Time  Nick                 Message
20:56 davidnind            caroline: I could add a note to the manual saying why it is recommended to run at night, or pointing out the consequence of running during the day (until the bug is fixed anyway)
20:56 ashimema             We have at least one include that tries to handle a similar case.. can't entirely remember which one off the top of my head.. probably Biblio related I reckon
20:53 ashimema             What error do you get.. a complete explosion?
20:53 ashimema             So you mean where BIBLIO isn't an object at all oleonard
20:51 caroline             I was able to reproduce the behaviour of 18855, but if you run it when the library is closed, it shouldn't happen (maybe unless you have automatic returns)
20:49 caroline             I think it's weird too
20:49 caroline             thanks davidnind! I had checked the manual, but it doesnt really specify *not* to run it during operation hours
20:49 davidnind            it seems odd to me that it is run during the day, when you might have transactions occurring that might affect fines - but I've never worked in a library...
20:47 davidnind            caroline: the manual suggests that this should be run nightly if that is any help https://koha-community.org/manual/22.11/en/html/cron_jobs.html#fines
20:43 SupportLibrary[m]    thank you
20:43 davidnind            excellent!
20:42 SupportLibrary[m]    i was writing with the wrong symbol
20:42 SupportLibrary[m]    now it woks fine
20:42 SupportLibrary[m]    #245|: |{ 245b. }{-245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:41 davidnind            otherwise, your template is working for me on master, so I am all out of ideas
20:40 davidnind            if there is no value in the record for 245$f, then it shouldn't be showing in the MARC view - which led me to the idea that there is a space in the record (that is, the field is not empty)
20:36 SupportLibrary[m]    i truly do not know what is going on 😂
20:35 SupportLibrary[m]    at this moment when i add some value in 245$f does not show in ISBD view?
20:35 SupportLibrary[m]    yes
20:34 davidnind            for the MARC view is 245$f listed?
20:32 SupportLibrary[m]    but this does not work for 245f
20:31 SupportLibrary[m]    if i remove the value from 245c the symbol / is removed
20:30 SupportLibrary[m]    for example if you look at #245|: |{ 245b. }{- 245f }{/ 245c. }|
20:30 SupportLibrary[m]    no
20:29 davidnind            does the record have a blank space in 245$f?
20:29 davidnind            it's working as expected for me (on master) - if I have a value in the record for 245$f (such as 2002) it displays as - 2002
20:17 SupportLibrary[m]    whether 245$f has a value or not, this character is not removed
20:16 SupportLibrary[m]    davidnind: The problem is this symbol: -
20:15 davidnind            Support Library: with your template, if I have a value in the record for 245$f it displays, if I don't it doesn't (if I understand correctly what you are trying to do)
20:09 SupportLibrary[m]    * This is the ISBD view for staff https://paste.koha-community.org/18706
20:09 SupportLibrary[m]    s/https/This is the ISBD view for staffhttps/
20:08 SupportLibrary[m]    https://paste.koha-community.org/18706
20:05 SupportLibrary[m]    okey
20:05 davidnind            If you paste what you have for your entire template at paste.koha-community.org I'll give it a try - assuming that for $245$f, if it has a value it should be displayed and if it doesn't nothing should be displayed?
20:02 davidnind            Support Library: I don't have any knowledge of the ISBD template/view (I've posted the default)
20:01 pastebot             "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Default ISBD view for the staff interface" (107 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/18704
19:08 SupportLibrary[m]    #245|/ |{ 245c. }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m]    #245|– |{ 245f }|
19:08 SupportLibrary[m]    About #245 these are its surrounding tags: #245|: |{ 245b. }|
19:04 SupportLibrary[m]    Good evening. I am currently in the process of changing the ISDB view in the service interface. I ran into the following situation and I don't know how to deal with it. At #490| |– ({ 490a ;}{ 490v })| , if tag 490 is not filled in – it is removed from the ISBD view, however, in case #245||– { 245f }| , if field 245 is not filled in – it remains.
