| Time |
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Message |
| 00:20 |
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dcook |
eythian: Were you the one that linked that wesome i18n youtube video? |
| 00:20 |
|
dcook |
Maybe it was cjh... |
| 00:20 |
|
eythian |
twas me |
| 00:21 |
|
dcook |
What's the title or link again? |
| 00:21 |
|
* dcook |
is going to include it in an email :p |
| 00:21 |
|
eythian |
it's by tomm scott |
| 00:21 |
|
eythian |
-m |
| 00:21 |
|
dcook |
Beauty. Cheers |
| 00:21 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: internationalisation |
| 00:21 |
|
wahanui |
eythian: what? |
| 00:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j74jcxSunY |
| 00:21 |
|
dcook |
winning, both of you |
| 00:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY this one is pretty good too. |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Prepare for yet another Zebra email ;) |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
I don't know how ES or Solr would do it either though.. |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
"it" being... |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
How to treat "special" characters |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
In Danish, å and aa are the same thing |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
But they sure aren't in English |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
So you might be able to specify that rule at search time, but what do you do at indexing time? |
| 00:23 |
|
* dcook |
's head explodes |
| 00:24 |
|
dcook |
You also can't map å to a in Danish, I think, as those are completely different characters |
| 00:24 |
|
dcook |
Although for sorting purposes, maybe you can get away with it |
| 00:25 |
|
* dcook |
imagines that Indexdata must be as sick of hearing from him as koha-devel :p |
| 00:26 |
|
eythian |
my hypothetical solution was to note the language the record was in and use that information when ES analyses it. |
| 00:26 |
|
eythian |
not sure if it'd work, I didn't give it a lot of thought |
| 00:28 |
|
eythian |
I don't think I would consider doing full dumps a few times per day any sort of best practice. |
| 00:29 |
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| 00:29 |
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cait |
hm yeah |
| 00:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
sigh. |
| 00:33 |
|
dcook |
The only thing is that records aren't necessarily in just one language :/ |
| 00:33 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I wouldn't do multiple full dumps a day |
| 00:33 |
|
dcook |
I certainly wouldn't consider it "incremental" either |
| 00:36 |
|
dcook |
I'd never heard of incremental MySQL backups though... although it looks perhaps like it's an "enterprise" thing? |
| 00:36 |
|
dcook |
Ah, I guess you could use the binary logs.. |
| 00:37 |
|
* dcook |
is going to stop being sidetracked... |
| 01:00 |
|
cait |
bag++ |
| 01:00 |
|
cait |
hm i think we might backup transaction logs? |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
I don't know if transaction logs are necessarily that useable though |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
I think you can playback binary logs? |
| 01:02 |
|
* dcook |
pretends not to be distracted |
| 01:04 |
|
cait |
heh |
| 01:05 |
|
cait |
i think you can restore with what we have to a certain hour during a day |
| 01:05 |
|
cait |
but i might got the name wrong |
| 01:09 |
|
* dcook |
shrugs |
| 01:15 |
|
eythian |
dcook: if records contain multiple languages and you can't flag them on a field-by-field basis, you've already lost. |
| 01:18 |
|
eythian |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnOE-m-UdQA <-- cait, when you visit Amsterdam again, beware you don't end up on the wrong train |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Yeah, I think we've already lost as well. |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
I guess DSpace does flag things on a field by field basis... |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
MARC-- |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
I'm thinking an intermediary format would be awesomesauce |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
But it would have its own challenges... especially as library folk are hardwired for MARC |
| 01:22 |
|
dcook |
Well, except the ones who've never heard of it...>_> |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
which is most of them |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
people seem to forget that |
| 01:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ |
| 01:23 |
|
eythian |
dcook: you saw my talk slide about that... |
| 01:24 |
|
eythian |
(specifically, it was this image: https://eutopialaw.files.wordp[…]syndrome-logo.jpg ) |
| 01:25 |
|
cait |
heh |
| 01:29 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
I was thinking about this recently... |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Why do libraries want to use MARC? |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Well, copy cataloguing |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
So you need to be able to ingest MARC |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Easy |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Do they really need to be able to export it? Perhaps... |
| 01:30 |
|
rangi |
not really no |
| 01:30 |
|
rangi |
pretty much no one wants it |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
Well maybe not "want" |
| 01:31 |
|
cait |
hmm not sure that's true |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
But it's a requirement a lot of the time |
| 01:31 |
|
rangi |
national libraries want quality records |
| 01:31 |
|
rangi |
not your locally catalogued stuff |
| 01:31 |
|
cait |
i think it depends on the type of library |
| 01:32 |
|
rangi |
i can't think of anything, other than another library, that would ever want a MARC record |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, I see what you're saying rangi |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
Possibly another system |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
Like an aggregator/discovery/whatever thing |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
And just for lack of another standard |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 01:33 |
|
cait |
use cases i can think of are union catalogs |
| 01:33 |
|
cait |
rds |
| 01:33 |
|
cait |
databases |
| 01:33 |
|
wahanui |
databases are not automated. |
| 01:33 |
|
cait |
and i have had all that happen |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
yes, just other libraries |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
no one else in the world wants it |
| 01:33 |
|
cait |
also... if you ever want to switch to another ils |
| 01:34 |
|
rangi |
then your marc records probably have to be massaged/fixed anyway |
| 01:34 |
|
rangi |
which takes about as long as making them |
| 01:34 |
|
* rangi |
has done a few migrations now :) |
| 01:34 |
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| 01:34 |
|
cait |
we migrated only from one system that gave us marc so far |
| 01:34 |
|
cait |
and it was the fastest one |
| 01:35 |
|
cait |
the fastest migration |
| 01:35 |
|
dcook |
rangi: I was thinking a bit about bibliographic data and the rest of the world... |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
I suppose that's why Worldcat is a thing |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
No reason why so many libraries need to have their own copies of Record X |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
The library just needs access points for physical and electronic resources |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
I need to write a blog post and link it for LODLAM... |
| 01:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
the reason is because of rule 123. |
| 01:36 |
|
rangi |
i dont think there is any need to store it as MARC anymore |
| 01:37 |
|
rangi |
hasnt been for 20 odd years |
