ebegin |
Hey pianohacker. What's up? :) |
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richard |
not so much the server as the isp |
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ebegin |
richard, oups... that's bad |
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richard |
well, they are having problems with a router, apparently |
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Steven |
do u all have the debug version of fines2.pl for koha 2.0? |
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Steven |
2.9 sorry |
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chris |
im afraid no one uses 2.2.9 anymore im afraid Steven .. no one here anyway |
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chris |
maybe the koha-win32 list would be a good place to ask |
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richard |
http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-win32/ |
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richard |
actually, http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-win32 might be better |
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chris |
thanks richard, beat me looking them up |
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chris_n |
g'night |
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brendan |
hi amit |
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SelfishMan |
wow, finally reconnected |
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IrmaCalyx |
Hi |
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ebegin |
Hi Amit! ;) |
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Amit |
he ebegin |
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* brendan |
loves it when something finally makes sense |
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braedon |
hmm, anyone know what could cause OPAC to not display any subjects for some(most) books, when they will display in staff client? |
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braedon |
latest git 3.0.x, (was doing it in 3.0.5 also) |
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brendan |
hmmm do you have XSLT on? |
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masonj |
yeah, thats prolly it... |
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masonj |
XSLT in the opac, no XSLT in staff |
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braedon |
na, XSLT is off |
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braedon |
subjects show in OPAC when XSLT is on |
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masonj |
screenshot? |
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masonj |
in detail.pl screen? |
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masonj |
or search.pl screen? |
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masonj |
your subject info lives in 600-699 fields, in your bibs? |
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braedon |
yip, subject info is in 650s |
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braedon |
in detail.pl |
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braedon |
well, sit works in detail.pl |
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braedon |
not in opac-detail.pl |
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braedon |
s/sit/it/ |
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braedon |
uploading screen somewhere, just a sec |
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braedon |
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7729/opac.png |
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braedon |
http://img121.imageshack.us/im[…]1/5095/staffl.png |
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braedon |
hmm, 6pm |
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braedon |
should have gone home an hour ago |
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braedon |
if anyone has any ideas on the aforementioned issue, i will be back on in half an hour or so |
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* braedon |
waves goodbye to #koha |
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ebegin |
I'm looking for a reason why my LOST status is not saved... any idea? I'm using Zebra |
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braedon |
have you checked database values vs authorised values for LOST inkohaadmin? |
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braedon |
s/inkohaadmin/in koha staff interface/ |
| 05:37 |
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ebegin |
Yeah, I checked that. |
| 05:37 |
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ebegin |
I just found why... |
| 05:38 |
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ebegin |
Koha doesn't like ALPHA values for LOST |
| 05:38 |
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ebegin |
I change that for numeric value (0, 1, 2, ...) and it now works like a charm... |
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braedon |
ahh, interesting |
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* braedon |
files that away for later troubleshooting |
| 05:42 |
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ebegin |
I used the previous system LOST values which was IN, PE, ... |
| 05:42 |
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ebegin |
Which represents the first letter of LOST word in french INTROUVABLE (Not Found), PERDU (Lost) and so on... |
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pianohacker |
ebegin: Koha does a lot of numeric comparisons with itemlost; it might even be a numeric field in the db |
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ebegin |
I think that the problem was more related to zebra having a accepting only numeric value. It's good to know. I looked a while before figuring it out... :\ |
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ebegin |
good night all... it's 1:15am overhere and I have a meeting at 6am... grrrr ;) |
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pianohacker |
good luck and good night |
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pianohacker |
vokal++ # For sharing development |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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braedon |
evening Ropuch |
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brendan |
night #koha |
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pianohacker |
good evenin' |
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Ropuch |
Hi brendan |
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Ropuch |
Hello pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
Hi Ropuch |
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kf |
good morning |
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chris |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi chris |
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kf |
feeling better? |
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SelfishMan |
Why does Katipo hate my freedom? |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf |
oh, someone is missing here |
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nahuel |
SelfishMan, why do you say that ? |
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SelfishMan |
I have about 26 hours worth of reconnect attempts to the IRC servers |
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SelfishMan |
I should say that the log only shows the last 26 hours or so |
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nahuel |
hehe I think there is nothing against you |
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SelfishMan |
THEY HATE ME I KNOW IT |
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SelfishMan |
:-P |
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nahuel |
any proofs ? |
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braedon |
logs == proofs |
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nahuel |
ahah not in France |
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nahuel |
you can falsify proofs |
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nahuel |
hmm |
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nahuel |
logs |
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braedon |
... |
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braedon |
hopefully chocolate |
