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paxed |
oh, our cataloguers just love it when the xslt decides in which order subfields are shown |
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paxed |
instead of showing in the order the subfields are in the record. |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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* ashimema |
can't work out whether that was sarcasm or not paxed |
| 06:46 |
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* ashimema |
needs more input on bug 19919 |
| 06:46 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19919 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Writing off a Lost Item Fee marks as "Paid for by patron" |
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ashimema |
I wasn't suggesting removing the feature, rather refining it to work with modern practices |
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paxed |
ashimema: cataloguers always want the data to be shown exactly as they've entered it. |
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paxed |
in this case, 264ababc is shown in koha as 264aabbc |
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ashimema |
@later tell rangi I've also struggled to catch the other rmaints.. I've grabbed the tags from the security repo though and pushed them up to main for them |
| 08:03 |
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huginn` |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:08 |
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rangi |
thanks ashimema |
| 08:09 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 08:09 |
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ashimema |
oh, your online :) |
| 08:10 |
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ashimema |
good evening :) |
| 08:10 |
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ashimema |
and no worries |
| 08:11 |
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ashimema |
do you know how Horowhenua use the paidfor stuff.. do they report on it (i.e do they need it literally within the items table) or it just simply for display in certain places (in which case I could drop the field but keep the display by grabbing the details from accountlines) ? |
| 08:11 |
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ashimema |
bug 19919 that's in relation to rangi ^ |
| 08:11 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19919 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Writing off a Lost Item Fee marks as "Paid for by patron" |
| 08:11 |
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ashimema |
no hurry to answer |
| 08:13 |
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rangi |
its just to display |
| 08:14 |
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ashimema |
ta, that's helpful to know :) |
| 08:15 |
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* ashimema |
really wouldn't want to break people existing uses |
| 08:25 |
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rangi |
did you know, back in the day we used to maintain a Changelog |
| 08:26 |
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ashimema |
I suppose in way that's the idea of the release notes isn't it? |
| 08:26 |
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ashimema |
though I think our release notes are rather hard to comprehend if you're trying to work through them |
| 08:26 |
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pastebot |
"rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "paidfor" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2663 |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
yeah it was a bit more like a git log, for humans |
| 08:27 |
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ashimema |
jumping major version is easy to get confused by our notes as they contain overlapping bugs between maint release notes |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
git log wasnt a thing then of course :) |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
but theres the entry when paidfor was added, and why, and how it worked :) |
| 08:30 |
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ashimema |
I like changlogs |
| 08:30 |
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rangi |
you can generate them from git pretty easily |
| 08:31 |
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ashimema |
indeed you can |
| 08:31 |
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rangi |
misc/info/Changelog |
| 08:31 |
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rangi |
if you check out a pre 2003 koha, you'll see it :) |
| 08:32 |
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ashimema |
interesting, ta |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
if we wanted we could a hook, and it would update the changelog for us ;) |
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| 08:34 |
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ashimema |
I find our commit messages vary widely.. I kind of like the way we use bugzilla for the release notes details.. it's easier to go back and fix those in BZ than it is to embelish commits |
| 08:34 |
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ashimema |
embelishing commits once pushed would obviously be crazy bad too with the whole history re-writing pain |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
the hook can fetch details from bugzilla tho |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
just like the do for the release notes now |
| 08:35 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 08:36 |
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rangi |
i just find chronologically easier to read, when i want to see what changed when |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
it would be easier than looking at a pile of release notes :) |
| 08:37 |
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ashimema |
me too |
| 08:37 |
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rangi |
also if it was in the repo, then about.pl could pull from there too |
| 08:38 |
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rangi |
like we do with the history |
| 08:38 |
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rangi |
but for librarians to see what changed |
| 08:39 |
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rangi |
my plan for ages |
| 08:39 |
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rangi |
has been to have a page that just lists all the new sysprefs, since last upgrade |
| 08:40 |
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rangi |
so ppl can go try new features |
| 08:40 |
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rangi |
but i've never got round to doing anything about it |
| 08:41 |
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magnuse |
that would be super nice |
| 08:42 |
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ashimema |
I love the idea |
| 08:42 |
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* ashimema |
goes to meeting |
| 08:44 |
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* rangi |
wanders off for a bit |
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* Oak |
waves |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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magnuse |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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Archie^ |
is there a way to restrict search so it searches only in homebranch of patron? |
| 10:02 |
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paxed |
hm. so, uh, misc/cronjobs/update_totalissues.pl also updates the record 005 field. this is very much counterintuitive and feels wrong |
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ashimema |
that does feel a little odd |
| 10:23 |
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ashimema |
cait around? |
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* ashimema |
goes for :tea: |
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| 10:44 |
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ashimema |
anyone here us the paidfor field? |
| 10:44 |
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ashimema |
I can only see that it's ever display on the moredetails page.. is that right? |
| 10:44 |
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ashimema |
or have I missed some occurence somewhere |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
also.. the lost status of the item |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
I note we have LOST auth values in the optional sql loads.. of which one is 'Lost and Paid for'.. should we not automatically be setting that (it if exists I suppose as it's optional) when the item is paid for? |
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Archie^ |
Hey, is there a way to restrict search so it shows only homebranch items in intra / opac? |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
| 11:48 |
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magnuse |
Archie^: there is a syspref called SeparateHoldings, but that will only split items into two tabs. i don't think it's possible to hide completely records that are not connected to the user's library |
| 11:59 |
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cait |
around now for a bit, phone call soon |
| 12:00 |
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ashimema |
I wondered if you could varfiy that paidfor is only displayed by moredetails.pl cait |
| 12:03 |
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cait |
i don't think we have used it |
| 12:04 |
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cait |
we havemostly special libraries and academics and are not evenusing the longoverdue cronjob right now |
| 12:04 |
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cait |
maybe better to ask wizzyrea or khall |
| 12:05 |
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ashimema |
okies |
| 12:05 |
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ashimema |
I've done an alternative for bug 19919 now |
| 12:05 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19919 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Writing off a Lost Item Fee marks as "Paid for by patron" |
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ashimema |
think I prefer it but it makes the bug depend on the new status stuff |
| 12:06 |
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ashimema |
another good reason for someone to SO and QA bug 22563 |
| 12:06 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22563 enhancement, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Convert lost handling to use 'status' instead of multiple accounttypes |
| 12:18 |
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Archie^ |
