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dcook |
Argh... that feeling when you bump into the same problem but the last time was long enough ago that you forget how to fix it.. |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
Phew or maybe I do remember. Huzzah. |
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davidnind |
@later tell caroline The manual is building again, so I think I have solved the issue |
| 05:39 |
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huginn |
davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:02 |
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Joubu |
caroline: commit 8202f95ad7001a5046f9f40e6322406b253ba3ed "Bug 21038: Reserves should be holds" - "canceled" (18 instances in the templates) is changed to "cancelled" (51 instances). |
| 06:37 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Reserves should be holds |
| 06:53 |
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marcelr |
o/ |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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| 08:55 |
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hagud |
good morning, anybody has experieence setting up z39 or SRU for authorities, it is easy set up for biblio, but I can't see how to set up for authority database, any idea? |
| 09:31 |
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| 09:35 |
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cait |
hello #koha :) |
| 09:46 |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
| 09:47 |
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cait |
hello |
| 09:47 |
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davidnind |
hagud: my understanding is that you set them up inexactly the same place and way (Administration > Additional parameters > Z39.50/SRU servers), but change the record type to Authority |
| 09:51 |
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hagud |
no, no... I mean set up koha as z39 server, when I do that biblios database is available to be searched, but not authorities... |
| 09:51 |
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hagud |
in fact I don't care if configure z39 or sru |
| 09:51 |
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| 09:55 |
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cait |
I think they are set up similarly, probably different database names? |
| 09:59 |
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davidnind |
thanks cait!**hagud: sorry, I don't know how to do that |
| 10:08 |
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AnkeB |
Hi! As I understand, the sort order in the OPAC is Year (008) and then biblionumber (ASC). This is not optimal as then, within the year the older entries appear before the more recent ones. Is there a way to configure the 2nd sorting level so the sorting of the biblionumber is descending? |
| 10:10 |
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hagud |
yes they have different database names, but authorities is not published.. I will check koha-conf.xml again, thanks anyway |
| 10:15 |
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davidnind |
AnkeB: I think you can determine the OPAC results sort order using system preferences OPACdefaultSortField and OPACdefaultSortOrder |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
AnkeB: I had been looking into it a while ago for a library, but I didn't figure it out, even with the option to change the code |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
it might be some Zebra internal default we use there |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
dcook: might be the person we need to ask |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
davidnind: we had discussed this some days ago - you can configure the first sort criteria, but the second appears hardcoded on biblionumber asc |
| 10:26 |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
| 10:26 |
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tcohen |
happy friday everyone |
| 10:28 |
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tcohen |
marcelr: there's still 29 for April, right? |
| 10:29 |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen : not sure what you mean :) |
| 10:30 |
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marcelr |
29 days probably |
| 10:30 |
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marcelr |
yes March is much longer than February |
| 10:31 |
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marcelr |
in February we normally have the lowest new bugs |
| 10:31 |
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cait |
oh? |
| 10:31 |
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tcohen |
writing an endpoint is a feature on its own. Not writting another one is not incomplete work. Especially if you're doing full CRUD for authorities |
| 10:32 |
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marcelr |
how much hours/minutes would you need for adding the public one btw ? |
| 10:33 |
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tcohen |
I guess the same it would take you? |
| 10:33 |
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ashimema |
Me thinks he's missed some context to this discussion |
| 10:33 |
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marcelr |
hahaha |
| 10:34 |
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marcelr |
you know that i am very reasonable |
| 10:34 |
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tcohen |
marcelr failed QA on a bug that implements GET /authorities |
| 10:34 |
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tcohen |
because we don't provide a /public version of it |
| 10:34 |
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marcelr |
did you read my last comment carefully? |
| 10:34 |
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tcohen |
which is fair and we could probably do |
| 10:34 |
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marcelr |
if you express some commitment, i might just pass qa |
| 10:35 |
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tcohen |
that's extortion for slavery |
| 10:35 |
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tcohen |
haha |
| 10:36 |
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marcelr |
i though we stopped with that some time ago |
| 10:37 |
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marcelr |
open a new report and cc me |
| 10:37 |
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tcohen |
interesting, see you next session |
| 10:41 |
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cait |
do you need a mediator or is this resolved now? I am confused |
| 10:42 |
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tcohen |
I'm not sure how to deal with rogue QA, we don't have a procedure for that |
| 10:42 |
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tcohen |
I'll file the bug he's asking |
| 10:42 |
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cait |
I don't think a public route should be mandatory |
| 10:42 |
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cait |
we need to move forward and if the feature itself works I am ok with that |
| 10:43 |
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cait |
but filing the bug makes sense, it's good to track and link things together |
