IRC log for #koha, 2015-11-05

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03:23 Amit_Gupta hi all
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05:33 * Oak waves
05:33 Oak magnuse
05:40 magnuse Oak
05:47 Oak \o/
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06:03 Francesca hello
06:03 wahanui what's up, Francesca
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07:22 mveron Good morning /daytime #Koha
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07:36 magnuse hiya mveron
07:36 magnuse @wunder boo
07:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
07:37 mveron hiya magnuse
07:37 mveron @wunder Allschwil
07:37 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
07:39 mveron Nice weather for "Basler Herbstmesse" and for BuchBasel
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07:58 reiveune hello
08:01 magnuse bonjour reiveune
08:02 reiveune salut magnuse rangi
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08:58 mveron Hmm, this warning seems to be new:  Subroutine HasOerdues redefined at (...)Koha/Template/Plugin/ line 52
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08:59 mveron It appears when calling koha/members/
08:59 mveron ...and hi again everybody
09:00 mveron Subroutine HasOverdues
09:07 Joubu hi #koha
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09:14 Francesca @wunder wlg
09:14 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
09:24 magnuse @wunder boo
09:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 7.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
09:24 magnuse our winter, your summer ;-)
09:24 Francesca my spring actually
09:24 magnuse i know, i know, it will backfire...
09:25 Francesca not much difference in temps there though
09:26 Francesca @seem gmcharlt
09:26 huginn Francesca: downloading the Perl source
09:27 Francesca ugh wrong command
09:27 Francesca @seen gmcharlt
09:27 huginn Francesca: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> xarragon: yes - I'll be curious to see if that just ends up being a shot across the bow with the end result of ES providing the details on security patches that Debian-security wants
09:30 magnuse @seems_like gmcharlt
09:30 huginn magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes
09:30 magnuse uhhuh
09:30 magnuse @quote get 123
09:30 wahanui
09:30 huginn magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
09:31 Francesca I love that
09:31 Francesca @quote random
09:31 huginn Francesca: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
09:41 magnuse that's not very random :-)
09:42 Francesca @quote random
09:42 huginn Francesca: Quote #264: "<druthb> Grokking someone else's code is still trying to reverse-engineer someone else's brain." (added by wizzyrea at 11:50 PM, June 26, 2013)
09:42 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
09:42 Francesca lol
09:48 * cait waves and dives back into support tickets
09:48 * Francesca waves back at cait
09:49 Francesca right I should be sleeping, night magnuse, cait, #koha
10:04 cait Joubu++!
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10:04 June Hello
10:04 cait hi June
10:05 June Hi Cait
10:05 June I would like to ask something about KOHA
10:05 cait just ask away
10:05 cait people will anwer when they can
10:05 cait or if they know the answer that is
10:06 June I am newbie to KOHA and Linux
10:06 June I have successfully installed KOHA on debian.
10:07 June but, I am getting issues when I install Restful for webservices using this link
10:07 cait can I ask why you want to install it?
10:07 June do you mean webservices or KOHA?
10:08 cait the restul bit
10:08 cait it's an addition to Koha, so not really needed in most cases
10:08 cait it's also kind of separate to koha, so i can't really help installing it - yur best bet would be to ask someone from Biblibre
10:08 cait jajm: around?
10:08 June i would like to call it from mobile application
10:09 cait there are several built in api's that youcould use as well
10:09 jajm cait, yes
10:09 cait can you read back jajm? June has a question about koha restful
10:10 cait June: this is a list of other available APIs that might be useful:[…]supported_by_Koha
10:10 jajm June, what issues do you have with koha-restful ?
10:10 xarragon Hi guys.. When using dbix/koha objs and I need to replace a value in a column with another one (like a foreign key), how do I do that?
10:10 xarragon Is it possible to modify dbix resultsets, changing the type etc?
10:11 xarragon Right now I just convert it to a regular hash manually and modifies as I go.
10:11 xarragon I used a foreign key before but the test framework did not seem to handle fk to the same table.