magnuse: what about books that have no items? Right now i have multiple books presented in search that have no Items, any way to hide it? |
| 12:49 |
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magnuse |
Archie^: there are settings to hide based on all sorts of atributes of the items, but i don't think there is a way to hide records without items |
| 12:54 |
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Archie^ |
magnuse: i wonder if it is possible to make these changes by developing some sort of plugin? |
| 13:02 |
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oleonard |
Ugh, why are all the prefs covered by Bug 22844 pipe-delimited but UniqueItemFields is space-delimited?? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline_catlady |
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caroline_catlady |
hello! |
| 13:11 |
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caroline_catlady |
oh I forgot |
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caroline_catlady |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
| 13:11 |
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* caroline_catlady |
giggles |
| 13:12 |
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oleonard |
:D |
| 13:18 |
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magnuse |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
| 13:35 |
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vfernandes |
hi #koha |
| 13:36 |
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ashimema |
caroline_catlady: I'm not seeing you in any roles for 19.11 ? |
| 13:36 |
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vfernandes |
it's possible to checkout a book directly from the reserves without entering on patron page when a reserve is confirmed? |
| 13:37 |
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caroline_catlady |
yeah... I feel like I failed for 19.05, I was too busy with new migrations |
| 13:38 |
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ashimema |
:( |
| 13:39 |
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ashimema |
grr.. why is todays meeting not on the calendar |
| 13:39 |
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ashimema |
I was sure I added it |
| 13:39 |
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caroline_catlady |
what is the meeting today? general? |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
documentation tomorrow |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
and dev on 15th |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
morning |
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caroline_catlady |
who takes care of lists.koha-community.org? I'm having trouble with the ssl I think? |
| 13:50 |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm trying to reject a spam email, but I always get a security message |
| 13:50 |
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tcohen |
caroline_catlady: biblibre |
| 13:50 |
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wahanui |
biblibre is 17.11 |
| 13:50 |
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ashimema |
biblibre I think |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, wizzyrea |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
how we doin |
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* oleonard |
is trying to be a busy bee |
| 14:17 |
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oleonard |
ashimema++ # Release maintaining |
| 14:17 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard, some days that is really hard |
| 14:18 |
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oleonard |
True. The worst for me is when the will is there but any kind of focus eludes me. |
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ashimema |
Bzzzzzx |
| 14:31 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: It looks like that buzz turned into a snore at the end |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
100% yes that's what happened i reckon |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #80: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/80/ |
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| 14:53 |
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vero |
help please, some way to unify the Koha login with other software thanks |
| 14:53 |
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oleonard |
vero: This sounds like a complicated question. What other software are you wanting to integrate with? |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #74: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/74/ |
| 14:58 |
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vero |
Unify with your own software developed in php that does authentication by token |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #78: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/78/ |
| 15:03 |
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wizzyrea |
https://twitter.com/2nickels/s[…]25846655574605825 THIS IS A THING and I am very excited and amazed and amused by it |
| 15:03 |
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wizzyrea |
vero, if you're thinking like drupal |
| 15:03 |
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wizzyrea |
somewhere out there is a plugin that uses SIP to connect to it |
| 15:04 |
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wizzyrea |
Catalyst IT in NZ have done an implementation to tie drupal and Koha together |
| 15:04 |
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wizzyrea |
it uses SIP |
| 15:09 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard, you want a silly little thing? |
| 15:10 |
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oleonard |
Like a real-life Pokemon or something? |
| 15:10 |
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oleonard |
A porg? |
| 15:10 |
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wizzyrea |
hailey's done a patch for bug 22724 to remove the writeoff button if the permissions aren't there, but it leaves a weird gap in the table. if you want a probably simple thing, a follow up to make it purty might be nice? |
| 15:10 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22724 major, P5 - low, ---, hayleymapley, Needs Signoff , Staff without writeoff permissions have access to 'Write off selected' button on Pay Fines tab |
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wizzyrea |
the function looks good |
| 15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
i wish I had a porg for you |
| 15:12 |
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oleonard |
Yeah thems are good eatin' |
| 15:12 |
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wizzyrea |
no no youre not supposed to eat them |
| 15:12 |
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wizzyrea |
only for pats |
| 15:15 |
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Scott_ |
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask questions or if there is somewhere better. But, I was thrown into upgrading and partly managing our Koha instance which included upgrading Debian 6 to 9 and upgrading Koha from 3.18 to 18.11. After the upgrade I only have access to the OPAC screen and it's the system maintenance screen. I'm not sure how to get the staff page up, everything in the /koha-sites.conf looks correct AFAIK. |
| 15:17 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, welcome to our party |
| 15:17 |
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wizzyrea |
this is a great place to ask that |
| 15:17 |
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wizzyrea |
also that is a heroic effort |
| 15:17 |
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wizzyrea |
Scott_, ^ |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
so in your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/$koha-instance.conf |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
you should see 2 virtualhosts |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
the 2nd is the staff interface |
| 15:19 |
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Scott_ |
I see that. |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
if you go to the named host specified there |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
do you get the upgrade screen? |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
or the ip/port combination that will be indicated there |
| 15:20 |
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Scott_ |
When I try to go to the named host, the computer can't find it. which may be a problem with the hosts/dns settings? The server name is rmuohp-intra.myDNSname.org |
| 15:21 |
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Scott_ |
I have changed it in koha-sites.config but it doesn't reflect the change in apache sites, do I have to manually update it there instead of restarting apache? |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
right if you change the name for the host, you hve to change it in apache |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
and restart apache |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
koha-sites really only manages what happens when a new instance is created |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard, sorry I think I was looking at the wrong thing, though there is still a weird gap in the table when permissions for writeoff arent there |
| 15:26 |
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oleonard |
Where's the gap? |
| 15:26 |
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wizzyrea |
in the actions column |
| 15:26 |
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wizzyrea |
next to pay |
| 15:26 |
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wizzyrea |
it's wider than it needs to be |
| 15:26 |
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wizzyrea |
on accounting |
| 15:27 |
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oleonard |
I think that's just because of the width of the header |
| 15:27 |
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wizzyrea |
or it's not centered or idk |
| 15:27 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe it's dumb to worry about |
| 15:27 |
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wizzyrea |
i accept that as an answer |
| 15:30 |
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Scott_ |
@wizzyrea, I believe I had changed it correctly, but I can't browse to it still. I would think I should be able to browse to it using localhost:8081 on the machine. |
| 15:30 |
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huginn` |
Scott_: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 15:32 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
| 15:33 |
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wizzyrea |
