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* dcook |
doubts that Zebra is going anywhere soon... |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
And while we're moving away from version numbering... I think changing the indexing would be a good candidate for that |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
Or changing how we handle metadata... |
| 00:08 |
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* dcook |
goes back to researching other things |
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dcook |
Trying to track down contact information... you learn a lot about a person's past :S |
| 00:10 |
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dcook |
Or about people with the same name and similar past :p |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell cait none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones. |
| 01:46 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:46 |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell tcohen none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
eythian: Why? Why? Nooooooooooo. :) |
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| 03:18 |
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eythian |
mtompset: has to be done :) |
| 03:18 |
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dcook |
Travelling around the world for work is pretty awesome |
| 03:19 |
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* dcook |
gives a thumbs up |
| 03:19 |
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eythian |
dcook: pfft, what would you know? ;) |
| 03:19 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:19 |
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ibeardslee |
eythian: no, didn't have to be done |
| 03:19 |
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mtompset |
dcook: Unless you country of citizenship wants to disown you after 5 years. ;) |
| 03:20 |
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mtompset |
^you^your^ |
| 03:20 |
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eythian |
what country does that? |
| 03:21 |
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mtompset |
Well, Canada doesn't disown you, but you lose the right to vote. |
| 03:22 |
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mtompset |
Not to mention residency requirements take at least 3 months to kick in when you return, if you were unfortunate to lose your residency because you stayed out of country too long. |
| 03:23 |
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eythian |
ah. It's unclear in NZ on our site. I couldn't enrol to vote if away for three years, but I'm already enrolled, so I don't know what that means. |
| 03:23 |
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mtompset |
Depends on if they refresh the voters lists each election, I suppose. |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
The elections thing is vague anyway |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
I haven't been gone for 5 years yet, but I still was ineligible |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
they don't, once enrolled, always enrolled I think |
| 03:24 |
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mtompset |
Unless the politicians want to mess you up. :) |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
"confirm that they intend to return to Canada to reside by providing the date on which they intend to resume residence in Canada" http://www.elections.ca/conten[…]ment=index&lang=e |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
I don't have any intent to return at this time |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
The five year rule seems to apply more to Canadians who are temporarily non-residents |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
I'm an emigrant :p |
| 03:26 |
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mtompset |
Silly you. |
| 03:26 |
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mtompset |
:) |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
I love Canada, but Australia is pretty good. |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
ah, I can't vote if I haven't been to NZ in the past three years |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
I'm sure everyone I know in Canada will be cursing my name in about... 4-8 weeks if they're not already |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
37 degrees yesterday ;) |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
but even a quick visit counts |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
eythian: Interesting |
| 03:26 |
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wahanui |
i heard Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:26 |
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mtompset |
How about I curse it now for you. ;) |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
@wunder l7e5y5 |
| 03:27 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Wilshire-Thornhill, Vaughan, Ontario is 11.1°C (10:16 PM EST on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:28 |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
| 03:28 |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:30 |
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dcook |
Canada Elecctions Act (S.C. 2000, c. 9) s. 222 (1) c http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca[…]e-65.html#docCont |
| 03:30 |
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dcook |
Christ, I can't remember how to do legal citations properly anymore... |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
Law is a funny thing in how vague it can be sometimes |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
"Intentions" make their way into all sorts of laws |
| 03:31 |
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wizzyrea |
tfw you have to re-indent everything just to understand wtf is going on. |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
I suppose it does with manslaughter vs murder too of course.. |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Hmm? |
| 03:31 |
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wizzyrea |
I was just looking at a very weirdly nested template. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Paragraph 222(1)(c). There we go. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Ahhh |
| 03:32 |
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* dcook |
hates re-indenting |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Also when someone mixes tabs and spaces in Python source |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
That's fun |
| 03:32 |
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wizzyrea |
oh jeez. yeah nah. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Well, not so bad if you're able to switch the tabs to spaces.. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
"yeah nah" love it |
| 03:33 |
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wizzyrea |
well I also had to re-do most of the divs on the page because it wasn't done properly originally :/ |
| 03:33 |
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wizzyrea |
so that caused a bunch of re-indenting as well |
| 03:33 |