| 10:43 |
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tcohen |
we've been funded to implement full CRUD for biblios and items |
| 10:43 |
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tcohen |
and authorities |
| 10:44 |
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tcohen |
if it is easy to implement the public route I'll be more than happy to do it |
| 10:44 |
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tcohen |
but cannot schedule to do it right now |
| 10:44 |
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tcohen |
because we need to provide the product we've been asked for timely |
| 10:44 |
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cait |
a separate bug seems perfect then |
| 10:44 |
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cait |
and make sure it appears in the tree |
| 10:45 |
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cait |
(tree = hierarchy of bugs) |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
agreed |
| 10:48 |
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tcohen |
thanks |
| 10:48 |
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tcohen |
just to clarify, I'd be more than happy to implement, but I don't like the precedent |
| 10:49 |
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tcohen |
failing an endpoint because it would be cool to have another one |
| 10:49 |
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marcelr |
no thats not my intention, you know that |
| 10:49 |
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tcohen |
I'm not entirely sure |
| 10:49 |
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marcelr |
it is about consistency |
| 10:49 |
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marcelr |
i look at biblio record |
| 10:50 |
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marcelr |
but we should not make this bigger than it is |
| 10:51 |
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marcelr |
i dont like the term rogue QA btw |
| 10:51 |
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cait |
so I think we agree that it doesn't need to be done on this bug, we can move forward with it, but we make sure that the public route is logged in a bug for some next step? |
| 10:51 |
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Joubu |
it has been decided to implement only what we need (when it was related to the REST API) |
| 10:51 |
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tcohen |
there's a thin line between asking for consistency and more devs, in this case |
| 10:51 |
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marcelr |
it is very dangerous to assume motives to other people |
| 10:52 |
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tcohen |
ok, thanks everyone, I think it got clarified |
| 10:52 |
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cait |
I think it's part of QA to look for inconsistencies - i think the least we need to do is note and document, sometimes also fix, it really depends |
| 10:53 |
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cait |
it's good to have this kind of discussion in general |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
you could suggest a gruop hack on adding api's at hackfest marcelr 😜 |
| 10:58 |
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* tcohen |
likes |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
I'd love to see more of them exist.. but I'm also of the opinion that it's not really possible to block a new one that someone adds just because they don't add the corresponding other parts of CRUD or Public |
| 10:59 |
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tcohen |
we could even have an inconsistency checking task force, that would find them all and file bugs |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
sometimes the GET is easy, but adding the PUT/POST or Public is a hole other ballgame |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
I love that idea |
| 10:59 |
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tcohen |
marcelr: have you signed for Marseille? |
| 11:00 |
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tcohen |
we need to share some pints |
| 11:00 |
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* ashimema |
is currently trying to understand bug 33028 |
| 11:00 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, thibaud.guillot, Needs Signoff , The decimal separator 'comma' and its consequences on the calculation of fines (crons) |
| 11:01 |
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marcelr |
have to go, see you later |
| 11:01 |
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ashimema |
lol |
| 11:08 |
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AnkeB |
somewhat belatedly: davidnind thanks for pointing me to the parameters for the 1st sorting level, and cait, for the 2nd sorting level is there a possibility to file an enhancement request so this can be made configurable in an upcoming Koha version? At least the biblionumber sorting should be descending instead of ascending. |
| 11:09 |
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tcohen |
hagud: around? |
| 11:36 |
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ashimema |
Joubu, any chance you could give bug 33028 a glance for QA. |
| 11:36 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, thibaud.guillot, Signed Off , The decimal separator 'comma' and its consequences on the calculation of fines (crons) |
| 11:37 |
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ashimema |
I think you're a little closer to circ rules than me so hopefully will spot if I've done something stupid.. |
| 11:37 |
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ashimema |
I'm not 100% on that last patch.. I wondered if we need those rules at all or whether they should actually just not exist |
| 11:39 |
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oleonard |
o/ |
| 11:55 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: not today, but I will try next week! |
| 11:55 |
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ashimema |
cheers |
| 11:58 |
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AnkeB |
Fyi: Filed https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33125 re 2nd sorting level. |
| 11:58 |
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huginn |
Bug 33125: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , 2nd sorting level of titles in results lists should be configurable |
| 12:25 |
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| 12:33 |
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oleonard |
Updated with new screenshots and examples of tabs and breadcrumbs using the new WRAPPER syntax: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nterface_patterns |
| 12:34 |
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ashimema |
Ho! |
| 12:34 |
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ashimema |
I had no idea that page existed |
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| 12:36 |
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ashimema |
we should deffo merge https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Style_Guide with it |
| 12:36 |