what do you have in there for your named host? rmuohp-intra.myDNSname.org ? |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
in apache, not koha-sites |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
you can do things like |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
add |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
127.0.0.1 kohadev.myDNSname.org kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
to your /etc/hosts on the machine |
| 15:34 |
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wizzyrea |
and then you can use the name |
| 15:35 |
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wizzyrea |
we have a paste bin, paste.koha-community.org if you want to paste what's in your apache config |
| 15:35 |
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Scott_ |
It was rmuohp-intra.mydnsname.org and I had changed it to the correct domain name reflecting in koha-sites.config |
| 15:35 |
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Scott_ |
I'll paste it |
| 15:36 |
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wizzyrea |
that'll help :) |
| 15:44 |
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Scott_ |
I believe I shared that |
| 15:44 |
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wizzyrea |
hm you got the link? |
| 15:45 |
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Scott_ |
http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21 |
| 15:46 |
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wizzyrea |
and if you go to rmuohp-intra.rm.edu that doesn't work? |
| 15:46 |
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wizzyrea |
does it work if you get rid of the 8081, and replace it with 80 (and restart apache) |
| 15:47 |
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wizzyrea |
I mean, that is assuming that you've got that name pointed to the IP of this box |
| 15:47 |
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Scott_ |
I can get the ip to work on port 80 and that takes me to the system maintenace screen |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
right ok |
| 15:48 |
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Scott_ |
But if I use port 8081 I just get site can't be reached |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
so i'd change the 8081 to 80 and restart apache |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
and use the name |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
either by adding it to your local /etc/hosts |
| 15:48 |
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wizzyrea |
or updating the dns |
| 15:49 |
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wizzyrea |
(you'll need to update the name for the opac as well, that's the top vhost) |
| 15:49 |
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Scott_ |
I flipped the ports of the OPAC and Staff and it took me to the login screen |
| 15:50 |
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Scott_ |
using the ip and port 80 takes me to the login screen |
| 15:50 |
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wizzyrea |
yep so yeah |
| 15:51 |
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wizzyrea |
you just need to sort out your ports and your names and it all should work |
| 15:51 |
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wizzyrea |
you can use 80 for both |
| 15:51 |
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wizzyrea |
koha uses named vhosts |
| 15:51 |
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Scott_ |
Okay, I can try that. |
| 15:52 |
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wizzyrea |
so when you go to the intranet, you'd use the rmuohp-intra.rm.edu name |
| 15:52 |
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wizzyrea |
and for the opac |
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wizzyrea |
rmuohp.myDNSname.org |
| 15:53 |
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wizzyrea |
if you *had* to use IP |
| 15:53 |
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wizzyrea |
you'd want to use the ports |
| 15:54 |
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wizzyrea |
it could be that you just don't have 8081 enabled |
| 15:54 |
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wizzyrea |
in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 15:54 |
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wizzyrea |
i hope I'm making sense you seem like a fellow who mostly knows what you're doing |
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wizzyrea |
person |
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Scott_ |
Yeah you're making sense |
| 15:54 |
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wizzyrea |
great :D |
| 15:54 |
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Scott_ |
8081 isn't in ports.conf so I'll add it there |
| 15:55 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: i had a blank screen instead of the installer - missing rewrite rules for js/css (18.05 change i think) |
| 15:55 |
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cait |
could that be related to your problem? |
| 15:55 |
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cait |
they are not automatically added |
| 15:55 |
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wizzyrea |
it *could* be but they're getting the login screen |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
and it's more of a "not connected" |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
than a "blank" |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
it seems to be working when he flips the ports around |
| 15:56 |
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cait |
i had the login screen come up in between (plack/memcached restart) |
| 15:56 |
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cait |
just a thought o rmight be the next problem to run into |
| 15:56 |
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wizzyrea |
that may be the next problem hehe yeah exactly |
| 15:57 |
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Scott_ |
I added the port and guess what it fixed my problem. |
| 15:57 |
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Scott_ |
Who could've ever guessed /s |
| 15:57 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:59 |
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wizzyrea |
let us know if you get stuck again |
| 15:59 |
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Scott_ |
will do! |
| 15:59 |
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Scott_ |
I appreciate your help |
| 15:59 |
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wizzyrea |
np at all |
| 16:01 |
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wizzyrea |
ashimema, about? |
| 16:02 |
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wizzyrea |
for bug 22610 did you have some sip emulator commands you were using to test? |
| 16:02 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , SIP Payment Types should be moved out of accountype |
| 16:03 |
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wizzyrea |
not required obv I can build one up but if you have one handy that'd be nice |
| 16:15 |
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wizzyrea |
it's a good sign when they leave after you help |
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caroline_catlady |
wizzyrea++ |
| 16:19 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #81: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/81/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #79: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/79/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #266: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/266/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #75: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/75/ |
| 16:43 |
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caroline_catlady |
oh my god... There are more than 6000 loans on one card (in their old system, this client had a card for weeded items, probably because there was no such thing as a weeded status) and Koha won't delete them because they are loaned |
| 16:43 |
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caroline_catlady |
is there a way to batch return? |
| 16:43 |
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caroline_catlady |
or force deletion? |
| 16:44 |
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oleonard |
Delete the corresponding entries from the issues table maybe? |
| 16:44 |
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caroline_catlady |
I still want to keep a trace in deleteditems and old_issues just in case they need statistics |
| 16:45 |
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caroline_catlady |
Yeah I thought about deleting them right out of the table, but I'm afraid to forget something |
| 16:46 |
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oleonard |
Too bad talljoy isn't arround, seems like something she'd know |
| 16:46 |
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caroline_catlady |
At least it's only this much in the test database... in the live db, they only have around 1000 |
| 16:47 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #274: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/274/ |
| 16:48 |
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caroline_catlady |
I'll go have lunch... maybe I will find inspiration in my salad... |
| 16:48 |
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caroline_catlady |
meeting is in a hour right? |
| 16:53 |
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cait |
oh right |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #263: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/263/ |
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caroline_catlady |
back! |
| 17:23 |
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caroline_catlady |
unfortunately, no inspo in salads... |
| 17:24 |
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* oleonard |
prints that on a t-shirt |
| 17:26 |
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oleonard |
https://media.giphy.com/media/[…]QTR8QHm/giphy.gif |
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caroline_catlady |
XD |
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philor |
what's the right resolution for a bug that was fixed in passing by another bug, duplicate or worksforme? |
| 17:36 |
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caroline_catlady |
good question |
| 17:38 |
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caroline_catlady |
maybe ashimema would know |
| 17:39 |
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cait |
i have to run - but i will try to be on time for th emeeting, maybe 5 mins late |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