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chris |
SelfishMan: its not katipo |
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chris |
its one of the big ISP's in nz |
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SelfishMan |
chris: seriously? |
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SelfishMan |
ah |
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nahuel |
chris, what about openbgp ? :) |
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chris |
that has a router that explodes |
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chris |
hopefully they have fixed it for good now |
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SelfishMan |
I even tried tunneling through multiple countries with no luck |
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chris |
its been up and down all day, but us nzers have all been fine |
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chris |
yeah it wont help if the upstream isp cant route your packets |
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SelfishMan |
meh, routing is overrated |
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chris |
underrated is the problem |
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chris |
underrated and badly done lots of the time |
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chris |
not enough peering |
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SelfishMan |
number of peers (assuming there are multiple peers) are usually less of an issue than the cost of a non-preferred route |
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chris |
well if the router between you and your upstream isp goes down |
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chris |
you are pretty much screwed |
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SelfishMan |
I think I'll just blame Cogent |
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chris |
its only due to the fact that katipo connect to their isp through the WIX |
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chris |
that let the rest of us still get to it |
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chris |
since routes to it and advertised on wix |
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chris |
s/and/are/ |
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si |
irc still down off site then? |
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si |
if it's still munted tomorrow we might take matters into our own hands |
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si |
and move the irc server to a different block |
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chris |
seems alright now |
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chris |
since about 9pm |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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chris |
hmm munin didnt come back, but it looks like the rest of the world did |
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amadan1 |
Hi Folks. |
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amadan1 |
What is the most stable version of koha that can be put on production? |
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nahuel |
3.0.5 |
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amadan1 |
Has any one put 3.05 on production yet? |
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nahuel |
all our clients :) |
| 11:05 |
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amadan1 |
which OS if i may ask |
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amadan1 |
Basically. I'm running debian lenny and looking for a production friendly koha version to run for my university |
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nahuel |
Debian is the better |
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nahuel |
:) |
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Ropuch |
Actually ubuntu and all its forks shuold be ok |
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Ropuch |
s/shuold/should |
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Ropuch |
I have production od debian, but before i push any changes/upgrades I'm tesing it locally on Linux Mint / Ubuntu |
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amadan1 |
so would you recommend 3.01, or 3.04 |
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Ropuch |
I would recommend 3.05 |
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Ropuch |
:) |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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* chris_n |
pokes munin and says "Wake up!" |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris_n |
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chris_n |
heya Ropuch |
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amadan1 |
very well then will try it and then set it up in production |
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nahuel |
it's 3.0.5 not 3.05 |
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amadan1 |
as in 3.00.05 or 3.0.5? |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20817 |
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jwagner |
No munun??? |
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kf |
no munin :( |
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jwagner |
At least the channel is back.... |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) |
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gmcharlt |
munin was alive, but apparently gave up trying to reconnect - I've kicked it |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Error: "was" is not a valid command. |
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gmcharlt |
quiet, you |
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paul_p |
hello world |
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imp |
@wunder hannover germany |
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munin |
imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 0.0�C (1:00 PM CET on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.04 in 983 hPa (Falling). |
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jwagner |
Yay! munin is back!!! |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Potomac, Maryland is -7.8�C (7:53 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). |
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gmcharlt |
@wunder 32605 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 8.9�C (8:03 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
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jwagner |
Thanks gmcharlt! |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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munin |
jwagner: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 12:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
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jwagner |
(You miss playing with the toys....) |
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gmcharlt |
nahuel: about? |
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nahuel |
too late :) |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). |
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collum |
@wunder 41011 |
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munin |
collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is -9.2�C (8:00 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1034.8 hPa (Rising). |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (8:17 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 6 PM this evening to midnight EST Saturday night... |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, canada |
| 13:28 |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -18.0�C (8:00 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -26.0�C. Windchill: -30.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
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ebegin |
Can you beleive it... it's freaking cold over here!!! |
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collum |
Yep. I just noticed it is 9.2C in Northern KY, but if feels like 9.0C |
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owen |
Hi all, glad to see we're up and running today |
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collum |
Oops forgot the - signs |
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owen |