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10:11 cait xarragon: sorry, no idea - maybe ask again a bit later, when some others are around
10:12 xarragon I guess I might just use a where clause or join to map the id to the title of that column instead
10:12 June jajm I don't know how to test koha-restful after installation
10:12 xarragon cait: Thanks, I don't assume that you will answer every single question i have though. :-)
10:12 cait :)
10:13 June cait, I found Koha /svc/ HTTP API support only a few funcationalites
10:14 cait June: true, the APIs lsited there don't cover all functionality
10:14 cait it depends on what you want to do a lot
10:14 jajm June, you could use a rest client like[…]addon/restclient/
10:14 June I don't know how to use others apart from web services
10:15 June jajm, I use chrome rest client. here is my testing link
10:15 June I am getting 404 Not Found
10:16 June when I run prove t/rest in Linux terminal, it shows Cannot detect source of 't/rest'! at /usr/share/perl/5.14/TAP/Parser/ line 263
10:16 June I don't know what's wrong with my installation
10:18 jajm June, where did you find that url ? I think you are mixing koha-restful and the official Koha rest api ([…]bug.cgi?id=13799)
10:18 huginn Bug 13799: new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API
10:20 magnuse June: all test files should end in .t
10:21 June I follow steps by steps follow this link
10:22 jajm June, try something like this: GET[…]/
10:23 jajm should be OPAC
10:24 June still getting 404 not found
10:24 jajm June, did you follow the README ?
10:24 June yes
10:25 June when I try[…]vc/authentication
10:25 June it returns status OK
10:26 jajm June, is OPAC or Staff interface ?
10:27 June OPAC
10:27 June 8080 is staff interface
10:29 jajm weird, there is no /svc/authentication at opac
10:30 jajm June, which version of Koha ?
10:30 June 3.20
10:33 June In Koha /svc/ HTTP API,  it mentions to try with $ curl http://koha-dev:8080/cgi-bin/k[…]vc/authentication . so , I try with this link[…]vc/authentication
10:33 June it's ok
10:34 jajm June, it seems there is something wrong in your http server configuration, but anyway, koha-restful doesn't work well with Koha >= 3.20
10:35 jajm June, if all you need is retrieving borrowers data, you could use ILS-DI webservice
10:36 xarragon Well a right join solved my problem, now I just ned to see if dbix supports it.
10:36 June I think I didn't  install restful properly.
10:38 June all I want to access through webservice is to checkout, checin in and borrowers data
10:40 June jajm, is there any documentation how to use ILS-DI webservice?
10:40 jajm June, koha-restful doesn't handle checkins/checkouts
10:40 June sorry that I am totally new to KOHA, Linux and Perl.
10:41 June oh, really.
10:41 June what webservice can I use for checkin/checkout
10:42 jajm June, don't be sorry about that ;)
10:42 jajm June, try for ILS-DI documentation
10:43 magnuse might have to activate a syspref first?
10:44 jajm yes, I forget it every time :)
10:46 jajm June, 2 system prefernces to check in staff interface: "ILS-DI" and "ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs"
10:46 jajm preferences
10:46 wahanui preferences are all lines
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10:48 June how to activate a syspref?
10:49 June I can access ILS-DI documentation only in staff interface
10:51 jajm June, then your staff interface is the OPAC... or there is really something wrong with your server configuration :)
10:52 jajm June, this is OPAC: http://translate.koha-communit[…]alresults-rss.png
10:52 June :D
10:52 June sorry
10:52 June then I can access ILS-DI from OPAC
10:54 jajm June, for sysprefs, go to staff interface and use the top menu "More > Administration", then there is a textbox to search sysprefs
10:56 June then go to web services tab?
10:56 jajm yes
10:57 June thanks jajm, already enabled and set the IP
10:58 June btw, ILS-DI doesn't support for checkin, checkout?
10:59 cait June: i think only SIP2 does that atm :(
11:00 magnuse and sip2 is... interesting...
11:01 jajm :)
11:02 June will it be too complicated to setup SIP server?
11:06 June Thank you all for your reply.
11:06 June it really helps me a lot.
11:06 June I gotta off now.
11:12 Joubu @later tell tcohen Barcodes.t passes here
11:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:13 cait hi Joubu
11:13 Joubu hi cait
11:13 cait wil you have time to take a look at the dates patches by chance?
11:15 Joubu I will try, yes
11:17 cait that would help a lot, thx!