| 01:37 |
|
dcook |
Agreed |
| 01:37 |
|
dcook |
Well at least not internally |
| 01:37 |
|
tcohen |
jared set a great starting point with Koha::MetadataRecord |
| 01:37 |
|
dcook |
Maybe serialize it as MARCXML inbetween systems, although even then... |
| 01:38 |
|
rangi |
tcohen: yep, he did, we should revisit that |
| 01:39 |
|
* dcook |
always meant to look at that |
| 01:39 |
|
dcook |
Not me volunteering though :p |
| 01:40 |
|
* dcook |
has his hands full with Zebra and all the other things.. |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
But yeah, we don't have to use MARC with Zebra either |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
We could use any XML format |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
I was actually thinking about that too... |
| 01:40 |
|
tcohen |
dcook: leave the MARCXML alone, add other formats :-D |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
That's what I mean :p |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
Well, MARCXML would have to go |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
The only thing I would want is to be able to import/export |
| 01:41 |
|
tcohen |
and why not put patron data there too? (ES or Zebra) |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
But not use it internally |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
I don't know if there would be any advance to that |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
advantage* |
| 01:41 |
|
tcohen |
we end up writing weird code trying to implement some relevance sorting when we have the tools to do it right |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
Hmm? |
| 01:41 |
|
rangi |
yup |
| 01:42 |
|
dcook |
What do you mean about relevance sorting? |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
I mean auto-complete features |
| 01:42 |
|
rangi |
we can index users in ES |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
you cannot give them just an alphabetic sort |
| 01:42 |
|
dcook |
Ahh |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
it becomes useless |
| 01:42 |
|
cait |
we coul dindex everything there... and have facets :) |
| 01:42 |
|
cait |
orders... with facets for the vendor... the date... |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
index all the things! |
| 01:43 |
|
tcohen |
I knew a librarian would embrace it :-D |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
I wonder sometimes how difficult it would be to separate MARC out.. |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
Probably a million times harder than my wildest imagination |
| 01:45 |
|
rangi |
i reckon just ingest it, stick it somewhere, and never touch it again |
| 01:45 |
|
bag |
yeah I really want to index users in ES - that’s something coming down the road |
| 01:45 |
|
bag |
when we’ve got the time |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
rangi: I like that idea, although I wonder how many libraries will want MARC out |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
the longer we keep showing people MARC, the longer we prolong the problem |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
no one should ever see it |
| 01:46 |
|
cait |
true |
| 01:47 |
|
cait |
it's not for users |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
true true |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
When I say someone, I mean a library/librarian |
| 01:47 |
|
rangi |
creating MARC records isn't hard |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
Creating accurate ones isn't easy :p |
| 01:48 |
|
rangi |
if someone really wants one |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
The leader and controlfields can be... less than fun |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
Although who really pays much attention to those anyway |
| 01:48 |
|
dcook |
The core content would be easy enough to export as MARC |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
And if we have an extensible internal format, it's not necessarily that hard to add new fields if we need them |
| 01:49 |
|
* dcook |
still wishes he understood linked data better |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
I think it has to rely on a local cache... |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
Otherwise you couldn't index anything |
| 01:50 |
|
dcook |
And then you must refresh your cache from the linked source.. |
| 01:50 |
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tcohen |
dcook: you need to feed a search engine, it is easier to have them locallyç |
| 01:51 |
|
eythian |
search engines need a steady supply of human flesh, after all. |
| 01:51 |
|
dcook |
^ |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
tcohen: So you feed the search engine a local cached version... do you also display that local cached version? |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
I find the idea of importing linked data interesting.. |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Which is probably a uniquely library problem |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Well maybe not.. |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
But the idea that you'd write your own linked data records for your holdings... |
| 01:52 |
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tcohen |
dcook: why not think another use cases? like importing a thesaurus |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Because you need to describe what you have/have access to.. |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
tcohen: A thesaurus is general though, so that should be easy enough |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
What I mean is.. |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
You have Records 1-100 |
| 01:54 |
|
dcook |
Or rather... Items 1-100 |
| 01:54 |
|
dcook |
And you can get records 50-100 from the national library |
| 01:54 |
|
dcook |
But you have to write your own 1-49 records |
| 01:54 |
|
dcook |
So you write your records... maybe link to the national library for authorized terms or to their thesaurus |
| 01:54 |
|
dcook |
But then you import the other 50-100? |
| 01:55 |
|
dcook |
Who would want your data? |
| 01:55 |
|
dcook |
It's not necessarily unique |
| 01:55 |
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tcohen |
dcook: do you want them to be searchable from a UI for the end user? |
| 01:55 |
|
dcook |
Of course |
| 01:55 |
|
dcook |
No point having them if the user can't search for htem |
| 01:55 |
|
dcook |
them* |
| 01:55 |
|
tcohen |
you need to grab them, each time you want to index them |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Right |
| 01:56 |
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tcohen |
i'd have a local cache, probably through OAI sets harvesting or smth like that |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
So you have multiple caches? |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
One for the original record, and one for the dereferenced record? |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
The dereferenced record gets fed to your search engine and shown to users |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
The original is used to update the dereferenced records |
| 01:58 |
|
dcook |
You get the original records either via OAI-PMH or manual cataloguing or some other method... |
| 01:58 |
|
dcook |
I've been thinking about duplicates with that scenario as well... |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
In theory, the URI/IRI for the records you harvest via OAI-PMH will still point to the original source |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
But... you're hosting those records now |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
So surely you'd need to re-write that |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
e.g. <bf:Text rdf:about="http://bibframe.org/resources/sample-lc-1/148862"> |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