18:58 caroline             On our hosted instances, fines.pl runs early in the morning, like 2am
18:57 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18855 normal, P5 - low, ---, michael.hafen, Needs Signoff , Fines cronjob can cause duplicate fines if run during active circulation
18:57 caroline             I have a self-hosted client who is reporting having the problem from bug 18855, is it normal to have the fines.pl cron run during library hours when an item could be checked in?
18:15 oleonard             ...and my question has not manifested any sages
18:09 davidnind            definitely outside my area of expertise 🙂
18:07 oleonard             I was going to ask a question that I think it outside your area of expertise (as it is mine)... Trying to figure out how to make a template not break when using [% BIBLIO.normalized_isbn %] when normalized_isbn isn't always part of the...object?
18:05 davidnind            good - just starting my day...
18:04 oleonard             Hi davidnind, how are you?
18:04 davidnind            hi oleonard
18:01 oleonard             Anyone still around? tcohen?
16:08 reiveune             bye
15:47 ashimema             now it's networking fun I think.
15:47 ashimema             we've been having db connection stuff after we managed to get through M2 specific fun
15:46 paulderscheid[m]     Hi, mtj has an image that‘s working with aarch64. Smooth sailing. M1 btw.
15:46 ashimema             what problems did you hit
15:46 ashimema             oh noes...
15:45 kidclamp             We tried and failed
15:45 ashimema             aha.. thanks oleonard
15:40 oleonard             ashimema: mtj helped me get up and running with an M2 macbook and ktd. And I think kidclamp may have tried too?
15:38 tcohen               that's basically what default are for :-D
15:37 tcohen               to add the same default everywhere...
15:37 tcohen               Joubu: the problem with asking the devs to deal with defaults in tests, is that we add a single boolean to some class, and then Circulation.t can fail randomly. And it doesn't add anything useful if we need to go track all places in which a sample object is initialized to add a default value...
15:12 tcohen               welcome!
15:01 caroline             Welcome!
15:00 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Hi everyone
14:59 ashimema             Hi Jacob and Matt, welcome to IRC
14:54 Joubu                paulderscheid[m]: ?
14:52 ashimema             anyone here using an M2 mac and ktd yet?
14:35 Joubu                I should have put this patch on its own bug report however
14:34 Joubu                you are supposed to set the values you need when you write your tests
14:34 Joubu                I don't know
14:33 tcohen               Joubu: should we fix it with better default in TestBuilder?
14:33 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t is failing randomly
14:33 Joubu                bug 32269
13:50 Joubu                tcohen: 32212 - in my understanding you need to push the related yarn.lock when package.json is modified
13:43 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32268 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/XSLT.t is failing randomly
13:43 Joubu                bug 32268
13:43 Joubu                32268
13:17 Joubu                too late
13:16 tcohen               but next ones...
13:16 tcohen               I'm looking at the addition... keyword now
13:15 tcohen               no need to move
13:15 Joubu                ok, moving it
13:15 tcohen               just saying I cannot count on QA there
13:15 tcohen               I'm not saying it is wrong, it might be the best patch ever
13:14 tcohen               in a contentious subject (opinion, taste, etc)
13:14 tcohen               and now I need to take care of pointing people there for review, or take responsability for pushing things that are wrong...
13:14 tcohen               for example, marcel's I'd like more eyes there
13:13 tcohen               I see where you're coming from, not arguing, I'm not sure what's best
13:13 tcohen               This follow-ups don't go through QA, it is a hard call
13:12 Joubu                Do you prefer dozen of "22.11 candidates" staying in NSO?
13:12 Joubu                even if there is the keyword?
13:10 tcohen               lots of follow-up patches on already pushed bugs is confusing for me
13:07 tcohen               fixing the failures is a good friday plan, though
13:06 tcohen               the others are really recent
13:06 tcohen               we've had a selenium test failure for months, and I didn't care much about, and also didn't got any help fixing it
13:04 Joubu                not having the CI green for weeks (months?) is embarrassing..
