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@later tell eythian http://nerdist.com/babymetal-i[…]mated-web-series/ I know how much you love them ^.^ |
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wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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dcook |
The world is a strange place |
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wizzyrea |
lol why |
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dcook |
Babymetal just in general :p |
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dcook |
And really just everything :p |
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^.^ |
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wahanui |
hola, reiveune |
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waves |
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asgeirr |
Hi |
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asgeirr |
Is there any way I can set up Koha so that search for an ISBN _without_ seperators matches a record where ISBN is registered _with_ seperators? |
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So, I have a MARC record has ISBN "978-1-84739-407-1" in 020, and I want to retrieve it by using a barcode scanner that enters "9781847394071" |
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asgeirr: I imagine so |
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dcook |
Does that not happen aleady? |
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dcook |
Also, where are you searching? |
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@later tell khall i've just seen your entry in the hk16 topics. Could you please try to provide a complete example of React before the hk? |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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asgeirr |
dcook: Free text catalogue search in staff interface. Also qualified search 'nb:9781847394071' or advanced search with '9781847394071' in ISBN field misses |
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morning #koha |
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asgeirr: That's interesting |
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dcook |
You should ask again now and in a few more minutes as more Europeans come online :) |
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dcook |
Here in Australia, it's time for me to head hooome |
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drojf |
the question i'd like to be asked is "would you like some coffee" |
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drojf |
i hope it was about that |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I always forget to offer as I don't drink coffee O_O |
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eythian |
@later tell wizzyrea so, like, https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]NYdaU8TLHxN3aXfxH |
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eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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waves to eythian |
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And I'm off |
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eythian |
hi dcook |
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bye dcook |
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drojf |
hi eythian and gaetan_B |
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who is going to do an introduction to the french language before or at the hackfest btw? |
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drojf |
or is "bonjour" enough? |
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bonjour should be more than enough :) |
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gaetan_B |
"un pastis s'il vous plaît" might be helpful too ;) |
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eythian |
it was all s'il te plaît when I was there :) |
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eythian |
I learnt how to order lunch in french very quickly. |
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eythian |
(or is that a formal/informal distinction?) |
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eythian |
also, hi drojf and gaetan_B |
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yes it's more formal with "vous", i wouldn't order at a restaurant using "tu" but that's probably just me being a parisian snob |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
i understand the pastis sentence. that means i am ready to go \o/ |
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Joubu |
s/pastis/verre de vin blanc |
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drojf: for you |
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drojf |
thanks :D i still try to figure out what alcohol base is used for pastis |
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drojf: wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastis#Composition |
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drojf |
"base alcohol" could be anything |
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drojf |
that is the part i'd like to know ;) |
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Joubu |
in French "alcool neutre d'origine agricole" |
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drojf |
yep. could be anything |
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Joubu |
which would mean something like "neutral alcohol from agricultur" |
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yes |
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yes :) |
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eythian |
wahanui: crash is <reply>https://media.giphy.com/media/[…]St5vNoQ/giphy.gif |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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i think i asked the german importer about it and never got an answer |
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drojf |
or i was just planning to |
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Joubu |
I don't really understand why everybody is asking about Elastic Search, but nobody wants to test the only feature ready to test on bugzilla... |
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drojf |
heh |
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drojf |
(for me it's no time :/ ) |
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drojf |
i postpone everythingâ„¢ to the hackfest |
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Joubu |
I don't really understand why everybody is talking about Elastic Search but nobody wants to fix the ES issues, like a quite important one: the indexes are not present in the DB for new installs... |
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Joubu |
well, I guess people are expecting to me to fix them |
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drojf |
you can't fix and test and qa |
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drojf |
you should be cloned. that would solve everything |
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A funny fix would be to make it dependent on the feature :D |
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mtj |
hi #koha |
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mtj |
hey Joubu, i was testing 17196... |
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mtj |
..i hit a little problem around editing/saving a bib |
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mtj |
other than that, it seems to be working really well :0) |
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Joubu |
mtj: what is the problem? |
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wahanui |
https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
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mtj |
i used Marcel's 16733 patch to test the repo's koha-rebuild-zebra |
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mtj |
hmm, no saving functionality, when using the marc editor |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi should not we move Koha/ElasticSearch/Indexer.pm to Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/ ? |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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mtj |
the 'prove' tests all work, after the patchs are applied |
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mtj |
.. and i notice some of those ./t tests have ModBiblio() calls |
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Joubu: that probably should be renamed, yeah |
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eythian |
moved, rather |
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eythian |
iirc it was just where it went to start with and it never got shifted. |
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eythian: ok thanks for the confirmation |
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mtj: do you get DBIx::Class::Schema::source(): Can't find source for BiblioMetadata at Koha/Objects.pm line 266? |
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you need to rebuild the schema files |
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mtj |
Joubu, yeah, i have already done that step |
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np, i will add my info to the BZ |
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Joubu |