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11:36 * cait waves
12:09 cait @later tell tcohen ping :)
12:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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12:26 mveron ...back. Hi again everybody
12:27 drojf hi #koha
12:27 drojf hi mveron :)
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12:27 mveron hi drojf :-)
12:32 tcohen morning
12:32 tcohen hi cait
12:32 cait morning :)
12:32 tcohen hi Joubu
12:32 cait i have a question - koha on jessie - any known problems?
12:32 tcohen nope
12:33 drojf you need 3.20 i think
12:33 Joubu tcohen: o/
12:33 drojf maybe that is not true anymore, nor sure what was the reason
12:34 tcohen The grs-1 tests were failing on newer zebras
12:34 tcohen and 3.20 had grs-1 deprecated
12:34 tcohen that's a possible cause of that conclusion
12:34 tcohen truth is that no one took the  time to check "why"
12:34 tcohen well, it is fixed now, so
12:35 drojf mveron: could you add me for testing bug 14969 on trello? don't want to get an account. also mtompsett used my initials already :D
12:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
12:35 tcohen grs-1 could work (on 3.18 in jessie) with a small tweak on the config files
12:35 cait we are only using dom
12:36 tcohen I work on jessie, and didn't notice any specific problem
12:36 cait but not running it in productin yet?
12:36 tcohen nope
12:37 drojf hm you probably cannot add me when i dont have an account. sorry, need more caffein
12:37 tcohen we use U14.04
12:37 drojf also for spelling. caffeine
12:37 tcohen drojf and mveron: don't you ever sleep?
12:38 drojf tcohen: unfortunately, no
12:38 * mveron ...sends a double espresso to drojf
12:38 drojf awesome!
12:38 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf
12:39 cait tcohen: ah ok, we are using Debian, do you know if someone else might run Jessie already?
12:39 mveron tcohen: Sometimes...  :-)
12:39 tcohen cait: maybe jajm knows?
12:39 drojf hm maybe i'll have to get an account for your bug managing facebook thing then :P
12:39 * mveron fetches a double espresso as well
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12:42 jajm cait, i run koha on jessie too, as well as some of BibLibre customers
12:44 magnuse i run one customer on jessie + plack + gitified
12:44 magnuse cait ^
12:44 drojf tcohen: do you have to add me to trello or can i do that on my own? i fail to see how
12:45 tcohen drojf: send me your trello email account on a pm
12:45 mveron drojf: I added a comment to 14969
12:45 tcohen to make it faster
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12:49 drojf mveron: thanks. added myself now too
12:49 mveron Ok :-)  - Let's play cards :-)
12:50 drojf does it have games? :D
12:51 drojf oh its organized in cards. sorry, have never used it before :)
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12:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15098: Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group <[…]c38b9a5b67bfd4220> / Bug 15123: Acquisition: Better context for "Transferred from..." to avoid ambiguity... <[…]963155468e12b4eda> / bug 15112: Make greybox consistent size a
13:02 druthb o/
13:05 magnuse \o/
13:05 cait :)
13:05 cait thx all for the answers
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13:20 tcohen hi alex_a
13:20 alex_a hello tcohen
13:28 khall tcohen: found a fix for bug 14743!
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13:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14743 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , redirect problems under plack behind apache 2.4.10
13:28 tcohen !!!!
13:29 khall the cause of the error was quite surprising, looks like under plack  multiple instances of the same named form input are concated together
13:29 khall this is definitely something developers need to know about
13:31 tcohen khall: sounds scary :-D
13:32 khall yeah, it took me a while to realize the id was invalid. I was too focused on the redirect.
13:32 magnuse @later tell jcamins a norwegian maker of dehydrated sauces is withdrawing their Béarnaise sauce from the market because it might contain traces of eggs
13:32 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
13:33 khall under normal CGI you'd just get back the first instance of an input when using ->Vars but apparently that is not true of[…]I/Emulate/
13:33 drojf wow. nice catch khall
13:33 khall thanks!
