Time  Nick       Message
20:48 caroline   cait++ perfect, I signed off
20:48 cait       and thx :)
20:48 cait       i used hte one still on my local branch, but without any changes
20:48 cait       yes, it should be identical
20:46 caroline   cait the patch didn't change at all right? I can sign it off right now since I already tested it?
20:44 cait       caroline++
19:34 caroline   [off] a little friday fun (or saturday fun if you live in the future) https://genrandom.com/cats/
18:34 hammat_    Tohen: Thanks for the clarification
18:24 tcohen     Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Titles/EBSCO.pm:        $c->add_pagination_headers(
18:24 tcohen     Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Resources/EBSCO.pm:        $c->add_pagination_headers(
18:24 tcohen     Koha/REST/V1/ERM/EHoldings/Packages/EBSCO.pm:        $c->add_pagination_headers(
18:24 tcohen     git grep add_pagination_header
18:24 tcohen     PedroAmorim[m]: do you know if pagination headers from teh ERM api are used?
18:16 tcohen     https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/Koha/BackgroundJob.pm#L396-L404
18:15 tcohen     hammat_: that's exactly how this is defined
18:01 hammat_    Hi everyone, I'm working with a plugin that needs to use the background_jobs table. The problem I'm having is that only job types defined in Koha/BackgroundJob.pm are recognized and executed by background_jobs_worker.pl. I wonder if it is possible to add a new background_job type from a plugin?
17:13 tcohen     hi oleonard
17:01 oleonard   Hi tcohen
16:58 tcohen     hola
14:49 cait       I'll try to email
14:44 ashimema   for other reasons
14:44 ashimema   i've been trtying to get hold of bernardo for weeks
14:44 ashimema   nope
14:44 magnuse    not me
14:39 cait       have we ifgured out how often the pootle download files are updated?
14:22 magnuse    davidnind++
14:11 AnkeB      exit
14:10 ashimema   😄
14:10 caroline   aude++
14:05 caroline   hi oleonard!
14:05 oleonard   davidnind++ # don't need a specific reason
14:05 oleonard   Hi caroline
13:58 caroline   davidnind++
13:44 AnkeB      if the others' sandboxes are also up to date and debugged, i'll try it there next week; not enough time today. wish you all a good weekend!
13:30 cait       maybe something old got stuck?
13:23 ashimema   ☹️
13:23 ashimema   that's odd
13:12 AnkeB      (the bug was 30162)
13:12 AnkeB      cait, ashimea, Joubu: sandbox creation was smooth, test settings and record creation without any problems. but: surprisingly now in my newly created ptfs sandbox the bug isn't present from the beginning, even before i had a chance to apply the patch! Has the patch miraculously applied itself? what does this mean for the bug status? should i try a different sandbox, e.g. biblibre? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:49 AnkeB      cait i can see mine from last week has disappeared on ptfs-e, so i'll try and create a new one. i'll report back here :-)
12:46 cait       ashimema and Joubu have been on it
12:46 cait       i think they should be ok - last i heard, but asking here is the right place :)
12:45 AnkeB      btw cait: any news re the sandboxes?
12:44 cait       AnkeB: yes I do - it's goo dot have that bug, if we turn up another later, we can still deduplicate
12:43 cait       and treated me with a day off for a long weekend too :)
12:43 cait       I did, thank you :)
12:43 AnkeB      cait, i searched for an existing bug intensely to avoid cluttering bugzilla with a duplicate. perhaps you recall our recent discussion here in the chat?
12:42 oleonard   I hope you had a nice birthday cait, speaking of birthdays :)
12:41 cait       AnkeB: i am not finding the old bug - maybe it was jus ta discussion on another bug that I remember, but I see you filed one and htat's good :)
12:41 cait       we hsould get it a cake :)
12:40 oleonard   ashimema: The interface patterns page is about ready to celebrate it's 11th birthday!
12:38 huginn     04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23875 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Elasticsearch - When sorting by score we should provide a tiebreaker
12:38 cait       bug 23875
12:38 cait       ther eis one for having a tie breaker in elasticsearch i just found:
12:37 AnkeB      np cait :-) it's rather a minor issue, and perhaps even only relevant for Zebra installations...?