eythian: our QA script raises a spelling error: Sheat ==> Sheath, sheet, cheat ;) |
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Joubu |
eythian: do you know what is the correct spelling for ES? ElasticSearch or Elasticsearch? |
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Joubu |
it seems that elastic.co uses Elasticsearch |
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Joubu |
but Catmandu uses ElasticSearch |
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eythian |
Used to be ES, now it's Es I think |
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eythian |
Joubu: your script needs some QA :) |
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eythian |
PAUSE doesn't handle changing capitalisation well at all too, I think they tried to rename it but it caused problems, or something along those lines |
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mtj |
hiya eythian, hope you are doing well over there :) |
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eythian |
Hi mtj. Yeah, it's good here :) |
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Joubu |
eythian: could I get your opinion on bug 5670 comment 66? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Signed Off , Housebound Readers Module |
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Joubu |
additional almost always null columns vs DB schema normalisation |
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mtj |
eythian: same old, same old, back here in wgtn... including the weather :p |
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eythian |
I tend to go for normalisation, keeping fairly separate concerns in separate places. |
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eythian |
mtj: heh, I think summer is about to run out here too, though it's been unseasonably warm this month so far. |
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Joubu |
eythian: yep same for me, thanks (again) |
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eythian |
NP :) |
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drojf |
is there a secret place to set up actual classifications in koha that i am missing? or can i just enter names for classifications and filing rules, but not define anything? |
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drojf |
i remember diving into some file that probably was DDC and had mappings. but that was years ago and would have required hacking your own file back then. at least as i understood it |
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drojf |
so i wonder if i miss something obvious ;) |
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mtj |
peeps, im off to bed |
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Joubu: i left some info on the marcxml bug, hope it makes sense |
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Joubu |
mtj: thx |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15903 - Remove use of recordpayment in paycollect.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f5b23efcf7298b3d9> / Bug 15902 [QA Followup] - Use Koha::Patrons instead of Koha::Borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f4b897c5c82798508> / Bug 15902 - Remove use of recordpayment in process_koc.pl <http://git.koha-commun |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15899 - Remove C4::Accounts::recordpayment <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7a0c8b2c5ac7198f> / Bug 15899 - Fix up unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0deefcf93c9e204ae> |
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oleonard |
Oh this is new. Someone put in the phone number field of this patron record: "phonenumber" |
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drojf |
makes sense |
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oleonard |
That's even better than my previous favorite: "Same as above." Like, you have just typed more characters than you would have if you'd just Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from above. |
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drojf |
lol |
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kidclamp |
mveron++ |
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drojf |
@seen mveron |
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huginn |
drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mveron> Hi #koha |
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drojf |
:/ |
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drojf |
working in the underground |
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drojf |
mveron++ |
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kidclamp |
heh |
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rsantellan |
good morning #koha |
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Joubu |
rsantellan: Hi! Are you still looking at ES patches to test? :) |
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Joubu |
tcohen: hi! |
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Joubu |
Does ES work with kohadevbox? |
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rsantellan |
Joubu: yes, I have working now with 1.7 but 2.4 is a welcome change |
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Joubu |
rsantellan: bug 14899 is waiting for testers for months. If you are willing to test it, you are more than welcome :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search |
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rsantellan |
Joubu: I will try to check it out, did I need to install another dependencies? |
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Joubu |
rsantellan: you will need to apply the patches from bugs listed in the "depends on" field |
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rsantellan |
okay |
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tcohen |
morning |
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tcohen |
Joubu: hehe |
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Joubu |
Does ES work with kohadevbox? |
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tcohen |
it should |
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Joubu |
tcohen: I really don't know how it could actually |
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Joubu |
I have just fixed the installer issue this morning |
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tcohen |
kohadevbox takes care of having ES available, and the relevant entry in koha-conf.xml |
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tcohen |
if it doesn't work, it wouldn't be a kohadevbox specific issue IMHO |
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Joubu |
ok but the mapping tables are empty |
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Joubu |
so no reindexing and not search |
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tcohen |
so it should work with that patch :-D |
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tcohen |
Joubu: would you agre with something like this? |
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tcohen |
OPACProto :// OPACBaseURL / OPACBasePath |
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tcohen |
and the same for intranet |
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Joubu |
basepath==/cgi-bin/koha? |
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tcohen |
yeah |
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tcohen |
pick a beter name he |
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tcohen |
it would default to cgi-bin/koha |
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Joubu |
context? :) |
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tcohen |
but I'm sick of this problems we have |
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tcohen |
hardcoding cgi-bin/koha everywhere |
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tcohen |
otherwise having problems under plack |
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Joubu |
I don't have such problems under plack :) |
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tcohen |
http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…].pl?verb=Identify |
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tcohen |
look at the links |
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tcohen |
I'm sure you have that problem |
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Joubu |
What am I suppose to have wrong? |
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tcohen |
the links |
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wahanui |
the links are only based on the $9. |
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tcohen |
Identify, etc |
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Joubu |
ok |
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tcohen |
minutes? |
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wahanui |
minutes are on the wiki page |
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Joubu |
"Too much data for control field" does someone know what this error mean? |
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Joubu |
Well, it means there are too much data for a control field, but in which cases it happens? |
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tcohen |
control fields are special fields, with width constraints |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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Joubu |