And then how do you serialize that for other people who want to link to your content? |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
50-100 are just copies from the national library |
| 02:01 |
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dcook |
I should put that in the blog post :p |
| 02:09 |
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tcohen |
dcook: it needs to simplify things, otherwise something is not ok |
| 02:14 |
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cait |
night all |
| 02:14 |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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dcook |
tcohen: How do you mean? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15199: t/db_dependent/Review.t should not depend on existing data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c46b68d28299aefd9> / Bug 14954: Remove unused C4::Calendar::addDate subroutine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e34e54a900c59326c> / Bug 14954: (followup) Display exceptions in syspref format <http://git.koha-commu |
| 03:21 |
|
tcohen |
I really like Firefox Developer Edition |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
it's not terrible :) |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
(but I've only used it a little) |
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wizzyrea |
well that is a weird bug. |
| 03:46 |
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wizzyrea |
select all -> add to list from a result page gives you double ups in your list. |
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wizzyrea |
(that'll be 3.20.5, not master. I haven't checked master) |
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Francesca |
home at last |
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Francesca |
an entire day of python is hard work |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlf |
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huginn |
Francesca: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (5:00 PM NZDT on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 37.0°C (3:00 PM AEDT on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
37... sounds about right |
| 04:35 |
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dcook |
It's a bit warm out there |
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Francesca |
nicer than here |
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dcook |
12 degrees isn't bad |
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dcook |
I don't mind the 37 so much as I'm in an office now :p |
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dcook |
air conditioned office* |
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dcook |
These boots sure trap the heat though |
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Francesca |
lol |
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saa |
is it possible to customize metadata fields as per document type in koha and see them in opac and staff client. we have a collection of videos and we wanted to add video duration, editor, director etc. as metadata fields and they should also be available on staff client and OPAC |
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saa |
can someone guide us doing it in koha |
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saa |
is it possible to customize metadata fields as per document type in koha and see them in opac and staff client. we have a collection of videos and we wanted to add video duration, editor, director etc. as metadata fields and they should also be available on staff client and OPAC |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
@later tell rangi when i woke up, koha-under-plack would not play well with memcached again |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
Good morning / daytime #koha |
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hie |
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June |
Hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, June |
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June |
I need help setting up SRU web services for KOHA |
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June |
Using Zebra, I am able to retrieve the records in XML format. |
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June |
But I couldn't get the records in DC format. |
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June |
is there anything I need to change in config file? |
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June |
does anyone know how to solve it? |
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June |
this is working link http://127.0.0.1:9999/biblios?[…]ordSchema=marcxml |
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June |
If I set recordSchema=dc, I get an error <uri>info:srw/diagnostic/1/66</uri> <details>dc</details> <message>Unknown schema for retrieval</message> |
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reiveune |
hello |
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June |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi June |
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magnuse |
June: try oai_dc? |
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June |
magnuse recordSchema=oai_dc? |
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June |
it is same error |
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June |
http://127.0.0.1:9999/biblios?[…]cordSchema=oai_dc |
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magnuse |
ah, sorry i was mixing up sru and oai-pmh |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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* magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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morning #koha |
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June |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi June |
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June |
could you please help me |
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June |
:D |
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magnuse |
June: i think the available formats should be specified in your koha-conf.xml, under <server id="publicserver" listenref="publicserver"> |
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magnuse |
but i suspect at least for normarc there is something wrong with the config there, so the only available format is marcxml |
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cait |
morning mveron :) |
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mveron |
cait: Good morning :-) |
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cait |
mveron: lots of progress yesterday :) |
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mveron |
I atteched a follow-up to bug 14870 but wait with testing |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
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cait |
i tihnk only 3 bugs now? |
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mveron |
And yes, its a great progress |
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cait |
i have to leave soon, but will be back late afternoon |
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mveron |
cait: Thanks a lot! |
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June |
Thanks mveron. I will give a try |
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mveron |
June: Thanks! I will also do some more tests on my latest patch on 14870 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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mveron |
@wunder Basel |
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mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 15.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 3.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.29 in 992 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
kinda looks like it might snow |
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connected again |
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mveron-away |
Lunch... |