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wizzyrea |
not just doing it for funsies. |
| 03:33 |
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wizzyrea |
definitely not funsies. |
| 03:34 |
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dcook |
Hurray for improving it for others :) |
| 03:34 |
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mtj |
hey eythian, giz a ping if you end up in town after work, tmrw |
| 03:35 |
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ibeardslee |
he will probably be in town after whisky tomorrow |
| 03:35 |
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eythian |
mtj: odds are I won't be in town on Friday but I'm having drinks on Saturday afternoon at HZ |
| 03:35 |
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eythian |
ibeardslee: I'll probably just be wanting to sleep :) |
| 03:35 |
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dcook |
^ |
| 03:35 |
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ibeardslee |
soft |
| 03:35 |
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mtompset |
Oh, who has edit capability for the www.koha-community.org site? |
| 03:36 |
|
ibeardslee |
I've been getting early nights all week in preparation |
| 03:36 |
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mtompset |
https://www.koha-community.org[…]erence-manual.pdf is missing a / |
| 03:37 |
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mtj |
eythian: cool, saturday arvo at HZ could be doable too :) |
| 03:37 |
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mtompset |
http://http//manual.koha-community.org/3.2/fr/ is missing a : |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: ^ |
| 03:37 |
|
dcook |
Actually, is there a git for the website... I think there is |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
mtompset: which page are you looking at |
| 03:38 |
|
dcook |
Hmm maybe not |
| 03:38 |
|
mtompset |
documentation |
| 03:38 |
|
wahanui |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 03:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's not really practical to keep the wordpress in git. |
| 03:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
how about now |
| 03:39 |
|
wahanui |
hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
| 03:40 |
|
mtompset |
French is fixed. |
| 03:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 03:41 |
|
mtompset |
3.0 link busted still |
| 03:41 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm wondering if it's time to retire those. |
| 03:42 |
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mtompset |
What is the furthest back we have released in the last 6 months? |
| 03:42 |
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mtompset |
I'd be tempted to create an archived documentation page. |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea |
3.16 |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea |
hm, I guess we had one 3.14 |
| 03:44 |
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mtompset |
I'd keep back to 3.14 on the documentation page, but not lose those old files and create an archived documentation page which is unlinked, but provideable on request. |
| 03:44 |
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| 03:45 |
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mtompset |
Probably mention it as an HTML comment on the documentation page, so that it doesn't get lost in the anals of time. ;) |
| 03:46 |
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mtompset |
Anyways, I should go get sleep. |
| 03:46 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea eythian dcook ibeardslee Francesca mtj |
| 03:46 |
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wizzyrea |
later mtompset |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
later |
| 03:46 |
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mtompset |
and irma :) |
| 03:46 |
|
Francesca |
bye! |
| 03:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
(also that's not a project for today, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow ;) |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
eythian: Anathema just popped up on my playlist ;) |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
:D |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:25 |
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magnuse |
no string freeze yet? |
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reiveune |
hello |
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fridolin |
bonjour all |
| 07:55 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 08:19 |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
bbl |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi all |
| 09:12 |
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mveron |
hi Amit_Gupta |
| 09:18 |
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magnuse |
translating - such fun! |
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| 09:34 |
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cait |
magnuse: lol |
| 09:36 |
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magnuse |
cait: do you know anything about string freeze? |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
that's the day, when... |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
nope |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
i think tomas said last night he forgot to announce it |
| 09:37 |
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magnuse |
ah |
| 09:37 |
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magnuse |
and do you know if pootle will be updated again? |
| 09:39 |
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* magnuse |
hopes not |
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* mveron |
waves |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya mveron |
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magnuse |
huh? "opac.pref Restricted page" |
| 09:58 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 09:58 |
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cait |
some kind of proxy page i think |
| 09:59 |
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cait |
i hink ys, but it should not be so much |
| 10:00 |
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magnuse |
ok |
| 10:02 |
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magnuse |
ah yes, i think the restricted page was for e.g. journal databases that use the referer to authorize access for users |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
i tihnk maybe we shoudl rename it to be more clear |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
Page for restricted access |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
or something like that |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
hm or Proxy page for resources with restricted access? |
| 10:15 |
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magnuse |
that would be very clear, if not very short :-) |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
i will take clear over short sometimes... |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
