IRC log for #koha, 2022-11-18

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01:36 tuxayo Ok, gitlab included in the libre version linking ticketts
01:38 tuxayo oh, it's only for related tickets. Having "blocks" and "is blocked by" is not in the libre version. No interest for us then...
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05:40 Joubu oleonard: I am hearing you are willing to write test plans for me?
05:50 Joubu @later tell tcohen 32104 - did you recreate the problem?
05:50 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
05:58 Joubu @later tell ashimema Is Jacob one of your workmate? If so, can you have a look at 18247 and teach them how to signoff? :)
05:58 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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06:38 fridolin https://demo.biblibre.com/
06:39 Joubu https://snipboard.io/Ym1QqO.jpg - what's this emoji?
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06:42 fridolin an owl ? (o - o)
06:42 fridolin XD
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06:47 ashimema Lol
06:53 ashimema Doh, think that was a sandbox issue at my end . But I will get him to be more vigilant in checking the patch was attached
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06:57 AMAR Hello All,
07:03 Joubu how do librarians search for patron?
07:03 Joubu This is awful:
07:04 Joubu 1. Search for "edn" in the "Search patrons" header search box
07:04 Joubu 2. Autocomplete show 1 patron
07:04 Joubu => You cannot select it using down key or tab, so press enter
07:05 Joubu 3. Main patron search is displayed, form on the left is fill in with "edn"
07:05 Joubu 4. Blink, the DT is displayed, empty, "loading"
07:05 Joubu 5. Blink, there is only 1 result, we (finally!) redirect to the patron detail page
07:05 Joubu any suggestions to improve that?
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07:08 marcelr hi #koha
07:09 Joubu marcelr: you missed my question!
07:09 marcelr which question?
07:09 marcelr bug ?
07:09 Joubu it is not auth related, not sure it will interest you
07:10 Joubu http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-11-18#i_2462845
07:10 marcelr i find selection of patrons with autocomplete also a bit tedious
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07:13 Joubu looks like we have a bug, https://jqueryui.com/autocomplete/ this is working ok (at least pressing the down key let you select items, not empty the input field!)
07:16 marcelr harder to resolve probably when using external code
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07:32 reiveune hello
07:41 marcelr o/
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07:48 alex_ Bonjour
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08:15 Joubu marcelr: when a bug report is marked as pushed to master, but you still want RM to have attention on it, the "additional_work_needed" keyword should be used. You don't need to adjust the status
08:22 marcelr ok
09:06 Joubu bug 32260, bug 32261
09:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
09:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Insufficient user feedback when selecting patron in autocomplete
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11:34 tcohen hola #koha o/
11:34 oleonard Hi tcohen
11:49 oleonard Joubu, no other clues about how to reproduce Bug 32260? So far I've had no luck
11:49 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
11:53 Joubu oleonard: type faster?
11:53 Joubu you should hit enter before you see the autocomplete result
11:54 tcohen am I online?
11:55 Joubu hum wifi down here
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12:20 oleonard Joubu++
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12:44 tcohen Joubu++
12:44 tcohen oleonard++
12:44 tcohen heh
12:58 Joubu tcohen: can you push 32010 please?
12:58 Joubu Am I the only one not happy when Jenkins is not happy?
12:59 Joubu there are some serious failures there
12:59 Joubu Koha/REST/Plugin/Auth/IdP.t line 126
12:59 Joubu got: '500'
12:59 Joubu expected: '200'
12:59 Joubu that's... embarassing..
13:01 tcohen can you contact any QA team member to take a look?
13:02 Joubu qa_team?
13:03 tcohen I'll take a look at the IdP issue
13:03 Joubu there is a follow-up on bug 32154
13:03 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32154 normal, P5 - low, ---, pjamorim91, Pushed to master , Missing primary key on erm_user_roles table
13:03 tcohen I don't feel embarrassed, but I care about
13:04 Joubu the GetSoonestRenewDate ones are scary as well
13:04 Joubu not having the CI green for weeks (months?) is embarrassing..
13:06 tcohen we've had a selenium test failure for months, and I didn't care much about, and also didn't got any help fixing it
13:06 tcohen the others are really recent
13:07 tcohen fixing the failures is a good friday plan, though
13:10 tcohen lots of follow-up patches on already pushed bugs is confusing for me
13:12 Joubu even if there is the keyword?
13:12 Joubu Do you prefer dozen of "22.11 candidates" staying in NSO?
13:13 tcohen This follow-ups don't go through QA, it is a hard call
13:13 tcohen I see where you're coming from, not arguing, I'm not sure what's best
13:14 tcohen for example, marcel's I'd like more eyes there
13:14 tcohen and now I need to take care of pointing people there for review, or take responsability for pushing things that are wrong...
13:14 tcohen in a contentious subject (opinion, taste, etc)
13:15 tcohen I'm not saying it is wrong, it might be the best patch ever
13:15 tcohen just saying I cannot count on QA there
13:15 Joubu ok, moving it
13:15 tcohen no need to move
13:16 tcohen I'm looking at the addition... keyword now
13:16 tcohen but next ones...
13:17 Joubu too late
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13:43 Joubu 32268
13:43 Joubu bug 32268
13:43 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32268 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/XSLT.t is failing randomly
13:50 Joubu tcohen: 32212 - in my understanding you need to push the related yarn.lock when package.json is modified
14:33 Joubu bug 32269
14:33 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t is failing randomly
14:33 tcohen Joubu: should we fix it with better default in TestBuilder?
14:34 Joubu I don't know
14:34 Joubu you are supposed to set the values you need when you write your tests
14:35 Joubu I should have put this patch on its own bug report however
14:52 ashimema anyone here using an M2 mac and ktd yet?
