Time  Nick        Message
00:08 * dcook     doubts that Zebra is going anywhere soon...
00:08 dcook       And while we're moving away from version numbering... I think changing the indexing would be a good candidate for that
00:08 dcook       Or changing how we handle metadata...
00:08 * dcook     goes back to researching other things
00:09 dcook       Trying to track down contact information... you learn a lot about a person's past :S
00:10 dcook       Or about people with the same name and similar past :p
01:46 wizzyrea    @later tell cait none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones.
01:46 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
01:46 wizzyrea    @later tell tcohen none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones.
01:46 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:18 mtompset    eythian: Why? Why? Nooooooooooo. :)
03:18 eythian     mtompset: has to be done :)
03:18 dcook       Travelling around the world for work is pretty awesome
03:19 * dcook     gives a thumbs up
03:19 eythian     dcook: pfft, what would you know? ;)
03:19 dcook       hehe
03:19 ibeardslee  eythian: no, didn't have to be done
03:19 mtompset    dcook: Unless you country of citizenship wants to disown you after 5 years. ;)
03:20 mtompset    ^you^your^
03:20 eythian     what country does that?
03:21 mtompset    Well, Canada doesn't disown you, but you lose the right to vote.
03:22 mtompset    Not to mention residency requirements take at least 3 months to kick in when you return, if you were unfortunate to lose your residency because you stayed out of country too long.
03:23 eythian     ah. It's unclear in NZ on our site. I couldn't enrol to vote if away for three years, but I'm already enrolled, so I don't know what that means.
03:23 mtompset    Depends on if they refresh the voters lists each election, I suppose.
03:24 dcook       The elections thing is vague anyway
03:24 dcook       I haven't been gone for 5 years yet, but I still was ineligible
03:24 eythian     they don't, once enrolled, always enrolled I think
03:24 mtompset    Unless the politicians want to mess you up. :)
03:24 dcook       "confirm that they intend to return to Canada to reside by providing the date on which they intend to resume residence in Canada" http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/etr&document=index&lang=e
03:24 dcook       I don't have any intent to return at this time
03:25 dcook       The five year rule seems to apply more to Canadians who are temporarily non-residents
03:25 dcook       I'm an emigrant :p
03:26 mtompset    Silly you.
03:26 mtompset    :)
03:26 dcook       I love Canada, but Australia is pretty good.
03:26 eythian     ah, I can't vote if I haven't been to NZ in the past three years
03:26 dcook       I'm sure everyone I know in Canada will be cursing my name in about... 4-8 weeks if they're not already
03:26 dcook       37 degrees yesterday ;)
03:26 eythian     but even a quick visit counts
03:26 dcook       eythian: Interesting
03:26 wahanui     i heard Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:26 mtompset    How about I curse it now for you. ;)
03:27 mtompset    @wunder l7e5y5
03:27 huginn      mtompset: The current temperature in Wilshire-Thornhill, Vaughan, Ontario is 11.1°C (10:16 PM EST on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
03:28 Francesca   @wunder wlg
03:28 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
03:30 dcook       Canada Elecctions Act (S.C. 2000, c. 9) s. 222 (1) c http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/E-2.01/page-65.html#docCont
03:30 dcook       Christ, I can't remember how to do legal citations properly anymore...
03:31 dcook       Law is a funny thing in how vague it can be sometimes
03:31 dcook       "Intentions" make their way into all sorts of laws
03:31 wizzyrea    tfw you have to re-indent everything just to understand wtf is going on.
03:31 dcook       I suppose it does with manslaughter vs murder too of course..
03:31 dcook       wizzyrea: Hmm?
03:31 wizzyrea    I was just looking at a very weirdly nested template.
03:32 dcook       Paragraph 222(1)(c). There we go.
03:32 dcook       Ahhh
03:32 * dcook     hates re-indenting
03:32 dcook       Also when someone mixes tabs and spaces in Python source
03:32 dcook       That's fun
03:32 wizzyrea    oh jeez. yeah nah.
03:32 dcook       Well, not so bad if you're able to switch the tabs to spaces..
