IRC log for #koha, 2022-11-18

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01:36 tuxayo Ok, gitlab included in the libre version linking ticketts
01:38 tuxayo oh, it's only for related tickets. Having "blocks" and "is blocked by" is not in the libre version. No interest for us then...
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05:40 Joubu oleonard: I am hearing you are willing to write test plans for me?
05:50 Joubu @later tell tcohen 32104 - did you recreate the problem?
05:50 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
05:58 Joubu @later tell ashimema Is Jacob one of your workmate? If so, can you have a look at 18247 and teach them how to signoff? :)
05:58 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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06:38 fridolin
06:39 Joubu - what's this emoji?
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06:42 fridolin an owl ? (o - o)
06:42 fridolin XD
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06:47 ashimema Lol
06:53 ashimema Doh, think that was a sandbox issue at my end . But I will get him to be more vigilant in checking the patch was attached
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06:57 AMAR Hello All,
07:03 Joubu how do librarians search for patron?
07:03 Joubu This is awful:
07:04 Joubu 1. Search for "edn" in the "Search patrons" header search box
07:04 Joubu 2. Autocomplete show 1 patron
07:04 Joubu => You cannot select it using down key or tab, so press enter
07:05 Joubu 3. Main patron search is displayed, form on the left is fill in with "edn"
07:05 Joubu 4. Blink, the DT is displayed, empty, "loading"
07:05 Joubu 5. Blink, there is only 1 result, we (finally!) redirect to the patron detail page
07:05 Joubu any suggestions to improve that?
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07:08 marcelr hi #koha
07:09 Joubu marcelr: you missed my question!
07:09 marcelr which question?
07:09 marcelr bug ?
07:09 Joubu it is not auth related, not sure it will interest you
07:10 Joubu[…]2-11-18#i_2462845
07:10 marcelr i find selection of patrons with autocomplete also a bit tedious
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07:13 Joubu looks like we have a bug, this is working ok (at least pressing the down key let you select items, not empty the input field!)
07:16 marcelr harder to resolve probably when using external code
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07:32 reiveune hello
07:41 marcelr o/
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07:48 alex_ Bonjour
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08:15 Joubu marcelr: when a bug report is marked as pushed to master, but you still want RM to have attention on it, the "additional_work_needed" keyword should be used. You don't need to adjust the status
08:22 marcelr ok
09:06 Joubu bug 32260, bug 32261
09:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
09:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Insufficient user feedback when selecting patron in autocomplete
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11:34 tcohen hola #koha o/
11:34 oleonard Hi tcohen
11:49 oleonard Joubu, no other clues about how to reproduce Bug 32260? So far I've had no luck
11:49 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
11:53 Joubu oleonard: type faster?
11:53 Joubu you should hit enter before you see the autocomplete result
11:54 tcohen am I online?
11:55 Joubu hum wifi down here
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12:20 oleonard Joubu++
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12:44 tcohen Joubu++
12:44 tcohen oleonard++
12:44 tcohen heh
12:58 Joubu tcohen: can you push 32010 please?
12:58 Joubu Am I the only one not happy when Jenkins is not happy?
12:59 Joubu there are some serious failures there
12:59 Joubu Koha/REST/Plugin/Auth/IdP.t line 126
12:59 Joubu got: '500'
12:59 Joubu expected: '200'
12:59 Joubu that's... embarassing..
13:01 tcohen can you contact any QA team member to take a look?
13:02 Joubu qa_team?
13:03 tcohen I'll take a look at the IdP issue
13:03 Joubu there is a follow-up on bug 32154
13:03 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32154 normal, P5 - low, ---, pjamorim91, Pushed to master , Missing primary key on erm_user_roles table
13:03 tcohen I don't feel embarrassed, but I care about
13:04 Joubu the GetSoonestRenewDate ones are scary as well
13:04 Joubu not having the CI green for weeks (months?) is embarrassing..
13:06 tcohen we've had a selenium test failure for months, and I didn't care much about, and also didn't got any help fixing it
13:06 tcohen the others are really recent
13:07 tcohen fixing the failures is a good friday plan, though
13:10 tcohen lots of follow-up patches on already pushed bugs is confusing for me
13:12 Joubu even if there is the keyword?
13:12 Joubu Do you prefer dozen of "22.11 candidates" staying in NSO?
13:13 tcohen This follow-ups don't go through QA, it is a hard call
13:13 tcohen I see where you're coming from, not arguing, I'm not sure what's best
13:14 tcohen for example, marcel's I'd like more eyes there
13:14 tcohen and now I need to take care of pointing people there for review, or take responsability for pushing things that are wrong...
13:14 tcohen in a contentious subject (opinion, taste, etc)
13:15 tcohen I'm not saying it is wrong, it might be the best patch ever
13:15 tcohen just saying I cannot count on QA there
13:15 Joubu ok, moving it
13:15 tcohen no need to move
13:16 tcohen I'm looking at the addition... keyword now
13:16 tcohen but next ones...
13:17 Joubu too late
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13:43 Joubu 32268
13:43 Joubu bug 32268
13:43 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32268 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/XSLT.t is failing randomly
13:50 Joubu tcohen: 32212 - in my understanding you need to push the related yarn.lock when package.json is modified
14:33 Joubu bug 32269
14:33 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t is failing randomly
14:33 tcohen Joubu: should we fix it with better default in TestBuilder?
14:34 Joubu I don't know
14:34 Joubu you are supposed to set the values you need when you write your tests
14:35 Joubu I should have put this patch on its own bug report however
14:52 ashimema anyone here using an M2 mac and ktd yet?