13:34 magnuse khall++
13:34 drojf khall++
13:35 tcohen khall++
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13:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14781: Creation of barcode types 2of5 not functional <[…]1cf3cbcf68030649e> / Bug 15083: Remove acqui/ <[…]d113dc4253b312d99> / Bug 14157: Notices tab in the patron record should not depend on EnhancedMessagingPre... <http://git.koha-community.
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13:59 jcamins magnuse: have you been reading Løk?
13:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9468: DBRev <[…]d110b47d805d6d4d5> / Bug 9468: (QA followup) Remove GetSupportList dependency from <[…]2b7b245393b7f3e0d> / Bug 9468: followup insert ignore <[…]=commitdiff;h=01b
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14:06 mveron Joubu: I fixed Bug 14956 - The birthday date in Opac
14:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl
14:08 tcohen khall: did u ask someone to sign on 14743 ?
14:08 khall tcohen: no I have not
14:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14836: (QA followup) Add missing transaction <[…]67a86494053995087> / Bug 14836: (QA followup) Fix number of unit tests <[…]352a763f911103b54> / Bug 14836: Add tests for Koha::Patron::Categor[y|ies] <[…]p=koha.git;a=comm
14:10 tcohen :D
14:13 mveron tcohen ++
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14:15 magnuse jcamins: the onion?
14:16 jcamins Yes.
14:17 magnuse no
14:18 drojf mveron: i broke 14969
14:18 drojf sorry :)
14:19 magnuse jcamins:[…]allergi/41780445/
14:35 mveron drojf ++
14:35 mveron Break everything you can...  :-)
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15:02 cait mveron: hint - remove the space to make it count :)
15:02 cait drojf++
15:02 cait @karma drojf
15:02 huginn cait: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 45 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 45.
15:02 cait drojf ++
15:02 cait @karma drojf
15:02 huginn cait: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 45 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 45.
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15:26 jcamins magnuse: one of us is confused, and I'm pretty sure it's the the company.
15:27 jcamins :)
15:28 drojf i went into and all i got was this lousy headache
15:32 drojf we retrieve every search result one by one from zebra to build the html?
15:32 jcamins drojf: at least we're not still parsing the results 2-3 times to generate facets.
15:33 drojf are you sure?
15:33 jcamins No.
15:33 drojf because there was something in there that looked like it
15:33 jcamins But I thought tcohen sent me a screenshot when he merged a patch that fixed it.
15:34 drojf i have only scrolled over that and already forgotten, until you said it
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15:38 drojf using an external zebra server must be pretty slow that way
15:39 jcamins Not really... our processing is so slow that the speed of communication with the Zebra server is basically irrelevant.
15:39 jcamins :D
15:39 drojf lol
15:39 drojf that's good news
15:40 cait jcamins: the zebra facets too slow problem sadly remains :(
15:51 jcamins cait: oh.
15:51 jcamins Well, tcohen's solution was really cool.
15:53 cait i am not sure if it was among the things lost with the old laptop, hope not
15:59 cait bye all
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16:09 gaetan_B bye
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16:51 mveron If anybody has a good idea to rescue Bug 14969 I would not oppose :-)
16:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
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16:51 mveron Will be back in about 6 hours
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18:27 huginn pianohacker: unknown tag 690
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19:24 drojf trello?
19:24 wahanui trello is frowned upon.
19:24 drojf that does not really help
19:24 rangi
19:25 drojf i know :) but the url to the koha project?
19:25 rangi dunno, dont use trello
19:25 drojf of course i forgot the password on the way from the office back home
19:26 rangi heh
19:26 drojf i thought i saw your account in there :P
19:26 rangi yeah i maed one once
19:26 drojf and forgot the password on the way home? :D
19:26 rangi yup
19:27 rangi i think wizzyrea has nearly got the community taiga up and working
19:27 drojf awesome!
19:27 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf
19:28 rangi probably not in time to use for this release, but should be handy for going forward
19:28 rangi and because its FOSS, we should be able to hook it to bugzilla
19:28 rangi such that, we can make comments appear on the bug, if someone moves the status, or vice versa
19:29 drojf looking at trello, copy and pasting a bug number to open it in bz like i just did is also a great workflow
19:29 drojf found the link
19:29 rangi cool
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20:08 * andreashm waves
20:08 * cait waves
20:11 andreashm hi cait
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20:11 cait hi andreashm :)
20:12 andreashm cait: still mad busy?
