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kohaputti |
kidclamp, just bumped into bug 10374 – I guess I could rebase the patch you submitted almost a decade ago, are you onboard with me? :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10374 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , Clean up and unify CircControl related code |
| 11:18 |
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kohaputti |
The issue we have is that different circulation rules are used for renewal and fine calculation |
| 11:19 |
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kohaputti |
now the renewal goes based on the holdingbranch, but with fines it goes with homebranch. |
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tcohen |
morning |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
oh my |
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cait |
the treasures hidden in our bugzilla |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
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cait |
kohaputti++ old bug fixing |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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kidclamp |
kohaputti: looks like that was khall? |
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kohaputti |
sorry, confused somehow the names |
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kidclamp |
I will always take the compliment of being confused for him :-) |
| 11:34 |
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tcohen |
hehe |
| 11:38 |
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kohaputti |
actually.. I think here CanBookBeRenewed has an issue... It should use the holdingbranch if PickupLibrary and homeorholdingbranch = holdingbranch. Or so I think, it is strange that the circ rule would be different based on whether it is when doing checkout, when doing fine calculation, when doing renewal |
| 11:39 |
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kohaputti |
using branch specific rules is not so great it seems :D |
| 11:42 |
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kohaputti |
hmm, there seems to be also problems with overdue notices not being triggered: bug 24550 |
| 11:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24550 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Books renewals triggers item loan policies to revert to branch renewing item |
| 11:42 |
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kohaputti |
(because using wrong circ rule I guess) |
| 11:42 |
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kohaputti |
actually... those should be based on the due date |
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kohaputti |
probably not related. |
| 11:44 |
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kohaputti |
and now the fix is back to bug 27032 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, NEW , CanBookBeRenewed is not understandable and needs refactoring |
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kohaputti |
this functions seems to pop up in every problem :D |
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domm |
hey, in apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf a couple of scripts are deactivated "so they don't break under plack/starman" |
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domm |
any pointers what needs fixing? |
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domm |
we're running Koha under Plack, and would like to do eg stage-marc-import.pl |
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domm |
bug 15032 seems to be the cause? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , [Plack] Scripts that fork (like stage-marc-import.pl) don't work as expected |
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domm |
and/or bug 22417 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add a task queue |
| 13:14 |
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domm |
anyway: I've implemented my fair number of task queues using various tools (from filesystem, DBs to Redis) |
| 13:15 |
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domm |
But I don't know a lot about Koha etc |
| 13:16 |
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domm |
So if you have decided on a solution, and "just" need somebody to help implementing, I could probably do that (depending on the actual amount of work it'll take ...) |
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Joubu |
domm: Since 20.11 we have a task queue based on rabbit-mq. So far only the batch record modification tool has been implemented |
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Joubu |
have a look at 22417 |
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Joubu |
the plan is to replace the other scripts to make them use this mechanism |
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domm |
ok, I was just reading through the issues , wow, lots of discussions |
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domm |
so I could port stage-marc-import.pl to the rabbitMQ solutiuon described in 22417 ? |
| 13:38 |
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Joubu |
yes! |
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Joubu |
that would beg reat |
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Joubu |
great |
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cait |
and add it to the Raod map :P |
| 13:40 |
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cait |
no, seriously |
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domm |
So I would "only" need to convert stage-marc-import.pl to Koha::BackgroundJob::MARCImport |
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Joubu |
that's not trivial |
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domm |
Joubu: I assumend that, hence the "only" :-) |
| 14:19 |
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domm |
were BatchUpdateBiblio|Authority also some cgi-scripts earlier? If yes, where can I find them (in git), because I assume I can get some nice hints on how to port stage-marc-import.pl |
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domm |
tools/batch_record_modification.pl ? |
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cait |
looks about right |
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Joubu |
domm: commit 63cf7a0307be91d30766a2cf971737077f75cfb9 |
| 14:34 |
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Joubu |
Bug 22417: Adapt the batch_record_modification tool |
| 14:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add a task queue |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