it's raining... eek. |
| 17:50 |
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tcohen |
philor: I'd say duplicate |
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philor |
thanks, will do |
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tcohen |
philor: you can actually add your explanation of why you think is a duplicate, for later reference |
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philor |
tcohen: yeah, I did, before I realized I had editbugs and could mark it myself :) |
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cait |
back |
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davidnind |
cait: your timing is excellent! |
| 18:01 |
|
* cait |
catches breath |
| 18:01 |
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cait |
kidclamp: ? |
| 18:01 |
|
* kidclamp |
waves |
| 18:01 |
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kidclamp |
hereish but can't chair |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
i can do it, but can i get some helpers? |
| 18:02 |
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kidclamp |
have to get kid in a bit |
| 18:02 |
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caroline_catlady |
I can co-chair |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
thx :) |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
give me a sec, just pulling up the agenda |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
hm, does the wiki work for everyone? |
| 18:03 |
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caroline_catlady |
not working for me |
| 18:03 |
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cait |
bad bad timing |
| 18:03 |
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cait |
gmcharlt? |
| 18:03 |
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wahanui |
gmcharlt is usually lurking much earlier.. hense ashimema's pointing him out |
| 18:03 |
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caroline_catlady |
ah it appeared |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
same |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
ok |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
let's start :) |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting 8 May 2019 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed May 8 18:04:47 2019 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:04 |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 18:04 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_8_may_2019' |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
#topic Introductions |
| 18:04 |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
please introduce yourself using #info |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
#chair caroline_catlady |
| 18:05 |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: cait caroline_catlady |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
#chair kidclamp |
| 18:05 |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: cait caroline_catlady kidclamp |
| 18:05 |
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Charles_Quain |
#info Charles Quain Interleaf Technology |
| 18:05 |
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caroline_catlady |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 18:05 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 18:05 |
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georgew |
#info George Williams - Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 18:05 |
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lisettelatah |
#info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Moscow, Idaho |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_8_May_2019 Today's agenda |
| 18:05 |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:05 |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
| 18:06 |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 18:06 |
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cait |
i will give it alittle more time |
| 18:07 |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
ping people that are lurking :) |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
khall: lukeG ? |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
ok, moving on in a second |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
#topic Announcements |
| 18:08 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
anyone? :) |
| 18:09 |
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georgew |
koha-US is accepting proposals for our conference in September |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
#info koha-US is accepting proposals for its conference in September |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
thx! |
| 18:09 |
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caroline_catlady |
argh you out-info'd me ;) |
| 18:09 |
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georgew |
And I'm trying to post the link but I can't find it AAAA |
| 18:10 |
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lisettelatah |
#link https://docs.google.com/forms/[…]wform?usp=sf_link |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:10 |
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georgew |
Thanks lisettelatah |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
moving on! |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
#topic Updates on releases |
| 18:10 |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
Rmaints? |
| 18:10 |
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wahanui |
Rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
RM? |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
kidclamp? |
| 18:10 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
#info We have reached feature freeze and are approaching feature slush on 10 May |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
i hope things are on track ;) |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
moving on? |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
ah |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
sec |
| 18:13 |
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cait |
#link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_18_12_00.md pre-release notes for 19.05 |
| 18:13 |
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cait |
#info Help needed to add more info to the release notes using the notes field in bugzilla for release notes |
| 18:13 |
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cait |
hope that makes sense |
| 18:14 |
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cait |
moving on! |
| 18:14 |
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cait |
#topic KohaCon19 |
| 18:14 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon19 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:14 |
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cait |
Charles_Quain? |
| 18:14 |
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Charles_Quain |
All going well |
| 18:14 |
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Charles_Quain |
#info 187 delegates signed up |
| 18:15 |
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Charles_Quain |
#info all speaking slots and workshops filled |
| 18:15 |
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Charles_Quain |
#info Huge thanks to our donors |
| 18:15 |
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cait |
nice :) |
| 18:15 |
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Charles_Quain |
finalising the Culture Day outings this week |
| 18:16 |
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Charles_Quain |
looking forward to seeing everyone in Dublin in 2 weeks |
| 18:16 |
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kidclamp |
ah yes, things are cool, fix the bugs, be execellent to eac hother |
| 18:16 |
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cait |
heh |
| 18:17 |
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Charles_Quain |
if anyone has questions around the wider Dublin stuff, feel free to email me directly. |
| 18:17 |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Kohacon19/Social Info about people arriving/leaving and pubs |
| 18:17 |
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cait |
also add yourself if you want to :) |
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| 18:18 |
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Charles_Quain |
I put a few names on the pub list, but didnt want to do too many in case I gave a bad impression of my social life! |
| 18:18 |
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cait |
of living in Dublin? :) |
| 18:18 |
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ashimema_ |
grr, seems my irc connection is dead again..! |
| 18:18 |
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Charles_Quain |
some great pubs to be sampled. |
| 18:19 |
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ashimema_ |
sorry I missed most of the meeting.. was sitting waiting for it to begin! |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
ashimemaanything to add to Kohacon? |
| 18:19 |
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ashimema_ |
no idea what's been said |
| 18:19 |
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ashimema_ |
literally just joined |
| 18:19 |
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ashimema_ |
:( |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
anything about the workshops maybe? |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
we heard all slots are filled |
| 18:20 |
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Charles_Quain |
There is a google form for those who want to sign up - sent out via eventbrite. Give me a sec and I'll send the link |
| 18:20 |
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ashimema_ |
Nothing really to add to that |
| 18:21 |
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ashimema_ |
Workshops attendance looks like a nice spread. |
| 18:21 |
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caroline_catlady |
what if we can't decide? |
| 18:21 |
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Charles_Quain |
https://forms.gle/KrHt5FxwvWt9jm8c7 |
| 18:21 |
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caroline_catlady |
will we be refused at the door? |
| 18:21 |
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Charles_Quain |
Not at all. |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:21 |
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Charles_Quain |
The doorman can be bribed! |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
i might switch if the technical ones are too hard... :) |
| 18:22 |
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* cait |
will bring extra chocolate |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