I was going to say, collum, you've got a real sense for temperature! |
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ebegin |
collum, Witht he wind factor over here, we fell like -30C.. :\ |
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jwagner |
I still can't translate C to F, but it's pretty fricking cold here too! |
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jwagner |
At least they finally (after about two weeks) fixed the heat in my office. Sort of. It's at least putting out warmish air. |
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ebegin |
@google -30C = ?F |
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munin |
ebegin: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results. |
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collum |
jwagner: me neither. I have to use a converter. |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
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munin |
owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -10.6�C (7:57 AM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Rising). |
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ebegin |
(-30) degrees Celsius = -22 degrees Fahrenheit |
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jwagner |
Yep, that's pretty cold all right.... |
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ebegin |
Next KohaCon in Montréal... anyone? :) |
| 13:34 |
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owen |
If it's summer ebegin, I'm there! |
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ebegin |
BTW, in summer, it's ok though :) We have 30+C |
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ebegin |
:) |
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chris_n |
@google convert -30 Celsius to Fahrenheit |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: You must have a free Google web services license key in order to use this command. You can get one at <http://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/>. Once you have one, you can set it with the command "config supybot.plugins.Google.licenseKey <key>". |
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chris_n |
sorry munin :-) |
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* ebegin |
wants to introduced inLibro's new librarian, pmlozeau. |
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owen |
Welcome, pmlozeau! |
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jwagner |
Bienvenue! |
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pmlozeau |
thanks / merci ! |
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kf |
welcome pmlozeau |
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Steven |
can anybody guide me on how to debug the fines2.pl in 2.2.9? |
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chris_n |
hi pmlozeau |
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chris_n |
Steven: I'd recommend upgrading to 3.0.5 |
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chris_n |
2.2.9 is very old and basically unsupported |
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owen |
paul_p: Should all budget planning pages warn you if you do not have an active currency set up? |
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paul_p |
hi owen. You're probably right: we should warn the librarian |
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* owen |
will work on that |
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gmcharlt |
welcome pmlozeau |
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pmlozeau |
thanks everyone for the welcoming messages, still trying to figure everything I need to know about the koha community |
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jwagner |
Ain't we all :-) |
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ebegin |
lol |
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owen |
Thanks frederic for fixing the updatedatabase.pl bug |
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pmlozeau |
jwagner: yes indeed :) |
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owen |
Hi schuster |
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owen |
schuster: I think Bug 2930 is a reasonable modification to make to the template |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen |
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schuster |
Hey owen - I was a little out of it yesterday not checking to see how everyone was! I was too busy to switch to a different IRC. I have this one automatically come up in the morning along with the logs. I knew something was wrong when there were only 6 or so lines! |
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owen |
For English speakers I would probably make it ' Firstname MiddleInit "Othername" Surname' |
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owen |
With othernames in quotes |
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schuster |
owen - so that is just a basic circulation.tmpl change or circulation.pl? I'm still learning my way around this... |
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owen |
Not sure without trying it |
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schuster |
Since they "go by" Othername - might it not be better to put "Othername" first in quotes so when the librarian says - hello - looks at the screen quick and says morning jimminy when it should be jim? |
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owen |
I'm curious how the othernames field is used for non-English speakers. paul_p? ebegin? Ropuch? |
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schuster |
I'll play with it on my test server maybe later today... Since I have your attention...;) is there an easy way to change the default on the pac holds page that defaults to first available to specific copy? |
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owen |
schuster: I don't understand the question |
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schuster |
Due to holds routing and we only want to keep them at their local campus it would be helpful if specific copy was the default so they have to select the copy available at their location. |
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schuster |
This is a modification we will work on in the near future/local only holds, but I have some other development that needs to be done first! this is a stop gap. |
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ebegin |
owen, I would keep the same you suggested. I'm speaking for french speaker in North America. I'm pretty sure it's the same for European people. |
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jwagner |
schuster, your listserv message on importing with patron attributes -- I've not been able to get this to work. I download the sample spreadsheet with the attribute columns & fill them in, but they don't seem to load. How are you structuring it? |
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owen |
paul_p: Am I correct in thinking that now that we have can specify and active currency we should be outputting that currency symbol where currency amounts are input? |
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paul_p |
yes, you're right owen |
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owen |
No more hard-coded dollar signs ;) |
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paul_p |
@wunder Marseille, france |
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paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0�C (3:00 PM CET on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
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owen |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hello hello |
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chris_n |
jwagner: there are a number of anomalies with that "spreadsheet" example :-) |
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wizzyrea |
how is everybody this morning? |
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* chris_n |
did some contract development over the holidays involving patron imports |
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chris_n |
heya wizzyrea |
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jwagner |