20:12 cait kind of, but done with the travelling
20:12 cait only 6 more work days... until vacation :)
20:12 andreashm how did the migration go? (there was one right? or did I dream of that)
20:12 andreashm vacation sounds wonderful.
20:13 cait went well (i think)
20:13 andreashm vacation sounds wonderful.1
20:13 andreashm bah
20:13 andreashm misstyped
20:14 andreashm was going to write "great!" but ended up with that instead. Impressive.
20:15 cait heh
20:15 cait 1 = great?
20:15 andreashm apparently
20:15 wahanui i think apparently is vitally important to librarians
20:15 wizzyrea yeah the taiga should be going
20:15 wizzyrea oh wait there was one thing I needed to fix
20:16 andreashm I was trying to type ! but slipped and pressed the up key and then enter. very skillful indeed
20:16 cait impressive ;)
20:17 rangi wizzyrea: just created a user, seemed to work fine :)
20:18 wizzyrea :)
20:18 wizzyrea \o/
20:18 andreashm cait: I'm an impressive speller. yessir
20:18 andreashm taiga?
20:18 wahanui it has been said that taiga is easy
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20:25 wizzyrea and that last little thing is fixed so have at it at
20:28 * andreashm created an account! looks nice, but now what?
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20:28 wizzyrea I think whoever has the big board
20:28 cait i am in!
20:28 wizzyrea has to either make it public
20:29 wizzyrea or add you all as team members
20:29 cait big board?
20:29 wizzyrea the project, thingie
20:29 wizzyrea 1s, let me see what I can do here
20:29 cait hm i createda project
20:30 wizzyrea right, so we only, I think, want one project
20:30 wizzyrea well, there can be lots of projects
20:30 wizzyrea but we probably want a master project
20:30 cait hm can't find anyone:(
20:31 * andreashm neither
20:31 cait i better stop messing things up
20:31 wizzyrea lol
20:32 rangi probably want someone to set up a project first then invite others maybe
20:32 wizzyrea yeah I was doing something like that
20:33 wizzyrea ok, there's now a public project, can you see that?
20:33 cait nope
20:33 rangi sweet
20:34 rangi do you have a link to it?
20:34 wizzyrea 1s
20:34 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.or[…]koha-release-324/
20:35 rangi yep that works
20:35 ibeardslee nice
20:35 wizzyrea PM me the emails you signed up with
20:35 wizzyrea please and thank you
20:36 wizzyrea that url tho.
20:36 wizzyrea sigh.
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20:37 rangi if i was you
20:37 rangi id sign up as a user koha-project
20:37 rangi and make the projects under that
20:37 rangi then the url would look nicer hehe
20:37 wizzyrea hehe yeah
20:37 rangi or just as koha
20:37 rangi then call the project release-3.24
20:37 rangi something like that
20:38 wizzyrea today is the day, we all learn taiga!
20:38 wizzyrea ^.^
20:38 wizzyrea wheeeee!
20:39 wizzyrea un mo, I'm rearranging things
20:40 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.or[…]koha-release-324/
20:40 wizzyrea now, mind you the roles are the default roles
20:40 wizzyrea so they are meaningless at the moment
20:40 rangi nice
20:40 rangi yeah
20:40 rangi but its a good start
20:41 wizzyrea thoughts on the roles?
20:42 wizzyrea i guess mirror the roles we've got in the release team
20:43 rangi makes sense to me
20:43 wizzyrea andreashm: if you pm me the email address you signed up with I can add you to the project
20:43 wizzyrea gr, it doesn't seem you can allow people to self add
20:44 rangi thats kinda good in a way
20:44 rangi one less spam angle to worry about
20:44 rangi but also annoying too
20:46 cait can we adapt the kanban board? to match bug status or soß
20:46 cait ?
20:46 andreashm there's still nothing if I look at
20:46 wizzyrea right you have to go to the project
20:46 andreashm but there's stuff at the 3.24 project
20:47 wizzyrea that's about right
20:47 andreashm ah, alright.
