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eythian |
hi cait |
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eythian |
go back to bed |
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wahanui |
http://33.media.tumblr.com/b34[…]9rdlo1_r2_400.gif |
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no wait |
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eythian |
Hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi eythian |
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rangi |
morning |
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eythian |
hi |
| 19:41 |
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wahanui |
hey, eythian |
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rangi |
got rid of the cold eythian ? |
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* eythian |
is on hold to vodafone nz... |
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liw |
rangi, eythian, good morning and good night |
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eythian |
mostly yeah |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
ahh good old vodafone |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
hiya liw :) been writing your "backups, you should do them" talk for kohacon16 in greece? |
| 19:43 |
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liw |
rangi, I could do a talked where I just read out loud a list of things in which your data might get lost |
| 19:43 |
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eythian |
I think they failed to close my account when I told them |
| 19:43 |
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liw |
rangi, when is kohacon16? |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
not sure exact dates but may/june |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
eythian: ahh that sadly does not suprise me |
| 19:44 |
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eythian |
yeah, neither |
| 19:44 |
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liw |
https://koha-community.org/kohacon/ should possibly be updated, it lists kohacon15 as upcoming |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
ahh true, thanks |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: ^^ |
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drojf |
i sent an email to greece about it, no reply yet |
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eythian |
also, hi liw |
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drojf |
and hello everyone |
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liw |
eythian, you northern person you (I'm south of you now) |
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eythian |
where are you? |
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liw |
spending this month in Torrevieja, Spain |
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eythian |
ah |
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eythian |
probably a good idea :) |
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liw |
rangi, if kohacon16 is in greece, about that time, then I should try my best to go there, at least for a visit to see old friends; I don't mind giving a talk on backups, either |
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eythian |
I'm hoping to make it too. I have a friend to visit who lives there |
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rangi |
liw: excellent :) |
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* cait |
waves |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rangi :) |
| 19:50 |
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eythian |
so, I got "don't pay the bill, and we'll send you a new one in a week with your credit." |
| 19:51 |
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eythian |
what are the odds I get an overdue notice in the next few days? |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
? |
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rangi |
greater than 80% |
| 19:51 |
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eythian |
cait: my NZ ISP failed to close my account |
| 19:51 |
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eythian |
they were apparently waiting on a technician to come to pick up my equipment, despite a) not organising one, and b) me having already returned my equipment myself. |
| 19:52 |
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gmcharlt |
my mother-in-law moved out of her house, and we closed her cable internet service for her |
| 19:52 |
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gmcharlt |
got informed we had to return her modem |
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gmcharlt |
... the one we had purchased for her two years previously ... and those, not actually the property of the cable company |
| 19:52 |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
vodafone would do that sort of thing too, I'm sure (except I think no one buys their own cable modem in NZ) |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
... i just today have switched to a new router and have to send in the old one |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
could you all stop the horror stories please? |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
I have to go back to work tomorrow - that's bad enough :) |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: could you maybe take a look at bug 8352 sometime? i adds 3 new dependencies and is in the qa queue currently |
| 19:56 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add automatic printing of 'hold to pull' notices |
| 19:57 |
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gmcharlt |
cait: sure! |
| 19:59 |
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eythian |
gmcharlt: did you get a copy of the original signing key? A number of people have it and can send it to you. It'd mean that other people wouldn't need to do anything to keep updates going. |
| 19:59 |
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gmcharlt |
eythian: not yet; I've made inquiries to get a copy |
| 19:59 |
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eythian |
rangi should be able to send you one. Foolishly I didn't keep a copy. |
| 20:00 |
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rangi |
hmm if i can find it |
| 20:01 |
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eythian |
I emailed it ages back, so you should be able to dig through your email. |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
| 20:01 |
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eythian |
by ages I mean probably around the time the key was created |
| 20:01 |
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eythian |
the passphrase for it is in the usual place for such things |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
got it |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
feb 2013 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 20:04 |
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eythian |
http://www.pararius.com/apartm[…]rik-hendrikstraat <-- on a scale of 1 to expensive, places here are ridiculous |
| 20:04 |
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gmcharlt |
rang++ |
| 20:04 |
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gmcharlt |
er, who is this rang fellow? |
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gmcharlt |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
eythian: yikes! |
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kathryn |
rangi: do you get the cloud update emails from Bruno? |
| 20:05 |
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eythian |
the cheapest I've seen is only €100 less |
| 20:05 |
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eythian |
kathryn: w/w |
| 20:05 |
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eythian |
also, hi |
| 20:05 |
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kathryn |
ww hi eythian :) |
| 20:06 |
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kathryn |
knew you'd beat me to that :) |
| 20:06 |
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gmcharlt |
eythian: I didn't think what I'm about to say would be possible... but it is: move to Seattle! It'll be cheaper! |
| 20:06 |
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eythian |
gmcharlt: heh |
| 20:08 |
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eythian |
prices are known to be extremely terrible here. |
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eythian |
I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible though |
| 20:08 |
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eythian |
I'm thinking I'll suck that cost up for 6 months while I get my bearings and find a cheaper place and get together the furnishings for it. |
| 20:14 |
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cait1 |
t |
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wizzyrea |
Thhat is impressively expensive |
| 20:14 |
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wizzyrea |
also hi |
| 20:14 |
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eythian |
it surely is |
| 20:14 |
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eythian |
g'day |
| 20:14 |
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wizzyrea |
liw: I usually update the website for kohacon once I have the new information from the current hosts. |
| 20:15 |
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wizzyrea |
but yeah, it shouldn't be listed as upcoming |
| 20:16 |
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* wizzyrea |
keeps getting emails from booking.com |
| 20:16 |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
| 20:20 |
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eythian |
That's what the unsub link is for :-) |
| 20:20 |
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wizzyrea |
nah, I like them they remind me of people I like |
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* cait1 |
resists to ask who else wizzyrea knows at booking.com |
| 20:23 |
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cait1 |
well.. not quite :) |
| 20:24 |
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wizzyrea |
ok A person |
| 20:25 |
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eythian |