chris_n, yeah, I'm finding that out -- off talking to schuster but I'll pick your brains too. I have two attribute fields, one of which would normally contain a comma. I tried like "STARTDATE:'January 1, 2010',TRACK:Testing" and also without the single quotes/comma in the date, but it's insisting on loading both attributes into one field. |
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jwagner |
It's gotten awfully quiet all of a sudden :-( |
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Colin |
Someone mentioned spreadsheets - they have that effect |
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jwagner |
s/spreadsheet/csv file/g |
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jwagner |
Does that help? |
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chris_n |
owen: do you find that the more you nest yui grids, there begins to be some issues with correct div placement? |
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chris_n |
jwagner: there are some basic problems with the example format |
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chris_n |
I'd have to look back, but I think some required columns are missing |
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owen |
chris_n: Yes. YUI makes promises about nesting grids that it doesn't keep. I've posted questions about it to the ydn-javascript Yahoo Group and gotten zero replies. |
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chris_n |
among a few other problmes |
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chris_n |
problems even |
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jwagner |
chris_n, I thought it was supposed to download based on the current system's table? |
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chris_n |
owen: do you have a particular fix you apply? |
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chris_n |
jwagner: I don't think it does it correctly |
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owen |
In the case I'm thinking of, I gave up :( That doesn't mean there isn't a possible solution for your specific case |
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jwagner |
chris_n, it does load the attribute data, sort of, and everything else seems to go into the proper fields. It's just combining both attribute fields into one. Maybe it's because the field data has a space in it? |
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chris_n |
jwanger: I'll have to go back and look at my emails/notes from the work I did |
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chris_n |
I'll try to do that this weekend |
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chris_n |
but the patron import tool could use some help |
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chris_n |
incidentally, I was not contracted to fix the problems on Koha's side, only create a workaround for drupal |
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chris_n |
but believe me, I'd love to fix it... now, where is that spare time ;-) |
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chris_n |
owen: it appears I can override the problem with an inline style in this case |
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* owen |
hates everything about YUI except the things that it can do that other libs can't |
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nahuel |
hehe |
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* nahuel |
hates how yui is used in koha |
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owen |
nahuel: Like what? |
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nahuel |
like koha use some old yui version |
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nahuel |
but not all yui is in koha |
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nahuel |
you can't use what you want |
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nahuel |
and the koha xhtml/css use yui css not in the right way |
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wonders if we are considering yui3 when it leaves beta? |
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owen |
nahuel: I agree that we should upgrade YUI to the latest version. I disagree that we should include all of YUI by default. |
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nahuel |
owen, we can't |
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nahuel |
i already tryied |
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owen |
What do you mean? |
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nahuel |
koha templates are not compatibles for css stuffs |
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nahuel |
we should use last version of yui |
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nahuel |
and use the yuiloader ! |
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chris_n |
yuiloader? |
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imagines a tractor with "YUI" on the side |
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owen |
nahuel: I'd like to hear more about why koha templates are not compatible with YUI css |
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nahuel |
I don't know _why_ |
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nahuel |
I just know upgrading to yui 2.8 koha doesn't work as it should |
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owen |
nahuel: Do you mean you tried using the upgraded YUI version and it broke things? |
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nahuel |
owen, yep |
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nahuel |
a lot of stuffs |
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owen |
nahuel: I had the same experience, which is why the YUI upgrade hasn't been done yet. |
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owen |
At the time I tried it I didn't have time to chase down all the problems. |
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nahuel |
I tryied to fix... but it a real big job |
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owen |
It's one of the reasons I don't like YUI |
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nahuel |
héhé |
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owen |
...even though I'm the one that picked it for use in Koha! |
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nahuel |
the bigger problem is that yui was never upgraded |
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chris_n |
sounds like a good candidate for the great 3.4 cleanup release :-) |
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nahuel |
exactly ! |
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owen |
chris_n: That's what I'm thinking too |
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nahuel |
we should not convert templates |
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nahuel |
but rewrite them |
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nahuel |
:) |
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chris_n |
I think chris has already been working on some TT conversion |
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nahuel |
we should unify all uses of libs |
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chris_n |
owen: is there a syspref for the opac news feature? |
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nahuel |
and ways to do |
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owen |
chris_n: I think news appears if you've got news, otherwise it doesn't. |
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chris_n |
ahh... tnx |
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owen |
nahuel: Perhaps you could add something to the wiki describing how you would improve our use of YUI? |
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nahuel |
yes I can, but i'm not an expert of UIs |
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owen |
Hmmm... Thinking about Bug 4078, who is going to be mad at me if the symbol always appears before the number? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4078 trivial, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Display active currency symbol on currency output and input |
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paul_p |
owen: french libraries I think ;-) (nicomo, your opinion ? is this a blocker for us ? I don't think so) |
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owen |