20:47 wizzyrea sure we can I think change it however
20:47 andreashm I would have expected a link to that project from the startpage
20:47 wizzyrea It's expecting that you'll be logged in because you want to do work :)
20:47 wizzyrea and manipulate things
20:48 andreashm * looking around the taiga project *
20:49 wizzyrea there isn't much in it atm
20:49 cait found it
20:49 cait i changed the kanban board a bit
20:50 andreashm I kind of like the look and feel of it
20:50 wizzyrea a+
20:50 wizzyrea cait++
20:50 andreashm but some parts, like "the team" seem built for other kinds of teams/projects. =)
20:51 andreashm I might see if it can be used for stuff here at work actually
20:51 andreashm noticed that UX is placed at the top of the team. =)
20:51 wizzyrea I don't think it would hurt us to think and act more like a team
20:51 wizzyrea :)
20:51 andreashm pretty sure you're right!
20:53 andreashm speaking of UX, do you know if anyone has actually done any UX/customizing work on the staff interface? I know there's lots for the OPAC, but for staff?
20:53 andreashm (you as in anyone here)
20:53 wizzyrea nope
20:54 pianohacker I like UI stuff and occasionally poke at things, but oleonard has done a lot more
20:56 andreashm one of our ux:ers had a look, but it seems it's more difficult to customize the staff interface with css, as opposed to the opac
20:56 wizzyrea nah
20:56 wizzyrea there's intranetusercss
20:57 wizzyrea there might be fewer id's and classes on things
20:57 wizzyrea most of the pages have a body ID though
20:57 andreashm yeah, but a lot of elements aren't tagged properly...
20:57 andreashm just that
20:57 wizzyrea that's probably the place to start
20:58 andreashm makes it more difficult
20:58 cait some pages are better than others
20:58 cait there is one in acq with lots of duplicated ids...
20:58 andreashm ouch
20:58 wizzyrea there have definitely been some "improvements" that have been UX nightmares.
20:58 cait i have a note somewhere about filing a bug for that
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21:01 pianohacker wizzyrea: like? :)
21:01 wizzyrea are you really going to make me?
21:01 wizzyrea speaking of, I like the way taiga does permissions
21:01 wizzyrea it shows green/grey boxes for active/inactive permissions
21:01 wizzyrea you expand them to add/remove
21:02 pianohacker that's what pm and off are for, wizzyrea, so yes ;)
21:02 wizzyrea and the boxes update. You can always tell at a glance what this role has
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21:02 wizzyrea is nice.
21:02 * andreashm_ was logged out for some reason
21:03 wizzyrea I ought to make a project "koha community taiga" so you can put bugs and stuff in it. :P
21:04 wizzyrea I'm not sure exactly how this is going to tie to bugzilla
21:04 wizzyrea how does it work with trello now?
21:04 cait we ar just putting the bug number / a link
21:04 cait no integration really
21:05 pianohacker oh, heh, wizzyrea, I can guess one of the things you were implyaing at above. Okay.
21:05 rangi wizzyrea: i figure we can work on integration with taiga, because we can at least touch the code for it and bugzilla
21:05 wizzyrea I whinge about it a lot :P
21:06 wizzyrea yeah, supposedly there's a tool for that coming?
21:06 wizzyrea bz/taiga integration
21:06 wizzyrea I feel like taiga is better for seeing things moving a long
21:06 wizzyrea along*
21:06 wizzyrea and we can possibly use sprints for things like plack integration
21:07 wizzyrea i.e. we are going to work on this
21:07 wizzyrea until it is done
21:07 wizzyrea and here are all of the things that need doing and they all need to be green
21:07 wizzyrea i mean, idk how you all want to use it
21:07 wizzyrea however we want, I guess :)
21:07 rangi yep
21:08 rangi for now, even if its just used the same way as trello is being used
21:08 cait wizzyrea: trying to set a custom field for the bugzilla bug number... bu tno idea where it's supposed to show up
21:08 rangi just a kanban for bugs
21:08 wizzyrea ya
21:08 wizzyrea k I'll have a nosey
21:08 rangi then at least we get rid of a piece of proprietary software out of the workflow
21:08 wizzyrea which is always a good thing :)
21:13 wizzyrea hrm
21:13 wizzyrea cait, it looks like it's turning up on the user story
21:14 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.or[…]-release-324/us/1 example
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21:14 Francesca good morning
21:14 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
21:14 wizzyrea oh that's annoying, to save anything you have to click the tiny invisible disk next to the field
21:15 wizzyrea well it's not invisible when you hover
21:15 wizzyrea but still.