and it would still be shorter than the german translation :) |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 10:36 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 AM CET on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 11:38 |
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drojf |
cait: lol |
| 11:44 |
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cait |
jm? |
| 11:44 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
a later i left ages ago? |
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cait |
hm no khall :( |
| 11:57 |
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drojf |
cait: yes |
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cait |
drojf: ohok |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 12:16 |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
| 12:16 |
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cait |
you are too early.. i am not done yet! :) |
| 12:17 |
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tcohen |
I need to go to the bank |
| 12:17 |
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tcohen |
so i'll be back in 2 hours |
| 12:17 |
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cait |
oh good :) |
| 12:25 |
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magnuse |
have fun tcohen |
| 12:33 |
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cait |
ashimema ping |
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* mveron |
waves |
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* cait |
waves back |
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mveron |
:-) |
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ashimema |
pong |
| 13:19 |
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ashimema |
wat up cait |
| 13:21 |
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mveron |
cait: What is the meaning of "Upcoming events" in opac-messaging.tt ? Is it really "Veranstaltungstipps" in German? |
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cait |
ah |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
mveron: it never was fully implemented |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
ashimema: was wondering if you could help me with the dates patches |
| 13:24 |
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mveron |
Ok... |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
i am working on a sign-off for bug 15067 |
| 13:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add additional languages to advanced search language search |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
hm not that |
| 13:24 |
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wahanui |
not that is a probably - you'll just need to learn a few new techinques |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
bug 14870 |
| 13:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
| 13:25 |
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mveron |
Oh yes please please... :-) |
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cait |
and there is khall too :) |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
is there a good reason we display branch and itemtype codes only on the return page? |
| 13:29 |
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* cait |
files a bug |
| 13:56 |
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cait |
khall: saw the test - will try to take a look in a bit! |
| 13:56 |
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khall |
excellent! |
| 13:56 |
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khall |
thanks! |
| 13:56 |
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cait |
khall: and thx for qa :) |
| 13:57 |
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khall |
np! |
| 13:57 |
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cait |
we are getting there :) |
| 13:57 |
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cait |
https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers |
| 14:00 |
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cait |
as i have roped ashimema in to look at bug 14870... someone interested to check 15207? |
| 14:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
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cait |
Die C4::Dates, die! |
| 14:06 |
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* drojf |
cheers cait on |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 14:06 |
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* mveron |
cheers everybody on... |
| 14:06 |
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drojf |
hi mveron :) |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
ashimema: waiting for the status switch here to cheer heh |
| 14:07 |
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mveron |
ashiema++ (for signing off and for finding the typo: date sting) |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
cait++ for signing off.. |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
she spotted the typo ;) |
| 14:07 |
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* mveron |
had many date stings... |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
I jus qa'd it after her :) |
| 14:07 |
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mveron |
cait++ |
| 14:07 |
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mveron |
hi drojf :-) |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
i think 3 patches to be resolved now: |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
bug 15032 |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , (Plack) Stage MARC records for import breaks in Plack |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
bug 15076 |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15076 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Remove file misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
argh, not that one. |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
bug 15207 |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15207 major, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Failed QA , Error on upgrade from 3.20.5 to 3.22 beta |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
that one. |
| 14:08 |
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wahanui |
that one is down more often than up |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
and bug 12072 |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
why can i never get any numbers right? *grump* |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
i am lookin gat the last one onw |
| 14:09 |
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* mveron |
sends his spare glasses to cait... |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
he thx |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
i just had an eye check yesterday :) |
| 14:10 |
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* ashimema |
needs an eye check |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
so.. |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
your looking at 12072 right cait |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
in your trello.. |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
whats the difference between NSO and Bugs? |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
are Bugs new stuff since 3.22 beta? |