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oleonard |
( •̩̩̩́ _ •̩̩̩̀) |
| 12:36 |
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ashimema |
or maybe use one as a drafting area |
| 12:36 |
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ashimema |
then once agree migrate |
| 12:36 |
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ashimema |
to the other |
| 12:36 |
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cait |
sorry AnkeB, got pulled away, actually not really here today |
| 12:36 |
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cait |
i was looking for the bug earlier and got distracted, let me try again |
| 12:37 |
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AnkeB |
np cait :-) it's rather a minor issue, and perhaps even only relevant for Zebra installations...? |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
ther eis one for having a tie breaker in elasticsearch i just found: |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
bug 23875 |
| 12:38 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23875 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Elasticsearch - When sorting by score we should provide a tiebreaker |
| 12:40 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: The interface patterns page is about ready to celebrate it's 11th birthday! |
| 12:41 |
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cait |
we hsould get it a cake :) |
| 12:41 |
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cait |
AnkeB: i am not finding the old bug - maybe it was jus ta discussion on another bug that I remember, but I see you filed one and htat's good :) |
| 12:42 |
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oleonard |
I hope you had a nice birthday cait, speaking of birthdays :) |
| 12:43 |
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AnkeB |
cait, i searched for an existing bug intensely to avoid cluttering bugzilla with a duplicate. perhaps you recall our recent discussion here in the chat? |
| 12:43 |
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cait |
I did, thank you :) |
| 12:43 |
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cait |
and treated me with a day off for a long weekend too :) |
| 12:44 |
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cait |
AnkeB: yes I do - it's goo dot have that bug, if we turn up another later, we can still deduplicate |
| 12:45 |
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AnkeB |
btw cait: any news re the sandboxes? |
| 12:46 |
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cait |
i think they should be ok - last i heard, but asking here is the right place :) |
| 12:46 |
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cait |
ashimema and Joubu have been on it |
| 12:49 |
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AnkeB |
cait i can see mine from last week has disappeared on ptfs-e, so i'll try and create a new one. i'll report back here :-) |
| 13:12 |
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AnkeB |
cait, ashimea, Joubu: sandbox creation was smooth, test settings and record creation without any problems. but: surprisingly now in my newly created ptfs sandbox the bug isn't present from the beginning, even before i had a chance to apply the patch! Has the patch miraculously applied itself? what does this mean for the bug status? should i try a different sandbox, e.g. biblibre? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 13:12 |
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AnkeB |
(the bug was 30162) |
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ashimema |
that's odd |
| 13:23 |
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ashimema |
☹️ |
| 13:30 |
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cait |
maybe something old got stuck? |
| 13:44 |
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AnkeB |
if the others' sandboxes are also up to date and debugged, i'll try it there next week; not enough time today. wish you all a good weekend! |
| 13:58 |
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caroline |
davidnind++ |
| 14:05 |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline |
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oleonard |
davidnind++ # don't need a specific reason |
| 14:05 |
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caroline |
hi oleonard! |
| 14:10 |
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caroline |
aude++ |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
😄 |
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AnkeB |
exit |
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magnuse |
davidnind++ |
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| 14:39 |
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cait |
have we ifgured out how often the pootle download files are updated? |
| 14:44 |
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magnuse |
not me |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
nope |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
i've been trtying to get hold of bernardo for weeks |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
for other reasons |
| 14:49 |
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cait |
I'll try to email |
| 16:58 |
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tcohen |
hola |
| 17:01 |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
| 17:13 |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
| 18:01 |
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hammat_ |
Hi everyone, I'm working with a plugin that needs to use the background_jobs table. The problem I'm having is that only job types defined in Koha/BackgroundJob.pm are recognized and executed by background_jobs_worker.pl. I wonder if it is possible to add a new background_job type from a plugin? |
| 18:15 |
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tcohen |
hammat_: that's exactly how this is defined |
| 18:16 |
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tcohen |
https://git.koha-community.org[…]dJob.pm#L396-L404 |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
PedroAmorim[m]: do you know if pagination headers from teh ERM api are used? |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
git grep add_pagination_header |
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tcohen |
Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Packages/EBSCO.pm: $c->add_pagination_headers( |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Resources/EBSCO.pm: $c->add_pagination_headers( |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Titles/EBSCO.pm: $c->add_pagination_headers( |
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hammat_ |
Tohen: Thanks for the clarification |
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cait |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
cait the patch didn't change at all right? I can sign it off right now since I already tested it? |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
yes, it should be identical |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
i used hte one still on my local branch, but without any changes |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
and thx :) |
| 20:48 |
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caroline |
cait++ perfect, I signed off |
