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hi #koha ! |
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bonjour matts |
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hi #koha |
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LibraryClaire |
Hi marcelr |
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:) |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
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hello drojf |
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LibraryClaire |
@wunder LCY |
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huginn` |
LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 12.0°C (8:50 AM BST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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hm, seems we're stuck |
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gerundio |
hi, good morning |
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gerundio |
I've been using Koha for some years now |
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gerundio |
I was asked to perform an upgrade to 3.22.7... just to find out that the next day version 16.05 was released |
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cait |
gerundio: it's just come out - i'd wait a bit |
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gerundio |
is there a safe upgrade path to this new version from 3.2x family? |
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cait |
3.22.x latest sounds sensible |
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cait |
yes of course, we only changed the version naming |
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gerundio |
I couldn't find any information about that version naming |
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cait |
it's now year.month - but it would have been just a 3.24 otherwise |
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gerundio |
ok, thanks |
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gerundio |
cait++ |
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cait |
but be careful - known problems with newer mysql versions etc |
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gerundio |
ok |
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cait |
so maybe wait a bit longer or use the latest 3.22 |
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gerundio |
I'll stick to 3.22.7 for now :) |
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cait |
hi irma! |
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eythian |
someone ought to write ablog post about the version change |
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* cait |
doesn't have a blog |
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drojf |
koha does |
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drojf |
you just need to write te article :P |
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drojf |
the |
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drojf |
did "use biblio number as control number" ever become a real thing or is it still just a hack somebody used? |
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cait |
hack |
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Nikesh |
Hi .... I am from Khalifa Univesity Abu Dhabi. |
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Nikesh |
We are in the process of implementing KOHA. I finished with installing and also uploaded MARC records. When I do a title searching , words from series are also appearing. Is there any way to restrict the search to title only by excluding words from series field |
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magnuse |
drojf: bug 9921 |
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wahanui |
somebody said bug 9921 was about forcing the biblionumber into 001, not making what is in 001 be the biblionumber |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
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tries to tackle bug 16694 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Limit SIP2 auth by patron attribute |
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drojf |
magnuse: thanks |
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jzairo |
morning khall |
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khall |
mornin! |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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vfernandes |
one quick question: it's possible to create a default po file with some translations and apply them to a specific tt file? |
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Marianne |
Hi! Does anyone know if its possible to set a maximum loantime including renewal. We would like to say that you can renew x times but not for longer than a total time of 84 days. One ordinary loanperiod before renewal is set to 28 days. |
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magnuse |
Marianne: i don't that is possible. you'd have to set a max number of renewals and a renewal length that adds up to your total |
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magnuse |
so they get 84 if they wait as long as possible before renewing |
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vfernandes: yes, it's possible |
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bgkriegel_ |
vfernandes: you need to create the po file, specific for that file |
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bgkriegel_ |
vfernandes: perl tmpl_process3.pl create -i ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/ -f opac-main.tt -s specific.po |
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bgkriegel_ |
that for opac-main.tt, just an example |
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bgkriegel_ |
to apply it you can run: perl tmpl_process3.pl install -i ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/ -o ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/xx-YY/modules/ -f opac-main.tt -s specific.po |
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bgkriegel_ |
destination dir must exist |
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eythian |
went for Greek for lunch. They'd run out of gyro and tzatziki. Went for burgers instead. |
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cait |
eythian: so sad |
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morning |
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drojf |
now i'm hungry :/ |
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fridolin |
whouuu, translation was breaking some datatables in fr-FR |
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fridolin |
most of the JS code is in PO and must be unchanged |
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tcohen |
morning |
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kidclamp |
morning tcohen |
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tcohen |
hey kidclamp |
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wahanui |
well, kidclamp is going to talk to the sponsors and see what they think |
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kidclamp |
wahanui forget kidclamp |
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wahanui |