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| 14:11 |
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cait |
ashimema: bugs = not ready for sign off - although the update problem bug has some, i think there is a problem there people need to figure out. so good to take a look maybe |
| 14:12 |
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cait |
for the plack one tomas might have a workaround - but he is afk currently and it's not on bugzilla yet i think |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
cheers |
| 14:14 |
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cait |
and thx for helping :) |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
Man i wish were were using deployment handler.. |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
but alas.. it was declared as too expensive with regards to dependancies.. |
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cait |
khall: do you now if we have a script that works if you want to change your dateformat setting? bit worried becuase of the big bold warning :( Note: Do not change this preference on a production server with overdue items that are accruing fines. Doing so will result in duplicate fines! |
| 14:29 |
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cait |
ashimema: are you looking at the database update one? |
| 14:30 |
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khall |
cait: not that I'm aware of. It gets even more complicated when you add the timeformat in! |
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cait |
hm could the sscript we were about to remove be a start? |
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khall |
cait: this is one major reason I did the accounts rewrite. The way it works right now it is "fragile" to say the least. |
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cait |
i'd really like to move our databases to the new format :) |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
yeah i totally understand that |
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cait |
i hope we can work towards it next release |
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khall |
cait: I don't think so, it doesn't even take the time into account! |
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ashimema |
yikes |
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ashimema |
the db one yeah.. sorta looking at it.. |
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khall |
what we need is a script where you specify a from date and time format, and a to date and time format |
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cait |
hm the time didn't change |
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cait |
timeformatis the same |
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ashimema |
whilst juggling some non-blocking code I'm writing. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
hm i have no overdues in my database... |
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cait |
khall: do you think it would be enough to just change the strings? in our case we'd replace / with . |
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khall |
cait: I'm not sure what you mean |
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cait |
ah, i want to switch production installations from dd/mm/yyyy to dd.mm.yyyy :) |
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khall |
ah, I see. A regex via mysql should fix that up |
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khall |
If you change *all* /'s to .'s you'll end up with duplicate fines |
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khall |
you need to change just the due date and only the due date |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
so only for overdue lines |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
mesy |
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cait |
messy |
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khall |
yep, that's why the rewrite goes by issue_id and not the description |
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khall |
some day I'll get that rewritten |
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cait |
yeah, it should have never done that |
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* ashimema |
also want's to do an account re-write |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
along with an auth rewrite |
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cait |
can we look you 2 in a room for 2 weeks and sign of the patches falling out? |
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nengard |
i'd love that |
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nengard |
cait++ |
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nengard |
hehe |
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cait |
we'd even send in food... if you send out patches :P |
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ashimema |
haha |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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nengard |
uh oh - koha community seems to be planning on kidnapping ashimema and khall and locking them in a room .... |
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nengard |
we have 3 votes for :) |
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cait |
hehe |
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ashimema |
can we have pianohacker, tcohen, rangi and colinc too? |
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ashimema |
and any other's I've missed out 'cause my fingers got tired |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
now i want to be INSIDE the room too |
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cait |
... |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
and i can't give you khall and pianohacker ... i need one of them here :) |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema |
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ashimema |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
i'm filling a bug, that I want to fast-track :-D |
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ashimema |
:) |
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tcohen |
i need 1 person to sign off, and 1 person to QA |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
with it, plack is production ready as far as I can tell |
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tcohen |
(well, the integration into the packges) |
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cait |
tcohen: almost done with the dateformat one |
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cait |
nengard: you can just come to the room with us :P |
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tcohen |
cait++ |
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nengard |
pretty sure bag will have something to say about that |
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cait |
it's so irritating to see the dates like i expect them!!! |
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druthb |
naah. |
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druthb |
Just tell bag to hush, nengard. You're Serving The Community(tm). |