did you plan for a sweets table? |
| 18:22 |
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caroline_catlady |
bringing maple candies for bribes |
| 18:22 |
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Charles_Quain |
Well, Interleaf is famous for giving away small jars of jelly beans at conferences... |
| 18:22 |
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ashimema_ |
It's just so we can guestimate the numbers and allocate rooms suitably.. change welcome on the day.. I may even shift the program around a little if I get the overwhelming feeling that two really popular one's overlap ;) |
| 18:23 |
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cait |
cool |
| 18:23 |
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cait |
ok, moving on? |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
might on longer torture the ones not being able to attend |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
not longer... |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
#topic Elections! |
| 18:24 |
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Topic for #koha is now Elections! (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
no veto, so moving on :) |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
main part of today's meeting |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
I see we had some last minute additions, very happy :) |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.11 Proposals for 19.11 release team |
| 18:25 |
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tcohen |
\o/ |
| 18:25 |
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wizzyrea |
#Liz Rea, doer of things |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
main event |
| 18:25 |
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tcohen |
can I veto the absense of rangi on the QA team? |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
please review the page and ask any questions you have |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
tcohen: shame on me for not noticing until now he had escaped! |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
i think we can still fix that a little later |
| 18:26 |
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tcohen |
we can volunteer him of course ;-) |
| 18:26 |
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ashimema_ |
rangi on qa++ |
| 18:27 |
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Joubu |
Previous RMs are part of the QA team de facto, iirc :) |
| 18:27 |
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ashimema_ |
confident we can bend his arm |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
also, if you want to sign up and haven't yet, please do now :) |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
and give us a little heads up so we can hit refresh |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
hola Yonatán |
| 18:27 |
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ashimema_ |
oh really Joubu, I wasn't aware of that one |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
not sure if it's documented |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
i htink they are part of security group |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
not sure about qa |
| 18:28 |
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wizzyrea |
well if it isn't a rule it should be :P |
| 18:28 |
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wizzyrea |
#info Liz Rea, doer of things |
| 18:28 |
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cait |
any questions? :) |
| 18:28 |
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cait |
someone still not sure who needs a little encouragement? |
| 18:28 |
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wizzyrea |
this all seems fine to me? |
| 18:28 |
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cait |
ashimema: shibboleth? ;) |
| 18:28 |
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ashimema_ |
happy to be cait |
| 18:29 |
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cait |
ok, my plan is to vote for the whole team in one big vote |
| 18:29 |
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cait |
if that receives no veto |
| 18:29 |
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wizzyrea |
fine by me |
| 18:29 |
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caroline_catlady |
+1 |
| 18:29 |
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ashimema_ |
I mostly went for RM and didn't think it hugely appropriate to do other things at the same time that may conflict.. |
| 18:29 |
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thd |
++ |
| 18:29 |
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ashimema_ |
+1 on whole team vote |
| 18:29 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
| 18:29 |
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cait |
#startvote Shall we vote on the whole release team 19.11 in one big vote as listed on the wiki page? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 18:29 |
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huginn` |
Begin voting on: Shall we vote on the whole release team 19.11 in one big vote as listed on the wiki page? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 18:29 |
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huginn` |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 18:30 |
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thd |
#vote ye |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
ashimema: i kind of forgot :) |
| 18:30 |
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huginn` |
thd: ye is not a valid option. Valid options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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thd |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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caroline_catlady |
this is a vote on the vote? |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
yep |
| 18:30 |
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lisettelatah |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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caroline_catlady |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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georgew |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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cait |
vote on the method... vote vote next :) |
| 18:30 |
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davidnind |
#vote yes |
| 18:30 |
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tcohen |
#vote yes |
| 18:31 |
|
cait |
5 |
| 18:31 |
|
cait |
4 |
| 18:31 |
|
cait |
3 |
| 18:31 |
|
cait |
2 |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
1 |
| 18:31 |
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ashimema_ |
#vote yes |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
... |
| 18:31 |
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Joubu |
#vote yes |
| 18:31 |
|
cait |
#endvote |
| 18:31 |
|
huginn` |
Voted on "Shall we vote on the whole release team 19.11 in one big vote as listed on the wiki page?" Results are |
| 18:31 |
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huginn` |
yes (10): Joubu, georgew, caroline_catlady, cait, lisettelatah, davidnind, wizzyrea, tcohen, thd, ashimema_ |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
ok, preparing the vote vote sec |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
hm, i might need help to phrase a question |
| 18:32 |
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Joubu |
questions about the proposal, maybe? :) |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
Accept the whole team documented as at whatever the time is now UTC at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.11 |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
i#ve asked for questions before :) |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: that's not a question :) |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
the voting thing wants something that ends with ? |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
oh I thought you were asking for the question for the vote |
| 18:33 |
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Joubu |
sorry, did not see it, I have a question then |
| 18:33 |
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wizzyrea |
well put a ? on the end |
| 18:33 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 18:33 |
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wizzyrea |
but it might mess up the url |
| 18:33 |
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cait |
Joubu first |
| 18:33 |
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Joubu |
I'd like to know how Martin plans to "introduce more collaboration between parties" |
| 18:33 |
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ashimema_ |
I had hoped to already mail a few company directors but time got away from me |
| 18:34 |
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ashimema_ |
my hope is to grab a chat with support company purse string holders and get an idea of where they're wanting to focus efforts the next couple of cycles.. spot overlaps and try to get them to agree to time them nicely to collaborate rather than us all being out of sync |
| 18:34 |
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ashimema_ |
that's an initial plan anyway.. |
| 18:35 |
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Joubu |
Also, no more "refactoring" or "improve unit tests" bullets on the list. Which means you think we reached a goal already? |
| 18:36 |
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ashimema_ |
No, I hope to continue to encourage that.. I just forgot to mention it.. the 'improve unit tests' I feel is a given at all times now |
| 18:36 |
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Joubu |
ashimema_: ok good plan, just remember it is what I tried :) I hope you will have more chance than me ;) |
| 18:36 |
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ashimema_ |
we're in better habbits as a community (though we need to keep striving for improvements) |
| 18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
well continuous improvement is an excellent goal to have |
| 18:36 |
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caroline_catlady |
what a great community we have :) |
| 18:36 |
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cait |
also please... no big big patches |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
small steps |
| 18:37 |
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Joubu |
well, it depends on several things, but most of the time yes, no big patches :) |
| 18:37 |
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ashimema_ |