03:32 dcook       "yeah nah" love it
03:33 wizzyrea    well I also had to re-do most of the divs on the page because it wasn't done properly originally :/
03:33 wizzyrea    so that caused a bunch of re-indenting as well
03:33 wizzyrea    not just doing it for funsies.
03:33 wizzyrea    definitely not funsies.
03:34 dcook       Hurray for improving it for others :)
03:34 mtj         hey eythian, giz a ping if you end up in town after work, tmrw
03:35 ibeardslee  he will probably be in town after whisky tomorrow
03:35 eythian     mtj: odds are I won't be in town on Friday but I'm having drinks on Saturday afternoon at HZ
03:35 eythian     ibeardslee: I'll probably just be wanting to sleep :)
03:35 dcook       ^
03:35 ibeardslee  soft
03:35 mtompset    Oh, who has edit capability for the www.koha-community.org site?
03:36 ibeardslee  I've been getting early nights all week in preparation
03:36 mtompset    https://www.koha-community.orgfiles/2010/02/wayne-state-university-koha-3.0-reference-manual.pdf is missing a /
03:37 mtj         eythian: cool, saturday arvo at HZ could be doable too :)
03:37 mtompset    http://http//manual.koha-community.org/3.2/fr/ is missing a :
03:37 eythian     wizzyrea: ^
03:37 dcook       Actually, is there a git for the website... I think there is
03:38 wizzyrea    mtompset: which page are you looking at
03:38 dcook       Hmm maybe not
03:38 mtompset    documentation
03:38 wahanui     documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
03:38 wizzyrea    it's not really practical to keep the wordpress in git.
03:39 wizzyrea    how about now
03:39 wahanui     hey now now, sing this corrosion to me
03:40 mtompset    French is fixed.
03:40 wizzyrea    \o/
03:41 mtompset    3.0 link busted still
03:41 wizzyrea    I'm wondering if it's time to retire those.
03:42 mtompset    What is the furthest back we have released in the last 6 months?
03:42 mtompset    I'd be tempted to create an archived documentation page.
03:43 wizzyrea    3.16
03:43 wizzyrea    hm, I guess we had one 3.14
03:44 mtompset    I'd keep back to 3.14 on the documentation page, but not lose those old files and create an archived documentation page which is unlinked, but provideable on request.
03:45 mtompset    Probably mention it as an HTML comment on the documentation page, so that it doesn't get lost in the anals of time. ;)
03:46 mtompset    Anyways, I should go get sleep.
03:46 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea eythian dcook ibeardslee Francesca mtj
03:46 wizzyrea    later mtompset
03:46 eythian     later
03:46 mtompset    and irma :)
03:46 Francesca   bye!
03:46 wizzyrea    (also that's not a project for today, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow ;)
04:15 dcook       eythian: Anathema just popped up on my playlist ;)
04:15 eythian     :D
07:22 * magnuse   waves
07:25 magnuse     no string freeze yet?
07:30 reiveune    hello
07:53 fridolin    bonjour all
07:55 alex_a      bonjour
08:19 * cait      waves
08:19 cait        bbl
09:09 mveron      Hi again #koha
09:10 Amit_Gupta  hi all
09:12 mveron      hi Amit_Gupta
09:18 magnuse     translating - such fun!
09:34 cait        magnuse: lol
09:36 magnuse     cait: do you know anything about string freeze?
09:36 cait        that's the day, when...
09:36 cait        nope
09:37 cait        i think tomas said last night he forgot to announce it
09:37 magnuse     ah
09:37 magnuse     and do you know if pootle will be updated again?
09:39 * magnuse   hopes not
09:41 * mveron    waves
09:45 Amit_Gupta  heya mveron
09:57 magnuse     huh? "opac.pref Restricted page"
09:58 cait        hm?
09:58 cait        some kind of proxy page i think
09:59 cait        i hink ys, but it should not be so much
10:00 magnuse     ok
10:02 magnuse     ah yes, i think the restricted page was for e.g. journal databases that use the referer to authorize access for users
10:12 cait        i tihnk maybe we shoudl rename it to be more clear
10:12 cait        Page for restricted access
10:12 cait        or something like that
10:12 cait        hm or Proxy page for resources with restricted access?