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cait |
mveron: this patch makes me so happy |
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cait |
20.11.2015 |
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mveron |
cait: I'm happy as well... finally... |
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cait |
did you see my discussion with kyle earlier? |
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* mveron |
will read back |
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cait |
in production instances with fines you have to be careful about switching the dateformat |
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cait |
tcohen: (TODO: fix) < |
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cait |
you need to fix the todo :) |
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cait |
hm what about non-packages instances? is that file used then too? |
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mveron |
cait: There is a note about the date switching problem near the syspref dateformat. Thanks for the hint. |
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cait |
i wonder if we could have a nice script doing it... until accounts are rewritten |
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cait |
maybe this could fix it: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c46b68d28299aefd9 |
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cait |
but it talks about 2 date formats... and we have 4 :) |
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mveron |
Hmm shouldn't the table have the dates in iso format? |
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tcohen |
cait: are you fixing it? |
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cait |
mveron: the dates are in the descriptions |
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cait |
it's messy |
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cait |
and the fines code looks at the generated description and parses the date from there |
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mveron |
Oh, I see... |
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cait |
yeah... it doesn#t sound like a good idea to begin with |
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cait |
but i think we can't fix that for now. |
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cait |
making dinner, bbiab |
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mveron |
enjoy your dinner. I'll have a meeting and I'm back in about 4 hours |
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bag |
morning |
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cait |
morning bag :) |
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bag |
morning cait |
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bag |
@later tell dcook - thanks - I made the suggestion to nengard |
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huginn |
bag: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
mveron-away: ? |
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cait |
tcohen: it's an old bug - the dateformat problem with fines we were discussing. the pref already displays a warning message |
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tcohen |
i didn't mean to talk about that |
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tcohen |
@later tell mveron congrats, please get involved in testing your patchset, we have one week to spot any issues |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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cait |
i think he just left :) |
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nuentoter |
anyone in here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum? |
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misilot |
question about kovadevbox what username and password should I be using for the staff interface? |
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misilot |
should plack just work with the kohadevbox? not sure if I am missing something on setting it up. I can't get to it on 5000 or 5001 and cd /vagrant; prove; fails with the Plack tests |
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xarragon |
Is there any easy way to view which indexes are available in the zebra server? |
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cait |
... easy... |
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cait |
definitionproblem :) |
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cait |
you could probably write something to create a list |
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cait |
i usuallly look in the zebra files directly |
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xarragon |
heh, yeah.. well I know enough Z39.50 and Yaz to perform queries and inspect the result now |
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cait |
starting with the xml file |
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xarragon |
I have looked around a bit in the XML stack, yes. I am after MARK field 001 specifically, which seems to be indexed. |
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xarragon |
There was also a guide on the wiki how to add custom indexes. |
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xarragon |
We might want 003 as well, for example. |
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bag |
misilot: I think maybe you need to use koha-shell |
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xarragon |
So I looked over the Bib-1 definitions, and it seems Bib-1:1028 is called "Stock-number". |
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bag |
and then your tests will pass |
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bag |
I think without it you’re not pulling the KOHA_CONF |
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xarragon |
In Swedish libraries, we store a national ID in that field. That is what I need to look up. |
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misilot |
bag: well it is complaining about it not running (which I cannot access it via localhost:5001 from the host computer) ... will try koha-shell |
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xarragon |
Buuut, I can't seem to query it properly. |
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bag |
right also I think you have to use package commands to start up plack |
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misilot |
oh? |
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bag |
misilot: do you get anything if you type — ps aux | grep starman |
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drojf |
xarragon: 001 is Control-number |
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xarragon |
So I am not sure if Bib-1 actually maps BIB-1:1028 to MARC:001 |
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misilot |
bag: no |
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bag |
or try ps aux | grep plack |
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drojf |
xarragon: does that help? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b7b34f01;hb=HEAD |
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misilot |
bag: no |
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bag |