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wahanui |
well, lunch is a good idea :) |
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tcohen |
i really like 3.22 |
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tcohen |
morning |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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tcohen |
khall? |
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wahanui |
khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) |
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khall |
what's up? |
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tcohen |
re bug 15032 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
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tcohen |
did u or piano have any progress? |
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mveron |
Hi again everybody :-) |
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khall |
tcohen: I haven't, I'll have to check with piano |
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andreashm |
ah, another Swedish university library choses Koha! sweet! |
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magnuse |
woohoof or gothenburg! |
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gaetan_B |
good news andreashm :) |
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tcohen |
fridolin: can someone at biblibre restart the jenkins server? |
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xarragon |
Anyone know a basic tutorial on Z39.50/yaz? |
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fridolin |
tcohen: mmh, i is not in our servers i think |
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fridolin |
I ask |
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* mveron |
counts remaining bugs for C4::Dates and dd.mm.yyyy date format: 2 (in words: two): Bug 14870 and Bug 12072 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
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@wunder torrevieja |
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liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 19.4°C (2:31 PM CET on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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andreashm |
OT question: anyone have any good documentation of the history of Evergreen? or good examples of history/forming of other open source communities? Apart from Koha, I think Hydra is a nice example. |
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bag |
good morning :) The sun is shining |
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bag |
@wunder portland or |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Portland - West Hills, Portland, Oregon is 4.8°C (7:57 AM PST on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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bag |
chilly but sunny - I’ll take it |
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xarragon |
Is there a way in zebra to search a specific MARC record field? |
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xarragon |
Possibly AND:ed together with another one? |
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xarragon |
And is that expressable through the Koha interface? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* mveron |
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pianohacker |
@later tell cait We have a partner asking about bug 8753. May I ask if there are any QA concerns I could help with? |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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* cait |
waves |
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bag |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi bag :) |
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bag |
man I run a test and it fails - stop to say hi to cait and now it passes |
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cait |
heh |
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bag |
good luck charm cait |
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cait |
try running it again? |
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cait |
which one is t? |
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cait |
i had hat happen recently... fails once, passes all the timeafter that |
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bag |
prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/Returns.t |
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bag |
I think I left out a step cait - I must have tested then applied patch - then said hi - then tested again :P |
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cait |
also an option :) |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, tcohen |
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tcohen |
@seen jenkins_koha |
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huginn |
tcohen: jenkins_koha was last seen in #koha 6 days, 20 hours, 55 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <jenkins_koha> tcohen: you're so kind to me! |
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* cait |
had a lovely day away from the computer |
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tcohen |
can anyone reboot jenkins :-D ? |
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cait |
hm biblibre? |
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wahanui |
well, biblibre is everywhere ;) |
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tcohen |
which one baG? |
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bag |
tcohen is all good :) just following the test plan… It’s all good :D |
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cait |
bag++ |
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cait |
:) |
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* mveron |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
so, anyone who's around, please give http://www.koha-community a try |
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wizzyrea |
(it should be working fine, let me know if it isn't) |
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ibeardslee |
seems fine to me |
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wnickc |
works with a .org at the end :b |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
yay |
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wizzyrea |
thanks ibeardslee :) |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
hello tcohen |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: do u know who has access to the jenkins server? |
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wizzyrea |
I am sure rangi does |
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wizzyrea |
but I'm not sure who else, maybe the wiki knows |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration shame - it's not documented. we should find out and write it down |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]istration#jenkins.koha-community.org tcohen, for when you find out |
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eythian |
hi |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: in the meantime have some one fire it up should work |
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cait |
me waves |
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* cait |
waves even |
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cait |
oh now i missed tcohen |
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eythian |
it's because you waved wrong |
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wizzyrea |
THERE IS NO WRONG WAVING. |
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* Dyrcona |
waves odd |
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wizzyrea |
nope, still right. |
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cait |
heh thx wizzyrea! |
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pianohacker |
cait: did you see the bug I poked you about? |
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cait |
i was gone all day today |