10:15 magnuse     that would be very clear, if not very short :-)
10:16 cait        i will take clear over short sometimes...
10:16 cait        and it would still be shorter than the german translation :)
10:36 magnuse     @wunder boo
10:36 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 AM CET on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
11:34 drojf       hi #koha
11:38 drojf       cait: lol
11:44 cait        jm?
11:44 cait        hm?
11:45 cait        a later i left ages ago?
11:53 cait        hm no khall :(
11:57 drojf       cait: yes
12:01 cait        drojf: ohok
12:13 tcohen      morning
12:16 cait        morning tcohen
12:16 cait        you are too early.. i am not done yet! :)
12:17 tcohen      I need to go to the bank
12:17 tcohen      so i'll be back in 2 hours
12:17 cait        oh good :)
12:25 magnuse     have fun tcohen
12:33 cait        ashimema ping
13:05 * mveron    waves
13:05 * cait      waves back
13:05 mveron      :-)
13:19 ashimema    pong
13:19 ashimema    wat up cait
13:21 mveron      cait: What is the meaning of "Upcoming events" in opac-messaging.tt ? Is it really "Veranstaltungstipps" in German?
13:24 cait        ah
13:24 cait        mveron: it never was fully implemented
13:24 cait        ashimema: was wondering if you could help me with the dates patches
13:24 mveron      Ok...
13:24 cait        i am working on a sign-off for bug 15067
13:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add additional languages to advanced search language search
13:24 cait        hm not that
13:24 wahanui     not that is a probably - you'll just need to learn a few new techinques
13:25 cait        bug 14870
13:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System
13:25 mveron      Oh yes please please... :-)
13:27 cait        and there is khall too :)
13:28 cait        is there a good reason we display branch and itemtype codes only on the return page?
13:29 * cait      files a bug
13:56 cait        khall: saw the test - will try to take a look in a bit!
13:56 khall       excellent!
13:56 khall       thanks!
13:56 cait        khall: and thx for qa :)
13:57 khall       np!
13:57 cait        we are getting there :)
13:57 cait        https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers
14:00 cait        as i have roped ashimema in to look at bug 14870... someone interested to check 15207?
14:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System
14:05 cait        Die C4::Dates, die!
14:06 * drojf     cheers cait on
14:06 cait        ashimema++
14:06 * mveron    cheers everybody on...
14:06 drojf       hi mveron :)
14:06 cait        ashimema: waiting for the status switch here to cheer heh
14:07 mveron      ashiema++ (for signing off and for finding the typo:  date sting)
14:07 ashimema    cait++ for signing off..
14:07 ashimema    she spotted the typo ;)
14:07 * mveron    had many date stings...
14:07 ashimema    I jus qa'd it after her :)
14:07 mveron      cait++
14:07 mveron      hi drojf :-)
14:08 cait        i think 3 patches to be resolved now:
14:08 cait        bug 15032
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , (Plack) Stage MARC records for import breaks in Plack
14:08 cait        bug 15076
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15076 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Remove file misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl
14:08 cait        argh, not that one.
14:08 cait        bug 15207
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15207 major, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Failed QA , Error on upgrade from 3.20.5 to 3.22 beta
14:08 cait        that one.
14:08 wahanui     that one is down more often than up
14:08 cait        and bug 12072
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
14:08 cait        why can i never get any numbers right? *grump*
14:08 cait        i am lookin gat the last one onw
14:09 * mveron    sends his spare glasses to cait...
14:09 cait        he thx
14:09 cait        i just had an eye check yesterday :)
14:10 * ashimema  needs an eye check
14:10 ashimema    so..
14:10 ashimema    your looking at 12072 right cait
14:10 ashimema    in your trello..
14:10 ashimema    whats the difference between NSO and Bugs?
14:11 ashimema    are Bugs new stuff since 3.22 beta?
14:11 cait        ashimema: bugs = not ready for sign off - although the update problem bug has some, i think there is a problem there people need to figure out. so good to take a look maybe
14:12 cait        for the plack one tomas might have a workaround - but he is afk currently and it's not on bugzilla yet i think
14:12 ashimema    cheers
14:14 cait        and thx for helping :)
14:16 ashimema    Man i wish were were using deployment handler..