those are all general things I think we as a team are looking for.. I am happy to mention them specifically though |
| 18:37 |
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Joubu |
thanks ashimema_ :) |
| 18:38 |
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tcohen |
ashimema++ |
| 18:38 |
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ashimema_ |
I'd say "If you're looking to do a big patch, get a team behind you before submitting it" |
| 18:38 |
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ashimema_ |
meaning, get a SO and QA person on side first and work with them whilst writing it rather than having it all land as a surprise |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
that's a good approach |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
and be ready for your inevitable followups |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
and your bug fixing |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
don't drop it and disappear |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
and write some helpful docs on how to use X :) |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
we got our wish list, now just have to work towards it |
| 18:39 |
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Joubu |
or... wait for it pushed and disappear |
| 18:39 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah that's frustrating |
| 18:39 |
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* ashimema_ |
suggests wizzyrea for a tame SO person.. and I'm sure almost anyone QA wise would be keen to be involved in such bugs early |
| 18:39 |
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wizzyrea |
haha you called me tame. |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
ok you're right |
| 18:40 |
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ashimema_ |
tame as in friendly ;( |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
fine. |
| 18:40 |
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ashimema_ |
;) |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 18:40 |
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ashimema_ |
even |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
but yes I am friendly and also opinionated. |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
<.< |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
opinions are good, base for discussion |
| 18:41 |
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wizzyrea |
but anyway vote nao? |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
Joubu: are you satisfied with the answers? |
| 18:41 |
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Joubu |
I will ask more later, do not worry ;) |
| 18:41 |
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Joubu |
yes, let's vote! |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
#startvote Do you elect the release team for 19.11 as listed on the wiki at this time? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 18:41 |
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huginn` |
Begin voting on: Do you elect the release team for 19.11 as listed on the wiki at this time? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 18:41 |
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huginn` |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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caroline_catlady |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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davidnind |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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lisettelatah |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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Joubu |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:42 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
| 18:42 |
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wizzyrea |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #76: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/76/ |
| 18:42 |
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thd |
#vote yes |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
I am especially happy about the new names on this list! |
| 18:42 |
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georgew |
#vote yes |
| 18:43 |
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ashimema_ |
#vote yes |
| 18:43 |
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tcohen |
#vote yes |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
giving it another moment :) |
| 18:44 |
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Joubu |
koha-jenkins and wahanui take part in the vote! |
| 18:44 |
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wizzyrea |
i love that they have a wee bot conversation |
| 18:44 |
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wizzyrea |
whenever the build is fixed. |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
#endvote |
| 18:44 |
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huginn` |
Voted on "Do you elect the release team for 19.11 as listed on the wiki at this time?" Results are |
| 18:44 |
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huginn` |
yes (10): Joubu, georgew, caroline_catlady, cait, lisettelatah, davidnind, wizzyrea, ashimema_, thd, tcohen |
| 18:44 |
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ashimema_ |
oh.. I missed that there are no wiki curators this time around.. interesting |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
congratulations everyone! we got a new release team! |
| 18:45 |
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ashimema_ |
:) |
| 18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 18:45 |
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Joubu |
congrats ashimema! And good luck! ;) |
| 18:45 |
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ashimema_ |
Thanks mate :) |
| 18:45 |
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tcohen |
this will be great, ashimema |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
ashimema_++ :) |
| 18:46 |
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tcohen |
ashimema++ |
| 18:46 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's gonna be fun :D |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
it's named team for a reason :) |
| 18:46 |
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wizzyrea |
away just a minute |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
moving on :) |
| 18:47 |
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* ashimema_ |
is looking forward to it all now.. I feel we've got a a great team there |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
#topic Time for next meeting |
| 18:47 |
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Topic for #koha is now Time for next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 8 May 2019) |
| 18:48 |
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cait |
i think we always do first wednesday of the month |
| 18:48 |
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cait |
June 5 |
| 18:48 |
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cait |
which time? |
| 18:48 |
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thd |
almost always |
| 18:48 |
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cait |
may 1 was a holida yin a lot of places |
| 18:49 |
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thd |
Yes, holidays and other major events should be avoided. |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
can someone help with the next time slot? |
| 18:49 |
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| 18:49 |
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ashimema_ |
works for me |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
it looks like april had 14 utc |
| 18:49 |
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caroline_catlady |
is there a rotation for times? |
| 18:50 |
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* ashimema_ |
quickly converts that to bst |
| 18:50 |
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thd |
Yes, 14 UTC has been used recently. |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
4 pm here |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
shoudl be 3pm uk? |
| 18:51 |
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ashimema_ |
yup, 3pm |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
good? |
| 18:51 |
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thd |
I am uncertain whether we have had drift from preferences as summer time winter time clocks have changed. |
| 18:51 |
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ashimema_ |
that's OK for me.. though I'll be coming from the mobile phone for some of it (school pickup time) |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
i think one hour earlier might be slightly better for catching people at work |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
hm it will be your first RM general :) |
| 18:52 |
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ashimema_ |
indeed |
| 18:52 |
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ashimema_ |
could be fun |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
would be one hour earlier work better? |
| 18:52 |
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ashimema_ |
it would for me |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
everyon ok with 13 UTC? |
| 18:52 |
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caroline_catlady |
+1 |
| 18:53 |
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ashimema_ |
:) |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
#info Next meeting: 5 June 2019, 13 UTC |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
#endmeeting |
| 18:53 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
| 18:53 |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Wed May 8 18:53:08 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 18:53 |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-08-18.04.html |
| 18:53 |
|
huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-05-08-18.04.txt |
| 18:53 |
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huginn` |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]08-18.04.log.html |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
thx for attending everyone! |
| 18:53 |
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davidnind |
cait++ |
| 18:53 |
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ashimema_ |
cait++ |
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| 18:53 |
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lisettelatah |
cait++ |
| 18:53 |
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ashimema_ |
apologies for the really late arrival there guys.. silly IRC client faliure |
| 18:53 |
