IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-08

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02:03 jcamins @later tell oleonard Didn't you already adopt LESS?
02:03 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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07:18 * magnuse waves
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07:42 reiveune hello
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07:45 marcelr hi #koha
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07:54 alex_a bonjour
07:55 marcelr bonjour alex_a
07:56 alex_a salut marcelr
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08:00 drojf morning #koha
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08:11 magnuse @wunder boo
08:11 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 28.65 in 970 hPa (Steady).
08:12 Francesca @wunder nelson, new zealand
08:12 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Richmond Avenue Extn, Nelson, New Zealand is 20.4°C (9:09 PM NZDT on February 08, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
08:13 * Francesca is holidaying in nelson
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08:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
08:21 drojf it does not say that it is almost dark outside :(
08:22 Francesca its only just got dark here
08:22 Francesca sad that its still dark at 8.50 am though
08:25 drojf it is again. ;) we had some light, for a short while
08:25 drojf weird
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08:27 gaetan_B hello
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08:32 cait morning #koha
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08:35 marcelr hi cait
08:36 cait hi marcelr )
08:45 cait drojf: around?
08:50 cait drojf: ping :)
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09:06 drojf hi cait
09:06 drojf pong
09:07 cait pong
09:07 cait or ping?
09:07 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
10:17 cait paul_p: around?
10:17 paul_p cait yes. Hello cait
10:19 cait hello paul_p :)
10:19 cait was wondering... any chance for a coral + koha presentation at kohacon?
10:24 paul_p mmm... that's a good idea.
10:25 cait :)
10:25 * paul_p has not submitted any talk yet. will do asap !
10:25 cait I was hoping you'd say that - we'd be very interested to learn more
10:25 drojf 20 days left
10:25 cait alos maybe some intro for the hackfest would be cool
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12:49 oleonard Hi #koha
12:53 magnuse hi oleonard
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13:27 vera wht do i keep on getting error 500 on my OPAC portal for any action i want to carry out?
13:29 vera why do i keep on getting error 500 on my OPAC portal for any action i want to carry out?
13:32 drojf i don't think it is possible to answer that question
13:33 oleonard vera is this a Koha installation which you manage?
13:34 vera yes
13:34 oleonard Have you looked at the error logs?
13:34 vera it was installed somewhere in the cloud
13:35 oleonard By someone else?
13:35 vera i just manage it through the admin interface
13:35 cait vera: is your opac publicly accessible?
13:35 oleonard vera I think you will need to contact the people who installed it for you.
13:36 vera my OPAC is publicly accessible
13:36 vera
13:36 vera the person that installed it does not seem to know what the problem is
13:37 vera that error message have been from the beginning
13:37 drojf but then you don't know anything about how it was installed and have no way of accessing the server?
13:37 vera initially we though it was network
13:37 vera poor network
13:37 oleonard vera I can search the catalog without errors
13:37 cait hm opac opens normally, that's a good sign
13:38 cait where do you get the 500, when searching?
13:38 vera bcos sometimes when you refresh a particular action i will now get a result
13:38 cait vera: hm it appears to work normally for me - i can search and view the opac start page and the record detail pages
13:39 magnuse works for me too
13:39 vera oleonard: when i try to generate statistics for example from the back end, i get that error 500
13:40 drojf sometimes? or always?
13:40 vera always
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13:41 drojf i doubt it's possible to say anything without looking at the server configuration. maybe somebody else has a better idea
13:42 cait vera: always broken in theopac too? or only sometimes?
13:43 vera cait: i dont understand what you meant please
13:44 cait you initially said that you had problems with error 500 in your OPAC
13:45 cait is it currently broken for you? or is there a problem with a specific action?
13:46 vera it is a problem with actions like report, cataloguing using Z39.50, etc
13:46 vera searching the database does not give any error
13:47 vera is there a way i can send screen shot to this chat group?
13:47 cait ok, so it's not the opac portal, it's the staff interface
13:47 cait the pages, that the librarians use
13:48 vera i would love to send a screen shot
13:48 vera yes
13:48 oleonard vera you could post a screenshot to a public image-sharing site like, but if it just says "error 500" it won't help us much.
13:49 vera the pages that the librarians use
13:49 vera ok! i will try now
13:51 drojf vera: who did the installation?
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13:53 drojf anyone else registered for kohacon yet? should i have received an email or something?
13:53 vera_ sorry i got disconnected
13:53 vera_ kindly remind me of the site for sharing images
13:55 oleonard
13:56 vera_ thanks oleonard
14:03 nengard morning
14:05 drojf hi nengard
14:06 magnuse kia ora nengard
14:08 nengard :)
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14:31 cait magnuse: when I am using the oai-pmh in extended mode... can i add an additional stylesheet to apply with xsl_file: ?