14:16 ashimema    but alas.. it was declared as too expensive with regards to dependancies..
14:29 cait        khall: do you now if we have a script that works if you want to change your dateformat setting? bit worried becuase of the big bold warning :( Note: Do not change this preference on a production server with  overdue items that are accruing fines. Doing so will result in duplicate  fines!
14:29 cait        ashimema: are you looking at the database update one?
14:30 khall       cait: not that I'm aware of. It gets even more complicated when you add the timeformat in!
14:30 cait        hm could the sscript we were about to remove be a start?
14:30 khall       cait: this is one major reason I did the accounts rewrite. The way it works right now it is "fragile" to say the least.
14:30 cait        i'd really like to move our databases to the new format :)
14:31 cait        yeah i totally understand that
14:31 cait        i hope we can work towards it next release
14:31 khall       cait: I don't think so, it doesn't even take the time into account!
14:31 ashimema    yikes
14:31 ashimema    the db one yeah.. sorta looking at it..
14:32 khall       what we need is a script where you specify a from date and time format, and a to date and time format
14:32 cait        hm the time didn't change
14:32 cait        timeformatis the same
14:32 ashimema    whilst juggling some non-blocking code I'm writing.
14:32 cait        ah
14:32 cait        hm i have no overdues in my database...
14:33 cait        khall: do you think it would be enough to just change the strings? in our case we'd replace / with .
14:33 khall       cait: I'm not sure what you mean
14:33 cait        ah, i want to switch production installations from dd/mm/yyyy to dd.mm.yyyy :)
14:34 khall       ah, I see. A regex via mysql should fix that up
14:34 khall       If you change *all* /'s to .'s you'll end up with duplicate fines
14:35 khall       you need to change just the due date and only the due date
14:35 cait        ok
14:35 cait        so only for overdue lines
14:35 cait        mesy
14:35 cait        messy
14:36 khall       yep, that's why the rewrite goes by issue_id and not the description
14:36 khall       some day I'll get that rewritten
14:37 cait        yeah, it should have never done that
14:37 * ashimema  also want's to do an account re-write
14:37 ashimema    along with an auth rewrite
14:38 cait        can we look you 2 in a room for 2 weeks and sign of the patches falling out?
14:41 nengard     i'd love that
14:41 nengard     cait++
14:41 nengard     hehe
14:41 cait        we'd even send in food... if you send out patches :P
14:42 ashimema    haha
14:42 druthb      cait++
14:44 magnuse     cait++
14:47 nengard     uh oh - koha community seems to be planning on kidnapping ashimema and khall and locking them in a room ....
14:47 nengard     we have 3 votes for :)
14:48 cait        hehe
14:50 ashimema    can we have pianohacker, tcohen, rangi and colinc too?
14:50 ashimema    and any other's I've missed out 'cause my fingers got tired
14:51 cait        heh
14:52 cait        now i want to be INSIDE the room too
14:52 cait        ...
14:56 nengard     hehe
14:56 nengard     and i can't give you khall and pianohacker ... i need one of them here :)
14:58 tcohen      hi ashimema
14:59 ashimema    hi tcohen
14:59 tcohen      i'm filling a bug, that I want to fast-track :-D
14:59 ashimema    :)
15:00 tcohen      i need 1 person to sign off, and 1 person to QA
15:00 tcohen      :-D
15:00 tcohen      with it, plack is production ready as far as I can tell
15:00 tcohen      (well, the integration into the packges)
15:07 cait        tcohen: almost done with the dateformat one
15:07 cait        nengard: you can just come to the room with us :P
15:08 tcohen      cait++
15:08 nengard     pretty sure bag will have something to say about that
15:08 cait        it's so irritating to see the dates like i expect them!!!
15:08 druthb      naah.
15:08 druthb      Just tell bag to hush, nengard. You're Serving The Community(tm).
15:12 cait        mveron: this patch makes me so happy
15:12 cait        20.11.2015
15:12 mveron      cait: I'm happy as well... finally...