13:04 Joubu                the GetSoonestRenewDate ones are scary as well
13:03 tcohen               I don't feel embarrassed, but I care about
13:03 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32154 normal, P5 - low, ---, pjamorim91, Pushed to master , Missing primary key on erm_user_roles table
13:03 Joubu                there is a follow-up on bug 32154
13:03 tcohen               I'll take a look at the IdP issue
13:02 Joubu                qa_team?
13:01 tcohen               can you contact any QA team member to take a look?
12:59 Joubu                that's... embarassing..
12:59 Joubu                expected: '200'
12:59 Joubu                got: '500'
12:59 Joubu                Koha/REST/Plugin/Auth/IdP.t line 126
12:59 Joubu                there are some serious failures there
12:58 Joubu                Am I the only one not happy when Jenkins is not happy?
12:58 Joubu                tcohen: can you push 32010 please?
12:44 tcohen               heh
12:44 tcohen               [off] always
12:44 tcohen               oleonard++
12:44 tcohen               Joubu++
12:20 oleonard             Joubu++
11:55 Joubu                hum wifi down here
11:54 tcohen               am I online?
11:53 Joubu                you should hit enter before you see the autocomplete result
11:53 Joubu                oleonard: type faster?
11:49 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
11:49 oleonard             Joubu, no other clues about how to reproduce Bug 32260? So far I've had no luck
11:34 oleonard             Hi tcohen
11:34 tcohen               hola #koha o/
09:06 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Insufficient user feedback when selecting patron in autocomplete
09:06 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32260 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent alert when searching patron (autocomplete)
09:06 Joubu                bug 32260, bug 32261
08:22 marcelr              ok
08:15 Joubu                marcelr: when a bug report is marked as pushed to master, but you still want RM to have attention on it, the "additional_work_needed" keyword should be used. You don't need to adjust the status
07:48 alex_                Bonjour
07:41 marcelr              o/
07:32 reiveune             hello
07:16 marcelr              harder to resolve probably when using external code
07:13 Joubu                looks like we have a bug, https://jqueryui.com/autocomplete/ this is working ok (at least pressing the down key let you select items, not empty the input field!)
07:10 marcelr              i find selection of patrons with autocomplete also a bit tedious
07:10 Joubu                http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-11-18#i_2462845
07:09 Joubu                it is not auth related, not sure it will interest you
07:09 marcelr              bug ?
07:09 marcelr              which question?
07:09 Joubu                marcelr: you missed my question!
07:08 marcelr              hi #koha
07:05 Joubu                any suggestions to improve that?
07:05 Joubu                5. Blink, there is only 1 result, we (finally!) redirect to the patron detail page
07:05 Joubu                4. Blink, the DT is displayed, empty, "loading"
07:05 Joubu                3. Main patron search is displayed, form on the left is fill in with "edn"
07:04 Joubu                => You cannot select it using down key or tab, so press enter
07:04 Joubu                2. Autocomplete show 1 patron
07:04 Joubu                1. Search for "edn" in the "Search patrons" header search box
07:03 Joubu                This is awful:
07:03 Joubu                how do librarians search for patron?
06:57 AMAR                 Hello All,
06:53 ashimema             Doh, think that was a sandbox issue at my end . But I will get him to be more vigilant in checking the patch was attached
06:47 ashimema             Lol
06:42 fridolin             XD
06:42 fridolin             an owl ? (o - o)
06:39 Joubu                https://snipboard.io/Ym1QqO.jpg - what's this emoji?
06:38 fridolin             https://demo.biblibre.com/
05:58 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
05:58 Joubu                @later tell ashimema Is Jacob one of your workmate? If so, can you have a look at 18247 and teach them how to signoff? :)
05:50 huginn`              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
05:50 Joubu                @later tell tcohen 32104 - did you recreate the problem?
05:40 Joubu                oleonard: I am hearing you are willing to write test plans for me?
01:38 tuxayo               oh, it's only for related tickets. Having "blocks" and "is blocked by" is not in the libre version. No interest for us then...
01:36 tuxayo               Ok, gitlab included in the libre version linking ticketts