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cait |
let me take a look now |
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pianohacker |
oh kk |
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pianohacker |
it's not urgent, just looking for info |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
it hit qa queue after feature freeze |
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cait |
sadly - because i'd like to have that too |
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cait |
we are focusing on bugs for now - until the release is out |
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pianohacker |
so you've been taking a breather? That makes sense |
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cait |
? |
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pianohacker |
I'll tell them it'll get a look later on once the 3.24 cycle gets rolling |
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pianohacker |
thank youuuuuu |
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cait |
if breather = break - then nope :P |
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cait |
just focusing on bugs vs enh for now |
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pianohacker |
heh, well, from big features |
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cait |
because bug fixes still get pushed |
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pianohacker |
thank god ;_; |
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pianohacker |
thanks for helping me get that rancor bugfix in quickly |
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cait |
got a quick sign-off - |
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cait |
hector++ |
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pianohacker |
yup |
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pianohacker |
indeed |
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cait |
wizzyrea: the list bug sounds bad |
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cait |
do you know if someone is owrking on it? |
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wizzyrea |
I don't |
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pianohacker |
list bug? |
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wizzyrea |
idk about "bad" but it's pretty annoying |
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wizzyrea |
idk how many people "select all -> add to list" |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, I do that when I'm testing lists because it's an easy way to get a ton of stuff in a list. |
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pianohacker |
a bug number, my kingdom for a bug number |
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wizzyrea |
bug 15203 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15203 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , select all -> add to list from a result page in the OPAC gives you double ups in your list |
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pianohacker |
gracias |
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pianohacker |
that, um. |
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wizzyrea |
note I haven't tried in master. |
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cait |
i think it's OPAC... so bad |
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cait |
very bad |
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cait |
hm lt me check that whie the tests run :) |
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wizzyrea |
ah yeah, it still does it on master |
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cait |
hm wierd it works ok for me |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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pianohacker |
cait: it's not _losing_ data |
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cait |
opac - result list - select all - add to new list? |
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pianohacker |
in fact, it's kindly making sure you have two copies of it! |
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wizzyrea |
pianohacker: can you replicate it? |
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wizzyrea |
it is possible that I have something weird about my db or something. |
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pianohacker |
um lemme try |
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cait |
wizzyrea: i can't add the same records twice... |
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wizzyrea |
it's not explicitly adding them twice |
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cait |
my list stays at 20 entires = 1 result list hm. |
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wizzyrea |
let me look at what's in the database |
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wizzyrea |
"List deleted with success." lol this message. |
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wizzyrea |
that's aside. |
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wizzyrea |
it is definitely displaying double ups on the list result page for me |
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wizzyrea |
and only when select all |
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wizzyrea |
but it's not putting doubles in the db |
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pianohacker |
wft |
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wizzyrea |
was that a wfm or a wtf? |
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pianohacker |
what's a wfm? |
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pianohacker |
cause the answer may be both |
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wizzyrea |
works for me |
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pianohacker |
oh |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: can't dup |
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cait |
wizzyrea: hm checing the views again |
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wizzyrea |
that's so weird. I can get it every time |
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cait |
private or public list? |
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wizzyrea |
I tried with both |
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cait |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1447883251.png |
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* wizzyrea |
reindexes |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi is it possible to kick the jenkins server, just in case it wakes up? |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
tcohen: i think he is in chch today - see twitter |
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wizzyrea |
oh. don't hit me |
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eythian |
he is |
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wizzyrea |
please don't |
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cait |
wizzyrea: can we tickle? |
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wizzyrea |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
that is fine |
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eythian |
@fish wizzyrea |
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huginn |
eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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eythian |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
no I don't want to be slapped by a trout. |
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cait |
wizzyrea: doubles up records in your db? |
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wizzyrea |
>.< yes |
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* wizzyrea |
dumps that database, we are breaking up for good. |
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* cait |
sends chocolate |
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cait |
... I had a bad bugzilla day yesterday too |
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wizzyrea |