Is the Euro symbol commonly put after the amount? Does that vary from country to country using the Euro? |
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nicomo |
always after the amount as far as i know |
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nicomo |
in the Euro zone |
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nicomo |
But I'll compromise: if you do that bug, I'll be content to not have a $ and have a misplaced € |
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nicomo |
that's a step forward :) |
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jwagner |
I wouldn't mind if it showed, but does the recent acq work and/or this also fix another problem? When you go in to create a new vendor, the list and invoice prices always default to CAD (because it's first in the pulldown). Why not make it default to the active currency? |
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ebegin |
But the $ in canada is placed after the number ;) |
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owen |
ebegin: Really? |
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ebegin |
Yep |
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* owen |
gives up and crawls under his desk |
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nicomo |
eh eh |
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ebegin |
Actually, it would be nice to have a format function you know. '$1,500' is written '1 500 $' over here |
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ebegin |
with a space instead of the comma to separate the thousands |
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nicomo |
yeah, same here: space, no comma to separate the thousands... |
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nicomo |
because the comma is used for the decimals |
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nicomo |
10 000,50€ |
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Colin |
can we use locale settings? |
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nicomo |
++ |
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* ebegin |
agree too |
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gmcharlt |
+1 # using locales |
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owen |
How would that work? |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_brb |
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Colin |
owen: well locales give you rules for formatting monetary amounts etc. and perl can use them |
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gmcharlt |
e.g., Locale::Currency::Format |
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Colin |
I need to reread the perllocale perldoc |
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owen |
Does that help when we're talking about input fields? $ [ text input ] and [ text input ] € |
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Colin |
I think it can parse as well as output currency |
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gmcharlt |
Colin: perllocale covers a lot of useful ground, but not currency formatting - i.e., back to L::C::Format or thelike |
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Colin |
gmcharlt: Yes looking at L::C::Format now |
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gmcharlt |
I think output is easier than parsing - for input, could just use dropdown to select the appropriate currency |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., for a library that deals in both USD and CAD, $123.45 will need qualification anyway |
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owen |
In that case I'm not sure what the "active" aspect of currencies is for. |
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Colin |
Yes in input people just want digits point digits |
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jwagner |
Maybe instead of trying to position the currency symbol, just a note saying "Active currency is USD or Euro or whatever"? |
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Colin |
Yes most acq librarians are using the 3 digit codes the sign is window dressing |
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Colin |
I tweaked a lot of fao's templates to show (EUR) or (USD) as required |
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Colin |
One Acq question does anyone share my feeling that RRP is obscure and confusing as a label |
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owen |
I'm finding that when I go into the new system preferences page the logged-in-username info at the top of the screen changes from my login to "3127" |
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owen |
the sessions table shows that after clicking on the "preferences.pl" link my "id" has changed to "3127." |
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owen |
...as well as the "cardnumber" value stored by the sessions table. |
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owen |
Both were correct before opening systempreferences. |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.5�C (9:44 AM PST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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brendan |
hi cait |
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chris_n |
hey cait |
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chris_n |
&& brendan |
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brendan |
chris_n how you doing today? |
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chris_n |
gearing up for an ice storm :-( |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 4.0�C (1:02 PM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 6 PM this evening to midnight EST Saturday night... |
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cait |
hey brendan and chris_n |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (7:00 PM CET on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.20 in 989 hPa (Falling). |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -15.0�C (12:15 PM CST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -22.0�C. Pressure: 30.46 in 1031.4 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder 20817 |
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jdavidb: The current temperature in Potomac, Maryland is -3.8�C (1:23 PM EST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
and I thought it was cold here... |
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jdavidb |
It's very chilly here today. S'posed to get some snow tomorrow, but not much. (I hope.) |
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cait |
we have some, but not so much |
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cait |
makes walking to work a little adventure :) |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66047 |
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wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -6.4�C (12:46 PM CST on January 29, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
hm, they don't mention the white stuff falling from the sky :/ |
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sekjal |
Looking to submit my first script to contribs.koha.org |
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sekjal |
is there anything I should know first, or shall I just fire away? |
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owen |
Cool, sekjal, what's the script? |
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sekjal |
it reloads the extended attributes for a list of patrons from a flat file. Ed's post on the listserv reminded me I had it kicking around |
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sekjal |
hmmm, though I wonder if I should add the "add/replace" option first.... right now it depends on the user removing unwanted extended attributes from the database on their own |
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jwagner |
sekjal, where were you this morning??? I was trying to troubleshoot loading a patron file with attributes with schuster & chris_n -- I can't get it to work. Does your patch do it? |
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sekjal |
jwagner: sorry, had meetings and InfoDesk shift this morning. |
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sekjal |
but I'm here now! |
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sekjal |