12:36 cait       i was looking for the bug earlier and got distracted, let me try again
12:36 cait       sorry AnkeB, got pulled away, actually not really here today
12:36 ashimema   to the other
12:36 ashimema   then once agree migrate
12:36 ashimema   or maybe use one as a drafting area
12:36 oleonard   ( •̩̩̩́ _ •̩̩̩̀)
12:36 ashimema   we should deffo merge https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Style_Guide with it
12:34 ashimema   I had no idea that page existed
12:34 ashimema   Ho!
12:33 oleonard   Updated with new screenshots and examples of tabs and breadcrumbs using the new WRAPPER syntax: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns
11:58 huginn     04Bug 33125: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , 2nd sorting level of titles in results lists should be configurable
11:58 AnkeB      Fyi: Filed https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33125 re 2nd sorting level.
11:55 ashimema   cheers
11:55 Joubu      ashimema: not today, but I will try next week!
11:39 oleonard   o/
11:37 ashimema   I'm not 100% on that last patch.. I wondered if we need those rules at all or whether they should actually just not exist
11:37 ashimema   I think you're a little closer to circ rules than me so hopefully will spot if I've done something stupid..
11:36 huginn     04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, thibaud.guillot, Signed Off , The decimal separator 'comma' and its consequences on the calculation of fines (crons)
11:36 ashimema   Joubu, any chance you could give bug 33028 a glance for QA.
11:09 tcohen     hagud: around?
11:08 AnkeB      somewhat belatedly: davidnind thanks for pointing me to the parameters for the 1st sorting level, and cait, for the 2nd sorting level is there a possibility to file an enhancement request so this can be made configurable in an upcoming Koha version? At least the biblionumber sorting should be descending instead of ascending.
11:01 ashimema   lol
11:01 marcelr    have to go, see you later
11:00 huginn     04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, thibaud.guillot, Needs Signoff , The decimal separator 'comma' and its consequences on the calculation of fines (crons)
11:00 * ashimema is currently trying to understand bug 33028
11:00 tcohen     we need to share some pints
10:59 tcohen     marcelr: have you signed for Marseille?
10:59 ashimema   I love that idea
10:59 ashimema   sometimes the GET is easy, but adding the PUT/POST or Public is a hole other ballgame
10:59 tcohen     we could even have an inconsistency checking task force, that would find them all and file bugs
10:58 ashimema   I'd love to see more of them exist.. but I'm also of the opinion that it's not really possible to block a new one that someone adds just because they don't add the corresponding other parts of CRUD or Public
10:58 * tcohen   likes
10:58 ashimema   you could suggest a gruop hack on adding api's at hackfest marcelr 😜
10:53 cait       it's good to have this kind of discussion in general
10:52 cait       I think it's part of QA to look for inconsistencies - i think the least we need to do is note and document, sometimes also fix, it really depends
10:52 tcohen     ok, thanks everyone, I think it got clarified
10:51 marcelr    it is very dangerous to assume motives to other people
10:51 tcohen     there's a thin line between asking for consistency and more devs, in this case
10:51 Joubu      it has been decided to implement only what we need (when it was related to the REST API)
10:51 cait       so I think we agree that it doesn't need to be done on this bug, we can move forward with it, but we make sure that the public route is logged in a bug for some next step?