that completely explains the database though |
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wizzyrea |
of course it's got the 20 in there. because there were 10 records, twice. Ugh. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
how do i best find hte one suppressed record in my db... |
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cait |
ah . sql. |
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wizzyrea |
yeah. |
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wizzyrea |
how come normarc isn't an option in the installer, don't we support it? |
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wizzyrea |
just curious |
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wizzyrea |
I don't actually care that it's not there |
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wizzyrea |
but someone might. |
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cait |
hm i think it only appars for norwegian |
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Francesca |
good morning |
| 21:56 |
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wahanui |
well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
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cait |
i think the normarc sample data/frameworks etc. only exist in the norwegian web installer |
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cait |
so it doesn't get listed when you run it in another language |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
bless you all for putting up with my dumb questions |
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pianohacker |
that's not actually a dumb question |
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pianohacker |
I would have been surprised by that too |
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cait |
wizzyrea: ... i just did one of those fail qas where immediaely after you hit 'save' in bugzilla, you know it's your fault |
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wizzyrea |
<sympathy> |
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pianohacker |
I knew it! |
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eythian |
http://www.itchyfeetcomic.com/[…]ativity-pt-2.html <-- cait |
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cait |
eythian: heh |
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cait |
hm go wheel i would translate to drive wheel... |
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cait |
and i have no idea about into-the-groundening |
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eythian |
that doesn't make it better |
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cait |
we have 'under-the-earth-bringing' tho... |
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wizzyrea |
hm. I'm thinking about how we "hide" setting permissions |
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pianohacker |
? |
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eythian |
cait: is potato "ground apple" there too? |
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wizzyrea |
I just had the rather daft thought that maybe that function should be a tab on the side |
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wizzyrea |
instead of under "more" |
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cait |
that depends on where you ask people in germany :) |
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eythian |
fair enough :) |
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Francesca |
lol ground apple |
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cait |
wizzyrea: hm not sur aboutthe tab... we already got so many and it only applies to a few users |
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pianohacker |
yeah... |
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* eythian |
notes that "orange" (the colour) in English comes from "orange" (the fruit.) Not the other way around. |
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pianohacker |
the interface could use some love tho |
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Francesca |
interface? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that interface is optional. |
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Francesca |
what for? |
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cait |
eythian: and most of those words are very fitting! |
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eythian |
cait: sure, but not creative :) |
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cait |
pf |
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eythian |
good poing |
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cait |
what's a naked snail in english? |
| 22:10 |
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wizzyrea |
slug |
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eythian |
what is with "pferd" anyway? |
| 22:10 |
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eythian |
who puts "pf" like that? |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
horse? |
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wizzyrea |
permissions is both a function and a view |
| 22:11 |
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eythian |
also pfepper or however you say it :) |
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cait |
pfeffer |
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cait |
= pepper |
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eythian |
that's right |
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wahanui |
no it's not. |
| 22:11 |
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wizzyrea |
Francesca: for the borrower details/circulation pages |
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Francesca |
oh |
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Francesca |
cool |
| 22:12 |
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wizzyrea |
that more menu is a hodgepodge of "stuff" |
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* Francesca |
just pays attention to the idea that something needs prettying up |
| 22:13 |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
like the more at the top :) |
| 22:13 |
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wizzyrea |
I've never been sure why cataloguing was under "more" |
| 22:14 |
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wizzyrea |
it's 50% of the reason a librarian might use Koha |
| 22:14 |
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cait |
hm and tools |
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wizzyrea |
(give or take) |
| 22:14 |
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pianohacker |
yes |
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pianohacker |
there should be a rancor button in the top toolbar |
| 22:14 |
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pianohacker |
instant rancor |
| 22:14 |
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cait |
with a little dinosaur? |
| 22:14 |
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pianohacker |
I think the star wars character would make a lumpy, angry icon |
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wizzyrea |
http://images.fun.com/products[…]-rancor-plush.jpg |
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pianohacker |
hehehe |
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wizzyrea |
actually I'd love to fix up the tools page. |
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wizzyrea |
oh there was another thing I wanted to do to the label creator too. |
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wizzyrea |
I wanted to add that "tools" sidebar to it |
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wizzyrea |
to match many of the other tools |
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cait |
ew |
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cait |
wizzyrea: i'd like that |
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cait |
maybe add a bug? |
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wizzyrea |