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* ashimema_ |
goes back to read the minutes and see what he missed |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
it happens :) |
| 18:54 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:54 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
| 18:54 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #80: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/80/ |
| 18:54 |
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ashimema_ |
awesome thing to finish the day on there koha-jenkins :) |
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| 18:55 |
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tcohen |
cait++ |
| 18:56 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:56 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
| 18:56 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #82: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/82/ |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
koha-jenkins: is celebrating |
| 18:57 |
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koha-jenkins |
cait did you mean me? Unknown command 'is' |
| 18:57 |
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koha-jenkins |
Use '!koha-jenkins help' to get help! |
| 19:03 |
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wizzyrea |
ashimema_, about |
| 19:03 |
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ashimema_ |
was about to step away.. |
| 19:03 |
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ashimema_ |
but fire away |
| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
I wanted to test bug 22610 wondering if you had a sip string |
| 19:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , SIP Payment Types should be moved out of accountype |
| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
and how do you get Pay01 entries in your DB |
| 19:04 |
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wizzyrea |
I promise I won't bother after this lol |
| 19:04 |
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ashimema_ |
ohh.. fun |
| 19:04 |
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ashimema_ |
erm |
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| 19:05 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. testing SIP sucks |
| 19:05 |
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ashimema |
I'm afraid I don't really have anything to hand :( |
| 19:05 |
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wizzyrea |
well a sip string or a sipemulator thing |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
it's ok I can make one up |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
i just thought if you had one from when you were developing that it would be handy |
| 19:07 |
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ashimema |
basically.. SIP transactions contain a type string somewhere which is 01, 02 or 03 in 99% of cases (or missing or another numeric in others).. it's that string and it used to just get concatenated onto 'Pay' |
| 19:07 |
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ashimema |
this is one of those where I mostly coded it by reading the logic.. I did get colin_c to give it a quick once over and he seemed confident (and Kyle has also taken a quick look too) |
| 19:08 |
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ashimema |
but yeah.. I'm afraid I haven't got an emulator to hand at all :( |
| 19:08 |
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ashimema |
Kyle might be a good bet? |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
right, oki so they get in there via SIP |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
I see |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
that's alright I think maybe I can work something out. We really ought to have a library of these things. |
| 19:09 |
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ashimema |
thanks for looking at it.. it'll be another nice little step to having clearer codes and translatability and things |
| 19:09 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I agree |
| 19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
the emulator in misc/sip_cli_emulator.pl does work well for testing |
| 19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
it's just fiddly. :) |
| 19:10 |
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* ashimema |
now realises he didn't hit those patches with the test suit.. wonder if we test that area properly already.. I'll need to write a test |
| 19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
| 19:10 |
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* ashimema |
just failed qa on his own patch.. grr.. curse my haist |
| 19:11 |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
| 19:11 |
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wizzyrea |
well if it makes you feel better |
| 19:11 |
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wizzyrea |
they currently pass :P |
| 19:11 |
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ashimema |
it would be great to have some feedback/user testing.. but I will certainly write a test for it now I've spotted that it's not tested |
| 19:11 |
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ashimema |
oops :S |
| 19:12 |
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* wizzyrea |
gets out the wet spaghetti noodle for your flogging |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
| 19:12 |
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ashimema |
right.. best dissapear for a bit now I'm afraid.. other half would like to see me again this evening.. ;) |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
no flogging |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
yes |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: maybe you could continue testing? tests could be added later |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
I'd be happy to |
| 19:12 |
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wizzyrea |
unit tests are great but I feel my role is more to be concerned by the function ^.^ |
| 19:13 |
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wizzyrea |
unless the unit tests aren't passing then I'd kick it out before even tryin git |
| 19:13 |
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wizzyrea |
there are bigger brains up the chain from me to say "hey that code is dumb" |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
that' sok :) |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
i'll actually try to encourage librarians in that way at kohacon |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
to care about functionality and tell us what concerns them, let others worry about code |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
(testing workshop) |
| 19:14 |
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wizzyrea |
well it feels, i think, more approachable that way |
| 19:15 |
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indradg |
cait++ |
| 19:19 |
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ashimema |
Testing workshop is the second most popular workshop btw Cait.. after elastic search |
| 19:19 |
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ashimema |
Your gonna have loads of eager volunteers. 😊 |
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| 19:31 |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema, I seem to remember you wrote a wiki page about the development process? Or was it the development cycle? |
| 19:32 |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm looking for an explanation on how a request goes from a new bugzilla to being pushed to master |
| 19:33 |
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caroline_catlady |
ah found it https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]elopment_workflow |
| 19:33 |
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ashimema |
That rings a bell |
| 19:34 |
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ashimema |
Oh, nice page. |
| 19:35 |
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ashimema |
Not mine,. Though I vaguely render writing something similar.. that one looks great though. |
| 19:36 |
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ashimema |
I don't think I've seen a QA branch pushed in years though so that syrup can probably go |
| 19:36 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah no |
| 19:36 |
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wizzyrea |
that was an experiment that kinda went by the wayside |
| 19:36 |
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wizzyrea |
it was supposed to be a way to get bigger patches in |
| 19:37 |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: cait and rangi |
| 19:37 |
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wizzyrea |
it kinda morphed into the topic experts thing |
| 19:37 |
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caroline_catlady |
hello! |
| 19:38 |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema, wizzyrea ok so I'll edit that |
| 19:38 |
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caroline_catlady |
it's juste step 3 that's got to go? |
| 19:39 |
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wizzyrea |
sure, the branches thing can go away |
| 19:39 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 19:39 |
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caroline_catlady |
sending this over to a writer for an article so it has to be correct :) |
| 19:39 |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: cait's presentation from KohaCon18 is great as well https://drive.google.com/file/[…]/view?usp=sharing |
| 19:40 |
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caroline_catlady |
thx davidnind! |
| 19:43 |
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ashimema |
wizzyrea ++ thanks for the feedback.. certainly looks like I've got something wrong.. will hit it first thing tomorrow |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
i don't know if it's *wrong* |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
but libraries will definitely want to know if a payment was cash or card or whatever |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
also sip cli emulator :) |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
that's the kind of thing i was hoping for ^.^ |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
sorry, long phone call |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
reading back later |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
ashimema: that's a little scarry :) i hope to recruit some more helpers |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
uh any question for me left? :) |
| 19:47 |
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wizzyrea |