14:38 vera_ oleonard: i have attached image to
14:38 oleonard vera_: You need to paste the link here
14:38 vera_ ok
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16:07 cait drojf: ping
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16:16 kivilahtio jajm: are you around?
16:17 kivilahtio jajm: we are having issues with our swagger.json becoming too large, and now one of our partners is complaining they cannot deploy the swagger.json
16:17 kivilahtio jajm: I am looking into how to split the swagger.json into smaller files
16:17 kivilahtio separate files for definitions/parameters/etc
16:18 kivilahtio because the current system is killing me.
16:18 kivilahtio jajm: just asking are you cooking up anything like that?
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16:18 jajm kivilahtio, are you aware of bug 15126 ?
16:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2
16:19 kivilahtio jajm: thanks :)
16:19 jajm yw ;)
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16:22 kivilahtio jajm: why do you have a index.json to server as a gateway for definitions?
16:22 kivilahtio jajm: why do you have a index.json to serve as a gateway for definitions?
16:22 kivilahtio jajm: definitions/index.json
16:22 kivilahtio jajm: you could directly reference the definitions without using an index?
16:23 kivilahtio jajm: tho using this index it is easier to have an overview of what definitions have been defined
16:24 jajm kivilahtio, you could, i don't know which solution is better
16:24 kivilahtio jajm: just asking while reading through your code
16:24 kivilahtio looks good. We might have to sign it off :)
16:26 jajm cool :)
16:28 kivilahtio jajm: there is one problem regarding splitting a JSON-schema to multiple files
16:29 kivilahtio one issue is, not all tools can put the schema back together from multiple files
16:29 kivilahtio jajm: some suggest "minifying" the schema files to one single file which is exposed to the public
16:32 kivilahtio jajm: Imagine this schema being grown to 50+ files. Then it is 50+ GET requests from a schema-consumer
16:36 jajm like we do with the LESS files ?
16:36 kivilahtio jajm: yes
16:38 jajm it could be a solution
16:38 jajm is there existing tools to merge all the json files ?
16:38 kivilahtio jajm: I guess I need to take a look how Koha deals with LESS first
16:38 kivilahtio jajm: plenty, but not for Perl I guess
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17:11 bag morning
17:14 cait morning bag
17:14 bag hi cait
17:33 eythian evening
17:34 drojf hi eythian and bag
17:57 Joubu hum, Jenkins does not feel healthy
17:57 Joubu @later tell lds "
17:57 huginn Joubu: Error: No closing quotation
17:57 Joubu erk!
17:57 Joubu @later tell lds "have a look at the jenkins server please, it says          Please wait while Jenkins is restarting."
17:57 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:01 Joubu bye #koha
18:06 magnuse bag: HI
18:06 wahanui hello, magnuse
18:06 bag heya magnuse
18:06 wahanui hmmm... magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
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18:33 gaetan_B bye
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19:15 * cait waves
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20:18 * cait waves kathryn
20:31 kathryn hello cait :)
20:58 eythian Hi kathryn, cait, etc
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21:02 cait hi eythian
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22:07 wizzyrea hello!
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22:25 cait hey wizzyrea - back at work?
22:25 wizzyrea yes finally :)
22:25 cait yay :)
22:26 wizzyrea that was a trial.
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22:29 cait missed the coworkers? :)
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22:29 cait catalyst_it++[…]arship-recipients
22:33 wizzyrea I did!
22:33 wizzyrea also yay for scholarships :)
22:38 cait aleisha++ congrats!
22:38 aleisha thank you!
22:40 pianohacker that's really really cool
22:40 pianohacker aleisha: good job and good luck :)
22:40 aleisha thanks pianohacker :)
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22:46 cait pianohacker: can you remind me if we already agreed on a wording for hte 'code plack friendly' rule?
22:47 cait working the changes into the coding guidelines rightnow
22:47 pianohacker uh.
22:47 * pianohacker presses rewind on mental VCR
22:47 pianohacker give it a sec
22:48 pianohacker cait: "Forbid use of globals containing state in Perl modules and CGI scripts, and discourage their use elsewhere."
22:48 pianohacker cait: I think there's a link with reasoning in the minutes
22:48 cait hm
22:49 cait i got: pianohacker will draw up a draft of a coding guideline regarding global  variables in modules/CGI scripts, see[…]ested_Subroutines  for context
22:49 cait i can't find your draft in the logs
22:49 cait ?
22:50 cait looks like we didn't vote on it
22:50 cait I also got: pianohacker to suggest a possible guideline for handling disagreements :)
22:51 pianohacker cait: yeah, been thinking about the latter
22:51 pianohacker cait: it looks like we got some amount of consensus on that wording
22:51 cait i will finish reworking... then maybe have a look?
22:51 pianohacker cait:[…]6-02-02#i_1783947
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22:52 cait hm but no vote... let's fix that next time
22:52 cait adding the wording
22:52 cait to the agenda
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