ok misilot I don’t think it’s running then |
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xarragon |
drojf: Yes.. Is that field reserved for something else? Or what does that entail? |
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xarragon |
drojf: Ah, that file. i have looked at it here locally, thanks. i might go through it again now that I am more familiar with Z39.50 |
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drojf |
xarragon: what do you mean by reserved? it depends on the use, locally or in your union… usually a record would be identified by 003+001, eg in a union catalogue. koha does not really do that though |
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xarragon |
drojf: Ok, that is exactly what we do with it. |
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drojf |
that#s what it's for, AFAIK :) |
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xarragon |
drojf: I just need to know how to search that field then. |
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drojf |
maybe that link is better http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6765bf1b9;hb=HEAD |
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drojf |
you should be able to see the field numbers and index names |
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reiveune |
bye |
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xarragon |
drojf: Right, I will look |
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drojf |
you can also ask zebra what indexes are known. that does not really tell you what is in there though http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing |
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xarragon |
drojf: Ah, there's what I am looking for. |
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bag |
also misilot are you using anisble? |
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cait |
1028 is theattribute - should be something different |
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misilot |
bag: possibly? All I did was $ git clone https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox.git; $ cd kohadevbox; $ cp config.cfg-sample config.cfg (set values); $ vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier; vagrant up (and changed from chef to their new name) |
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cait |
xarragon: 001 is Control-number |
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xarragon |
drojf: I was playing around with the metadata (zebra::*) in the SRU yesterday. |
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bag |
misilot: same spot - different branch https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]vbox/tree/ansible |
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xarragon |
drojf: But I kept getting error with the URL, so i switched to the yaz client to be able to have a bit more control |
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cait |
stocknumber is a differentfield in marc i think |
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xarragon |
drojf: But then figuring out the syntax for rhe search command, with all the parameter mappings, schemas etc. was a bit overwhelming at first. :-) |
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bag |
misilot: it’s nice you can vagrant up wheezy jessie trusty (all in one command) you get 3 different distros with master installed |
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bag |
misilot: you’ll have to install ansible too |
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drojf |
xarragon: in the opac, a search for Control-number:<yournumber> should work |
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cait |
hm 211 att 9001 Control-number |
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cait |
strange |
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cait |
i didn't expect that to be alocal use one |
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xarragon |
drojf: if that is all that is needed it is awesome |
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cait |
xarragon: didyou take a look at the search chapter in the koha manual? |
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drojf |
xarragon: it's used to link records too. if you use 773/774 and use control numbers to link, the generated links in the opac use it |
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xarragon |
cait: No, I think I have to hang my head in shame here.. Though we started looking at the indexing process since we assumed to have to add a new index anyway |
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xarragon |
drojf: But yes, I get the expected record using yoru search methology. |
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xarragon |
So bug thanks |
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xarragon |
big* |
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xarragon |
drojf++ |
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xarragon |
I was afraid we would have to add new perl stuff to be able to pass paramters for the searching of specific MARC fields. |
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cait |
xarragon: looking the linkup for you |
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xarragon |
cait: It is ok, I have the PDF |
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xarragon |
cait: You don't need to spoon-feed me. |
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cait |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]en/searchfaq.html |
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xarragon |
cait: Thanks! |
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cait |
it's just easy to miss it - but really helpful |
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cait |
not intending to spoon feed you :) |
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misilot |
bag: already use ansible for some of my infrastructure so I have that :) |
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drojf |
time to go home |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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cait |
and actually.. that was the wrong link |
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cait |
...this was the one http://manual.koha-community.o[…]en/searching.html |
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bag |
sweet |
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xarragon |
And to think I was sitting reading through the YAZ-client source code to figure out what I needed to do |
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xarragon |
I need to use koha a bit more I think.. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail; ie: "Let's add some code!" |
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cait |
heh |
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xarragon |
But it is pretty obvious, the MARC-to-search-prefix-mapping is defined in the XML file. |
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xarragon |
I guess everything is easy in hindsight. |
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nuentoter |
Does anyone here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum and converting into usable records? |