15:13 cait        did you see my discussion with kyle earlier?
15:13 * mveron    will read back
15:13 cait        in production instances with fines you have to be careful about switching the dateformat
15:14 cait        tcohen: (TODO: fix)  <
15:14 cait        you need to fix the todo :)
15:15 cait        hm what about non-packages instances? is that file used then too?
15:19 mveron      cait: There is a note about the date switching problem near the syspref dateformat. Thanks for the hint.
15:19 cait        i wonder if we could have a nice script doing it... until accounts are rewritten
15:20 cait        maybe this could fix it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl;h=470b84b1ae0b01f1022c458ec831507dcf61fa82;hb=87e7d5555e604043602de73c46b68d28299aefd9
15:20 cait        but it talks about 2 date formats... and we have 4 :)
15:21 mveron      Hmm shouldn't the table have the dates in iso format?
15:22 tcohen      cait: are you fixing it?
15:22 cait        mveron: the dates are in the descriptions
15:23 cait        it's messy
15:23 cait        and the fines code looks at the generated description and parses the date from there
15:25 mveron      Oh, I see...
15:25 cait        yeah... it doesn#t sound like a good idea to begin with
15:25 cait        but i think we can't fix that for now.
15:25 cait        making dinner, bbiab
15:26 mveron      enjoy your dinner. I'll have a meeting and I'm back in about 4 hours
15:44 bag         morning
15:46 cait        morning bag :)
15:46 bag         morning cait
15:52 bag         @later tell dcook - thanks - I made the suggestion to nengard
15:52 huginn      bag: The operation succeeded.
16:05 tcohen      mveron-away: ?
16:06 cait        tcohen: it's an old bug - the dateformat problem with fines we were discussing. the pref already displays a warning message
16:06 tcohen      i didn't mean to talk about that
16:07 tcohen      @later tell mveron congrats, please get involved in testing your patchset, we have one week to spot any issues
16:07 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:08 tcohen      :-D
16:12 cait        i think he just left :)
16:12 nuentoter   anyone in here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum?
16:28 misilot     question about kovadevbox what username and password should I be using for the staff interface?
16:52 misilot     should plack just work with the kohadevbox? not sure if I am missing something on setting it up. I can't get to it on 5000 or 5001 and cd /vagrant; prove; fails with the Plack tests
16:54 xarragon    Is there any easy way to view which indexes are available in the zebra server?
16:55 cait        ... easy...
16:55 cait        definitionproblem :)
16:56 cait        you could probably write something to create a list
16:56 cait        i usuallly look in the zebra files directly
16:56 xarragon    heh, yeah.. well I know enough Z39.50 and Yaz to perform queries and inspect the result now
16:56 cait        starting with the xml file
16:56 xarragon    I have looked around a bit in the XML stack, yes. I am after MARK field 001 specifically, which seems to be indexed.
16:57 xarragon    There was also a guide on the wiki how to add custom indexes.
16:57 xarragon    We might want 003 as well, for example.
16:58 bag         misilot: I think maybe you need to use koha-shell
16:58 xarragon    So I looked over the Bib-1 definitions, and it seems Bib-1:1028 is called "Stock-number".
16:58 bag         and then your tests will pass
16:58 bag         I think without it you’re not pulling the KOHA_CONF
16:58 xarragon    In Swedish libraries, we store a national ID in that field. That is what I need to look up.
16:58 misilot     bag: well it is complaining about it not running (which I cannot access it via localhost:5001 from the host computer) ... will try koha-shell
16:58 xarragon    Buuut, I can't seem to query it properly.
16:59 bag         right also I think you have to use package commands to start up plack
16:59 misilot     oh?
16:59 bag         misilot: do you get anything if you type —  ps aux | grep starman
16:59 drojf       xarragon: 001 is Control-number
16:59 xarragon    So I am not sure if Bib-1 actually maps BIB-1:1028 to MARC:001
16:59 misilot     bag: no
16:59 bag         or try ps aux | grep plack
16:59 drojf       xarragon: does that help? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl;h=604c76a85648224d8d8d36e75ac81980b7b34f01;hb=HEAD
16:59 misilot     bag: no
17:00 bag         ok misilot I don’t think it’s running then
17:00 xarragon    drojf: Yes.. Is that field reserved for something else? Or what does that entail?