yeah actually that's an omnibus, there are quite a few tools that don't have it |
| 22:17 |
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wizzyrea |
uneven in application :/ |
| 22:17 |
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wizzyrea |
there are probably tools that aren't listed in the sidebar too |
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wizzyrea |
that... will be a challenge on the "tags moderation" page because of the filters that are already in that sidebar. |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
that's going to take some thinking |
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eythian |
https://imgur.com/V9IMBIr |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
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mveron |
good night / daytime #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hum, did we know that deleting quotes makes the interface hang at "processing" |
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wizzyrea |
TypeError: this.oApi._fnServerParams is not a function |
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wizzyrea |
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1447886014.png \o/ |
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Francesca |
I want to make it greener somehow |
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Francesca |
buut thats just me |
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wizzyrea |
nah, green is bad for colour blind people |
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* Francesca |
thinks guiltly of the dashboard |
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eythian |
green for differentiation can be bad |
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eythian |
for decoration I think it's OK |
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cait |
yeah red/green as indicators for something are not good |
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Francesca |
thats good |
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wizzyrea |
(I like green for decoration, but not for things like links) |
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Francesca |
mmm |
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wizzyrea |
if you looked at me whilst coming in to work today, you'd realise that I actually quite like green, generally. :) |
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tcohen |
khall_away: I love the font awesome icons |
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cait |
i think they appear... clearer? |
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wizzyrea |
they are |
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cait |
somehow |
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wizzyrea |
they scale better. |
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cait |
yeah |
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tcohen |
they look polished |
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tcohen |
even if they are… similar |
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wizzyrea |
I think they're vector |
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tcohen |
is that thing… |
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cait |
svg i tink |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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tcohen |
yes, they are |
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cait |
some look a bit or more different to before |
| 22:46 |
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wizzyrea |
our designers were asking about adding fontawesome yonks ago |
| 22:46 |
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wizzyrea |
so they were pretty excited when I told them :) |
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Francesca |
font awesome? |
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cait |
not sure if it's availalbe for opac yet |
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wizzyrea |
it's only a matter of time amirite |
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Francesca |
what is font awesome? |
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cait |
and someone has to do it heh :) |
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wizzyrea |
Francesca could do that :0 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
Francesca: svg picture you can use like characters in a font |
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Francesca |
oh cool |
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cait |
... but someone else can probalby explain it better |
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Francesca |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
google knows everything ^.^ |
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cait |
i hope not :) |
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Francesca |
and so does wahanui |
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wizzyrea |
well it knows everything about font awesome :P |
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cait |
okok :) |
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Francesca |
this looks awesome |
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wizzyrea |
I'd hope so, since it's got "awesome" in the name. |
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* Francesca |
makes a note to use font awesome on one of her old webpages |
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Francesca |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
you should do that, and then go through the opac and fix the icons everywhere to use font-awesome |
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Francesca |
I could do that yeah - how do I get to the opac though |
| 22:50 |
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tcohen |
can we focus on bug fixes? for a couple days? |
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tcohen |
we will then revamp the whole project |
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tcohen |
bag will take care |
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tcohen |
heh |
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Francesca |
I can do pretty stuff once bug fixing is done |
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eythian |
just rewrite it in java |
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bag |
:) |
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bag |
I’m looking at bugs :) that’s my day |
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tcohen |
no no Francesca |
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tcohen |
the pretty stuff cannot wait! |
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Francesca |
yay! |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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Francesca |
well let me set up font awesome on my own page first |
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Francesca |
then I shall turn my attention to the opac |
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wizzyrea |
yep, that's a sound plan |
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Francesca |
might not get started on the opac till tomorrow though - have choir stuff this afternoon |
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Francesca |
I'm looking at this font awesome stuff and wishing I'd known about it before |
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Francesca |
its just so awesome |
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dcook |
Thanks for QAing that bug, cait :) |
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dcook |
You're a legend! |
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cait |
... when is say it looked just easier than the sip bug next to it... will that destroy that reputation? |
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dcook |
Nah, still a legend :) |
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cait |
it's not quite true either |
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dcook |