my script just takes in a file with a user identifier, and then a series of extended attributes (code:attribute pairs) |
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sekjal |
we had to reload our extended attributes after migrating because I didn't check the character limit on the 'attribute' field, and some data got lost |
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jwagner |
Darn. We already do that -- that's how we're doing initial patron loads. I was trying to get the Tools, Patron Import spreadsheet to work with attributes. I've never been able to get that to work, and sites need to do regular updates (not just the initial data migration). |
| 19:16 |
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sekjal |
sorry |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
I did |
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chris |
the patron importer was written before extended attributes existed |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
jwagner: we loaded several extended attributes |
| 19:16 |
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jwagner |
In the .csv file? |
| 19:16 |
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chris |
i suspect under some cases it might not work |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
yes |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
but I dont have the file here :( |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
it worked like described on the tools page |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
I can send you an anonymized example on monday - if that still helps |
| 19:18 |
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sekjal |
I had that experience, too, during our initial migration. extended attributes got loaded. |
| 19:18 |
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jwagner |
It won't for me. I was trying variations on "STARTDATE:'January 1, 2010',TRACK:Testing" -- because the first attribute had a comma, I tried wrapping it in single quotes. Then I took out the single quotes & comma, then I change it to a string without a space. Every time it loads both attributes into the same field, not as two separate attributes. |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
we have to import keys and study as extended attribute fileds and loaded them |
| 19:18 |
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jwagner |
cait, yes, I'd love to see a sample. |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
to = two |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
ok, I ll send me an email reminder :) |
| 19:19 |
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jwagner |
I do them as separate loads during data migration, but there has to be a way to make the Tools, Patron Import work properly so sites can update their own data. |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
I deleted the file today from my usb stick :( |
| 19:20 |
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owen |
I wonder if there is a logical way to to enable item-level holds on biblio records which fit certain conditions? For instance: serials or multi-volume sets |
| 19:21 |
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owen |
We don't want to enable item-level holds across the board because we think our patrons aren't smart enough to know when to use it |
| 19:22 |
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gmcharlt |
one can envision a couple ways to do it |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
I know your problem.. we have them enabled because of serials and closed stacks, but it is a problem |
| 19:22 |
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gmcharlt |
do it by collection code |
| 19:22 |
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jwagner |
owen, we're working on a feature that isn't quite a match but might be extended in that direction -- allowing holds on multiple items for certain defined item types. |
| 19:22 |
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gmcharlt |
or based on selected values from MARC fixed fields |
| 19:22 |
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jwagner |
The theory is that people want to place a hold on both volume 1 & volume 2 of the DVD set or magazine. |
| 19:23 |
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owen |
jwagner: exactly |
| 19:23 |
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jwagner |
I can see how you could add another syspref that says "only allow item level holds for the item types defined in the first syspref" for what you want. |
| 19:23 |
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jwagner |
Sorry, no bugzilla entry on that yet, but it's about ready to go, I think. |
| 19:24 |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: I know that nekls would be interested in development like that |
| 19:24 |
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jwagner |
The original purpose was for serial issues, but it rapidly got extended to DVDs etc. |
| 19:25 |
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jwagner |
There's a syspref where you just enter the item types you want to allow. A patron can then place holds on more than one item for those, but not for anything else. |
| 19:25 |
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owen |
serial issues, encyclopedia volumes (does anyone use them anymore?) DVDs, VHS tapes |
| 19:25 |
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owen |
jwagner: So we'd need another syspref that said, "only allow item-level holds on itemtypes which accept multiple item-level holds" |
| 19:26 |
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jwagner |
Something like that. Might be an either/or on the current syspref that says allow/don't allow item types, rather than a new one. |
| 19:26 |
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jwagner |
Change the existing one from a yes/no to a pulldown with choices. |
| 19:26 |
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owen |
jwagner: does your feature allow you to choose multiple item types? |
| 19:27 |
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jwagner |
Yep. The site that's testing it has about 6-8 item types in the list at least. |
| 19:27 |
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jwagner |
You have to enter the actual itype code, not the description, but that's not a biggie. |
| 19:28 |
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owen |
That feature would solve a problem we've been living with since before we switched to Koha |
| 19:28 |
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jwagner |
Patience :-) It's coming. One problem we were just discussing today is that all of our development is now based on a version well behind head. Things would need to get rebased and updated, sigh. |
| 19:29 |
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jwagner |
(Speaking of the need for time machines to pack more time into the day....) |
| 19:29 |
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* owen |
cracks the whip |
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* jwagner |
ducks out of the way |
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chris |
jwagner: if you need help with that, i have quite a bit of experience with git doing exactly that |
| 19:31 |
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chris |
im happy to run a tutorial sometime |
| 19:32 |
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jwagner |
chris, we might take you up on that. One possibility is putting things out on our github as an interim. Still trying to figure out how best to handle it. And some of the little [expletive deleted]s are still changing & getting revised.... |
| 19:32 |
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owen |
Whip cracking? I'd go to that. |
| 19:32 |
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chris |
at work we have a git branch for every workrequest, some run for months while production (the main branch) moves ever forward (with the finished branches merged into it) |
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* jwagner |
says Bad owen. Bad. |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
often the long running topic branches need to be rebased |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
so i have learnt lots of tricks |