do you have enough chocolate |
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caroline_catlady |
never enough chocolate, what kind of question is that? |
| 19:48 |
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wizzyrea |
correctprocedure |
| 19:48 |
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caroline_catlady |
and never enough ice cream! |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
I am spoiled on chocolate, nz has the best chocolate |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry germany, it's true. |
| 19:49 |
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caroline_catlady |
I thought it was belgium |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
or belgium |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
whatever, nz chocolate = best. |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
| 19:49 |
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caroline_catlady |
I remember having the worst tummy ache after going to a chocolate factory in belgium |
| 19:50 |
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caroline_catlady |
They had FREE samples of EVERYTHING!! |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
davidnind: what did i do now? |
| 19:50 |
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wizzyrea |
be awesome. per usual. |
| 19:51 |
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wizzyrea |
caroline_catlady, that would certainly cause me to get a chocolate tummy ache |
| 19:51 |
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wizzyrea |
but i might be thinking/saying "I regret nothing!!!!" |
| 19:52 |
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wizzyrea |
https://media.giphy.com/media/[…]5FwPpFC/giphy.gif |
| 19:52 |
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caroline_catlady |
lol same!! |
| 19:53 |
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caroline_catlady |
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/i[…]0/257/271/a8d.jpg |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
bahaha |
| 19:53 |
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davidnind |
rangi: ? (might have accidentally done something when posting link to presentation) |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
you aren't on the qa team list anymore |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
and they were wanting to twist your arm to be on it |
| 19:54 |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: you pinged me cait and rangi earlier |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
well they do sell german chocolate in nz.... so |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
naw... not twist his arm |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
just auto-put him on qa as formar RM |
| 19:56 |
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davidnind |
oops! not sure how I did that (plus y computer froze up earlier as well):-D |
| 19:56 |
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davidnind |
y = my |
| 19:59 |
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caroline_catlady |
no prob :) |
| 19:59 |
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ashimema |
Mine too.. right as the meeting started |
| 20:00 |
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ashimema |
Yes... rangi we want you for QA team.. 😉 |
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caroline_catlady |
I saw that a bunch of ppl got kicked out during the meeting too |
| 20:01 |
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* cait |
has to go out into the rain to bring hte garbage out *grumbes* |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
brb |
| 20:01 |
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ashimema |
For me it was matrix.org having more problems.. their oftc IRC bridge went down.. seems I found a whole in their active monitoring too |
| 20:01 |
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ashimema |
Shame. Matrix used to be soo reliable for me |
| 20:02 |
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wizzyrea |
ok kiddo pickup time |
| 20:02 |
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wizzyrea |
afk |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
ashimema: i thought i might sit this cycle out, first one in years (ever?) that i havent had a role |
| 20:02 |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady cait: has chocolate https://photos.app.goo.gl/tmn3AXFa96yUQuGB9 |
| 20:03 |
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* cait |
pouts because he fled her team |
| 20:03 |
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rangi |
hehe |
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cait |
ooooh dark salted caramel.... |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
the jelly tip thing looks interesting |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
i have made a stash too.... special requests still possible :) |
| 20:04 |
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caroline_catlady |
same here! |
| 20:04 |
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caroline_catlady |
I was thinking maple butter candies (if I can find any) or maple sugar cones, and ketchup chips |
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rangi |
ohhh now davidnind has all that, im gonna have to think up something different! |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: you're leaving soon right? |
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ashimema |
No worries rangi, we were just all surprised.. |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
ill probably just try to write some code and do some signoffs :) |
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* ashimema |
now contemplates whether that's a vote of confidence or a hands up in the air despair.. hehe |
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ashimema |
Cool, 😊. Sometimes it's really nice to be able to concentrate on that stuff again. |
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rangi |
also id like to do some stuff with the manual to get translations being pulled nightly etc |
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cait |
cool :) |
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ashimema |
I hugely enjoyed my hiatus whist on rebus:list and came back so much happier and appreciative of Koha as a whole.. though also occasionally driven to moments of despair still too.. but things certainly seem to be improving rapidly now |
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cait |
reminds me.. i forwarded you an email from bernardo |
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cait |
i am a little lost there, can you take the ball? |
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rangi |
yep ill read it tonight |
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ashimema |
Awesome. |
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cait |
sent to work email i think, because from work |
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ashimema |
I never replied to your thread cait, wasn't ignoring it. Was just still contemplating it. |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: leaving this Sunday evening, doing this tour before kohacon https://www.rabbies.com/en/ire[…]o-west-5-day-tour |
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davidnind |
rangi: there is never enough chocolate... |
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ashimema |
Very cool davidnind. Sure it'll be lovely |
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rangi |
davidnind: true :) |
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caroline_catlady |
nice! |
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caroline_catlady |
Ireland and UK have been on my bucket list forever. One week in Dublin is a start |
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cait |
ashimema: he was asking if sending the patches as emaisl would help i think |
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cait |
to automate |
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rangi |
davidnind: that tour looks great! I'll be looking forward to seeing the photos |
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davidnind |
rangi: will see what I can do, loving Alex's photos from his trip. |
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rangi |
yeah :) |
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cait |
i was in dublin in tenth grade... 16 or so? |
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cait |
we weren't allowed in any pubs :) |
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cait |
was still fun |
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rangi |
heh |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #275: FIXED in 18 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/275/ |
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Joubu |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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Joubu |
ha! I knew it! |
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rangi |
heh |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #267: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/267/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #264: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/264/ |
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caroline_catlady |
I'll be off the grid until (and during) kohacon send me an email if you need me |
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cait |
oh missed caroline |
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cait |
Joubu++ thx for bug 11853 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11853 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot clear date of birth via OPAC patron update |
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Joubu |
it was tricky! |
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cait |
I believe you, I looked it and didn#t come with an idea |
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cait |
it's clear what goes wrong... but was not sure how to fix |
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wizzyrea |
and that's signed off |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22724 hm how are we feeling about her followup here |
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huginn` |
Bug 22724: major, P5 - low, ---, hayleymapley, Needs Signoff , Staff without writeoff permissions have access to 'Write off selected' button on Pay Fines tab |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not sure |
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wizzyrea |
kidclamp ^ is that what you had in mind (it's not exactly what I had in mind but might suffice...) |
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