this commit provided the changes from the .tt and controller |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
compare with |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
commit 0848d46ce60b780a9530e46de0bddd2b7ed21ea1 |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
Bug 22417: Add Koha::BackgroundJob::BatchUpdateBiblio |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
and you will get the point |
| 14:36 |
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Joubu |
I can provide you early feedback whenever you want |
| 14:38 |
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domm |
ok, thanks, we'll first need to set up rabbitMQ etc :-) |
| 14:39 |
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* ashimema |
hints that you don't actually need rabbitMQ at all |
| 14:39 |
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ashimema |
the workers fall back to polling the database |
| 14:39 |
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ashimema |
and we don't do anything clever like parallel jobs, forking, dependancies etc |
| 14:40 |
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ashimema |
we literally just do FIFO processing of jobs as and when they hit the queue... inside one daemon process |
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domm |
ashimema: ah, ok. |
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domm |
are there any docs available on the background job setup? |
| 14:41 |
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ashimema |
that's not to say "Don't play with RabbitMQ".. more to say.. "Don't get held up by a need to play with RabbitMQ" |
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ashimema |
;) |
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domm |
oh, and too bad you're not using Postgres, because their pg_notify is a great way to implement easy job queues |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
I totally wanted that |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
that's what Minion uses |
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oleonard |
"too bad you're not using Postgres" is what every dev new to Koha seems to say :| |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
postgres is lovely |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
but... |
| 14:43 |
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oleonard |
At least that's the polite version :D |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
whilst we pretend we want to support all SQL's (but only in reality support MySQL/MariaDB) we'll never utilise any of the core strength of Pg anyways |
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ashimema |
man.. git.koha-community.org is slow |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
ok.. github links will work instead |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
so.. for adding a background job.. I think it's as simple as adding a module here: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]oha/BackgroundJob |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]_worker.pl#L31and referencing it in the hard coded list of available jobs here |
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Joubu |
yes |
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Joubu |
it's swapping right now |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
I've just noticed it few minutes ago |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
are you cloning the repo? |
| 14:46 |
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ashimema |
nope |
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ashimema |
I was just trying to use the UI to give the above links to our repo instead of in github |
| 14:51 |
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domm |
ashimema: ok, perfect, thanks |
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domm |
and koha-worker will figure out by itself it is using RabbitMQ or the DB? |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
the code is simple there.. if it find a rabbitmq config and connection it'll use it.. if not it'll just poll the database for jobs |
| 14:56 |
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ashimema |
in both cases we are basically doing polling anyway as far as I can tell.. just one polls rabbitmq whilst the other polls mysql |
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ashimema |
maybe I'm wrong on the rabbitmq front.. it should be listening for notifications.. but I'm sure when I read the code it look like it was looping more like a poll |
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Joubu |
ashimema: kicked some bots and git server is feeling better now |
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ashimema |
ahh.. |
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ashimema |
do we need a robots.txt? |
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Joubu |
we have one, but we don't want to reject all of them |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tuxayo |
@later tell dcook__ do you have hints about what should be done to make some of your buildQuery() tests work in 19.11? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=12430#c92 |
| 18:22 |
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huginn |
tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:22 |
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huginn |
Bug 12430: major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to oldoldstable , Relevance ranking should also be used without QueryWeightFields system preference |
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oleonard |
ashimema still around? |
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* oleonard |
will try later |
| 19:38 |
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tcohen |
earlier? |
| 19:38 |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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* cait |
waves |
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ashimema |
Hi |
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wahanui |
privet, ashimema |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
:) |
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| 21:13 |
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tuxayo |
Does anyone know about the OPAC's "Browse search" feature and if it's normal that searching (by title) in sample data "All music" yields "All music guide to soul" but searching "guide" doesn't? |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