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* jwagner |
invites chris to visit Bethesda for a spell :-) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
as soon as the git wrangling video from LCA is online ill send a link to that too, some great tips on there |
| 19:38 |
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jwagner |
Great. |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
but the main tip (and this is for the future) |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
is branch the hell out of it :) |
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chris |
if you have lots of branches, one for each feature or big bugfix |
| 19:40 |
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jwagner |
Yes, we do that now. Every feature has its own branch. The fun comes when we try to put them together. It's AMAZING how many of them want to touch the exact same template or script. |
| 19:40 |
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jwagner |
Can you say "merge conflict"??? I thought you could :-( |
| 19:40 |
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* chris_n |
can :-\ |
| 19:40 |
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chris |
ahh, i have techniques for that too |
| 19:40 |
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jwagner |
Don't allow the site to have more than one feature? |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
there are different merge algorithms |
| 19:41 |
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jwagner |
(That's probably a non-starter, but....) |
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chris |
some work better |
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chris |
often conflicts are whitespace too |
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chris |
which is annoying |
| 19:42 |
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jwagner |
Yes, I've run into that one as well. |
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* chris_n |
thinks trailing spaces are evil |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
you can tell git to spaz at you if you have whitespace |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
ie by default it will warn, you can crank that up |
| 19:42 |
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jwagner |
Mostly I hover and make sympathetic noises while jdavidb curses and mutters. |
| 19:43 |
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chris_n |
I have a vimrc entry that strips white spaces on every save |
| 19:43 |
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* owen |
appreciates that git diff highlights those trailing spaces in loud red |
| 19:44 |
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chris |
yeah git-config |
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chris_n |
I never could get a script setup as a git hook to do that |
| 19:44 |
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chris |
has options for telling it the colour to highlight |
| 19:44 |
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chris |
core.whitespace is the value that you can set to choose what you want to be picky about |
| 19:45 |
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chris |
git apply --whitespace=error |
| 19:45 |
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chris |
makes them errors |
| 19:45 |
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chris |
which means you cant commit them |
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owen |
Speaking of git diff, I'm trying a new editor in my Windows machine today and now git diff is reporting differences that don't seem to be there, i.e. a "changed" blank line |
| 19:54 |
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chris |
windows characters |
| 19:54 |
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chris |
its probably a linefee |
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chris |
d |
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owen |
But a line I didn't touch? |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 19:55 |
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brendan |
heh - m$ charges you by the line (it's called linefee) |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
sometimes you open something in windows and it helpfully whacks windows linefeeds for ya |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
did you save? |
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chris_n |
lol brendan |
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chris |
brendan: its probably in their business model somewhere |
| 20:01 |
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* chris_n |
uses cream on windows |
| 20:01 |
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chris_n |
which leave the line terminators alone |
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* jwagner |
was just thinking that cream would be tastier on, say, cereal or hot cocoa.... |
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owen |
Ha! |
| 20:02 |
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chris |
was it a ^M ? |
| 20:03 |
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owen |
The editor wasn't entering Windows linefeeds, it was deleting trailing whitespace without being asked! |
| 20:03 |
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chris |
ahhh that would also do it :) |
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owen |
Hi pianohackr|work |
| 20:07 |
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pianohackr|work |
Hi owen |
| 20:07 |
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owen |
pianohackr|work: I assigned you a weird bug today |
| 20:07 |
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owen |
Bug 4079 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4079 critical, P5, ---, pianohackergmail.com, NEW, Opening system preferences page causes session to lose information |
| 20:08 |
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pianohackr|work |
I noticed that. Not sure how the sysprefs editor would do that, but it's worth poking at |
| 20:08 |
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gmcharlt |
pianohackr|work: my guess is not the editor itself, but the web service calls it issues are scribbling over the session |
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chris_n |
pianohackr|work: is the procedure for adding sysprefs the same as before? |
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* chris_n |
noticed one he added disappeared |
| 20:12 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris_n: No, it involves YAML tomfoolery now |
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schuster |
So I want to use the check_url.pl in the misc/cronjob folder and we have been tweaking it which I think it looks great. BUT we have a proxy filter here in the district so any URL it tries to check outside the district it gets a 500 error because the request didn't go through the filter. |
| 20:12 |
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pianohackr|work |
All that's stored in the DB is name, value and type |
| 20:13 |
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schuster |
Any suggestions using perl how to push those 856 url's at the command line through a proxy? I want to take your suggestions back to my perl person who has a few ideas... |
| 20:14 |
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chris_n |
pianohackr|work: this one disappeared after the merge of the sysprefs work |
| 20:14 |
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jwagner |
schuster, I'm vague on proxy filters, but can you use a URL prefix that says http go-thru-proxy go-to-real-address? Then you could embed the prefix in your script. |
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chris_n |
schuster: does your proxy use basic auth or ntlm or digest or __your_flavor__? |
| 20:16 |
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schuster |
chris_n sorry??? it is websense that's about all I know??? |
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wizzyrea |
schuster :/ websense makes baby wizzy's cry |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
though that's not your fault |
| 20:17 |
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* owen |