That it was easier? |
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cait |
we have fallen for the opacsuppression trap a lot of times |
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cait |
i think it's a good fix |
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wizzyrea |
Francesca: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14915 looking at the patches for this might give you an idea of where to start or how to go about it. |
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huginn |
Bug 14915: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Use Font Awesome instead of Glyphicons for the staff intranet |
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cait |
it certainly was - i still need to get my sip test enviornment working again |
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Francesca |
wizzyrea: thanks I'll take a look at those |
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tcohen |
Francesca: a good strting point would trying to make the main submit button on the staff interface match the rest of the interface's style |
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Francesca |
I can also take a look at that - just not right now as I have to do other stuff |
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wizzyrea |
yep, there's no rush really |
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Francesca |
so much fun! so much stuff to make pretty! |
| 23:03 |
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cait |
Francesca++:) |
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dcook |
cait: I'm glad you liked it :) |
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dcook |
barton|away: I hope that all my Zebra emails have been helpful ;) |
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dcook |
cait: It's unfortunate that the opacsuppression patch is needed, but hopefully that will reduce the number of headaches and support calls over that issue |
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bag |
nice job barton chili |
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barton|away |
dcook: they are 'helpful' much in the way that Mt. Everist is 'big'. |
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barton|away |
:-) |
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bag |
gonna run some updates on my computer wish me some lucks (hopefully I return :) ) |
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cait |
fingerscrossed :) |
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dcook |
Last time I ran some updates on my laptop, I spent a fair while afterwards re-installing everything... |
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dcook |
So bonne chance! |
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* bag |
knocking on wood and all that |
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dcook |
barton|away: :p |
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dcook |
I think in the future it might be worthwhile to use the Zebra and YAZ from Indexdata's repositories rather than the Debian ones... |
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dcook |
The Debian maintainer for Zebra doesn't seem all that keen on maintaining it |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
Perhaps one of us could take over maintaining |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
it |
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dcook |
... |
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barton|away |
hmm. |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
I'm going to have a baby soon, so not it. |
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dcook |
:p |
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* dcook |
thinks tcohen is also a legend |
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dcook |
tcohen++ |
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dcook |
cait++ |
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barton|away |
hm. that's a bit more than I want to bite off. |
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dcook |
I want to do a lot of projects, but I know my limits... |
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barton|away |
I'd vote the same way :-) |
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tcohen |
dcook: i can build a debianzebramaintainerbox vagrant with all you need for maintaining it |
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cait |
wnickc++ |
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barton|away |
by the way dcook, your email about zebra logging was a piece of awesome that I wasn't expecting. |
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tcohen |
easy |
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dcook |
tcohen: Well, I am intrigued by the technical aspects... but I think the political aspects would be the tougher part |
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dcook |
I don't necessarily want to commit to a role that I couldn't invest in |
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dcook |
I'm already overworked as it is... although of course right now I'm in IRC, but that's probably a testament to how much work I have at the moment... |
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dcook |
Need a few minutes to breathe between things |
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wnickc |
cait++ all the time |
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barton|away |
@dcook++ all the time, when it comes to zebra. |
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huginn |
barton|away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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tcohen |
zebra is ok, but it is no longer a profitable project for indexdata (it hasn't been for a while) so we need to move away from it, ASAP |
| 23:20 |
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tcohen |
it is a legacy project |
| 23:20 |
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tcohen |
for them |
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cait |
kind of a pity.... we finally start to figure out all th things |
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cait |
and all the mistakes we made... |
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tcohen |
we should've taken advantage of DOM a long ago! |
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tcohen |
opacsupression would be a candidate |
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tcohen |
calculating vailable items ,et |
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tcohen |
c |
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tcohen |
many things we do *after* we get the data from Zebra |
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tcohen |
I hope we do it right in ES |
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cait |
hope it doesn't take us as long to learn from past mistakes at least... |
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tcohen |
i think zebra will be around for another year and maybe more |
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cait |
i think probably more |
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tcohen |
so probably worth fixing a couple things hm |
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cait |
i'd say so |
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cait |
... and when i wake up... someone has magically signed off Bug 14870 - Delete C4/Dates.pm from System please? :) |
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cait |
the last missing pieces to get rid of C4::Dates for good... |
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* tcohen |
forgot to announce string freeze! |
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tcohen |
oh s*it |
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pianohacker |
oh spit |
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cait |
night all |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