hm |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
i can't verify right now, but oculd it be doing a begins with search? |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
have you tried making it fuzzier? |
| 21:16 |
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caroline |
I think the brosw feature is supposed to be "starts with" no? |
| 21:16 |
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tuxayo |
cait: indeed it's a begins with search! |
| 21:18 |
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tuxayo |
Odd that one must know well the name to find. Even if it begin with "a", it matter |
| 21:18 |
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caroline |
that's what browsing is |
| 21:19 |
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caroline |
I usually use it to find things near what I'm searching for |
| 21:19 |
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tuxayo |
cait: even if it's "Really fuzzy", it's still a begin with search |
| 21:20 |
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cait |
ok |
| 21:20 |
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tuxayo |
caroline: ok no worries then |
| 21:20 |
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tuxayo |
thanks you two :) |
| 21:20 |
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tuxayo |
let's signoff |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
caroline++ :) |
| 21:33 |
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caroline |
tuxayo: when you do a point release, does it come with the latest po files? |
| 21:34 |
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tuxayo |
caroline: yes, exported from Pootle the day of the release. |
| 21:34 |
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cait |
as it should be tuxayo++ |
| 21:34 |
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caroline |
ok tahnks! |
| 21:34 |
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caroline |
good to know |
| 21:34 |
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tuxayo |
^^ |
| 21:35 |
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caroline |
we have a client testing 20.05.05 and there are so many missing translations... I'm sure I was at 100% for 20.05 at one point |
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cait |
in accounting we are missing quit e afew patches for fixing things |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
i have that on my list... and keep nagging ashimema |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
do you see issues in other areas too? |
| 21:46 |
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* cait |
is working on translating the manual ... |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
i might finish before I am 90 |
| 21:46 |
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caroline |
LOL! |
| 21:47 |
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caroline |
I gave up on translating the manual... -_- |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
i will probably get grumpy as soon as you branch 21.05 and all the new stuff appears :) |
| 21:59 |
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tuxayo |
caroline: «I'm sure I was at 100% for 20.05 at one point» |
| 21:59 |
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tuxayo |
Maybe there is an issue :o |
| 21:59 |
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caroline |
No i think it's that things were added/modified in the point releases |
| 22:01 |
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tuxayo |
It's a surprise that it can cause so many missing translations. |
| 22:03 |
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caroline |
A lot of things were moved into messages-js.po |
| 22:03 |
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tuxayo |
Well, many thing get backported in the first six months |
| 22:03 |
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tuxayo |
ok |
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cait |
caroline: i think these were a lot of Owen's patches being backportet- I remember those too |
| 22:13 |
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caroline |
I think maybe contextualizations or .inc that were added or moved |
| 22:14 |
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caroline |
I mean they are really basic things like the "Suspend"/"resume" button for holds that aren't translated |
| 22:14 |
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caroline |
it's not like it's a new feature |
| 22:15 |
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caroline |
anyway, it normally wouldn't be a problem, but this client is... particular, and it just stresses me out for nothing |
| 22:30 |
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* cait |
sends cookies |
| 22:30 |
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cait |
there should be an update again soon on pootle |
| 22:34 |
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dcook |
@later tell tuxayo yeah the tests just need to be updated for 19.11 to reflect the actual output. |
| 22:34 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:36 |
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tuxayo |
cait: what do you mean? |
| 22:36 |
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tuxayo |
dcook: thanks :) |
| 22:37 |
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dcook |
np |
| 22:37 |
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cait |
for bugfix releases - but maybe later than usual as they are scheduled for january? |
| 22:37 |
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tuxayo |
good, nothing scary |
| 22:37 |
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tuxayo |
cait: indeed, for the string freeze, let me check the new dates |
| 22:38 |
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tuxayo |
cait: caroline 24 december freeze, 5-6 january release |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
ah ok :) |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
got a bi tmore time then to get these patches rebased maybe... |
| 22:39 |
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caroline |
lol! I don't think I will be doing a lort of translating over the holidays |
| 22:39 |
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caroline |
oh well *shrugs* |
| 22:40 |
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tuxayo |
caroline: ugh, indeed that isn't great for translating the backported patches. ^^" |
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