it should contain 4 characters, it does not seem very wide |
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tcohen |
blame LoC LOL |
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kidclamp |
Joubu: I am just going to be thinking about elasticsearch muppets all day now |
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waves |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: elasticsearch muppets? |
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kidclamp |
mappings - meppings - muppets |
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Joubu |
eythian: Can I continue to bother you with ES stuffs? |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: haaa :) |
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Joubu |
will have to rebase the other one btw |
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eythian |
Joubu: you can ask, but a) I'll be coming and going, and b) it's been nearly a year since I've done serious work on it, so I may not be too much help. |
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Joubu |
eythian: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]heads/master#l363 |
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Joubu |
you wrote: should not be <5 |
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Joubu |
but actually MARC::Field accepts 2 and only 2 params for controlfield |
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Joubu |
so I think there is something wrong with controlfield management, but not sure at which level |
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eythian |
hmm, it might be that control fields were/are being ignored either on the way in or the way out. |
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eythian |
or the marc json format has 5 fields anyway for them. |
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eythian |
It's possible that control fields weren't supported when I wrote that. |
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Joubu |
but line 368 my $marc_field = MARC::Field->new(@$field); |
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Joubu |
fail with 5 params |
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reiveune |
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Joubu |
eythian: ok, I will continue the debug to better understand it |
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eythian |
then it's probable that it needs support for control fields added. I'd start by seeing how they get serialised into JSON and working from there. |
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Joubu |
eythian: it fixes the search results link on my unimarc D |
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Joubu |
DB |
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Joubu |
\o/ |
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eythian |
cool :) |
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schnyd |
Hi all! How do I add include_items: 1 in conf file as described in bug 12252? I'm trying to make work items to show in OAI-PMH |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data |
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Joubu |
thanks kidclamp! There is another one on bug 17377 if you like :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17377 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , ES - Take control fields into account |
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kidclamp |
hitting 16588 and then will try that |
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lcg |
hi there, does anyone know where to locate specific information about import errors when staging a MARC file for import? |
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lcg |
i staged a file with around 7500 records, but 5 were dropped due to a MARC error. I suspect there are tags in those records which aren't used in the default framework, but I have no idea which of the 5 records are the problem |
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lcg |
any help would be much appreciated! Google has located a few others with a similar problem, but no resolutions |
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schnyd |
oopss got it guys.. :) cheers! |
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Joubu |
schnyd: what do you mean? Edit it, if it's empty, add the line, otherwise... |
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Joubu |
ok too late :) |
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Joubu |
lcg: something in the Koha log file? |
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schnyd |
yeah I added it and called it from Conffile :) |
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schnyd |
got it already, thanks! |
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lcg |
yeah, when i staged the import and it gives you the stats it says "5 records not staged because of marc error" |
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lcg |
but i'm not certain as to which 5 records it is |
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Joubu |
lcg: do you have any kind of errors in the Koha log file? |
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Joubu |
lcg: are you a developper or an user? |
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Joubu |
lcg: I have to go sorry. If you are a dev, and you are not in production you can try: |
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Joubu |
450 use Data::Dumper;warn Dumper \@invalid_records; |
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Joubu |
in C4::ImportBatch::BatchStageMarcRecords just before the return |
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Joubu |
it will print in the koha logs the records in failure |
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lcg |
hey, my apologies, just had 4 calls in a row here at work |
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lcg |
i'll be back in a moment, i appreciate the help! |
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lcg |
ok, thanks for the help. I managed to track down the 5 rows. I ran a query of the original ILS database against what was in the koha database post-import and managed to locate the 5 records that were missing. |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu hmm maybe, but I quite like have the indexing separate from the searching how it is now |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu im not sure we would gain anything moving it? |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
and morning everybody :) |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu but I dont mind either way really :) |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
rangi: my thinking was that keeping all the engine specific stuff in one place makes it nice and discoverable and modular. |
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eythian |
(not that I exactly have a horse in the game :) |
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rangi |
makes sense |
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eythian |
In the distant future you could have search engine plugins... |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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magnuse |
rangi++ for looking at bug 13029 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Allow to pass additional parameters to SMS::Send drivers |
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rangi |
so, when someone does a tarball install |
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rangi |
where does their config end up |
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rangi |
just in /etc/koha/ ? |
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magnuse |
rangi: think so |
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magnuse |
the INSTALL file says to do "sudo zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" for example |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
so we know where the config file is |
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rangi |
how about we put the path to the yaml file in the config? |
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* magnuse |
will take joann to see viking ships tomorrow |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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rocio |
a spback |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, wizzyrea |
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rangi |
rocio: a spback to you too |
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wizzyrea |
joubu++ |
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dcook |
hey wizzyrea: you know those new Windows 10 updates? They totally include a bash shell |
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dcook |
Accidentally just ran a shell script when I was trying to open it in notepad >_> |
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dcook |
No wonder the updates took bloody forever |
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dcook |
Actually... that was in Windows 8 |
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dcook |
I didn't think WIndows 8 was getting the bash shell... |
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dcook |
Ahhh it was the git bash... |
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dcook |
moving on... |