21:16 cait ah
21:17 cait how do you get to the link you gave me?
21:17 cait when i click on the small edit from the kanban board, the field doesn't show
21:17 cait in the modal
21:17 wizzyrea yeah, I just noticed that
21:17 wizzyrea I was looking up how that works
21:18 wizzyrea Oh I see
21:18 wizzyrea so a story is a thing we want to do
21:18 wizzyrea and a task is more like an individual bug
21:19 wizzyrea so for example
21:19 wizzyrea a story is "improve searching by switching to elasticsearch"
21:20 wizzyrea and a task is "bug xxxxx - very discrete thing that needs to be done to accomplish the story"
21:20 wizzyrea so at the start of a release, a possible thing
21:20 wizzyrea would be to decide what major goals we have
21:20 wizzyrea and split out the discrete tasks we need to do to get there
21:20 cait ah
21:21 wizzyrea i mean, if we were using this in the way it's meant to be used
21:21 wizzyrea you can also just chuck bugs in there and move them along the pipe
21:21 wizzyrea like you do with trello
21:22 cait i still haven't found out how to get to the moredetailed view you showed me
21:22 cait h
21:22 cait m
21:22 wizzyrea you click the link
21:22 wizzyrea not the edit pencil
21:22 wizzyrea which is kind of silly.
21:22 cait ahh
21:23 cait lol ok
21:23 wizzyrea that's basically your detail view
21:23 wizzyrea and it's all editable from there if you have rights to do that
21:23 wizzyrea you click on things to edit them
21:23 wizzyrea basically, assume there's an input box.
21:24 wizzyrea then click the disk at the end of the line to save it
21:27 cait hm time runs
21:27 cait have to start packing
21:28 wizzyrea does anybody know anything about webhooks?
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21:31 andreashm_ not really I'm afraid.
21:32 andreashm_ oh, Ruby is waking up. got to go.
21:32 andreashm_ bye all
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21:41 tcohen1 hi
21:41 wahanui kia ora, tcohen1
21:42 wizzyrea hi tcohen1
21:43 rangi hi tcohen1
21:43 tcohen1 hm
21:48 cait hi tcohen
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21:48 tcohen1 so lots of things pushed already
21:49 tcohen1 now it is time to fix the remaining issues
21:55 tcohen gotcha
21:57 mveron Hi again everybody...
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22:01 wizzyrea hello!
22:02 tcohen hi rangi wizzyrea cait
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22:04 tcohen jenkins_koha: status?
22:04 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'status?'
22:04 wahanui status is not set, I tried receive and an additional check in
22:04 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
22:05 tcohen jenkins_koha: health
22:05 jenkins_koha health of all projects:
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22:05 rangi yeah maybe we dont use that command
22:05 rangi hehe
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22:07 wizzyrea lol!
22:11 tcohen heh
22:11 tcohen never more
22:12 tcohen jenkins_koha: health Koha_Master_D7
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22:12 tcohen better?
22:12 wahanui better is "take cover." :)
22:13 eythian hi
22:15 tcohen hi eythian
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22:15 tcohen so should I push the paypal patches or just delay them until URL::Encode is available or they find another way?
22:16 tcohen @later tell fridolin ping me tomorrow, about bug 15142
22:16 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
22:17 cait tcohen++
22:18 eythian tcohen: I think that they need to check if URI::Escape will do the job.
22:18 eythian Adding a useless dependency is worse than adding a complicated one.
22:18 tcohen thanks eythian
22:19 eythian Also, they had fair warning that it'd be delayed if they didn't work that out early.
22:20 tcohen eythian: true, don't worry about it anymore
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23:28 * mveron fixed date input validation in Bug 14969
23:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
23:29 mveron 4 C4::Dates sign-offs left, 3 to QA
23:34 mveron @later tell nengard Can you please comment and/or so Bug 15091 (Batch Checkout)?
23:34 huginn mveron: The operation succeeded.
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