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cait |
not me, sorry |
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nuentoter |
well someone may be able to help anyway, first of all when initially exporting my catalog, what format should that file be in? there is no default file extension in winnebago |
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misilot |
bag: i defined git_fullname in vars/user.yml but ansible is complaining it is undefined. Do i need to define it somewhere else? |
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bag |
typo |
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bag |
git_full_name |
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bag |
and you need spaces around them :D |
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bag |
we submitted a patch that was bad :( |
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bag |
in roles/kohadevbox/templates/gitconfig.j2 |
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bag |
you need to change {{git_fullname}} to {{ git_full_name }} |
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misilot |
ok |
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bag |
also anywhere that you see {{git….}} you need a space on each side :) |
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bag |
sorry |
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misilot |
no problem |
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rickx |
Hello everybody |
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rickx |
I'm updating the version of Koha, but it takes a long time and get an error Gateway Time-out |
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rickx |
anyone know how I can increase the runtime? |
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rickx |
or I can run the upgrade process through command line?? |
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wizzyrea |
you can run koha-upgrade-schema <instancename> from the command line |
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wizzyrea |
it will likely pop you many also hi |
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wizzyrea |
wow I should finish one thought before I start another |
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wizzyrea |
it will likely pop you many errors since you've already started it, but those will be ok, probably. |
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bag |
hi wizzyrea |
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rickx |
is there any way to modify the parameters of apache to wait until the process ends? |
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wizzyrea |
probably, but if your db is that out of date, you'd probably rather run the update from the command line. |
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cait |
hm could it have finished anyway? |
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cait |
on the server? |
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wizzyrea |
or if you have that many rows that need updating |
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wizzyrea |
hi bag |
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pianohacker |
hi bag |
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bag |
pianohacker: now, hello there |
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pianohacker |
bag: now, how brown cow |
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bag |
not I said the brown cow |
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rickx |
I see no end by missing tables |
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cait |
? |
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Brooke |
kitty feeding time |
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bag |
pianohacker: mug of espresso - yes please |
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pianohacker |
that's like 4 double shots |
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pianohacker |
sounds like a good start to an afternoon |
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Francesca |
morning |
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wizzyrea |
morning |
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wnickc |
afternoon |
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wahanui |
afternoon is good |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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mveron |
Good night / daytime #koha |
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bag |
@wunder pdx |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 9.1°C (1:43 PM PST on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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bag |
96% eh and you’re calling that a Drizzle :P |
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pianohacker |
light suffocation more like |
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bag |
BobB: hi there |
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wahanui |
hi, bag |
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BobB |
hi bag |
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bag |
how was your trip to San Fran? |
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BobB |
LA actually |
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BobB |
wonderful |
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bag |
ah one of those Calfornia massive cities |
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BobB |
we have the cutest granddaughter on the planet |
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bag |
did you all read the wallaby book to her? |
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bag |
err your daughters favorite book? |
| 22:15 |
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BobB |
LOL, not yet, she's six weeks old now |
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bag |
you can always read to her :D |
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BobB |
I can see us next year reading to her over OpenTok or Google hangouts :) |
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bag |
awesome! I’m glad you all had a chance to meet her :) very precious |
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BobB |
very precious indded |
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BobB |
I have to head out to a meeting' |
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BobB |
I'll sort the fundraising meeting date over the weekend |
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BobB |
catch ya |
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bag |
later BobB have THE fun! |
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tcohen |
hi |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4502: Changing wording again... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9fee2518a462d8a7> / Bug 4502: An attempt to make things more sensible. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c54eddd68670be7f7> / Bug 4502: Catch software error if no active budget defined <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; |
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tcohen |
mveron++ |
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