17:01 xarragon    drojf: Ah, that file. i have looked at it here locally, thanks. i might go through it again now that I am more familiar with Z39.50
17:01 drojf       xarragon: what do you mean by reserved? it depends on the use, locally or in your union… usually a record would be identified by 003+001, eg in a union catalogue. koha does not really do that though
17:01 xarragon    drojf: Ok, that is exactly what we do with it.
17:01 drojf       that#s what it's for, AFAIK :)
17:02 xarragon    drojf: I just need to know how to search that field then.
17:02 drojf       maybe that link is better http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml;h=6b1fb87baa1a43544075de546bf178b6765bf1b9;hb=HEAD
17:02 drojf       you should be able to see the field numbers and index names
17:03 reiveune    bye
17:03 xarragon    drojf: Right, I will look
17:03 drojf       you can also ask zebra what indexes are known. that does not really tell you what is in there though http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing
17:05 xarragon    drojf: Ah, there's what I am looking for.
17:05 bag         also misilot are you using anisble?
17:07 cait        1028 is theattribute - should be something different
17:07 misilot     bag: possibly? All I did was   $ git clone https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox.git;   $ cd kohadevbox;  $ cp config.cfg-sample config.cfg (set values);   $ vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier; vagrant up (and changed from chef to their new name)
17:07 cait        xarragon: 001 is Control-number
17:07 xarragon    drojf: I was playing around with the metadata (zebra::*) in the SRU yesterday.
17:08 bag         misilot: same spot - different branch https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible
17:08 xarragon    drojf: But I kept getting error with the URL, so i switched to the yaz client to be able to have a bit more control
17:08 cait        stocknumber is a differentfield in marc i think
17:09 xarragon    drojf: But then figuring out the syntax for rhe search command, with all the parameter mappings, schemas etc. was a bit overwhelming at first. :-)
17:09 bag         misilot: it’s nice you can vagrant up wheezy jessie trusty  (all in one command)  you get 3 different distros with master installed
17:09 bag         misilot: you’ll have to install ansible too
17:09 drojf       xarragon: in the opac, a search for Control-number:<yournumber> should work
17:09 cait        hm  211 att 9001    Control-number
17:10 cait        strange
17:10 cait        i didn't expect that to be alocal use one
17:10 xarragon    drojf: if that is all that is needed it is awesome
17:11 cait        xarragon: didyou take a look at the search chapter in the koha manual?
17:11 drojf       xarragon: it's used to link records too. if you use 773/774 and use control numbers to link, the generated links in the opac use it
17:12 xarragon    cait: No, I think I have to hang my head in shame here.. Though we started looking at the indexing process since we assumed to have to add a new index anyway
17:12 xarragon    drojf: But yes, I get the expected record using yoru search methology.
17:12 xarragon    So bug thanks
17:12 xarragon    big*
17:13 xarragon    drojf++
17:13 xarragon    I was afraid we would have to add new perl stuff to be able to pass paramters for the searching of specific MARC fields.
17:13 cait        xarragon: looking the linkup for you
17:14 xarragon    cait: It is ok, I have the PDF
17:14 xarragon    cait: You don't need to spoon-feed me.
17:14 cait        http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searchfaq.html
17:14 xarragon    cait: Thanks!
17:14 cait        it's just easy to miss it - but really helpful
17:14 cait        not intending to spoon feed you :)
17:14 misilot     bag: already use ansible for some of my infrastructure so I have that :)
17:15 drojf       time to go home
17:15 drojf       later #koha
17:15 cait        and actually.. that was the wrong link
17:16 cait        ...this was the one http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searching.html
17:16 bag         sweet
17:18 xarragon    And to think I was sitting reading through the YAZ-client source code to figure out what I needed to do
17:23 xarragon    I need to use koha a bit more I think.. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail; ie: "Let's add some code!"
17:27 cait        heh
17:27 xarragon    But it is pretty obvious, the MARC-to-search-prefix-mapping is defined in the XML file.