14:54 Joubu paulderscheid[m]: ?
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14:59 ashimema Hi Jacob and Matt, welcome to IRC
15:00 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Hi everyone
15:01 caroline Welcome!
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15:12 tcohen welcome!
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15:37 tcohen Joubu: the problem with asking the devs to deal with defaults in tests, is that we add a single boolean to some class, and then Circulation.t can fail randomly. And it doesn't add anything useful if we need to go track all places in which a sample object is initialized to add a default value...
15:37 tcohen to add the same default everywhere...
15:38 tcohen that's basically what default are for :-D
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15:40 oleonard ashimema: mtj helped me get up and running with an M2 macbook and ktd. And I think kidclamp may have tried too?
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15:45 ashimema aha.. thanks oleonard
15:45 kidclamp We tried and failed
15:46 ashimema oh noes...
15:46 ashimema what problems did you hit
15:46 paulderscheid[m] Hi, mtj has an image that‘s working with aarch64. Smooth sailing. M1 btw.
15:47 ashimema we've been having db connection stuff after we managed to get through M2 specific fun
15:47 ashimema now it's networking fun I think.
16:08 reiveune bye
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18:01 oleonard Anyone still around? tcohen?
18:04 davidnind hi oleonard
18:04 oleonard Hi davidnind, how are you?
18:05 davidnind good - just starting my day...
18:07 oleonard I was going to ask a question that I think it outside your area of expertise (as it is mine)... Trying to figure out how to make a template not break when using [% BIBLIO.normalized_isbn %] when normalized_isbn isn't always part of the...object?
18:09 davidnind definitely outside my area of expertise 🙂
18:15 oleonard ...and my question has not manifested any sages
18:57 caroline I have a self-hosted client who is reporting having the problem from bug 18855, is it normal to have the fines.pl cron run during library hours when an item could be checked in?
18:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18855 normal, P5 - low, ---, michael.hafen, Needs Signoff , Fines cronjob can cause duplicate fines if run during active circulation
18:58 caroline On our hosted instances, fines.pl runs early in the morning, like 2am
19:04 SupportLibrary[m] Good evening. I am currently in the process of changing the ISDB view in the service interface. I ran into the following situation and I don't know how to deal with it. At #490| |– ({ 490a ;}{ 490v })| , if tag 490 is not filled in – it is removed from the ISBD view, however, in case #245||– { 245f }| , if field 245 is not filled in – it remains.
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] About #245 these are its surrounding tags: #245|: |{ 245b. }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] #245|– |{ 245f }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m] #245|/ |{ 245c. }|
20:01 pastebot "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Default ISBD view for the staff interface" (107 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/18704
20:02 davidnind Support Library: I don't have any knowledge of the ISBD template/view (I've posted the default)
20:05 davidnind If you paste what you have for your entire template at paste.koha-community.org I'll give it a try - assuming that for $245$f, if it has a value it should be displayed and if it doesn't nothing should be displayed?
20:05 SupportLibrary[m] okey
20:08 SupportLibrary[m] https://paste.koha-community.org/18706
20:09 SupportLibrary[m] s/https/This is the ISBD view for staffhttps/
20:09 SupportLibrary[m] * This is the ISBD view for staff https://paste.koha-community.org/18706
20:15 davidnind Support Library: with your template, if I have a value in the record for 245$f it displays, if I don't it doesn't (if I understand correctly what you are trying to do)
20:16 SupportLibrary[m] davidnind: The problem is this symbol: -
20:17 SupportLibrary[m] whether 245$f has a value or not, this character is not removed
20:29 davidnind it's working as expected for me (on master) - if I have a value in the record for 245$f (such as 2002) it displays as - 2002
20:29 davidnind does the record have a blank space in 245$f?
20:30 SupportLibrary[m] no
20:30 SupportLibrary[m] for example if you look at #245|: |{ 245b. }{- 245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:31 SupportLibrary[m] if i remove the value from 245c the symbol / is removed
20:32 SupportLibrary[m] but this does not work for 245f
20:34 davidnind for the MARC view is 245$f listed?
20:35 SupportLibrary[m] yes
20:35 SupportLibrary[m] at this moment when i add some value in 245$f does not show in ISBD view?
20:36 SupportLibrary[m] i truly do not know what is going on 😂
20:40 davidnind if there is no value in the record for 245$f, then it shouldn't be showing in the MARC view - which led me to the idea that there is a space in the record (that is, the field is not empty)
20:41 davidnind otherwise, your template is working for me on master, so I am all out of ideas
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] #245|: |{ 245b. }{-245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] now it woks fine
20:42 SupportLibrary[m] i was writing with the wrong symbol
20:43 davidnind excellent!
20:43 SupportLibrary[m] thank you
20:47 davidnind caroline: the manual suggests that this should be run nightly if that is any help https://koha-community.org/man[…]n_jobs.html#fines
20:49 davidnind it seems odd to me that it is run during the day, when you might have transactions occurring that might affect fines - but I've never worked in a library...
20:49 caroline thanks davidnind! I had checked the manual, but it doesnt really specify *not* to run it during operation hours
20:49 caroline I think it's weird too
20:51 caroline I was able to reproduce the behaviour of 18855, but if you run it when the library is closed, it shouldn't happen (maybe unless you have automatic returns)
20:53 ashimema So you mean where BIBLIO isn't an object at all oleonard
20:53 ashimema What error do you get.. a complete explosion?
20:56 ashimema We have at least one include that tries to handle a similar case.. can't entirely remember which one off the top of my head.. probably Biblio related I reckon
20:56 davidnind caroline: I could add a note to the manual saying why it is recommended to run at night, or pointing out the consequence of running during the day (until the bug is fixed anyway)
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