14:54 Joubu paulderscheid[m]: ?
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14:59 ashimema Hi Jacob and Matt, welcome to IRC
15:00 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Hi everyone
15:01 caroline Welcome!
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15:12 tcohen welcome!
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15:37 tcohen Joubu: the problem with asking the devs to deal with defaults in tests, is that we add a single boolean to some class, and then Circulation.t can fail randomly. And it doesn't add anything useful if we need to go track all places in which a sample object is initialized to add a default value...
15:37 tcohen to add the same default everywhere...
15:38 tcohen that's basically what default are for :-D
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15:40 oleonard ashimema: mtj helped me get up and running with an M2 macbook and ktd. And I think kidclamp may have tried too?
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15:45 ashimema aha.. thanks oleonard
15:45 kidclamp We tried and failed
15:46 ashimema oh noes...
15:46 ashimema what problems did you hit
15:46 paulderscheid[m] Hi, mtj has an image that‘s working with aarch64. Smooth sailing. M1 btw.
15:47 ashimema we've been having db connection stuff after we managed to get through M2 specific fun
15:47 ashimema now it's networking fun I think.
16:08 reiveune bye
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18:01 oleonard Anyone still around? tcohen?
18:04 davidnind hi oleonard
18:04 oleonard Hi davidnind, how are you?
18:05 davidnind good - just starting my day...
18:07 oleonard I was going to ask a question that I think it outside your area of expertise (as it is mine)... Trying to figure out how to make a template not break when using [% BIBLIO.normalized_isbn %] when normalized_isbn isn't always part of the...object?
18:09 davidnind definitely outside my area of expertise 🙂
18:15 oleonard ...and my question has not manifested any sages
18:57 caroline I have a self-hosted client who is reporting having the problem from bug 18855, is it normal to have the cron run during library hours when an item could be checked in?
18:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18855 normal, P5 - low, ---, michael.hafen, Needs Signoff , Fines cronjob can cause duplicate fines if run during active circulation
18:58 caroline On our hosted instances, runs early in the morning, like 2am
19:04 SupportLibrary[m] Good evening. I am currently in the process of changing the ISDB view in the service interface. I ran into the following situation and I don't know how to deal with it. At #490| |– ({ 490a ;}{ 490v })| , if tag 490 is not filled in – it is removed from the ISBD view, however, in case #245||– { 245f }| , if field 245 is not filled in – it remains.
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] About #245 these are its surrounding tags: #245|: |{ 245b. }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] #245|– |{ 245f }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] #245|/ |{ 245c. }|
20:01 pastebot "davidnind" at pasted "Default ISBD view for the staff interface" (107 lines) at
20:02 davidnind Support Library: I don't have any knowledge of the ISBD template/view (I've posted the default)
20:05 davidnind If you paste what you have for your entire template at I'll give it a try - assuming that for $245$f, if it has a value it should be displayed and if it doesn't nothing should be displayed?
20:05 SupportLibrary[m] okey
20:08 SupportLibrary[m]
20:09 SupportLibrary[m] s/https/This is the ISBD view for staffhttps/
20:09 SupportLibrary[m] * This is the ISBD view for staff
20:15 davidnind Support Library: with your template, if I have a value in the record for 245$f it displays, if I don't it doesn't (if I understand correctly what you are trying to do)
20:16 SupportLibrary[m] davidnind: The problem is this symbol: -
20:17 SupportLibrary[m] whether 245$f has a value or not, this character is not removed
20:29 davidnind it's working as expected for me (on master) - if I have a value in the record for 245$f (such as 2002) it displays as - 2002
20:29 davidnind does the record have a blank space in 245$f?
20:30 SupportLibrary[m] no
20:30 SupportLibrary[m] for example if you look at #245|: |{ 245b. }{- 245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:31 SupportLibrary[m] if i remove the value from 245c the symbol / is removed
20:32 SupportLibrary[m] but this does not work for 245f
20:34 davidnind for the MARC view is 245$f listed?
20:35 SupportLibrary[m] yes
20:35 SupportLibrary[m] at this moment when i add some value in 245$f does not show in ISBD view?
20:36 SupportLibrary[m] i truly do not know what is going on 😂
20:40 davidnind if there is no value in the record for 245$f, then it shouldn't be showing in the MARC view - which led me to the idea that there is a space in the record (that is, the field is not empty)
20:41 davidnind otherwise, your template is working for me on master, so I am all out of ideas
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] #245|: |{ 245b. }{-245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] now it woks fine
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] i was writing with the wrong symbol
20:43 davidnind excellent!
20:43 SupportLibrary[m] thank you
20:47 davidnind caroline: the manual suggests that this should be run nightly if that is any help[…]n_jobs.html#fines
20:49 davidnind it seems odd to me that it is run during the day, when you might have transactions occurring that might affect fines - but I've never worked in a library...
20:49 caroline thanks davidnind! I had checked the manual, but it doesnt really specify *not* to run it during operation hours
20:49 caroline I think it's weird too
20:51 caroline I was able to reproduce the behaviour of 18855, but if you run it when the library is closed, it shouldn't happen (maybe unless you have automatic returns)
20:53 ashimema So you mean where BIBLIO isn't an object at all oleonard
20:53 ashimema What error do you get.. a complete explosion?
20:56 ashimema We have at least one include that tries to handle a similar case.. can't entirely remember which one off the top of my head.. probably Biblio related I reckon
20:56 davidnind caroline: I could add a note to the manual saying why it is recommended to run at night, or pointing out the consequence of running during the day (until the bug is fixed anyway)
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