17:28 xarragon    I guess everything is easy in hindsight.
17:29 nuentoter   Does anyone here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum and converting into usable records?
17:32 cait        not me, sorry
17:36 nuentoter   well someone may be able to help anyway, first of all when initially exporting my catalog, what format should that file be in? there is no default file extension in winnebago
19:09 misilot     bag: i defined git_fullname in vars/user.yml but ansible is complaining it is undefined. Do i need to define it somewhere else?
19:09 bag         typo
19:09 bag         git_full_name
19:10 bag         and you need spaces around them :D
19:10 bag         we submitted a patch that was bad :(
19:10 bag         in roles/kohadevbox/templates/gitconfig.j2
19:11 bag         you need to change {{git_fullname}}  to {{ git_full_name }}
19:11 misilot     ok
19:11 bag         also anywhere that you see {{git….}}  you need a space on each side :)
19:11 bag         sorry
19:11 misilot     no problem
20:10 rickx       Hello everybody
20:12 rickx       I'm updating the version of Koha, but it takes a long time and get an error Gateway Time-out
20:12 rickx       anyone know how I can increase the runtime?
20:13 rickx       or I can run the upgrade process through command line??
20:15 wizzyrea    you can run koha-upgrade-schema <instancename> from the command line
20:15 wizzyrea    it will likely pop you many also hi
20:16 wizzyrea    wow I should finish one thought before I start another
20:16 wizzyrea    it will likely pop you many errors since you've already started it, but those will be ok, probably.
20:18 bag         hi wizzyrea
20:18 rickx       is there any way to modify the parameters of apache to wait until the process ends?
20:19 wizzyrea    probably, but if your db is that out of date, you'd probably rather run the update from the command line.
20:19 cait        hm could it have finished anyway?
20:19 cait        on the server?
20:19 wizzyrea    or if you have that many rows that need updating
20:19 wizzyrea    hi bag
20:19 pianohacker hi bag
20:19 bag         pianohacker: now, hello there
20:20 pianohacker bag: now, how brown cow
20:20 bag         not I said the brown cow
20:20 rickx       I see no end by missing tables
20:20 cait        ?
21:08 Brooke      kitty feeding time
21:11 bag         pianohacker: mug of espresso - yes please
21:12 pianohacker that's like 4 double shots
21:12 pianohacker sounds like a good start to an afternoon
21:14 Francesca   morning
21:17 wizzyrea    morning
21:18 wnickc      afternoon
21:18 wahanui     afternoon is good
21:19 Francesca   @wunder wlg
21:19 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
21:34 mveron      Good night / daytime #koha
21:43 bag         @wunder pdx
21:43 huginn      bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 9.1°C (1:43 PM PST on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
21:43 bag         96% eh and you’re calling that a Drizzle :P
21:44 pianohacker light suffocation more like
22:13 bag         BobB: hi there
22:13 wahanui     hi, bag
22:13 BobB        hi bag
22:14 bag         how was your trip to San Fran?
22:14 BobB        LA actually
22:14 BobB        wonderful
22:15 bag         ah one of those Calfornia massive cities
22:15 BobB        we have the cutest granddaughter on the planet
22:15 bag         did you all read the wallaby book to her?
22:15 bag         err your daughters favorite book?
22:15 BobB        LOL, not yet, she's six weeks old now
22:16 bag         you can always read to her :D
22:16 BobB        I can see us next year reading to her over OpenTok or Google hangouts :)
22:16 bag         awesome!  I’m glad you all had a chance to meet her :)  very precious
22:16 BobB        very precious indded
22:17 BobB        I have to head out to a meeting'
22:17 BobB        I'll sort the fundraising meeting date over the weekend
22:17 BobB        catch ya
22:17 bag         later BobB have THE fun!
23:12 tcohen      hi
23:16 cait        hi tcohen
23:24 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4502: Changing wording again... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=379329861d19b178f14d360d9fee2518a462d8a7> / Bug 4502: An attempt to make things more sensible. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea7b9b4d444a6bdf3f1326c54eddd68670be7f7> / Bug 4502: Catch software error if no active budget defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
23:27 tcohen      mveron++