kidclamp: I forgot kidclamp |
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drojf |
anyone using sip2 with tls? |
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Marianne |
Thank you for your answers magnuse and vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
bgkriegel_++ |
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eythian |
drojf: catalyst had it with stunnel (we refused to let it go via the internet otherwise.) |
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magnuse |
drojf: tls? |
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eythian |
Transport Layer Security |
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eythian |
Often slightly wrongly called SSL |
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magnuse |
why can't i get a patron attribute to show up in 3.22.7? |
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magnuse |
eythian: gotcha! |
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because the patronn attribute wasn't saved in the first place... |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi mveron |
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mveron |
Fridolin: Regarding the French translation, I just filtered for printf() checks in Pootle, there are 47 fatal errors with missing / wrong %s |
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mveron |
Hi drojf :-) |
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* LibraryClaire |
waves |
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fridolin |
ich yes, we have to work on it |
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barton |
Out of curiosity, what does C4::Biblio::RemoveAllNsb do? The perldoc says "Removes all nsb/nse chars from a record", but I don't know what those are. |
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cait |
i think non-filling stuff for unimarc |
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cait |
using characters for that instead of indicators |
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barton |
thanks cait! |
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barton |
dani says nsb is 'non-sorting begin' and thinks that nse is 'non-sorting end'. |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
they sourround the words not to be sorted i think |
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barton |
Ahhhh. |
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barton |
did you catch that, huginn`? |
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barton |
what is nsb |
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cait |
barton finding some examples with nsb nse unimarc |
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barton |
nerp. |
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barton |
cait: I'm not sure I'm *that* curious. ;-) |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
hi paul_p |
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barton |
... I was just looking at the arguments to tools/export.pl |
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paul_p |
hi cait. |
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cait |
how is copenhagen? :) |
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paul_p |
ELAG2016 is over ! |
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cait |
ohno |
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cait |
I saw your dinner picture with casper - what did he feed you there? |
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paul_p |
copenhagen is ... expensive... much much quiet than thessaloniki ... I won't compare the danish food to the greek food... |
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cait |
heh |
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paul_p |
cait it was skipper lobscouse. Something with veal meat & potatoes. |
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cait |
doesn't sound too bad |
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paul_p |
not bad. Just heavy food, not very tasty |
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LibraryClaire |
the tweets I saw from the conference looked interesting |
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cait |
yeah they did |
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bag |
morning |
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LibraryClaire |
hi bag |
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bag |
heya LibraryClaire |
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wahanui |
i think LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed |
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LibraryClaire |
hah |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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reiveune |
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mveron |
Bye #koha |
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LibraryClaire |
laters #koha |
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rocks |
Hi folks, I just tried to install Koha on Ubuntu using Virtual Box and got this error message during the web-install https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]multiple&id=16664 |
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rocks |
Any tips? |
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pianohacker |
eythian: how hard would it be to search an arbitrary MARC field in the indexed record in ES? |
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magnuse |
pianohacker: good qustion. koha used to have that, i think |
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pianohacker |
@later tell eythian how hard would it be to search an arbitrary MARC field in the indexed record in ES? |
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huginn` |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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waves |
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eythian |
pianohacker: good question. I don't think you can the way I set it up (aside from forming an index from it.) |
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eythian |
I'm pretty sure that the record stuff isn't indexed. |
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eythian |
But it might be possible to index it so that an explicit search will find it, I'm not sure. |
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eythian |
Also, it's not stored in a search friendly form, you'd want to restructure it so it's searchable. |
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pianohacker |
eythian: https://www.elastic.co/guide/e[…]nested-query.html ? |
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eythian |
Yeah, but I'm not sure if you need the field to be indexed for that to work, and it's probable indexes are turned off for record. |
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eythian |
However searching record is a bad idea anyway. |
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eythian |
Because it's MARCJSON which is not a well structured form |
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pianohacker |
eythian: I agree with you |