10:51 marcelr    i dont like the term rogue QA btw
10:50 marcelr    but we should not make this bigger than it is
10:49 marcelr    i look at biblio record
10:49 marcelr    it is about consistency
10:49 tcohen     I'm not entirely sure
10:49 marcelr    no thats not my intention, you know that
10:49 tcohen     failing an endpoint because it would be cool to have another one
10:48 tcohen     just to clarify, I'd be more than happy to implement, but I don't like the precedent
10:48 tcohen     thanks
10:47 ashimema   agreed
10:45 cait       (tree = hierarchy of bugs)
10:44 cait       and make sure it appears in the tree
10:44 cait       a separate bug seems perfect then
10:44 tcohen     because we need to provide the product we've been asked for timely
10:44 tcohen     but cannot schedule to do it right now
10:44 tcohen     if it is easy to implement the public route I'll be more than happy to do it
10:43 tcohen     and authorities
10:43 tcohen     we've been funded to implement full CRUD for biblios and items
10:43 cait       but filing the bug makes sense, it's good to track and link things together
10:42 cait       we need to move forward and if the feature itself works I am ok with that
10:42 cait       I don't think a public route should be mandatory
10:42 tcohen     I'll file the bug he's asking
10:42 tcohen     I'm not sure how to deal with rogue QA, we don't have a procedure for that
10:41 cait       do you need a mediator or is this resolved now? I am confused
10:37 tcohen     interesting, see you next session
10:37 marcelr    open a new report and cc me
10:36 marcelr    i though we stopped with that some time ago
10:35 tcohen     haha
10:35 tcohen     that's extortion for slavery
10:34 marcelr    if you express some commitment, i might just pass qa
10:34 tcohen     which is fair and we could probably do
10:34 marcelr    did you read my last comment carefully?
10:34 tcohen     because we don't provide a /public version of it
10:34 tcohen     marcelr failed QA on a bug that implements GET /authorities
10:34 marcelr    you know that i am very reasonable
10:33 marcelr    hahaha
10:33 ashimema   Me thinks he's missed some context to this discussion
10:33 tcohen     I guess the same it would take you?
10:32 marcelr    how much hours/minutes would you need for adding the public one btw ?
10:31 tcohen     writing an endpoint is a feature on its own. Not writting another one is not incomplete work. Especially if you're doing full CRUD for authorities
10:31 cait       oh?
10:31 marcelr    in February we normally have the lowest new bugs
10:30 marcelr    yes March is much longer than February
10:30 marcelr    29 days probably
10:29 marcelr    hi tcohen : not sure what you mean :)
10:28 tcohen     marcelr: there's still 29 for April, right?
10:26 tcohen     happy friday everyone
10:26 tcohen     hola #koha o/
10:24 cait       davidnind: we had discussed this some days ago - you can configure the first sort criteria, but the second appears hardcoded on biblionumber asc
10:18 cait       dcook: might be the person we need to ask
10:18 cait       it might be some Zebra internal default we use there
10:18 cait       AnkeB: I had been looking into it a while ago for a library, but I didn't figure it out, even with the option to change the code
10:15 davidnind  AnkeB: I think you can determine the OPAC results sort order using system preferences OPACdefaultSortField and OPACdefaultSortOrder
10:10 hagud      yes they have different database names, but authorities is not published.. I will check koha-conf.xml again, thanks anyway
10:08 AnkeB      Hi! As I understand, the sort order in the OPAC is Year (008) and then biblionumber (ASC). This is not optimal as then, within the year the older entries appear before the more recent ones. Is there a way to configure the 2nd sorting level so the sorting of the biblionumber is descending?
09:59 davidnind  thanks cait!**hagud: sorry, I don't know how to do that
09:55 cait       I think they are set up similarly, probably different database names?
09:51 hagud      in fact I don't care if configure z39 or sru
09:51 hagud      no, no... I mean set up koha as z39 server,  when I do that biblios database is available to be searched, but not authorities...
09:47 davidnind  hagud: my understanding is that you set them up inexactly the same place and way (Administration > Additional parameters > Z39.50/SRU servers), but change the record type to Authority
09:47 cait       hello
09:46 marcelr    hi cait
09:35 cait       hello #koha :)
08:55 hagud      good morning, anybody has experieence setting up z39 or SRU for authorities, it is easy set up for biblio, but I can't see how to set up for authority database, any idea?
07:54 alex_      Bonjour
07:02 marcelr    o/
06:37 huginn     04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Reserves should be holds
06:37 Joubu      caroline: commit 8202f95ad7001a5046f9f40e6322406b253ba3ed "Bug 21038: Reserves should be holds" - "canceled" (18 instances in the templates) is changed to "cancelled" (51 instances).
05:39 huginn     davidnind: The operation succeeded.
05:39 davidnind  @later tell caroline The manual is building again, so I think I have solved the issue
00:04 dcook      Phew or maybe I do remember. Huzzah.
00:04 dcook      Argh... that feeling when you bump into the same problem but the last time was long enough ago that you forget how to fix it..