's Firefox RAM usage makes him cry |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that too |
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chris_n |
owen++ |
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chris_n |
firefox crashes here once a week routinely |
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chris_n |
schuster: is your network windows based or *nix? |
| 20:19 |
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schuster |
chris_n - Novell servers, with XP desktops |
| 20:20 |
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chris_n |
either way, you could mod the check_url.pl script to handle the auth scheme used, but it would require a bit of work |
| 20:20 |
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schuster |
hmmm I've sent this on to the perl programmer we have here to see what his suggestions are. |
| 20:21 |
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chris_n |
a quick google of websense seems to indicate that websense supports multiple authentication schemes, so it could be anything really |
| 20:22 |
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chris_n |
the easy thing would be for them to put an exception in for the domain(s)/ip(s) of the remote machines |
| 20:23 |
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schuster |
856 tags may be pointing anywhere... will consider this further. |
| 20:23 |
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chris_n |
owen: have you seen Thunder Bird's RAM usage... 8-O |
| 20:24 |
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chris_n |
schuster: in that case, an exception for the Koha server's ip might be the simplest route |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
bye all :) |
| 20:25 |
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schuster |
Yeah, I'm not sure they will go for that either... |
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| 20:27 |
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jwagner |
schuster, why not? An IP exception is the simplest solution, and it shouldn't be harmful if it's set up properly. |
| 20:28 |
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jwagner |
I ran a URL checker regularly in one of my previous jobs and we set it up with the IT security folks. The server itself was permitted to do the URL calls, and I always alerted them when I was going to run it, because the server web traffic would suddenly shoot through the roof & show up on their "potential trouble" monitors. |
| 20:31 |
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gmcharlt |
schuster: curl supports authenticating to a proxy, so one approach would be to have the link checker fire off calls to run curl |
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gmcharlt |
the LWP Perl module also can support setting a proxy |
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pianohackr|work |
owen++ |
| 20:55 |
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owen |
For finally remembering that little arrow? :) |
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schuster |
Cool!!!! I was able to get other name to pop up on the circ screen, but now I have another question... I was able to insert "othernames", with the quotes, but if they don't have a "othernames" it is showing the "" |
| 21:22 |
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schuster |
is there some trickery to not display "" or anything if there isn't an "othernames" |
| 21:26 |
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owen |
<!-- TMPL_IF NAME="othernames" -->"<!--TMPL_VAR NAME="othernames" -->"<!-- /TMPL_IF --> |
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schuster |
oh, I new owen would have an answer! giddy... |
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schuster |
schuster owes OWEN!!! oh that was cool... I really feel like I can make a difference!!! This is what open source is all about... |
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owen |
Careful schuster: That's exactly how I got started ;) |
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schuster |
taking notes so that I can do this again for 3.2 and share it with everyone.... that means next step learn git.... yikes. |
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schuster |
I'm on such an odd version of Koha I don't want to commit it yet. |
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schuster |
owen has kids...;) |
| 21:46 |
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schuster |
next week - work on sorting things that are not sorted! giddy with excitement! |
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pianohackr|work |
watch out, developers |
| 21:47 |
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pianohackr|work |
we've got a _librarian_ in town |
| 21:47 |
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schuster |
little green behind the ears on the programming thing, but learning... |
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sekjal |
Koha: feel the rush! |
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schuster |
ok the rush to go home is on HAPPY FRIDAY! |
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| 22:23 |
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chris_n |
anyone have a cms recommendation? Drupal, Joomla, foo? |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea |
acquisition by ptfs delayed til mid feb. |
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wizzyrea |
fyi |
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* chris_n |
says "hmmmm...." |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: wordpress, but I'm partial |
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wizzyrea |
CMS of the year, no less. |
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chris_n |
I'll check it out |
| 22:25 |
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wizzyrea |
what do you want to do? |
| 22:25 |
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wizzyrea |
or, what's your project |
| 22:25 |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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chris_n |
I'm looking a some FOSS CRM software |
| 22:26 |
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chris_n |
taking a look at CiviCRM atm |
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chris_n |
but it's written in PHP... yuk! |
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wizzyrea |
ohhh I wanted to use this for the NEKLS member directory |
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chris_n |
but I don't think it integrates with wordpress |
| 22:28 |
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wizzyrea |
yea it may not |
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chris_n |
drupal and joomla |
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chris_n |
we are ultimatily headed for the Koali thing, but looking for an intermediate solution during the interm |
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wizzyrea |
koali... what is it? |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: Kuali Student? |
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wizzyrea |
Oh oh with the U |
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wizzyrea |
Ahhhhh... looks very useful for colleges/uni's |
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brendan |
wizzyrea -> acquisition by ptfs delayed til mid feb. |
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wizzyrea |
yea, saw that. :( :( :( |
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brendan |
is that printed somewhere? or you heard that from someone |
| 22:33 |
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wizzyrea |
"you'll get LEK and you'll like it" |
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moodaepo |
e |
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wizzyrea |
and on that note |
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wizzyrea |
http://icanhascheezburger.file[…]-is-on-laptop.jpg |
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rhcl_brb |
drupal drupal drupal |
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rhcl_brb |
joomla makes you twist your mouth in funny ways when you look at things that just aren't quite right and you can't quite figure out why. |
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