Heh |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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gmcharlt |
OK, the APT repo and new packages have been updated to use the previous signing key |
| 21:07 |
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cait1 |
gmcharlt++ |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ gmcharlt++ |
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* cait1 |
waves at BobB |
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cait1 |
hm bug 15305 worries me |
| 21:32 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15305 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , KOHA SIP2 checkout doesn't update of the item holding status |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
hm yes that is concerning |
| 21:33 |
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cait1 |
the screenshot is ineresting, i have no idea how this can happen |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
looks like a display issue |
| 21:33 |
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cait1 |
hm not sure |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
ie, it is actually checked out |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it definitely looks checked out |
| 21:33 |
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cait1 |
the first one is checked out with sip, the second with gui |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
its just not updated the items |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
both have a row in issues |
| 21:33 |
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cait1 |
yeah |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
but it's still a bug then |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
which is what koha actually cares about |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
will also show wrongin the result lists etc. |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
just not a horrible one |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
hopefully |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
it is |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
i just checked |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
hm? |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
you can simulate it |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
checked out you mean? |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
add a row to issues |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
without updating the items table |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
ah, and set onloan in items to null? |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
thats how it looks |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:34 |
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cait1 |
wonde when we broke that |
| 21:34 |
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wizzyrea |
I know it used to work |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
hm we have a 3.20 library using sip |
| 21:35 |
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rangi |
it'll be something more complex than just because of SIP |
| 21:35 |
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cait1 |
wonder if it has to do with the date handling patches |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
you used to see that kind of thing in relation to reserves sometimes |
| 21:35 |
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cait1 |
like inserting a datetime into items when it only wants a date |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
but they should both be using the same code |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
an checkout in sip, should be using the exact same code as a checkout in the gui |
| 21:37 |
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cait1 |
agreed... but it might not be the case. it's weird |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
that would definitely be new, if it wasnt |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
you could also get this with indexing problems |
| 21:38 |
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cait1 |
I can't confirm the problemright now, maybe a first thing to test |
| 21:38 |
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wizzyrea |
^ that was my first thought |
| 21:38 |
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cait1 |
not sure |
| 21:38 |
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cait1 |
this is detail view |
| 21:38 |
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cait1 |
it pulls directly from the database |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
thats what you think :) |
| 21:38 |
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cait1 |
yeah i do :) |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
people change that stuff all the time, id check its not using the marcrecord |
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cait1 |
best would be to just check something out with sip |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
my $issue = AddIssue( $borrower, $barcode, $overridden_duedate, 0 ); |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
its using the exact same code |
| 21:40 |
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cait1 |
but i still have to make time and re-learn how to do that |
| 21:40 |
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cait1 |
maybe it's passing a wrong parameter? as overridden_duedate? |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
yeah, SIP and circulation.pl both use AddIssue |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
could be |
| 21:41 |
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cait1 |
if it was a datetime mysql might just refuse to save it |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
id expect it not to issue it then |
| 21:41 |
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cait1 |
onloan is type date in the database |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
if its that |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
then AddIssue is the problem |
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rangi |
it shouldnt half arse it |
| 21:42 |
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cait1 |
heh |
| 21:42 |
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rangi |
that'd mean it'd be broken for the REST API etc too |
| 21:42 |
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cait1 |
we really need more sip testers/devs... those are really always getting stuck |
| 21:42 |
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cait1 |
the bugs and patches |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
if ($datedue && ref $datedue ne 'DateTime') { |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
$datedue = dt_from_string($datedue); |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
} |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
should be ok |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
thats doing the right thing |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
cait1: what we need is a SIP server running |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
that people can telnet against to test |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
like the sandboxes |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
but for SIP |
| 21:44 |
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cait1 |
hm but also need to be able to accesst he installation then |
| 21:45 |
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cait1 |
for configuration - so sandbox with configured sip |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
then libraries could even test actual machines against it |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah tat'd be neat |
| 21:46 |
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cait1 |
love the idea |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
what sucks though, is that most libraries don't know/remember how to update the configs to look at a test server |
| 21:48 |
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cait1 |
brb |
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wizzyrea |
and they have to call 3M to remind them |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 21:59 |
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rangi |
and then 3m lie |
| 22:00 |
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rangi |
altho, not for much longer |
| 22:00 |
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rangi |
now bibliotheca will lie |
| 22:00 |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph |
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wizzyrea |
"no no, it's Koha" <furious typing> "try it now" |
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BobB |
hi wizzyrea, do you know if Kathryn Tyree is about? |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea |
she's not in this channel atm, but she could be |
| 22:38 |
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BobB |
i guess i could phone her :) |
| 22:39 |
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rangi |
kathryn: BobB wants you :) |
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kathryn |
hi bobb I'm on the phone :) |
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BobB |
kathryn pls buzz me when you are free |
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BobB |
hi rangi :) |
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irma |
hi james s |
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irma |
I am opening our shared Gdocs |
| 23:08 |
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irma |
To start of with can you please copy from sheet two the q7a into the correct row in sheet one? CSOWW |
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irma |
Q&A |
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* eythian |
wants to encourage irma to post more secrets, but must go to bed instead |
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* Francesca |
waves |
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irma |
thanks eytian ;-) |
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irma |
*eythian |
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