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eythian |
If you made another subfield that was say fields->tag->subfield structured, then yeah that'd work. |
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eythian |
(I'm using subfield with two different definitions there.) |
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pianohacker |
oh, yeah, true, making something search the field-as-array structure of MARCJSON could be... tricky |
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eythian |
Yep |
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eythian |
Worthwhile if there's a good use case, definitely. |
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pianohacker |
there... might be. maybe :) |
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eythian |
Would cost a fair bit more in storage I think. |
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pianohacker |
that's what I was just thinking about |
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pianohacker |
big-ass record with a million items... |
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eythian |
(but that might be OK, especially if it were optional which it could be.) |
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pianohacker |
this has different, less terrifying tradeoffs as compared to the other option (ExtractValue-based MySQL searching) |
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bag |
scary |
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eythian |
Yeah for sure |
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eythian |
You'd want to think about your tokenisation 🙂 |
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LibraryClaire |
hi #koha |
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bag |
hiya |
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LibraryClaire |
:) |
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kidclamp |
jajm could 16504 get added for 3.22? |
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bag |
kind of late kidclamp |
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bag |
I think it’s almost 1030pm there |
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kidclamp |
ah |
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kidclamp |
I am terrible at time zones |
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bag |
talljoy already called that title |
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kidclamp |
@later tell jajm could 16504 get added for 3.22? |
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huginn` |
kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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talljoy |
kidclamp you can't claim that |
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talljoy |
bag is right, that is my title |
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talljoy |
nengard has 'bad at math' |
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talljoy |
i have 'bad at timezones' |
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kidclamp |
I woke up at 3am to do something someone in CA asked me to do at 6am their time |
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kidclamp |
I went back to bed very grumpy |
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talljoy |
HA |
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bag |
HA |
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kidclamp |
The only way they make sense to me is when I stop and picture the earth rotating from space, then I can kind of get it right |
| 21:30 |
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pianohacker |
kidclamp: UTC, man :) |
| 21:30 |
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talljoy |
those are not freedom hours pianohacker |
| 21:31 |
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pianohacker |
I'm UTC-6, jajm is UTC+2 |
| 21:31 |
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pianohacker |
talljoy: hmm, but where's the freedom meridian? |
| 21:31 |
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pianohacker |
DC? |
| 21:31 |
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talljoy |
HA |
| 21:31 |
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eythian |
Statistically, through New Zealand |
| 21:32 |
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pianohacker |
stay out of this, metric-user |
| 21:32 |
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talljoy |
lol |
| 21:32 |
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pianohacker |
you probably measure timezones in KILOMETERS |
| 21:32 |
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talljoy |
sick |
| 21:32 |
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eythian |
Although sometimes it gets switched with Scandinavia for a bit |
| 21:32 |
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pianohacker |
we measure our freedom in HOGSHEADS |
| 21:32 |
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talljoy |
and BUSHELS and PECKS |
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* talljoy |
imagines a hogshead unit..... |
| 21:34 |
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eythian |
It's a thing. |
| 21:34 |
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eythian |
Because non metric is weird and bizarre |
| 21:35 |
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eythian |
Only used by crazy people, Liberia, and Myanmar |
| 21:35 |
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talljoy |
but free |
| 21:35 |
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talljoy |
heh |
| 21:35 |
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talljoy |
except not free ironically |
| 21:35 |
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talljoy |
wait... |
| 21:36 |
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pianohacker |
so free it uses whatever base it wants |
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pianohacker |
base-12, base-10, base-1760 |
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kidclamp |
everyone should have their utc listed on the wiki :b |
| 21:38 |
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LibraryClaire |
I don't know what mine is half the time |
| 21:38 |
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kidclamp |
and also talljoy, don't we all want to be like you? |
| 21:38 |
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talljoy |
indeed you should. |
| 21:38 |
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talljoy |
kidclamp++ |
| 21:39 |
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talljoy |
kidclamp knows how to butter up his coworkers. nicely done |
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eythian |
There's only one utc, that's the point. |
| 21:39 |
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eythian |
LibraryClaire: droll :-) |
| 21:39 |
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kidclamp |
their relative adjustment to utc |
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LibraryClaire |
;) |
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LibraryClaire |
g'night #koha |
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